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View Poll Results: Is the serpent seed doctrine a "damnable heresy"?
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Yes. It's a perverse false doctrine that should be strongly rejected.
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No. Its an doctrinal error, but it's pretty harmless.
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No. I believe the serpent seed doctrine is biblical truth.
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I'm not sure.
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05-28-2008, 04:32 PM
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
That's not what is says. I thought there was one for Mary but am unable to find it now. As you can read, both trace from Joseph, not Mary.
Matthew 1:14
And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;
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And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;
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And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
Luke 3:23
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed ) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
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Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,
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That is why the wording is there BOTH are Mary.
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05-28-2008, 04:35 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
That is why the wording is there BOTH are Mary.
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How do you explain the different father for Mary in the accounts?
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05-28-2008, 04:38 PM
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Bro. Vayle is not Bro. Branham... I have countless quotes where Bro. Branham explained it WAS BY FOREKNOWLEDGE... you know we could fill this little box up with those quotes
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I know you could it was quite confusing however the CAB clearly states the opposite and also the Isreal series. Branham endorsed and sent out hte book as somewhat a statement of doctrine to what he believed that was the reason for the book. EVERY page and paragraph had his initials on them. Again this came directly from Vayle who wrote it and Green who published it.
I think Branham was confused myself. Dale later printed a paper that had multitude of quotes that taught foreknowledge and free will. It was quite war in the late 60's a war of quotes. However YOU even quoted from the CAB and said it changed your life so Vayle won!
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05-28-2008, 04:40 PM
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
How do you explain the different father for Mary in the accounts?
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I am sorry my mind is tired Luke is Mary- Matthew is Joseph it is the kingly line where Jesus inherits the throne as Joseph's son through Solomon but he also has oit through Nathan in Lukes linage.
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05-28-2008, 04:42 PM
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
I am sorry my mind is tired Luke is Mary- Matthew is Joseph it is the kingly line where Jesus inherits the throne as Joseph's son through Solomon but he also has oit through Nathan in Lukes linage.
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That's what I had posted but when you posted both lines were Mary's I thought I had missed something. Thanks.
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05-28-2008, 04:44 PM
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Jesus is the Christ
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
This issue of Jeus' humanity coming from Mary has been a big debate throughout history. This is one of the reasons why Mary was eventually venerated in the catholic church.
Sorry I have added this late, but I was not around to plug it in while others were talking about this point.
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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05-28-2008, 05:02 PM
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
I would also believe this if the Bible didn't trace the lineage of Joseph from David to Jesus.
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In the Jewsih society the legal rights of a family came from the father. Although Joseph was his legal father, he was not His biological father. The reason why the lineage of Joseph is cited in the gospel of Matthew because the book of Matthew is written to the Jews. Thus, it had to be proven according to Jewish tradition that Jesus was of descent legally of David.
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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05-28-2008, 05:07 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by bkstokes
In the Jewsih society the legal rights of a family came from the father. Although Joseph was his legal father, he was not His biological father. The reason why the lineage of Joseph is cited in the gospel of Matthew because the book of Matthew is written to the Jews. Thus, it had to be proven according to Jewish tradition that Jesus was of descent legally of David.
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Hmmmm. So it was more of a legal lineage than a biological one. Never thought of it that way, and never heard it preached that way, but it sounds reasonable. I wonder if Joseph had to adopt Jesus for this lineage to apply.
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05-28-2008, 05:13 PM
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
Bro. Stokes... you post was most informative.... thanks for bringing that to the table
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05-28-2008, 05:14 PM
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Rico
Hmmmm. So it was more of a legal lineage than a biological one. Never thought of it that way, and never heard it preached that way, but it sounds reasonable. I wonder if Joseph had to adopt Jesus for this lineage to apply.
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This is not from me. I got it out Jamieson, Fausset and Brown commentary.
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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