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What role does a legalistic or extrabiblical culture have in creating "shame"?
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There are a lot of shaming techniques used in legalistic cultures. Some would say that Jesus used shaming techniques as well, when he called the Pharisees "vipers" for instance. But these weren't Jesus' common techniques for dealing with average people, and the things he said about the Pharisees don't seem to have induced any shame.
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Originally Posted by DAII
Is there any thing about shame that is healthy ... beneficial ... advantageous?
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There is healthy shame--embarrassment for wrongdoing, for instance. But that shame comes from a sincere heart. Outwardly induced shame--from being labeled, mocked, called out, shunned, stood up or sat down, or having private discussions preached publicly, for instance--aren't healthy shame, and don't often lead to inward positive changes. Those things more often make hypocrites and backsliders than healthy saints, IMO.
What did anyone think of what he believes Joel meant by "afterward" according to the video?