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Old 07-06-2009, 12:12 PM
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The Damage Of Constanstine.

What damage did the emeperor Constanstine,do to western Christianity by the things he did when was in power ?

Are we still feeling the effects of these changes in the church world today ?
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:19 PM
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Re: The Damage Of Constanstine.

Augustine, Jerome.......

this should be a good thread.


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Old 07-06-2009, 12:22 PM
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Re: The Damage Of Constanstine.

Let me ask this question how much of modern Christianity has been influenced by Greek Philosphy ?
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:24 PM
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Re: The Damage Of Constanstine.

I really don't know....


But I do believe a lot more people have RCC leanings then they realize or will ever admit. I believe , unfortunately, the influence is deep.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:56 PM
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Re: The Damage Of Constanstine.

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Let me ask this question how much of modern Christianity has been influenced by Greek Philosphy ?
For starters:
  • The sacred building for gathering/worship
  • The basillica arrangement of the "sanctuary" with the elevated platform, surrounded by the audience
  • The homily/sermon
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:47 PM
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Re: The Damage Of Constanstine.

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I really don't know....


But I do believe a lot more people have RCC leanings then they realize or will ever admit. I believe , unfortunately, the influence is deep.
Not all the RCC did was evil. The PR was a revolt against indulgences, then doctrine of salvation. But does that mean everything RCC was about was a lie? I don't think so personally.
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:08 PM
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Re: The Damage Of Constanstine.

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For starters:
  • The sacred building for gathering/worship
  • The basillica arrangement of the "sanctuary" with the elevated platform, surrounded by the audience
  • The homily/sermon
Amen.

Also the notion of one's "Sunday best". When Constantine made Christianity the official religion he made Christian leaders of the church public officials. To come before a public official in common attire was considered disrespectful of their office. So many Christians were cast out of churches because they weren't "dressed up". This practice continues to this day in churches where one is expected to wear suit & tie, a fancy dress, etc.
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:16 PM
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Re: The Damage Of Constanstine.

Well, shall we also bring up the heresies in the reformation as well? Constantine destroyed a lot and we are still having issues today. Sadly the reformation probably caused just as much pathetic heresy as the RCC. PAthetic all around really! Wow, what man does to truth.
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Amen.

Also the notion of one's "Sunday best". When Constantine made Christianity the official religion he made Christian leaders of the church public officials. To come before a public official in common attire was considered disrespectful of their office. So many Christians were cast out of churches because they weren't "dressed up". This practice continues to this day in churches where one is expected to wear suit & tie, a fancy dress, etc.
Aquila, surely you don't feel this is wrong or bad? While I'm a fan of mixing things up with a casual mid-week -- or even on Sunday if one wishes, I think dressing up is a sensible option for a church, and not one we should write-off just because the RCC also did that. That's sort of like saying no make-up because Jezebel wore it. Know what I mean?
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:28 PM
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Re: The Damage Of Constanstine.

If you're in a casual city, then go casual. If it's an area where dress-up-to-church is the tradition, stick to dressing up. I think both ideas are sensible though, and neither should be dogmatized.
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