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09-19-2017, 04:37 PM
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Re: Help please on a research topic
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Originally Posted by Originalist
Good post.
One of the things I plan to do is to demonstrate that the Oneness doctrine fits, howbeit narrowly, under the umbrella of Trinitarianism, and is thus "orthodox". Of course, you must understand who my readers will be, mainly AG scholars.
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Of course it fits.
Oneness' core doctrine(hypostatic union of God) was inherited from it's former group, the trins.
It was reused in a different method called modification.
They are cousins, connected at the hip by the "Mother Superior"(RCC).
All oneness/trin godhead debates are about this modification of hypostatic union, nothing else.
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09-19-2017, 10:25 PM
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Re: Help please on a research topic
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Originally Posted by Originalist
Good post.
One of the things I plan to do is to demonstrate that the Oneness doctrine fits, howbeit narrowly, under the umbrella of Trinitarianism, and is thus "orthodox". Of course, you must understand who my readers will be, mainly AG scholars.
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Most studied Oneness believers as well as a lot of rank and file would reject your premise. Just as most studied trinitarians and a lot of their rank and file.
The Jehovah's Witnesses will, however, probably be quoting you in their Watchtower mags. They'll definitely agree with your basic premise.
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09-19-2017, 11:38 PM
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Re: Help please on a research topic
That is a baseless comparison. Jehovah Witnesses teach that Jesus was Michael the Archangel. Originalist does not teach that. Nor does Oneness or Trinity teach that.
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09-20-2017, 01:36 AM
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Re: Help please on a research topic
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That is a baseless comparison. Jehovah Witnesses teach that Jesus was Michael the Archangel. Originalist does not teach that. Nor does Oneness or Trinity teach that.
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You're funny, you know that?
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09-20-2017, 06:58 AM
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Re: Help please on a research topic
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That is a baseless comparison. Jehovah Witnesses teach that Jesus was Michael the Archangel. Originalist does not teach that. Nor does Oneness or Trinity teach that.
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I think what he is saying is that JW's might use such a paper to justify claiming what you do, that Oneness is just a modified form of Trinitarianism. However, the approach I'm taking in this paper may eliminate them being able to do so.
My goal is to use this essay as an opportunity to show the vast divisions within Trinitarianism and that the views on the godhead of a sizable number of Trinitarians are actually more akin to the Oneness view. This will hopefully alienate and isolate the tritheist wing of Trinitarians, forcing them to denounce the "Oneness Trinitarians" as heretics, thus driving them into our camp.
Long shot, I know. But why can't a guy have a little fun while earning his degree?
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09-20-2017, 07:27 AM
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Re: Help please on a research topic
LOL.
Trins are generally not as well versed in their doctrine as one may think, just like oneness believers.
Very few rise up among them with their commentaries.
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09-20-2017, 08:48 AM
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Re: Help please on a research topic
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LOL.
Trins are generally not as well versed in their doctrine as one may think, just like oneness believers.
Very few rise up among them with their commentaries.
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Biblical and doctrinal illiteracy are rampant in both camps. Our camp is too busy "shouting" while their camp is focused on "your best life now" and "happiness".
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09-20-2017, 09:15 AM
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Re: Help please on a research topic
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Biblical and doctrinal illiteracy are rampant in both camps. Our camp is too busy "shouting" while their camp is focused on "your best life now" and "happiness".
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Have you met a New Calvinist?
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09-20-2017, 09:24 AM
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Re: Help please on a research topic
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Good post.
One of the things I plan to do is to demonstrate that the Oneness doctrine fits, howbeit narrowly, under the umbrella of Trinitarianism, and is thus "orthodox". Of course, you must understand who my readers will be, mainly AG scholars.
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You have set out to demonstrate something that is not true?
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09-21-2017, 08:25 AM
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Re: Help please on a research topic
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You have set out to demonstrate something that is not true?
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I guess it can only be judged "true" or "untrue" (as to the question of orthodoxy) depending on the beliefs of individual Trinitarians.
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