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rgcraig
12-17-2007, 06:53 PM
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Wild at Heart

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Helping men rediscover their masculine heart, Wild at Heart, a guide to understanding Christian manhood and Christian men, offers a refreshing break from the chorus of voices urging men to be more responsible, reliable, dutiful ... and dead. God designed men to be dangerous, says Eldredge. Simply look at the dreams and desires written in every boy's heart: to be a hero, to be a warrior, to live a life of adventure and risk. Sadly, most men abandon those dreams and desires---aided by a Christianity that feels like nothing more than pressure to be a "nice guy." It's no wonder that many men avoid church, and those who go are often passive and bored to death. In this provocative book, Eldredge gives women a look inside the true heart of a man and gives men permission to be what God designed them to be---dangerous, passionate, alive, and free.

Has anyone read this book or listened to the CD's? I've heard it's a great book. I'd like to get it for my son and SIL to be. Any opinions?

Does this handle some of the issues we've discussed about men being too "soft" these days?

LaVonne
12-17-2007, 07:12 PM
Renda,

My husband read this awhile back and really liked it. It does address the issue you asked about. It deals with what makes a man come alive. They are trinitarian, so the theology is a little messed up.

Rhoni
12-17-2007, 07:13 PM
I'll read it and let you know. I personally would love a wild, dangerous, and passionate man.

Blessings, Rhoni

staysharp
12-17-2007, 07:15 PM
Renda,

My husband read this awhile back and really liked it. It does address the issue you asked about. It deals with what makes a man come alive. They are trinitarian, so the theology is a little messed up.

Oh please! They're right on everything else but their theology? Good grief.

LaVonne
12-17-2007, 07:18 PM
Oh please! They're right on everything else but their theology? Good grief.

What???

Rhoni
12-17-2007, 07:18 PM
Oh please! They're right on everything else but their theology? Good grief.
:santathumbI was thinking the same thing:christmoose

ManOfWord
12-17-2007, 07:20 PM
I have used this for our men. When I read the book it really messed me up! I wept. I would HIGHLY recommend this book for any man of God.

I gave this book to one of the ministers in our church. His wife called me and asked me about the book because while he was reading it, he began to cry, put it down and told her that he didn't love her as he should. She was freaked out. I told her that it would be OK when he finished it. He did, and it was. It is very powerful.

We need more WILD men in the body of Christ. Men who will do exploits and not be the soft, mild, milk toast mannered, effeminate men who play.......well, I won't go there. :D

rgcraig
12-17-2007, 07:26 PM
I have used this for our men. When I read the book it really messed me up! I wept. I would HIGHLY recommend this book for any man of God.

I gave this book to one of the ministers in our church. His wife called me and asked me about the book because while he was reading it, he began to cry, put it down and told her that he didn't love her as he should. She was freaked out. I told her that it would be OK when he finished it. He did, and it was. It is very powerful.

We need more WILD men in the body of Christ. Men who will do exploits and not be the soft, mild, milk toast mannered, effeminate men who play.......well, I won't go there. :DThanks! This happened to a friend of mine that read it too. He then asked his wife to listen to the CD's with him. It's really brought them closer together.

Scott Hutchinson
12-17-2007, 07:33 PM
I have never heard of this book, but it sounds like one I could stand to read.

nahkoe
12-17-2007, 07:36 PM
I'll read it and let you know. I personally would love a wild, dangerous, and passionate man.

Blessings, Rhoni

LOL! I read that little piece and had exactly the same thought. "I could go for a man like that.."

Ronzo
12-17-2007, 07:38 PM
I think I'm going to pick up Wild at Heart now...


Renda,

You should check out another book by John Eldredge called "Waking the Dead". It's pretty much what set me on the road I'm on now... It opened my eyes to the fact that there was a whole lot more romance in my walk with God than churchianity, "pentecost" included, would have me think...

nahkoe
12-17-2007, 07:41 PM
I think I'm going to pick up Wild at Heart now...

I was wondering how many single men were going to go looking for this book after this thread. lol

rgcraig
12-17-2007, 07:42 PM
I think I'm going to pick up Wild at Heart now...


Renda,

You should check out another book by John Eldredge called "Waking the Dead". It's pretty much what set me on the road I'm on now... It opened my eyes to the fact that there was a whole lot more romance in my walk with God than churchianity, "pentecost" included, would have me think...

I saw it tonight too. Would it be suitable for me to read or is it geared for men too?

rgcraig
12-17-2007, 07:43 PM
I was wondering how many single men were going to go looking for this book after this thread. lol

Lol! Well, I think married men could benefit from it - especially their wives.

nahkoe
12-17-2007, 07:44 PM
Renda..Rhoni..Ronzo, someone who might read this.... Could you let me know if this is something I should take a look at as a single mom of 3 boy type people?

I just discovered my 9 year old has a crush tonight! I am so very not ready for this....... I don't wanna mess up now.

rgcraig
12-17-2007, 07:48 PM
Renda..Rhoni..Ronzo, someone who might read this.... Could you let me know if this is something I should take a look at as a single mom of 3 boy type people?

I just discovered my 9 year old has a crush tonight! I am so very not ready for this....... I don't wanna mess up now.

You don't need a book, you need prayer! LOL! I don't have a suggestion, but man there are tons of books out there - - just take a little bit of time at a Christian bookstore.

nahkoe
12-17-2007, 07:56 PM
You don't need a book, you need prayer! LOL! I don't have a suggestion, but man there are tons of books out there - - just take a little bit of time at a Christian bookstore.


You said it! He's the oldest and then there's 4 of them (boy, girl, boy, boy, my poor, poor girl child!) by the time he was 6. I don't think I'm gonna be getting any breaks here for a few years.... :reaction

I might do that while they're visiting daddy over Christmas break. Not always the most pleasant taking them all into...well...anywhere. lol

Scott Hutchinson
12-17-2007, 08:03 PM
If my wife would benefit from the book, then I definitely need to read it.

ManOfWord
12-17-2007, 08:13 PM
Renda..Rhoni..Ronzo, someone who might read this.... Could you let me know if this is something I should take a look at as a single mom of 3 boy type people?

I just discovered my 9 year old has a crush tonight! I am so very not ready for this....... I don't wanna mess up now.

Absolutely!!!! It will help you understand that male warrior heart. :D

Ronzo
12-17-2007, 08:26 PM
I saw it tonight too. Would it be suitable for me to read or is it geared for men too?
Waking the Dead is for anyone longing for a deeper relationship with God.

There was one section that had a trinitarian slant to it, but I just reformed it in my mind to view it from a different perspective.

Everything else was pretty powerful.

Ronzo
12-17-2007, 08:27 PM
I was wondering how many single men were going to go looking for this book after this thread. lol
I'm not ready for dating again yet, but I sure would like to know more about this concept...

And making oneself as attractive as possible doesn't hurt... ;)

Ronzo
12-17-2007, 08:31 PM
Waking the Dead on Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Waking-Dead-Glory-Heart-Fully/dp/0785288295/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197948558&sr=8-1)


Editorial Reviews


From Publishers Weekly
Eldredge, who helped to redefine the Christian men's movement with Wild at Heart, broadens his scope to offer this more general spirituality title on being "fully alive." Such a state of total animation is achieved only when Christians can integrate all four "streams" of their lives: discipleship, counseling, healing and warfare. (This last part may surprise some readers, but Eldredge insists that awareness of spiritual warfare actually "may be the most critical" aspect of being fully alive.) Throughout, he argues that there is glory hidden in each Christian's heart, an echo of how Christ has "ransomed and restored" every person. The goal, then, is to capture and maintain a sense of liberation from that restoration. Eldredge fans will find that he has not departed much from the formula that made Wild at Heart so successful; he culls examples from popular culture (The Perfect Storm, The Matrix, The Lord of the Rings, The Wizard of Oz) and tells vivid stories from his own experience. Despite the careful formula, the book rarely feels formulaic; it has an unguarded heart and an opinionated lucidity that may surprise readers. Eldredge is honest about the fact that life can be arduous, confusing and filled with despair, but he also affirms a deep Christian hope. Established Eldredge fans will be pleased with this new offering, and it will gather some new readers, especially women.
Copyright 2003 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to the Hardcover (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785265538/ref=dp_proddesc_1?ie=UTF8&n=283155) edition.



From AudioFile (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/1000027671)
A Christian teacher with the Focus on the Family Institute and the author of WILD AT HEART, Eldredge uses his broad knowledge of the Bible, mythology, and modern Christian writing to make his point: Conflicts and challenges in this world will put us to sleep if we don't pay close attention to them. Engaging with the world releases the vitality and energy of the heart that is our birthright. This is a long stream-of-consciousness presentation, breathy and full of the author's intensity. In this audio offering, his ideas will either start a revolution--with "all the power of a new Reformation"--or be an object lesson on how to turn a decent lesson into a polarizing expression of professional hubris. T.W. © AudioFile 2004, Portland, Maine-- Copyright © AudioFile, Portland, Maine --This text refers to the Audio CD (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1589263685/ref=dp_proddesc_2?ie=UTF8&n=283155) edition.

nahkoe
12-17-2007, 08:51 PM
I'm not ready for dating again yet, but I sure would like to know more about this concept...

And making oneself as attractive as possible doesn't hurt... ;)


I hear you on every point here. lol

It's been 3 years and I'm only just giving any thought to dating. Still haven't actually done any though.

Raven
12-17-2007, 09:35 PM
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Wild at Heart

Product Description
Helping men rediscover their masculine heart, Wild at Heart, a guide to understanding Christian manhood and Christian men, offers a refreshing break from the chorus of voices urging men to be more responsible, reliable, dutiful ... and dead. God designed men to be dangerous, says Eldredge. Simply look at the dreams and desires written in every boy's heart: to be a hero, to be a warrior, to live a life of adventure and risk. Sadly, most men abandon those dreams and desires---aided by a Christianity that feels like nothing more than pressure to be a "nice guy." It's no wonder that many men avoid church, and those who go are often passive and bored to death. In this provocative book, Eldredge gives women a look inside the true heart of a man and gives men permission to be what God designed them to be---dangerous, passionate, alive, and free.

Has anyone read this book or listened to the CD's? I've heard it's a great book. I'd like to get it for my son and SIL to be. Any opinions?

Does this handle some of the issues we've discussed about men being too "soft" these days?

I read the book about two years ago and then immediately read it again. I then bought copies for my two sons and son-in-law. It is a tremendous book!
Anyone would benefit from reading it but especially husbands and coming of age young men. You will have to be familiar with certain movies and stories to fully appreciate its underlying message. Yes, a very good book and one of my favorites.
Raven

rgcraig
12-18-2007, 05:36 AM
Thanks MOW, Ronzo and Raven!

I'll get this for my son and SIL to be for Christmas!

rgcraig
12-18-2007, 06:24 AM
For the Women:


Captivating
John Eldredge

Unveiling The Mystery of a Woman's Soul

Every woman was once a little girl. And every little girl holds in her heart her most precious dreams. She longs to be swept up into a romance, to play an irreplaceable role in a great adventure, to be the Beauty of the story. Those desires are far more than child's play. They are the secret to the feminine heart.

And yet--how many women do you know who ever find that life? As the years pass by, the heart of a woman gets pushed aside, wounded, buried. She finds no romance except in novels, no adventure except on television, and she doubts very much that she will ever be the Beauty in any tale.

Most women think they have to settle for a life of efficiency and duty, chores and errands, striving to be the women they "ought" to be, but often feeling they have failed. Sadly, too many messages for Christian women add to the pressure. "Do these ten things, and you will be a godly woman." The effect has not been good on the feminine soul.

But her heart is still there. Sometimes when she watches a movie, sometimes in the wee hours of the night, her heart begins to speak again. A thirst rises within her to find the life she was meant to live--the life she dreamed of as a little girl.

The message of Captivating is this: Your heart matters more than anything else in all creation. The desires you had as a little girl and the longings you still feel as a woman--they are telling you of the life God created you to live. He offers to come now as the Hero of your story, to rescue your heart and release you to live as a fully alive and feminine woman.

A woman who is truly captivating!

rgcraig
12-18-2007, 06:25 AM
Wild At Heart
Discovering the Secret of a Man's Soul

A Battle to fight. An Adventure to live. A Beauty to rescue. This is what a man longs for. This is what makes him come alive. Look at the films men love. For that matter, look at the dreams of little boys, the games they play. There is something fierce, passionate, and wild in the heart of every man. That is how he bears the image of God. And the reason that most men "live lives of quiet desperation" (Thoreau) is because men have been told that the reason God put them on earth is to be a good boy. To be nice.

God designed men to be dangerous. Simply look at the dreams and desires written in the heart of every boy: To be a hero, to be a warrior, to live a life of adventure and risk. Sadly, most men abandon those dreams and desires--aided by a Christianity that feels like nothing more than pressure to be a nice guy. It is no wonder that many men avoid church, and those who go are often passive and bored to death.

Now, in all your boyhood dreams growing up, did you ever dream of becoming a nice guy? Ladies, was the Prince of your dreams dashing... or merely nice? "We've taken away the dreams of a man's heart and told him to play the man." As C.S. Lewis said, 'We castrate the gelding and bid him be fruitful."

This is a message about the recovery and release of a man's heart--his passions, which he has been given by God. To take that adventure, visit our store for the book and the Wild at Heart Field Manual--a personal guide to the masculine journey. For those adventuring with a band of brothers, we have a Wild at Heart: A Band of Brothers Video Series.

rgcraig
12-18-2007, 06:26 AM
The Sacred Romance
John Eldredge
Drawing Closer to the Heart of God

In the heart of every person lies an inconsolable longing. Men often know it as the hunger for adventure. Women tend to feel it as a thirst for intimacy. This longing is the secret of our lives. It tells us who we are, what our life was meant to be.

If you have ever felt those deep yearnings, we have some really good news: This is what the Gospel truly offers. Life is more than chores, and Christianity is more than duty. It is a Sacred Romance--a great love story set in the midst of a life and death battle.

The Sacred Romance strikes a chord in us because more than in any other age, we have lost touch with our hearts. We have left that essential part of ourselves behind in the pursuit of efficiency, success, even Christian service.

If you long for something more, even if you don't know what that something is, then read this profound book. Before long you will find yourself eagerly turning the pages to find out what happens next. The Sacred Romance is the story of our lives; it is God's story. It is His invitation to experience the beauty, intimacy, and adventure we secretly desire.

rgcraig
12-18-2007, 06:29 AM
The Way of the Wild Heart
John Eldredge
A Map for the Masculine Journey

This is a book about how a boy--and a man--becomes a man.

It's a guide to the process of masculine initiation--that ancient path every boy and man must take if they would become the man they long to be. The path whereby they come to know they are a man and are able to live and love from a deep, centered strength.

We live in a time where most men (and boys) are essentially fatherless. Whatever their circumstance, they have no man actually taking them through the many adventures, trials, battles, and experiences they need to shape a masculine heart within them. They find themselves on their own to figure life out, and that is a lonely place to be. Their fears, anger, boredom, and their many addictions all come out of this fatherless place within them--a fundamental uncertainty in the core of their being.

But there is a way.

"We aren't meant to figure life out on our own," says Eldredge. "God wants to father us."

In The Way of the Wild Heart, John Eldredge reveals how God comes to a man and takes him on the masculine journey--how nearly all the events of a man's life can come together to provide the initiation he never received. And how parents can offer that initiation to their sons. ...

Whatever your age may be, your Father is ready to take up your journey. For you are his son.

Rachel
12-18-2007, 07:02 AM
Captivating is an amazing read!

Coonskinner
12-18-2007, 07:06 AM
Sounds like a good read...

The sad thing is that our culture has been so neutered that a book like that is deemed necessary.

Where I came from, there were a lot of dysfunctions for sure, but being soft and effeminate was not among the more common ones. :)

The pastors I grew up around were rugged, masculine men, and there were strong men in their churches.

Oh, and by the way, our keyboard players were all girls. :)

J-Roc
12-18-2007, 07:14 AM
Lol! Well, I think married men could benefit from it - especially their wives.


My curiosity is piqued. I'm gonna get me this book!! Thanks for the recommendation! :macho:macho:macho

Rachel
12-18-2007, 07:23 AM
I think I have it.. I bought both Wild at Heart & Captivating at a reduced rate .. I haven't read the Wild at Heart though.

rgcraig
12-18-2007, 07:24 AM
Sounds like a good read...

The sad thing is that our culture has been so neutered that a book like that is deemed necessary.

Where I came from, there were a lot of dysfunctions for sure, but being soft and effeminate was not among the more common ones. :)

The pastors I grew up around were rugged, masculine men, and there were strong men in their churches.

Oh, and by the way, our keyboard players were all girls. :)

We were just discussing this last week. Apparently, it's deemed problematic throughout the Christian community.

rgcraig
12-18-2007, 07:25 AM
I think I have it.. I bought both Wild at Heart & Captivating at a reduced rate .. I haven't read the Wild at Heart though.

I gave Captivating to my daughter a couple years ago - might have to get it back from her and read it too.

philjones
12-18-2007, 08:43 AM
Renda,

Get them the book (it goes in depth to reveal to men how God made them and how society has tried to remake them) and then for their anniversary give them "Every Man's Battle".. it will keep the man who is wild at heart in check and submitted to the Holy Spirit of our God! :D

rgcraig
12-18-2007, 08:46 AM
Renda,

Get them the book (it goes in depth to reveal to men how God made them and how society has tried to remake them) and then for their anniversary give them "Every Man's Battle".. it will keep the man who is wild at heart in check and submitted to the Holy Spirit of our God! :D

I saw that last night too - - great idea.

LadyChocolate
12-18-2007, 10:37 AM
I gave Captivating to my daughter a couple years ago - might have to get it back from her and read it too.

What is "Captivating"?

I, for one, want men to stand up and take their place as men again! I don't mean them waving their fists and letting you know who is boss. That's does not make a man imo. But when men, stand up and lead. Men who aren't pushed around by women! I can't stand to see a man "ruled" by a woman...but our society has managed to turn these roles around

rgcraig
12-18-2007, 10:40 AM
What is "Captivating"?

I, for one, want men to stand up and take their place as men again! I don't mean them waving their fists and letting you know who is boss. That's does not make a man imo. But when men, stand up and lead. Men who aren't pushed around by women! I can't stand to see a man "ruled" by a woman...but our society has managed to turn these roles around

Post #26 - it's for women.

LadyChocolate
12-18-2007, 10:43 AM
Sounds like it's worth reading! I will have to check it out. I could use some quality time at Barnes and Noble with a cafe mocha and a good book! Maybe I'll find it there...

rgcraig
12-18-2007, 10:47 AM
Sounds like it's worth reading! I will have to check it out. I could use some quality time at Barnes and Noble with a cafe mocha and a good book! Maybe I'll find it there...

It should be there - enjoy.

Rachel
12-18-2007, 11:05 AM
Seriously - definitely worth reading!

Elizabeth
12-18-2007, 11:20 AM
Do you all feel like this would be a good book for a non church going man? (like my brother in law for example?)

Encryptus
12-18-2007, 12:31 PM
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Wild at Heart

Product Description
Helping men rediscover their masculine heart, Wild at Heart, a guide to understanding Christian manhood and Christian men, offers a refreshing break from the chorus of voices urging men to be more responsible, reliable, dutiful ... and dead. God designed men to be dangerous, says Eldredge. Simply look at the dreams and desires written in every boy's heart: to be a hero, to be a warrior, to live a life of adventure and risk. Sadly, most men abandon those dreams and desires---aided by a Christianity that feels like nothing more than pressure to be a "nice guy." It's no wonder that many men avoid church, and those who go are often passive and bored to death. In this provocative book, Eldredge gives women a look inside the true heart of a man and gives men permission to be what God designed them to be---dangerous, passionate, alive, and free.

Has anyone read this book or listened to the CD's? I've heard it's a great book. I'd like to get it for my son and SIL to be. Any opinions?

Does this handle some of the issues we've discussed about men being too "soft" these days?

Excellent series, there is also a DVD series for Men's Group meetings

SDG
12-18-2007, 02:25 PM
I'm not ready for dating again yet, but I sure would like to know more about this concept...

And making oneself as attractive as possible doesn't hurt... ;)

Speaking of dating ....

Hawkman
12-18-2007, 05:56 PM
If I get any wilder they'll have to put me in a cage.