Pentecostal - Stand Against Hollywood?

[nnorth]

I found this posting on a blog, while I was surfing today. What are your thoughts?
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Stand Against Hollywood - Questions to Ponder

The practice of refraining from watching TV or products of Hollywood is a standard practice of a majority of Pentecostal Churches (UPCI). There has been a longstanding "holiness standard" that is shouted from the pulpits from coast to coast against Hollywood and everything that Hollywood stands for.

If Pentecostal church members are found not to uphold this "standard", they are quickly spoken to and released from any leadership or platform ministry position. This includes singers, musicians, care pastors, teachers, and other church leadership positions. If one is willing to destroy or give away their TV then they maybe restored to the position they once held.

But one must question the genuineness of this "stand" against Hollywood. When Pastors wives prance into church wearing the clothes of Hollywood. Pastors children are dressed in the trends and styles of Hollywood. In some extreme situations the Pastor looks like a model right out of the latest copy of GQ. If the Pentecostal (UPCI) and Apostolic Church is going to take a stand against Hollywood they must consider the following.

Hollywood is more than just TV, movies and music. Here is a partial list they should consider not participating in, if they are really going to take a stand:

No Designer Clothes
No Hollywood Styled Clothes
No Disney - This includes products and theme parks
No VeggieTales - (Owned by Hollywood now)
No purchasing books from any of the major publishers - (Owned by Hollywood)
No DVD's or BlueRay's - Standards of Hollywood
No purchasing of products by GE (GE owns a lot of Hollywood)
No Theme parks - 99% owned by Hollywood companies or have characters from Hollywood
No purchasing of magazines - (most have advertisers from Hollywood)
No shopping at the mall - (Style of clothes modeled after Hollywood - not to mention the advertisers from Hollywood who advertise in the mall)
No computers with Microsoft or Apple operating systems - (They are major supporters of Hollywood)
No use of internet, unless it is church related.
No drinking soda - (Coke and Pepsi are major supporters of Hollywood)
No Starbucks - (Supporters of Hollywood)
No going to the "live" theater. - (It's all Hollywood)
No going to a "show" in Las Vegas.

I'm sure by the list above, the message that I'm trying to get across to the Pentecostal (UPCI) movement is obvious. I feel that if you take a stand you should take a complete stand. If you are not, then why take a stand on a just one aspect of an entity like Hollywood? What is the true reason of the Pentecostal (UPCI) stand against "TV"?

Pray, ponder, pray, listen and take action.

[OnTheFritz]

I personally don't subscribe to the whole evil Hollywood Machine nonsense. As with anything else in the world, people are out to make money - so they cater to what people want. Some of what comes out of Hollywood is fine - occasionally great. And I will continue to judge things like movies on their merit and avoid blanket generalizations.

[OnTheFritz]

Originally Posted by OnTheFritz

I personally don't subscribe to the whole evil Hollywood Machine nonsense. As with anything else in the world, people are out to make money - so they cater to what people want. Some of what comes out of Hollywood is fine - occasionally great. And I will continue to judge things like movies on their merit and avoid blanket generalizations.

Let me also say this. I agree that a lot of junk comes out of Hollywood. I just hate these kind of large-scale boycotts, because the people it hurts the most are the low-paid workers at Disney World and other "related" companies who are supporting their families and aren't part of the "conspiracy".


...And boycott Starbucks? What's this guy smokin'?

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by nnorth

I found this posting on a blog, while I was surfing today. What are your thoughts?
__________________________________________________ ____________
Stand Against Hollywood - Questions to Ponder

The practice of refraining from watching TV or products of Hollywood is a standard practice of a majority of Pentecostal Churches (UPCI). There has been a longstanding "holiness standard" that is shouted from the pulpits from coast to coast against Hollywood and everything that Hollywood stands for.

If Pentecostal church members are found not to uphold this "standard", they are quickly spoken to and released from any leadership or platform ministry position. This includes singers, musicians, care pastors, teachers, and other church leadership positions. If one is willing to destroy or give away their TV then they maybe restored to the position they once held.

But one must question the genuineness of this "stand" against Hollywood. When Pastors wives prance into church wearing the clothes of Hollywood. Pastors children are dressed in the trends and styles of Hollywood. In some extreme situations the Pastor looks like a model right out of the latest copy of GQ. If the Pentecostal (UPCI) and Apostolic Church is going to take a stand against Hollywood they must consider the following.

Hollywood is more than just TV, movies and music. Here is a partial list they should consider not participating in, if they are really going to take a stand:

No Designer Clothes
No Hollywood Styled Clothes
No Disney - This includes products and theme parks
No VeggieTales - (Owned by Hollywood now)
No purchasing books from any of the major publishers - (Owned by Hollywood)
No DVD's or BlueRay's - Standards of Hollywood
No purchasing of products by GE (GE owns a lot of Hollywood)
No Theme parks - 99% owned by Hollywood companies or have characters from Hollywood
No purchasing of magazines - (most have advertisers from Hollywood)
No shopping at the mall - (Style of clothes modeled after Hollywood - not to mention the advertisers from Hollywood who advertise in the mall)
No computers with Microsoft or Apple operating systems - (They are major supporters of Hollywood)
No use of internet, unless it is church related.
No drinking soda - (Coke and Pepsi are major supporters of Hollywood)
No Starbucks - (Supporters of Hollywood)
No going to the "live" theater. - (It's all Hollywood)
No going to a "show" in Las Vegas.

I'm sure by the list above, the message that I'm trying to get across to the Pentecostal (UPCI) movement is obvious. I feel that if you take a stand you should take a complete stand. If you are not, then why take a stand on a just one aspect of an entity like Hollywood? What is the true reason of the Pentecostal (UPCI) stand against "TV"?

Pray, ponder, pray, listen and take action.

[hadassah]

Thank you for that letter. The bible says do all things in moderation.

[timlan2057]

Looks like there is a whole lot of missing the point a country mile on this thread.

The guy is speaking tongue-in-cheek and very appropriately calling for consistency: that if you're going to preach against SOME of "Hollywood", you may as well preach against ALL of it.

Some of these conservative "ole time pentecostal" pastors with a little money - and nothing wrong with that - indulge themselves in Harley Davidsons, dressing up in the leathers and chaps; spending hundreds and thousands of dollars on that stuff when that has as much of a "worldly association" (one of their favorite phrases) as stuff they rant and rail about to their congregations. "MY saints" - as they use the term.

"Ole time pentecost" is under mass delusion - thinking that they are some kind of a disciplined army.

Heck, these conservative preachers and their families who have a little money to spend on extravagances are some of the most self-indulgent people I've ever seen.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

Looks like there is a whole lot of missing the point a country mile on this thread.

The guy is speaking tongue-in-cheek and very appropriately calling for consistency: that if you're going to preach against SOME of "Hollywood", you may as well preach against ALL of it.

Some of these conservative "ole time pentecostal" pastors with a little money - and nothing wrong with that - indulge themselves in Harley Davidsons, dressing up in the leathers and chaps; spending hundreds and thousands of dollars on that stuff when that has as much of a "worldly association" (one of their favorite phrases) as stuff they rant and rail about to their congregations. "MY saints" - as they use the term.

"Ole time pentecost" is under mass delusion - thinking that they are some kind of a disciplined army.

Heck, these conservative preachers and their families who have a little money to spend on extravagances are some of the most self-indulgent people I've ever seen.

Totally correct Tim.

[OnTheFritz]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

Looks like there is a whole lot of missing the point a country mile on this thread.

The guy is speaking tongue-in-cheek and very appropriately calling for consistency: that if you're going to preach against SOME of "Hollywood", you may as well preach against ALL of it.

Some of these conservative "ole time pentecostal" pastors with a little money - and nothing wrong with that - indulge themselves in Harley Davidsons, dressing up in the leathers and chaps; spending hundreds and thousands of dollars on that stuff when that has as much of a "worldly association" (one of their favorite phrases) as stuff they rant and rail about to their congregations. "MY saints" - as they use the term.

"Ole time pentecost" is under mass delusion - thinking that they are some kind of a disciplined army.

Heck, these conservative preachers and their families who have a little money to spend on extravagances are some of the most self-indulgent people I've ever seen.

You're right. And I understood that. I just thought it would be a good time to get on my soapbox

[Raven]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

Looks like there is a whole lot of missing the point a country mile on this thread.

The guy is speaking tongue-in-cheek and very appropriately calling for consistency: that if you're going to preach against SOME of "Hollywood", you may as well preach against ALL of it.

Some of these conservative "ole time pentecostal" pastors with a little money - and nothing wrong with that - indulge themselves in Harley Davidsons, dressing up in the leathers and chaps; spending hundreds and thousands of dollars on that stuff when that has as much of a "worldly association" (one of their favorite phrases) as stuff they rant and rail about to their congregations. "MY saints" - as they use the term.

"Ole time pentecost" is under mass delusion - thinking that they are some kind of a disciplined army.

Heck, these conservative preachers and their families who have a little money to spend on extravagances are some of the most self-indulgent people I've ever seen.

Exactly!

[coadie]

No Designer ClothesTry to be a litle more accurate, clothing comes from 5th avenue which is NY and the other coast
No Hollywood Styled Clothes Again Hollywood is the no clothing look. can't name stuff we wear from there except t-shirts
No Disney - This includes products and theme parks Disney is only 2 US locations
No VeggieTales - (Owned by Hollywood now)Wha t is veggie tales?
No purchasing books from any of the major publishers - (Owned by Hollywood)Think you are wrong on publishers. Books are not movies
No DVD's or BlueRay's - Standards of Hollywood Phillips is in europe and created a lot of media. Need to do some homework folks.
No purchasing of products by GE (GE owns a lot of Hollywood)GE owns NBC also a sep away from california and about as connecrted as your water supply.
No Theme parks - 99% owned by Hollywood companies or have characters from HollywoodSomeone needs to learn about park ownership Cedar point is a big owner out of Ohio. Geogrraphy lesson time
No purchasing of magazines - (most have advertisers from Hollywood)Magazines are paper and from threes Paper is great for TP. no probklem there
No shopping at the mall - (Style of clothes modeled after Hollywood - not to mention the advertisers from Hollywood who advertise in the mall)The mall is a special women's ministry. Leave them alone
No computers with Microsoft or Apple operating systems - (They are major supporters of Hollywood)Bill gates from seattle. Seems the original claimant is geography impared
No use of internet, unless it is church related.Internet was from algore. He is a green bible evangelist
No drinking soda - (Coke and Pepsi are major supporters of Hollywood)Again, we baptize in water which is the prime incredient is soda pop
No Starbucks - (Supporters of Hollywood)Coffee came from Islam. It was first called the wiine of Islam. Geography issues flare up again, Islam is from the middle east.
No going to the "live" theater. - (It's all Hollywood) Live theater is broadway. we have an epidemic of geography malfunction.
No going to a "show" in Las Vegas. Finally a valid point. vegas has to be a suburb of hollywood.