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Old 04-19-2018, 09:29 AM
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PO, you are right that their perception is false.

But I can't fault them for wanted to identify with the US and with the tenants of their faith rather then with a secular state that defines being Jewish as cultural and not a religion.
I agree. I don't believe that Israel does define Jewish as cultural and not a religion. There may be some who are secular, like secular Christianity, but Israel is very much a religious country.
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I agree. I don't believe that Israel does define Jewish as cultural and not a religion. There may be some who are secular, like secular Christianity, but Israel is very much a religious country.
Secular Christianity?

Please give an example?
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Re: Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro's view on Zionism

Israel is a religious country? Don’t they have the biggest pay pride event in Tel Aviv?
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They stated that "we have absolutely no connection to the State of Israel." That is not true.
I allow Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro to answer.

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Israel is a religious country? Don’t they have the biggest pay pride event in Tel Aviv?
Yes, because Zionism has zero to do with religion. Same as being a Republican or Democrat has zero to do with being a religion. It is a secular country. The only time a Zionist like Netanyahu gets real preachy is when they are talking to Americans.
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Side note we must keep everything in context, when Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro says he and his family have noting to do with Israel. What he is meaning is politically. Religiously it is a Holy Land and Jerusalem a Holy City.
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Israel is a religious country? Don’t they have the biggest pay pride event in Tel Aviv?
And the United States is a Christian country with gay pride events.
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Secular Christianity?

Please give an example?
A Presbyterian church with a Lesbian pastor.
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I allow Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro to answer.

"We pray toward Jerusalem" other than that, we have no connection.

What is so important to them about Jerusalem?
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