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Old 04-21-2017, 11:21 AM
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Re: Christian Anarchism???

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So, who's gonna deliver the mail and build the roads? lol

If we were all regenerate... but not all humans are. Therefore, governments are ordained by God to restrain the wickedness of man via temporal punishments.

There will be human government. Until the wicked are no more. The question is, Who will inform the powers and principalities of their duties? The wicked? Or the saints?
They restrain nothing. They profit from man's wickedness and it's monetarily driven not rehabilitation driven.

Govenment enables the wickedness of man....Ours does especially.
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They restrain nothing. They profit from man's wickedness and it's monetarily driven not rehabilitation driven.

Govenment enables the wickedness of man....Ours does especially.
And why is that? Because "government"? No, because the church isn't doing its job that Christ told it to do. Either government is directed by sinners pushing a pro-sin agenda, or it is directed by Christians who push the agenda of the Word. The Bible says the mission of the church is to disciple all nations, teaching them to obey Christ. But when Christians surrender the field, and willfully turn government over to the devil, no wonder we get wicked government!

Romans 13 declares the civil authority's job is to punish evil. And the church's job is to inform the whole world the whole counsel of God.

But we've been too busy with the building fund and raising money for the usurers.
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So, who's gonna deliver the mail and build the roads? lol

If we were all regenerate... but not all humans are. Therefore, governments are ordained by God to restrain the wickedness of man via temporal punishments.

There will be human government. Until the wicked are no more. The question is, Who will inform the powers and principalities of their duties? The wicked? Or the saints?
The way it was explained to me is that Christian Anarchism is more of a personal philosophy. It would be against Anarchist principles to FORCE anarchy on anyone. And total anarchism could only work if everyone were Christian. Therefore, Christian Anarchism is a "one man revolution". It is each of us as individuals, choosing not to be under the authority of any governing authority but God's. No King but Christ. This anarchism flows well with brethren who are also submitted to Christ alone. However, due to the fallen nature of our world, governments are necessary because of the wicked and unbelieving. And so, the Christian Anarchist tolerates government, seeking to bring it into a place wherein it is most responsive to the people and serving the greater good of society. However, the Christian Anarchist is only "tolerating" government, seeing it as a necessary evil. The Christian Anarchist personally refuses to submit to government by refusing to submit to any law, ordinance, or regulation that would challenge one's personal obedience to God.

So the Christian Anarchist will not refuse to submit to traffic laws. However, if ordered not to preach the Gospel, the anarchist will gladly and peacefully refuse to submit.

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The way it was explained to me is that Christian Anarchism is more of a personal philosophy. It would be against Anarchist principles to FORCE anarchy on anyone. And total anarchism could only work if everyone were Christian. Therefore, Christian Anarchism is a "one man revolution". It is each of us as individuals, choosing not to be under the authority of any governing authority but God's. No King but Christ. This anarchism flows well with brethren who are also submitted to Christ alone. However, due to the fallen nature of our world, governments are necessary because of the wicked and unbelieving. And so, the Christian Anarchist tolerates government, seeking to bring it into a place wherein it is most responsive to the people and serving the greater good of the individual. However, the Christian Anarchist is only "tolerating" government. The Christian Anarchist refuses to submit to government by refusing to submit to any law, ordinance, or regulation that would challenge one's personal obedience to God.
From this definition, it sounds like the Revival stage of theonomic reconstruction.

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Here, read this:

http://anarcho-theonomy.com
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From this definition, it sounds like the Revival stage of theonomic reconstruction.

LOL!

I know, it does. However, a Christian Anarchist wouldn't impose a theonomic system of government over others. However, they might live theonomically as an individual (or in voluntary community) and refuse to submit to all earthly authority.

Christian Anarchy is a rejection of all earthly authority... and a self-imposed submission to the rulership of God.

The Christian Anarchist would say, "I have no King but Jesus."

The Theonomic Reconstructionist would say, "The nation has no King but Jesus, so everyone will now obey the Law of God!"

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Sounds like a bunch of malarkey. Some people have too much idle time.
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From this definition, it sounds like the Revival stage of theonomic reconstruction.

Consider this...

Theonomy imposed by the state is still... statism.
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Consider this...

Theonomy imposed by the state is still... statism.
Nope. Statism is a philosophy or way of thinking that puts the state in the place of God.

Was the Davidic monarchy "statism"?

Is Heaven a "statist" system?

No, on both accounts.

As Christians we serve a Monarch, and are citizens of a Divine Monarchy, with Christ forever enthroned as King.
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Nope. Statism is a philosophy or way of thinking that puts the state in the place of God.

Was the Davidic monarchy "statism"?

Is Heaven a "statist" system?

No, on both accounts.

As Christians we serve a Monarch, and are citizens of a Divine Monarchy, with Christ forever enthroned as King.
If theonomy needs to form a "religious state" to establish or impose the rule of God among men, it can be argued that it is still a form of statism.

Christian Anarchy doesn't believe in the necessity of forming any kind of "state" to establish the rule of God among men. Instead, individuals declare their sovereignty from all earthly government to voluntarily chose to have only God rule over them, that they might serve as an example of such rule, and encourage others to voluntarily choose the same. In the end, all that remains is a voluntary community of individuals voluntarily submitted to the direct rule of God over their individual lives. A community of equals, governed simply by the Bibles they're holding.
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