Chronic Pain. Who here lives with it?

[Ferd]

After Ron's request for prayer yesterday, I started thinking about chronic pain and those of us that live with it. You know, until this last episode that started last year, I really didnt realize just how many people live with chronic pain. It is devistaing. there really is no facit of my life that has not been impacted but the thing that has changed in a positive way is compassion for others.

What i have found is that there are more people that live in constant pain every single day of their lives than we realize.

So, i would like to know who here on AFF, live with chronic pain.

I know that

Ferd (back pain)
Ron (back pain)
Praxius (dialisis and a host of other things)

all live with it. so if you live with chronic pain share your story. it doesnt have to be more than just a few words about what the source is or you can give us detail if you wish. But lets be a strenght to one another. I know, that just knowing there are people out there that can relate is a help to me.

[Rhoni]

I suffer from osteoartheritis related to my leg injuried in a 1991 car accident. I have a 12 inch plate in my right femur and about 9 screws in my left hip. I have a torn miniscus in my right knee. I take 800mg of Ibuprophen 2X per day and Nexuim to protect my stomach. On good days I have no trouble walking and you can't tell I have injuries, on bad days I limp and drag my left foot.

I cannot stand cold and therefore when in cold climates I wear layered pants to protect the metal from getting cold in my legs. Taking large doses of magnesium and calcium prevent me from having muscles spasms in my calves.

Blessings, Rhoni

P.S. Compared to death, which was what I was looking at in 1991...I am blessed and highly favored of the Lord.

[ChTatum]

Chronic back pain, left knee, and have been going through something since December of 2006 that we still can't figure out what is going on. That pain is probably the most severe. I did get good news Tuesday, the doctor told me he did not think it was bladder cancer, PTL!

[Ferd]

On July 4th in 1999, I suffered a back injury. All I did was bend over and pick up some trash. Nothing heavy at all. The result was a herniated disk that I have lived with since. In July of ’06, I re-injured it really bad and was off work for 5 months

I had to have surgery to clean up the disk last November and still face the possibility of further surgery to stabilize a rupture that has not been dealt with. I have constant pain in my right leg and hip and take Norco (the strongest Hydrocodone) and Neurontin daily to deal with the pain.

[rgcraig]

I hate being negative, but I do live with chronic pain in my right knee.

I had torn cartilage when I was 16 and had surgery. Eight years ago, I had arthroscopic surgery of the same knee which has basically left no cartilage at all in the one side of my knee, so it's bone on bone.

Eventually, I will need a partial knee replacement, but want to put that off as long as possible because they only last 10 years, so at my 'young' age, I would have to have a couple replacements - lol!

In the meantime, a gel therapy has been helpful (rooster comb shots in my knee).

[QueenEsther]

I have back pain due to my discs being outta line. I am not gonna say mine is every day but it is more often than not and while I have been pregnant it has been pretty much every day. I have been suffering from this since I was a young teenager. All through high school I went to the chiropractor on a regular basis so that I could still be active and play volleyball and have fun. But now that I am older and less active it seems to be much worse.

[Ferd]

I hate being negative, but I do live with chronic pain in my right knee.

I had torn cartilage when I was 16 and had surgery. Eight years ago, I had arthroscopic surgery of the same knee which has basically left no cartilage at all in the one side of my knee, so it's bone on bone.

Eventually, I will need a partial knee replacement, but want to put that off as long as possible because they only last 10 years, so at my 'young' age, I would have to have a couple replacements - lol!

In the meantime, a gel therapy has been helpful (rooster comb shots in my knee).
Renda, thanks for sharing. There is nothing negative about sharing here. it is about people who think they are isolated and alone, realizing that they arent alone and there are people here who understand what they are going thru.

[Esther]

I was in pain most all night.

If you remember two years ago when I ruptured my C6 verebrae in my neck and had to have surgery. I had lost complete use of my right arm due to the nerve being severed.

Well for some reason I am having the same problems again, but it now is when I lay on my sides or stomach my right arm and now sometimes my left go numb down to my fingers.

It hurts to type, count money the things I have to do at work.

I pray I am not looking at more surgery but I need this fixed.

[Ron]

Do I live with Chronic Pain? I refuse to describe my wife that way!:D


Seriously, there are many on here that have had much worse pain then I have had.

I agree Ferd, Renda is not complaining, and I am praying for not only ones I know, but as more burdens are shared I will continue to pray for these needs.:praying

[philjones]

I have chronic atypical fibromyalgia according to my rheumatoligist. Additionally, I have had Radical ACL reconstruction of my right knee, my left knee has been scoped twice, I have had L5 and L6 fused, my left shoulder has been radically reconstructed twice, and I currently have bulging disks at C4,5 & 6. I have also recently developed problems with vascular neuropathy due to my diabetes that causes my feet (specifically the toes and ball of the foot) to burn and hurt and feel like the toes are going to explode.

I suffer greatly and get less than 2 hours of quality sleep a night and rarely more than 4 or 5 hours totally.

all that said, I do not let it slow me down although there is not much I can do about the effect the pain and sleep deprivation have on my performance. I work out every day for approximately 1.5 hours lifting and walking or riding a bike. I find that activity is the key to my being able to continue to be active. I fear that if I ever quit I will shut down.

I actually walked 16 holes of golf yesterday carrying a full 14 club bag but I had to drop two holes to finish due to the pain in my feet. I make it fine for nine holes but my feet really begin to act up on the back nine.

Oh well, enough pettiness! I am truly blessed to be where I am and able to do what I do. I am possessed of a grateful heart!

[Garfield]

I suffer from an extreme case of MIL, but I have learned to live with it. :)

[Digging4Truth]

I hate being negative, but I do live with chronic pain in my right knee.

I had torn cartilage when I was 16 and had surgery. Eight years ago, I had arthroscopic surgery of the same knee which has basically left no cartilage at all in the one side of my knee, so it's bone on bone.

Eventually, I will need a partial knee replacement, but want to put that off as long as possible because they only last 10 years, so at my 'young' age, I would have to have a couple replacements - lol!

In the meantime, a gel therapy has been helpful (rooster comb shots in my knee).

By gel therapy do you mean pectin? I have read a lot about pectin and how it helps rebuild cartilage.

[rgcraig]

By gel therapy do you mean pectin? I have read a lot about pectin and how it helps rebuild cartilage.

http://www.tririversortho.com/pdf/JFTChickenfacts.pdf

[berkeley]

add me to the list..

[Ron]

add me to the list..

I remember. Are you able to get some coverage to get it looked at?

[berkeley]

I remember. Are you able to get some coverage to get it looked at?Went to the doc yesterday. He told me what I already knew... "Your AC Joint is separated.." then he said "the surgeon will be in Monday, he comes in from L.A. With these kinds of cases we rate them 1-3. 3 being more severe. You are a 1. He may not want to operate."


If he does not want to operate I will find someone else to do it, I'll go to a vet.:dogkiss

I NEED to have this surgery!! The doc also said "we don't have your file. It's been over a yr since you've seen us. It is in storage."
Anyway, before the doc came in to see me I could hear my NPR tell him "..I tried to get someone to see him for over a yr and a half and I couldn't get him in with anyone. We have an extensive file on him. His separation is a wide separation."

[Ron]

Went to the doc yesterday. He told me what I already knew... "Your AC Joint is separated.." then he said "the surgeon will be in Monday, he comes in from L.A. With these kinds of cases we rate them 1-3. 3 being more severe. You are a 1. He may not want to operate."


If he does not want to operate I will find someone else to do it, I'll go to a vet.:dogkiss

I NEED to have this surgery!! The doc also said "we don't have your file. It's been over a yr since you've seen us. It is in storage."
Anyway, before the doc came in to see me I could hear my NPR tell him "..I tried to get someone to see him for over a yr and a half and I couldn't get him in with anyone. We have an extensive file on him. His separation is a wide separation."

Praying for you Bro that God will touch you, or that he will connect you with the proper medical help-quickly!:praying

[berkeley]

Praying for you Bro that God will touch you, or that he will connect you with the proper medical help-quickly!:praying:ty I'm staying optimistic...

3 weeks ago I was on the edge...

[Esther]

I have chronic atypical fibromyalgia according to my rheumatoligist. Additionally, I have had Radical ACL reconstruction of my right knee, my left knee has been scoped twice, I have had L5 and L6 fused, my left shoulder has been radically reconstructed twice, and I currently have bulging disks at C4,5 & 6. I have also recently developed problems with vascular neuropathy due to my diabetes that causes my feet (specifically the toes and ball of the foot) to burn and hurt and feel like the toes are going to explode.

I suffer greatly and get less than 2 hours of quality sleep a night and rarely more than 4 or 5 hours totally.

all that said, I do not let it slow me down although there is not much I can do about the effect the pain and sleep deprivation have on my performance. I work out every day for approximately 1.5 hours lifting and walking or riding a bike. I find that activity is the key to my being able to continue to be active. I fear that if I ever quit I will shut down.

I actually walked 16 holes of golf yesterday carrying a full 14 club bag but I had to drop two holes to finish due to the pain in my feet. I make it fine for nine holes but my feet really begin to act up on the back nine.

Oh well, enough pettiness! I am truly blessed to be where I am and able to do what I do. I am possessed of a grateful heart!

My husband plays golf a lot and walks, he has been complaining about his feet hurting too. But get him to go to the doctor:ranting

[HeavenlyOne]

I no longer suffer from chronic pain, but I did for almost two years. Thankfully, I was able to have surgery that implanted a shunt in my brain, and voila! Headache and neurological problems gone and I'm no longer mostly blind.

My experience helps me understand others better where I couldn't understand before. I believe God allowed me to suffer in order to get this understanding. It also helps me in my calling as a nurse.

If you have never suffered, you cannot understand.

[OneAccord]

When I was younger I'd hear people in their 50's talking about their aches and pains. I couldn't believe they could just sit around and hurt in their back, legs, neck or whatever. Well, howdy, now that I'm in my 50's, I understand completely what they were talking about. Chronic pain in my lower back and legs. Seems like I wake up everyday with a new ache. Guess my line of work doesn't help. But, I look around and see people worse off that I am. And, am thankful that my health is as good as it is.

[Esther]

I no longer suffer from chronic pain, but I did for almost two years. Thankfully, I was able to have surgery that implanted a shunt in my brain, and voila! Headache and neurological problems gone and I'm no longer mostly blind.

My experience helps me understand others better where I couldn't understand before. I believe God allowed me to suffer in order to get this understanding. It also helps me in my calling as a nurse.

If you have never suffered, you cannot understand.

I understand more than I want. :sad

[tbpew]

1. Heavenly One; read you testimony somewhere (GNC?), man-o-man, your journey was rough, God's grace is so amazing and my occassional migranes are just "in the noise" every since reading your story.

2. Is this a bad time to ask some of you with neck, back, and joint pain if there was a lifestyle of athletics that coud have been a contributing factor?

Just wondering...

[Walk and Talk]

I have very painful degenerated disks in my back and neck. My shoulders are in constant pain. I'm told I have the worse case of calcified tendons in my shoulder two doctors have ever seen. The surgeon that worked on my accident broken heel and femur did lousy work. His bad work on my wife and I has had to be redone. My wife needed two more surgeries to fix what this first surgeon did. Because of him, I have had to have two more surgeries on my heel - to try to fix what he did. I have had another surgery on my femur to fix what he did. Because of him, I now have a foot that points off too far to the right; I have a leg over an inch too short; and the VA is looking to do a bone graft on my femur. All the surgeons have only wanted to look at the broken bone problems and have put my extremely painful knee on the back burner. My knee has been the source of almost all of my severe pain since the accident, and nobody wants to look at it.

My heart is in A-Fib; I am on Coumadin; my left neck is always swollen; I have pressure in my head; since the 11 surgeries in three years, my memory is going in a bad way; because of limited mobility, my belt has needed to go out several notches; I have a chronic dry cough; I am fatigued most of my days; my nails are purple and nobody wants to look into why (usually heart or liver - I'm told); after a days activity, my belly bloats such that it is hard to put on my pants; my accident injured right eye goes in and out of focus; I have bad GURD; need I go on? I could.

Sorry, I got off the subject of pain. Seems I needed to vent a little.

My wife is disabled and not able to drive. We live in a little town. Chances are, without a miracle, I am not long for this earth. She only receives $265 SSD each month (after Medicare). She won't be able to get my SSD since she is not old enough. I worry about her being isolated here without a support network or fellowship.

Opps - I just vented a little more. Sorry.

Really -- Other then these physical inconveniences, we are doing great spiritually and emotionally. Our eyes are on the Lord. My (our) days are in His hands. We have a "Vision by faith." I don't want to leave my wife to navigate this life alone, so want to live. However, I look forward to putting this life and these trials behind.

Enough venting.
Walk

[Esther]

1. Heavenly One; read you testimony somewhere (GNC?), man-o-man, your journey was rough, God's grace is so amazing and my occassional migranes are just "in the noise" every since reading your story.

2. Is this a bad time to ask some of you with neck, back, and joint pain if there was a lifestyle of athletics that coud have been a contributing factor?

Just wondering...

I have neck problems, but I don't think it is due to any athletics. I played sports all my life until I was in my 40's.

I think mine is work related. But will be very hard to prove.

[Esther]

I have very painful degenerated disks in my back and neck. My shoulders are in constant pain. I'm told I have the worse case of calcified tendons in my shoulder two doctors have ever seen. The surgeon that worked on my accident broken heel and femur did lousy work. His bad work on my wife and I has had to be redone. My wife needed two more surgeries to fix what this first surgeon did. Because of him, I have had to have two more surgeries on my heel - to try to fix what he did. I have had another surgery on my femur to fix what he did. Because of him, I now have a foot that points off too far to the right; I have a leg over an inch too short; and the VA is looking to do a bone graft on my femur. All the surgeons have only wanted to look at the broken bone problems and have put my extremely painful knee on the back burner. My knee has been the source of almost all of my severe pain since the accident, and nobody wants to look at it.

My heart is in A-Fib; I am on Coumadin; my left neck is always swollen; I have pressure in my head; since the 11 surgeries in three years, my memory is going in a bad way; because of limited mobility, my belt has needed to go out several notches; I have a chronic dry cough; I am fatigued most of my days; my nails are purple and nobody wants to look into why (usually heart or liver - I'm told); after a days activity, my belly bloats such that it is hard to put on my pants; my accident injured right eye goes in and out of focus; I have bad GURD; need I go on? I could.

Sorry, I got off the subject of pain. Seems I needed to vent a little.

My wife is disabled and not able to drive. We live in a little town. Chances are, without a miracle, I am not long for this earth. She only receives $265 SSD each month (after Medicare). She won't be able to get my SSD since she is not old enough. I worry about her being isolated here without a support network or fellowship.

Opps - I just vented a little more. Sorry.

Really -- Other then these physical inconveniences, we are doing great spiritually and emotionally. Our eyes are on the Lord. My (our) days are in His hands. We have a "Vision by faith." I don't want to leave my wife to navigate this life alone, so want to live. However, I look forward to putting this life and these trials behind.

Enough venting.
Walk


Brother we need to put you on the prayer list.:praying

[HeavenlyOne]

I have very painful degenerated disks in my back and neck. My shoulders are in constant pain. I'm told I have the worse case of calcified tendons in my shoulder two doctors have ever seen. The surgeon that worked on my accident broken heel and femur did lousy work. His bad work on my wife and I has had to be redone. My wife needed two more surgeries to fix what this first surgeon did. Because of him, I have had to have two more surgeries on my heel - to try to fix what he did. I have had another surgery on my femur to fix what he did. Because of him, I now have a foot that points off too far to the right; I have a leg over an inch too short; and the VA is looking to do a bone graft on my femur. All the surgeons have only wanted to look at the broken bone problems and have put my extremely painful knee on the back burner. My knee has been the source of almost all of my severe pain since the accident, and nobody wants to look at it.

My heart is in A-Fib; I am on Coumadin; my left neck is always swollen; I have pressure in my head; since the 11 surgeries in three years, my memory is going in a bad way; because of limited mobility, my belt has needed to go out several notches; I have a chronic dry cough; I am fatigued most of my days; my nails are purple and nobody wants to look into why (usually heart or liver - I'm told); after a days activity, my belly bloats such that it is hard to put on my pants; my accident injured right eye goes in and out of focus; I have bad GURD; need I go on? I could.

Sorry, I got off the subject of pain. Seems I needed to vent a little.

My wife is disabled and not able to drive. We live in a little town. Chances are, without a miracle, I am not long for this earth. She only receives $265 SSD each month (after Medicare). She won't be able to get my SSD since she is not old enough. I worry about her being isolated here without a support network or fellowship.

Opps - I just vented a little more. Sorry.

Really -- Other then these physical inconveniences, we are doing great spiritually and emotionally. Our eyes are on the Lord. My (our) days are in His hands. We have a "Vision by faith." I don't want to leave my wife to navigate this life alone, so want to live. However, I look forward to putting this life and these trials behind.

Enough venting.
Walk

You go to the VA and they won't do anything more for you, or they can't? In regard to your heart and liver, I mean.

You also need a miracle, my friend. I'm praying for you to receive it. Both of you.

[Walk and Talk]

You go to the VA and they won't do anything more for you, or they can't? In regard to your heart and liver, I mean.

You also need a miracle, my friend. I'm praying for you to receive it. Both of you.

Thanks for praying. Our God hears and answers prayer. I'm so glad He isn't a dumb idol or demon spirit, as so many in this world trust in.

To answer your question: The VA is a long drive away. It is not easy for me to get there. The VA has been a God-send for me. I am so thankful for them being there.

To make an appointment to see a doctor at the VA is to set a date 6 weeks into the future. Each appointment needs to be on one problem and not several at a time. This months Seattle VA Hospital appointment, with the Orthopedic Surgeon, for my leg is an appointment made about a year ago. This is the earliest I could get in to see them. The appointment this month with the Seattle VA Hospital's ENT Surgeon is also an appointment scheduled almost a year ago. They are so backed up, you are fit in according to the urgency of your condition.

As a side note, since the Army and VA hospitals are in the news lately: I must say the Spokane VA Hospital is the best hospital (civilian or otherwise) I've ever been in (6 in the last three years). It is like going to a four-star motel. The Seattle VA Hospital and the Seattle Harborview Hospital are another story that wisdom and discretion dictates my biting my tongue about.

I can't complain too much as I am blessed they all have been there to help me (and my wife). Things could have been MUCH worse.

Walk

[Ferd]

1. Heavenly One; read you testimony somewhere (GNC?), man-o-man, your journey was rough, God's grace is so amazing and my occassional migranes are just "in the noise" every since reading your story.

2. Is this a bad time to ask some of you with neck, back, and joint pain if there was a lifestyle of athletics that coud have been a contributing factor?

Just wondering...
nope. in fact a sedentary lifestyle would be a greater contrtibuting factor than any lifestyle of ahtletics.

[GodsBabyGirl]

For months I had serious back pain...I haven't a clue to this day why. I say it was a spiritual attack.

Also, some female problems caused me to have to be placed on (believe it or not!) LORTAB!!!!

I took it for a few days, and it was crazy!

I am glad to say God has healed me!!!!!!!

Isn't that something? How God keeps on doing that for me????

I love Him so much for that!

Smooches!
Guess who?

[HeavenlyOne]

Thanks for praying. Our God hears and answers prayer. I'm so glad He isn't a dumb idol or demon spirit, as so many in this world trust in.

To answer your question: The VA is a long drive away. It is not easy for me to get there. The VA has been a God-send for me. I am so thankful for them being there.

To make an appointment to see a doctor at the VA is to set a date 6 weeks into the future. Each appointment needs to be on one problem and not several at a time. This months Seattle VA Hospital appointment, with the Orthopedic Surgeon, for my leg is an appointment made about a year ago. This is the earliest I could get in to see them. The appointment this month with the Seattle VA Hospital's ENT Surgeon is also an appointment scheduled almost a year ago. They are so backed up, you are fit in according to the urgency of your condition.

As a side note, since the Army and VA hospitals are in the news lately: I must say the Spokane VA Hospital is the best hospital (civilian or otherwise) I've ever been in (6 in the last three years). It is like going to a four-star motel. The Seattle VA Hospital and the Seattle Harborview Hospital are another story that wisdom and discretion dictates my biting my tongue about.

I can't complain too much as I am blessed they all have been there to help me (and my wife). Things could have been MUCH worse.

Walk

I understand your frustration. There also aren't enough VA hospitals to go around. In my state, I think there are only two. Both are more than two hours from me.

As a nurse, you have me worried.

[Walk and Talk]

... As a nurse, you have me worried.

I don't want to take away from this thread's topic. I especially do not want to have attention drawn to myself (goofed here when I vented above - sorry). I do however want to respond this one last time:

I have quite a bit of medical background. I even "unofficially" ran a prison infirmary for awhile - while they were looking to fill the position. (I was the Prison Chaplain and an officer at the time.) I know the symptoms I mentioned above could be (probably are) indicators of some important things. I do what I can to maintain from day to day. I recently wept my night through before the Lord, worrying about what would happen to my wife when I depart. I know that in the natural, my days are very limited here.

HOWEVER, when in Bible College, I feel the Lord raised me from the dead (physically speaking :heeheehee ). I have received many healing miracles from the Lord in the past; I have been used to minister healing to others; and my wife and I have seen, and can testify to many many supernatural provisions from the Lord over these last three and half years. In the natural my symptoms are something to be concerned about, but our faith is in the Lord and will remain there. PTL

Walk

[Ron]

Admin, could we add these to the Prayer list?

[HeavenlyOne]

I don't want to take away from this thread's topic. I especially do not want to have attention drawn to myself (goofed here when I vented above - sorry). I do however want to respond this one last time:

I have quite a bit of medical background. I even "unofficially" ran a prison infirmary for awhile - while they were looking to fill the position. (I was the Prison Chaplain and an officer at the time.) I know the symptoms I mentioned above could be (probably are) indicators of some important things. I do what I can to maintain from day to day. I recently wept my night through before the Lord, worrying about what would happen to my wife when I depart. I know that in the natural, my days are very limited here.

HOWEVER, when in Bible College, I feel the Lord raised me from the dead (physically speaking :heeheehee ). I have received many healing miracles from the Lord in the past; I have been used to minister healing to others; and my wife and I have seen, and can testify to many many supernatural provisions from the Lord over these last three and half years. In the natural my symptoms are something to be concerned about, but our faith is in the Lord and will remain there. PTL

Walk


God is in control, bro. He knows all things and He is watching out for the both of you. Hang in there.

[HeavenlyOne]

Admin, could we add these to the Prayer list?

Ask Cornelius. :D

[Tina]

Admin, could we add these to the Prayer list?

Post the request in the Prayer Closet forum and let Cornelius go to work.

[rgcraig]

1. Heavenly One; read you testimony somewhere (GNC?), man-o-man, your journey was rough, God's grace is so amazing and my occassional migranes are just "in the noise" every since reading your story.

2. Is this a bad time to ask some of you with neck, back, and joint pain if there was a lifestyle of athletics that coud have been a contributing factor?

Just wondering...

My knee problem seems to be genetic. My first bout with torn cartilage was when I was 16 and I didn't play any type sports.

Actually, the memorable moment that caused severe pain and sent me to surgery happened when I got up from praying at the altar and I couldn't straightened my knee.

[hammondb3klingon1]

I have been a pain in certain areas for some people and yes sometimes even chronic :)

[berkeley]

I'm considering asking the doc for an Px for some herbage.

[tbpew]

I'm considering asking the doc for an Px for some herbage.

glucoma?

[berkeley]

glucoma?
naw.. other issues..

[Ferd]

upon pondering Brother Epley's thread about abuse of perscription drugs, which I agree with him that there is abuse, I have thought about this thread.

For those that have not seen this, take some time to read all the posts here. it might shock you.

for those of you that live in pain every day, I am going to pray for each of you tonight.

[Ron]

Thanks Ferd. I do continue to pray for you as well as others for an answer.

[Ferd]

Thanks Ferd. I do continue to pray for you as well as others for an answer.

Thanks Ron. I appreciate you.


Just wanted to say ive prayed for everyone who posted on this thread that are in chronic pain.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I live next door to my Sister In Law does that count?

[Ron]

Thanks Ron. I appreciate you.


Just wanted to say ive prayed for everyone who posted on this thread that are in chronic pain.

Thee feeling is the same.
I pray the day comes when you can have the freedom to do all the things you've wanted to do and more.

[Ron]

I live next door to my Sister In Law does that count?

:toofunny

[Old Paths]

Pain is no joke.

[ILG]

Hi Ferd,

I think this is a good topic. Pain is something that we seldom talk about...it's hard for me to even write this for some reason. Anyway, I suffer from constant neck and shoulder pain. I see the chiropractor regularly. I also suffer from allergies which I didn't know I had for a very long time. The symptoms I have are harder to pinpoint than most allergy symptoms, but I am tired most of the time and suffer from sinus headaches and get a mild but searing lung pain. Sometimes I have chest pain especially in the fall. I very seldomly feel very good. I'm just used to it I guess, but I always am looking for ways to improve as it seems prescription meds don't help me much or the side effects really get to me. I try to eat right and take different vitamin and herbal supplements. I recently cut back on sugar as well. I have raynauds in my fingers and toes. I also suffer from digestive trouble that I believe is connected to allergies. I recently gave up my one morning cup of cappucinno and it seems to make a difference. Sometimes I feel angry when I see a smoking, overweight person (or such like) who does not take care of themselves and they seem full of energy and life. I seldomly talk about this because most people really don't seem to understand.

[Emma Bontrager]

ILG,

You are a whiner. If you had more faith in God, like I do, you too could have 10 kids and be bright eyed and bushy tailed every morning! It's all about faith! Haven't you ever read that the prayer of faith will save the sick?? See! You just don't have faith like I do.

[HeavenlyOne]

Emma, I wish you'd quit acting like you are ILG!

[Carpenter]

I thought this was a marriage thread...




:slaphappy

[rgcraig]

I thought this was a marriage thread...




:slaphappyWhere's that infraction BUTTON!!!!!!!! :toofunny

[Carpenter]

Where's that infraction BUTTON!!!!!!!! :toofunny

Sure...go ahead, my current one expires in May! :D

[Ronzo]

Seems to me that this entire thread is selfish and self serving.

If you all were REAL people of God, you'd be healed, or at least not be mentioning your pain.

How dare you expect others to be concerned about your pain or understand your needs!









:slaphappy

(complete tongue in cheek post - sorry)

Love y'all. I'm praying for all those with chronic pain. I know that I myself would not be able to handle what you suffer from.

I wish there was something I could say or do that would make it go away.

[CupCake]

Hi Ferd,

I think this is a good topic. Pain is something that we seldom talk about...it's hard for me to even write this for some reason. Anyway, I suffer from constant neck and shoulder pain. I see the chiropractor regularly. I also suffer from allergies which I didn't know I had for a very long time. The symptoms I have are harder to pinpoint than most allergy symptoms, but I am tired most of the time and suffer from sinus headaches and get a mild but searing lung pain. Sometimes I have chest pain especially in the fall. I very seldomly feel very good. I'm just used to it I guess, but I always am looking for ways to improve as it seems prescription meds don't help me much or the side effects really get to me. I try to eat right and take different vitamin and herbal supplements. I recently cut back on sugar as well. I have raynauds in my fingers and toes. I also suffer from digestive trouble that I believe is connected to allergies. I recently gave up my one morning cup of cappucinno and it seems to make a difference. Sometimes I feel angry when I see a smoking, overweight person (or such like) who does not take care of themselves and they seem full of energy and life. I seldomly talk about this because most people really don't seem to understand.


Hear you, I use to run 5 miles a day six days a week until 2003. I have Fibromyalgia and in pain most days, yet I do my best to stay healthy, eat right, exercise on the treadmill 5 days for three mills, etc.

[Ferd]

Hi Ferd,

I think this is a good topic. Pain is something that we seldom talk about...it's hard for me to even write this for some reason. Anyway, I suffer from constant neck and shoulder pain. I see the chiropractor regularly. I also suffer from allergies which I didn't know I had for a very long time. The symptoms I have are harder to pinpoint than most allergy symptoms, but I am tired most of the time and suffer from sinus headaches and get a mild but searing lung pain. Sometimes I have chest pain especially in the fall. I very seldomly feel very good. I'm just used to it I guess, but I always am looking for ways to improve as it seems prescription meds don't help me much or the side effects really get to me. I try to eat right and take different vitamin and herbal supplements. I recently cut back on sugar as well. I have raynauds in my fingers and toes. I also suffer from digestive trouble that I believe is connected to allergies. I recently gave up my one morning cup of cappucinno and it seems to make a difference. Sometimes I feel angry when I see a smoking, overweight person (or such like) who does not take care of themselves and they seem full of energy and life. I seldomly talk about this because most people really don't seem to understand.

I think there are more people out here that understand then we think. Ive talked openly about pain, and the result has been a lot of others have shared with me the chronic pain they live with....quietly.

[ILG]

I think there are more people out here that understand then we think. Ive talked openly about pain, and the result has been a lot of others have shared with me the chronic pain they live with....quietly.

Well, maybe I should talk more. I think it's just that I started out in the UPC talking about emotional pain and that never got anywhere. Emotional pain is more eshewed than physical pain.

[rgcraig]

Well, maybe I should talk more. I think it's just that I started out in the UPC talking about emotional pain and that never got anywhere. Emotional pain is more eshewed than physical pain.

However, emotional pain, like depression CAN actually cause physical pain too - usually associated with stress.

[ILG]

However, emotional pain, like depression CAN actually cause physical pain too - usually associated with stress.

Absolutely. I think that some (maybe most) of the physical pain I have now is from years of not being allowed to express the emotional pain I was feeling with acceptance. This is why I am a big proponent of allowing people to grieve what they have been through even though people who do so are consistently called "whiners" by some.