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Old 12-19-2012, 12:09 PM
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Interesting Logic Question:
Liberals think that gun bans will reduce the rate of violent crime.
Conservatives think that abortion bans will reduce the rate of abortion.

Liberals think that the freedom of choice is best and efforts to reduce the abortion rate should be chaging minds and behaviors.

Conservatives think that freedom of choice is best with regards to gun ownership and efforts to reduce gun violence should be changing minds and behaviors.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:14 PM
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what was the question?
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:23 PM
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Liberals think that gun bans will reduce the rate of violent crime.

And statistics prove them wrong.

Conservatives think that abortion bans will reduce the rate of abortion.

[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]And they do. What was teh abortion rate prior to Roe V Wade? What is the abortion rate today?
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Liberals think that the freedom of choice is best and efforts to reduce the abortion rate should be chaging minds and behaviors.

[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]But they don't. They use it as a foundation for immorality.
"Freedom of choice" means murdering a child.[/COLOR]

Conservatives think that freedom of choice is best with regards to gun ownership and efforts to reduce gun violence should be changing minds and behaviors.
And the conservatives are right again...
The cities with the strictest gun control laws have the highest violent crime rates.

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what was the question?
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Looks like the conservative view on both counts saves lives.

"And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives."
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Why do both sides think that prohibition ends a human condition?
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Why do both sides think that prohibition ends a human condition?
If the condition is conception, then how does a prohibition on abortions end it?
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Liberals think that gun bans will reduce the rate of violent crime.
Conservatives think that abortion bans will reduce the rate of abortion.

Liberals think that the freedom of choice is best and efforts to reduce the abortion rate should be chaging minds and behaviors.

Conservatives think that freedom of choice is best with regards to gun ownership and efforts to reduce gun violence should be changing minds and behaviors.
The difference: abortion is killing. Guns are an object.
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'Why prohibit murder then?
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Liberals think that gun bans will reduce the rate of violent crime.
Conservatives think that abortion bans will reduce the rate of abortion.

Liberals think that the freedom of choice is best and efforts to reduce the abortion rate should be chaging minds and behaviors.

Conservatives think that freedom of choice is best with regards to gun ownership and efforts to reduce gun violence should be changing minds and behaviors.
Guns are inanimate objects.
Abortion is an action.

There is no "right" to abort a baby in the constitution.
There is a right to bear arms in the constitution.

Guns can kill people but also save lives.
Abortion kills human life, unless the mother is in danger.


The counter to that is they are complete apples and oranges issues. Abortion is murder. If we use that line of thinking we should let people have "freedom of choice" to murder and rape people.

Guns are not a "freedom of choice" issue, guns are a right to protect oneself.


The argument that "abortions will happen anyway" is an insane argument because laws ARE broken all the time, but that's why we have prisons... and courts... and judges... and juries.

You can't say let's not pass laws on rape, child molestation, and murder because people will break them, that's insane.

Now here's where gun control is different, when people break gun control laws, there are criminals WITH dangerous weapons, and a law-abiding population WITHOUT dangerous weapons. There in lies the problem.
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Why do both sides think that prohibition ends a human condition?
Laws against abortion are not comparable to prohibition. You know that's as dishonest an argument as any. Prohibition is of objects like drugs, guns, etc...

...abortion is an act like murder, rape, child molestation. etc
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