False Prophecies Everywhere, not just Charismatics

[mont.preterist]

Oh they are at it again.

In a major Texas area, where a certain general superintendent used to pastor, they are making very specific proclamations and prophecies that Jesus is getting ready to come back any day now.

The pastors of churches in that area have banded together and in that area there are THOUSANDS of supposedly oneness pentecostals involved total.

Almost every service there are tongues and interpretations and words of prophecy going out that go similar to this.

"Yeah, get ready, I am coming sooooooon!", or "The end is here, I am getting ready to come in the clouds!"

Now, I do have a problem with this as it feels like 1988. Some of you youngsters weren't around then but let me tell you, false prophecies were running rampant. Large churches of the underprivileged children were being deceived and were prophesying that it was the end, T and I were going out in every service, people were running out and getting in debt because Jesus was coming in September and they weren't going to have to pay back what they were borrowing... feels like it again!

The problem with believing in a pretrib rapture is what we are seeing! The error of this breeds false prophecies and false T and I!!!

What are they going to do when NOTHING happens? When there is not rapture and when their false prophecies go belly up?

This happened in 88 and 89! There were many people then that made bad decisions based upon bad estachology and bad teachings on prophecy and quit church!

We want to hold the false prophets accountable in the charismatic world but what about the false prophets in the oneness pentecostal world? Who is holding them accountable?

Is there going to be a mass exodus out of those churches? We saw people lose out in 88 and 89, y2k, 2001, and etc and etc! Where is the outcry over the false prophets now?

[Originalist]

While I was wrong on Trump losing Ohio, and voter turnout for Trump, I was clearly right about election fraud being the deciding factor in this election. But I never claimed to be prophesying. I just know the Democrats, that's all.


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[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mont.preterist

Oh they are at it again.

In a major Texas area, where a certain general superintendent used to pastor, they are making very specific proclamations and prophecies that Jesus is getting ready to come back any day now.

The pastors of churches in that area have banded together and in that area there are THOUSANDS of supposedly oneness pentecostals involved total.

Almost every service there are tongues and interpretations and words of prophecy going out that go similar to this.

"Yeah, get ready, I am coming sooooooon!", or "The end is here, I am getting ready to come in the clouds!"

Now, I do have a problem with this as it feels like 1988. Some of you youngsters weren't around then but let me tell you, false prophecies were running rampant. Large churches of the underprivileged children were being deceived and were prophesying that it was the end, T and I were going out in every service, people were running out and getting in debt because Jesus was coming in September and they weren't going to have to pay back what they were borrowing... feels like it again!

The problem with believing in a pretrib rapture is what we are seeing! The error of this breeds false prophecies and false T and I!!!

What are they going to do when NOTHING happens? When there is not rapture and when their false prophecies go belly up?

This happened in 88 and 89! There were many people then that made bad decisions based upon bad estachology and bad teachings on prophecy and quit church!

We want to hold the false prophets accountable in the charismatic world but what about the false prophets in the oneness pentecostal world? Who is holding them accountable?

Is there going to be a mass exodus out of those churches? We saw people lose out in 88 and 89, y2k, 2001, and etc and etc! Where is the outcry over the false prophets now?

Can you verify about the Oneness people making these prophecies? Or are we talking from hearsay? Any particular leader among Oneness leading the charge?

[mont.preterist]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Can you verify about the Oneness people making these prophecies? Or are we talking from hearsay? Any particular leader among Oneness leading the charge?

Got family among them, getting calls from people in the churches.

Waiting on recordings....

No names, don't want to get banned.

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by mont.preterist

Oh they are at it again.

In a major Texas area, where a certain general superintendent used to pastor, they are making very specific proclamations and prophecies that Jesus is getting ready to come back any day now.

The pastors of churches in that area have banded together and in that area there are THOUSANDS of supposedly oneness pentecostals involved total.

Almost every service there are tongues and interpretations and words of prophecy going out that go similar to this.

"Yeah, get ready, I am coming sooooooon!", or "The end is here, I am getting ready to come in the clouds!"

Now, I do have a problem with this as it feels like 1988. Some of you youngsters weren't around then but let me tell you, false prophecies were running rampant. Large churches of the underprivileged children were being deceived and were prophesying that it was the end, T and I were going out in every service, people were running out and getting in debt because Jesus was coming in September and they weren't going to have to pay back what they were borrowing... feels like it again!

The problem with believing in a pretrib rapture is what we are seeing! The error of this breeds false prophecies and false T and I!!!

What are they going to do when NOTHING happens? When there is not rapture and when their false prophecies go belly up?

This happened in 88 and 89! There were many people then that made bad decisions based upon bad estachology and bad teachings on prophecy and quit church!

We want to hold the false prophets accountable in the charismatic world but what about the false prophets in the oneness pentecostal world? Who is holding them accountable?

Is there going to be a mass exodus out of those churches? We saw people lose out in 88 and 89, y2k, 2001, and etc and etc! Where is the outcry over the false prophets now?

Did they say a specific date? If not then you are falsely accusing them.
The expectation of the coming of the Lord, and getting even more excited about it when days turn black is normal, and it is biblical.

1 Peter 1:3-7

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ,

You are the one in error. You are the false prophet.

[mont.preterist]

Originally Posted by coksiw

Did they say a specific date? If not then you are falsely accusing them.
The expectation of the coming of the Lord, and getting even more excited about it when days turn black is normal, and it is biblical.

1 Peter 1:3-7

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ,

You are the one in error. You are the false prophet.

No, you are the one wrong. You are the false prophet.

The first century church looked for it soon because it was getting ready to happen soon. Like in 70 AD soon. Not 2000 years and counting.

But one good thing about that false doctrine, I don't have to listen to it because it is going to be another 2000 years on their reckoning.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mont.preterist

No, you are the one wrong. You are the false prophet.

The first century church looked for it soon because it was getting ready to happen soon. Like in 70 AD soon. Not 2000 years and counting.

But one good thing about that false doctrine, I don't have to listen to it because it is going to be another 2000 years on their reckoning.

So yes crystal clear. Jesus came and raised the dead and took the saints to Heaven in the 1st century! Sometime before 70ad.

So then who are WE? What relevance does the Bible have for us? If it were written only to the 1st century saints looks like nothing relates to us.

We cant be in the 1000 year reign. That would be over by 1100 ad. So since then came the New Heavens and the New Earth!

Were in the good times!

[1 God]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So yes crystal clear. Jesus came and raised the dead and took the saints to Heaven in the 1st century! Sometime before 70ad.

So then who are WE? What relevance does the Bible have for us? If it were written only to the 1st century saints looks like nothing relates to us.

We cant be in the 1000 year reign. That would be over by 1100 ad. So since then came the New Heavens and the New Earth!

Were in the good times!

Good times? I could only wish the Millennial reign was happening now.
Politics would be done away and Christ would reign with us as His statute enforcers.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

[n david]

Originally Posted by mont.preterist

No, you are the one wrong. You are the false prophet.

The first century church looked for it soon because it was getting ready to happen soon. Like in 70 AD soon. Not 2000 years and counting.

But one good thing about that false doctrine, I don't have to listen to it because it is going to be another 2000 years on their reckoning.

It's okay. You do you. Live however you want to live because you don't believe God is coming again. Whether God comes this year or a thousand years, we should be ready.

And it's not false prophecy to state scripture and say He's coming soon.

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by mont.preterist

No, you are the one wrong. You are the false prophet.

The first century church looked for it soon because it was getting ready to happen soon. Like in 70 AD soon. Not 2000 years and counting.

But one good thing about that false doctrine, I don't have to listen to it because it is going to be another 2000 years on their reckoning.

I get to preach the same message the Apostles preached: My Lord is coming again and will raise his saints the same way he raised from the dead: a bodily resurrection, into eternal life.

Do you realize you can't preach the same?