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ChicagoPastor
12-10-2007, 08:45 PM
Does anyone know him?
He is/was an Evangelist in the UPC....very powerful testimony "from cocaine to the calling"

Anyhow, I haven't seen or heard of anything from him in a while and I came across his website that says he's Pastoring in Clarksville, TN and that someone donated 2 million dollars to build them a building, ect. It all sounds incredible.

Anyhow, i'm just wondering if he's still in the UPC or what he's up to

thanks.


www.churchofchampions.com (that's his website)

seguidordejesus
12-10-2007, 08:47 PM
No longer in UPC, I hear. Came through to a couple of church with promises to build free websites which he never did, causing great inconvenience to many who had unfortunately thought that (*gasp*) he would do what he said he would.

I believe he's now more of a PCI guy lined up with NCO.

Coonskinner
12-10-2007, 08:47 PM
Yep, I've heard of him.

Encryptus
12-10-2007, 08:49 PM
No longer UPC.

Was helped through a rough time by W Hutchins at CoC Houston.

Shortly after started his church in TN.

If his report is accurate then he has been blessed.

Wish him well.

James Griffin
12-10-2007, 08:51 PM
No longer in UPC, I hear. Came through to a couple of church with promises to build free websites which he never did, causing great inconvenience to many who had unfortunately thought that (*gasp*) he would do what he said he would.

I believe he's now more of a PCI guy lined up with NCO.

No longer connected with NCO.

Coonskinner
12-10-2007, 08:53 PM
No longer connected with NCO.

You don't say.

seguidordejesus
12-10-2007, 08:54 PM
No longer connected with NCO.

I stand corrected.

James Griffin
12-10-2007, 08:57 PM
I stand corrected.

You were correct, he was.

More or less amicable parting.

NOT over doctrinal issues.

:bells

Coonskinner
12-10-2007, 09:00 PM
You were correct, he was.

More or less amicable parting.

NOT over doctrinal issues.

:bells

Just out of curiousity, what doctrine would you all boot a man out over?

Baptism in the titles?

Teaching trinity doctrine?

Preterism?

Obviously divine flesh is no big deal.

What doctrines would exclude a man from your fellowship?

James Griffin
12-10-2007, 09:05 PM
Just out of curiousity, what doctrine would you all boot a man out over?

Baptism in the titles?

Teaching trinity doctrine?

Preterism?

Obviously divine flesh is no big deal.

What doctrines would exclude a man from your fellowship?

LOL so are you saying the men in Tulsa are being booted out?

Or is it possible to have an amicable disagreement over direction and part ways?

As far as your other suggestions. KP,JS,WH are all still very Acts 2:38 in their doctrine and would all qualify as moderates in the UPC if they were still part of the organization.

Which unlike MOST of what gets reported on this forum is not hearsay, since I have personally heard all three preach and teach recently and repeatedly.

Ronzo
12-10-2007, 09:08 PM
LOL so are you saying the men in Tulsa are being booted out?

Or is it possible to have an amicable disagreement over direction and part ways?

As far as your other suggestions. KP,JS,WH are all still very Acts 2:38 in their doctrine and would all qualify as moderates in the UPC if they were still part of the organization.

Which unlike MOST of what gets reported on this forum is not hearsay, since I have personally heard all three preach and teach recently and repeatedly.
KP will flat out say if you don't have the Holy Ghost, i.e. "Speak in Tongues", you're going to hell.

He's wrong... but he has no problem saying it nonetheless.

Coonskinner
12-10-2007, 09:09 PM
That didn't answer my question.

CC1
12-10-2007, 09:10 PM
Just out of curiousity, what doctrine would you all boot a man out over?

Baptism in the titles?

Teaching trinity doctrine?

Preterism?

Obviously divine flesh is no big deal.

What doctrines would exclude a man from your fellowship?

-Preaching against white shoes
-Preaching against wearing red
-Preaching against wedding rings

Should I go on?:jolly

Coonskinner
12-10-2007, 09:15 PM
-Preaching against white shoes
-Preaching against wearing red
-Preaching against wedding rings

Should I go on?:jolly

I suspect you are right. :)

ChicagoPastor
12-10-2007, 09:20 PM
Bro. Griffen, is Shane out of the UPC as well?


p.s.
does anyone know why he pulled out of the UPC?

James Griffin
12-10-2007, 09:22 PM
Bro. Griffen, is Shane out of the UPC as well?


p.s.
does anyone know why he pulled out of the UPC?

Yessir, he is no longer UPCI.

We discussed it while he was in Houston, but it would be for him to say.

SDG
12-10-2007, 09:39 PM
Just out of curiousity, what doctrine would you all boot a man out over?

Baptism in the titles?

Teaching trinity doctrine?

Preterism?

Obviously divine flesh is no big deal.

What doctrines would exclude a man from your fellowship?

Why not ask an intellectually honest question .... really.

Who said Shane was excluded or excluded himself .... ?

Thad
12-10-2007, 10:19 PM
AWW MAN i was coming home to start a thread on this tonight!
you beat me to it- Mine would have had a little more punch to it :christmasjig

Neck
12-10-2007, 10:20 PM
Why not ask an intellectually honest question .... really.

Who said Shane was excluded or excluded himself .... ?

Dan help me out I just crushed in the Lee Stoneking thread!

:christmoose

James Griffin
12-10-2007, 10:23 PM
AWW MAN i was coming home to start a thread on this tonight!
you beat me to it- Mine would have had a little more punch to it :christmasjig

Punch away ThadMan :star

James Griffin
12-10-2007, 10:24 PM
Dan help me out I just crushed in the Lee Stoneking thread!

:christmoose

Actually you merely expressed a personal preference as to style, and were slammed for it.

:christmasjig

Thad
12-10-2007, 10:30 PM
Punch away ThadMan :star



He already took the wind out of my sail James.

Did you read that introduction??? It was about as dry as corn chucks :jolly

James Griffin
12-10-2007, 10:35 PM
He already took the wind out of my sail James.

Did you read that introduction??? It was about as dry as corn chucks :jolly

He is an interesting person.

:horn

pelathais
12-11-2007, 12:06 AM
No longer in UPC, I hear. Came through to a couple of church with promises to build free websites which he never did, causing great inconvenience to many who had unfortunately thought that (*gasp*) he would do what he said he would.

I believe he's now more of a PCI guy lined up with NCO.
What does "more of a PCI guy" mean? The PCI ceased to exist with the merger in 1945.

BoredOutOfMyMind
12-11-2007, 12:42 AM
It would have been interesting to have Coonskinner's question answered.

More duck and hide.

ChicagoPastor
12-11-2007, 12:43 AM
I don't know what Shane holds onto or doesn't anymore but the man has gone from ultra ultra con to now what appears to be ultra lib.

He used to run with an ultra con group in california, they're not UPC they might have even been trinitarian but they were hard-core cons, I wish i could remember their names....

James Griffin
12-11-2007, 12:51 AM
I don't know what Shane holds onto or doesn't anymore but the man has gone from ultra ultra con to now what appears to be ultra lib.

He used to run with an ultra con group in california, they're not UPC they might have even been trinitarian but they were hard-core cons, I wish i could remember their names....

Granted it has been several months since I have spoken to him, but he struck me as more moderate than "ultra lib".

Thad
12-11-2007, 12:53 AM
This one is worth a New thread with another twist ! :horn

seguidordejesus
12-11-2007, 05:57 AM
What does "more of a PCI guy" mean? The PCI ceased to exist with the merger in 1945.

As long as you've been here, you don't know what I'm talking about?

(1-stepper)

John Atkinson
12-11-2007, 06:04 AM
Bro West is a long time personal friend. I can say that he was never what I would consider ultra-con. More of a moderate I would think. Last time I saw him he was wearing a short sleeve checkered shirt and a bright orange pair of those funny shoes....clocks....crocs...crocs.

I know the story but don't think it appropriate to post it here. (No, I won't pm it to you either, gossip isn't my bag)

ChicagoPastor
12-11-2007, 06:37 AM
Bro West is a long time personal friend. I can say that he was never what I would consider ultra-con. More of a moderate I would think. Last time I saw him he was wearing a short sleeve checkered shirt and a bright orange pair of those funny shoes....clocks....crocs...crocs.

I know the story but don't think it appropriate to post it here. (No, I won't pm it to you either, gossip isn't my bag)

When he first got saved Shane belonged to a real ultra con group, in California.
I can't remember the name of the group (God's soldiers, something like that, maybe Thad knows). He told me about them...

While in the UPC, he was moderate.

John Atkinson
12-11-2007, 06:58 AM
When he first got saved Shane belonged to a real ultra con group, in California.
I can't remember the name of the group (God's soldiers, something like that, maybe Thad knows). He told me about them...

While in the UPC, he was moderate.
I didn't know him prior to the UPC. Known him about 5 years.

John Atkinson
12-11-2007, 07:05 AM
If I am remembering right that group he was originally with wasn't even oneness. He had been with the UPC for quite some time.

LadyChocolate
12-11-2007, 07:27 AM
I don't know what Shane holds onto or doesn't anymore but the man has gone from ultra ultra con to now what appears to be ultra lib.

He used to run with an ultra con group in california, they're not UPC they might have even been trinitarian but they were hard-core cons, I wish i could remember their names....

He was saved in a trinitarian church. Then he saw the revelation of the oneness of God. That is what I think I understood. Anyway, he did run around with some very ultra con men for a while but that was several years ago.

Coonskinner
12-11-2007, 03:49 PM
Why not ask an intellectually honest question .... really.

Who said Shane was excluded or excluded himself .... ?

My question was about the NCO, not Shane West.

Nothing dishonest about that, and I'm not sure why you would imply that.

JG said plainly his parting wasn't over doctrine.

LordChocolate
12-11-2007, 08:06 PM
I know SKW pretty well. He was a trinitarian preacher who saw the oneness. He attended bro morton's church for a while after his revelation. He then left the upc and ran with VERY Ultra Con men for quite some time. He went back upci for a while and is now non denominational. He did get a nice sum to build a church and is attempting to do that in TN. I am saying all of this not for gossip but to set the record straight. He is still oneness and baptizes in Jesus Name. He is extremely good with bringing hope to people but is not a "doctrinal" preacher. There is a lot of gossip out there concerning him but if you need to know something, please ask him. Go to his website and contact him.

TRFrance
12-11-2007, 08:56 PM
Dan help me out I just crushed in the Lee Stoneking thread!

:christmoose

No you didn't.

"Crushed" is such an unfortunate choice of words. :o

berkeley
12-12-2007, 08:31 AM
I wish I still had in my posession a tape Shane West Ministries had sent me when I was a teen. I would then be able to answer all the questions about his beginnings.

berkeley
12-12-2007, 08:33 AM
I guess this is their 'statement of faith'.

http://www.churchofchampions.com/discover.html

deadeye
12-12-2007, 09:28 AM
I just think that the fella with the tank top and tattoo is a very good indication of where Shane has went.

berkeley
12-12-2007, 09:37 AM
I just think that the fella with the tank top and tattoo is a very good indication of where Shane has went.

I think that it is an indication that he wants EVERYONE to feel welcome at his church.

Glass... half empty... half full...

deadeye
12-12-2007, 11:20 AM
I knew Shane very well before, and he has drifted so far left that what he was is no longer.

Sister Alvear
06-20-2008, 08:36 PM
I knew him...very sad.

Mrs. LPW
06-20-2008, 08:43 PM
Did this same fellow sing as well?
Never mind, I'm thinking of Matthew West.

Nahum
06-20-2008, 08:53 PM
I knew him...very sad.

Did he die or something?

He's My Friend
06-20-2008, 08:55 PM
At one time his messages were available through Bro Ren Rutledge (sp)...I forgot the website addr. ( this was a few years ago, he may not have them listed anymore).

The last time I heard SW preach was summer of 2006, and he could flat out preach.
God used him in an awesome way that day...there was no mistaking the gifts in his life at the time.
We bought a few of his cd's and sent them to Iraq to my husband.

The family needs our prayers.
I saw 2 small boys that loved their dad, when he came to preach for us.

Cindy
06-20-2008, 08:55 PM
Is this the same one we were discussing on another thread that got closed?

Brother Price
06-20-2008, 08:55 PM
When I found out the news, my heart almost dropped out of me. I am going to pray for this man of God, that he be delivered, and restored.

Cindy
06-20-2008, 08:56 PM
When I found out the news, my heart almost dropped out of me. I am going to pray for this man of God, that he be delivered, and restored.

Amen, Brother Price. God is faithful.

He's My Friend
06-20-2008, 08:56 PM
Is this the same one we were discussing on another thread that got closed?

yes

Brother Price
06-20-2008, 08:58 PM
Amen, Brother Price. God is faithful.
No games and no joking... I am still in shock. It shows me that any of us can fall, and that when one does, we must restore such a one in the spirit of meekness and humility.

Cindy
06-20-2008, 08:59 PM
No games and no joking... I am still in shock. It shows me that any of us can fall, and that when one does, we must restore such a one in the spirit of meekness and humility.

Brother God delivered me from that addiction. I give Him all the Glory.

He's My Friend
06-20-2008, 09:02 PM
No games and no joking... I am still in shock. It shows me that any of us can fall, and that when one does, we must restore such a one in the spirit of meekness and humility.

Amen Bro P.

I want to see this brother restored, along with others.

I don't want anyone to be lost.

Praying for this family.

CC1
06-20-2008, 09:42 PM
BTW - The other thread is open again.

jaxfam6
06-21-2008, 01:04 PM
Bro. Griffen, is Shane out of the UPC as well?


p.s.
does anyone know why he pulled out of the UPC?

I have a suggestion. You seem to have his website so why not, now here is an idea, ASK HIM.
Why get on here and ask for all the gossip about the man? If you want to know simply go to the man himself and ask. If he wants to tell you he will. But better to be told none of you business than to get all sorts of stories going from people who may or may not know part or none of the FACTS.

clgustaveson
06-21-2008, 01:04 PM
I love Shane West, friend of the family and great minister.

jediwill83
06-21-2008, 09:16 PM
Knew him about 11 years ago.Good guy....was like 13 then.I was going to a Apostolic school at the time but was attending a UPC church.Got to hear him preach several revivals.

CC1
06-21-2008, 09:33 PM
I love Shane West, friend of the family and great minister.

If he is preaching tomorrow should be an interesting sermon.

Brother Price
06-21-2008, 09:38 PM
Shane is a man who is used mightily of the Lord, and right now is in need of our prayers. We do not need to jump on a bandwagon of shaming or judging. If he is addicted, then there is deliverance, and that would make him no different than several other preachers who have had, and some secretly still do have, the same problem.

I do not say this as saying anyone has spoken to shame him, but I know some will take this and run with it, and of such men, we should have no part. David and many other great men of the Bible had their sins, their secrets, but God still used them, and if I may be so bold as to say, used them more mightily afterwards than before.

ChicagoPastor
06-21-2008, 10:00 PM
ADMIN

please consider deleting or closing this thread...

I started this thread MONTHS ago but given the 'news' I don't want my mine associated with this AT ALL....

someone will look and think i started the thread talking bad about Shane...

I want NO association with the "bash Shane" party.

thank you.

ChicagoPastor
06-21-2008, 10:01 PM
Shane is a man who is used mightily of the Lord, and right now is in need of our prayers. We do not need to jump on a bandwagon of shaming or judging. If he is addicted, then there is deliverance, and that would make him no different than several other preachers who have had, and some secretly still do have, the same problem.

I do not say this as saying anyone has spoken to shame him, but I know some will take this and run with it, and of such men, we should have no part. David and many other great men of the Bible had their sins, their secrets, but God still used them, and if I may be so bold as to say, used them more mightily afterwards than before.

Bill,
thank you for your awesome post...

Brother Price
06-21-2008, 10:01 PM
ADMIN

please consider deleting or closing this thread...

I started this thread MONTHS ago but given the 'news' I don't want my mine associated with this AT ALL....

someone will look and think i started the thread talking bad about Shane...

I want NO association with the "bash Shane" party.

thank you.
CP, the only people who would say that are those who desire to start trouble. No one else.

Admin
06-21-2008, 11:03 PM
ADMIN

please consider deleting or closing this thread...

I started this thread MONTHS ago but given the 'news' I don't want my mine associated with this AT ALL....

someone will look and think i started the thread talking bad about Shane...

I want NO association with the "bash Shane" party.

thank you.


Thread closed at the request of the OP.