Smoking

[Nahum]

Is smoking a sin?

[SDG]

weed, cigars, or cancer sticks???

[Felicity]

I always liked the smell of a pipe.

My observation has been that addictions suck the spiritual life out of people, regardless of what kind they are and cigarettes are one of the worst to get rid of. Harder than liquor and other kinds of drugs.

[freeatlast]

Man, what are YOU smokin' tonight?

[LadyChocolate]

Man, what are YOU smokin' tonight?

a nice double "chateau" (sp) :heeheehee

[RevDWW]

Surely smoke'n brisket can not be a sin................. :heeheehee

[LadyChocolate]

Is smoking a sin?

Anything that has control over you ( addictions and such) would be a sin....
except for coffee, because I like it! jk

[chosenbyone]

Is smoking a sin?

I wouldn't say it was a sin. I've heard people use the argument that it is a sin because it defiles our bodies - the temple of the Lord. But, if you hold everything that we put in our bodies that is unhealthy (processed food, additives, saturated fats, pollutants, experimental drug therapies) as being sinful too, we are in BIG trouble.

[LadyChocolate]

I wouldn't say it was a sin. I've heard people use the argument that it is a sin because it defiles our bodies - the temple of the Lord. But, if you hold everything that we put in our bodies that is unhealthy (processed food, additives, saturated fats, pollutants, experimental drug therapies) as being sinful too, we are in BIG trouble.

I agree about our bodies being the temple....but with smoking comes addiction... I think Felicity said it, that it is more addicting than alcohol...and teh addiction is a big problemo

[Neck]

Is smoking a sin?

I say yes. Smoking is tasting the flames in hell.

[RevDWW]

Should smoking be preached against?

[freeatlast]

Should smoking be preached against?

Sure ..Ok ..go ahead.

Seriously, It is vile weak habit of the flesh. Al though the scripture may be non specfic on tobaco, we can do as Paul did and speak against things that are strongly looked down upon in our culture.

JMHO

[Nahum]

I say yes. Smoking is tasting the flames in hell.


Legalist! :tease

[SDG]

Legalist! :tease

Half-stepper.

[chosenbyone]

[QUOTE=LadyChocolate;33405]I agree about our bodies being the temple....but with smoking comes addiction... I think Felicity said it, that it is more addicting than alcohol...and the addiction is a big problem[/QUOTE

You're right on target, Sister LadyChocolate. Addiction in any form is ungodly. In fact they have a meeting for just about any addiction out there: Over-eaters, gamblers, shoppers you name it there's a meeting around the corner to mingle with other addicts.

I know a one stop shop and that is the church of God were all addictions must flee. Thank God for the Blood!

[Neck]

Legalist! :tease

Feels good to be on the your side for once.

:highfive

[LadyChocolate]

[QUOTE=LadyChocolate;33405]I agree about our bodies being the temple....but with smoking comes addiction... I think Felicity said it, that it is more addicting than alcohol...and the addiction is a big problem[/QUOTE

You're right on target, Sister LadyChocolate. Addiction in any form is ungodly. In fact they have a meeting for just about any addiction out there: Over-eaters, gamblers, shoppers you name it there's a meeting around the corner to mingle with other addicts.

I know a one stop shop and that is the church of God were all addictions must flee. Thank God for the Blood!

AMen preachit!

[Fonix]

Is smoking a sin?

Yes, to smell that bad is definately a sin

[LadyChocolate]

Yes, to smell that bad is definately a sin

OH come on, there is nothing like the smell of drakkar, with a touch of cigarette smoke.................My oh My!!

[Rhoni]

OH come on, there is nothing like the smell of drakkar, with a touch of cigarette smoke.................My oh My!!

I agree nothing like the smell of Drakkar...but cigarette smoke? EAKKKKKKK...:dunno

[COOPER]

Sure ..Ok ..go ahead.

Seriously, It is vile weak habit of the flesh. Al though the scripture may be non specfic on tobaco, we can do as Paul did and speak against things that are strongly looked down upon in our culture.
JMHO
:killinme

[LadyChocolate]

I agree nothing like the smell of Drakkar...but cigarette smoke? EAKKKKKKK...:dunno

oh yeah, cigarette smoke just adds to a mans cologne..................









ha ha ha NOT!!!

[Rhoni]

oh yeah, cigarette smoke just adds to a mans cologne..................









ha ha ha NOT!!!

:ty I thought you were losing there for a minute...:heeheehee

[LadyChocolate]

:ty I thought you were losing there for a minute...:heeheehee

Yeah, I forgot to put in my sarcastic smileys! :heeheehee

[LadyChocolate]

:ty I thought you were losing there for a minute...:heeheehee

I remember school days when the scent of a man's cologne would send me off to la la land! Ahh!!! But that day dream ended right after they got out of gym class!! :)

[COOPER]

I love to smoke............................

Smoked Ham
brisket
sausage
BBQ
YUM YUM!

[Rhoni]

Yeah, I forgot to put in my sarcastic smileys! :heeheehee

:highfive you mean I'm not the only one who does that?:heeheehee

[Rhoni]

I remember school days when the scent of a man's cologne would send me off to la la land! Ahh!!! But that day dream ended right after they got out of gym class!! :)


This reminds me of the guys at JCM after a game of football on roller skates under the Mississippi District Tabernacle.:heeheehee

[tbpew]

Yes, because it can not be done with agreement with everything else we understand in the scripture, that is, it can not be done in faith.

Since it is an outside chemical, being burned, to be inhaled, to accelerate its entry into our blood stream, we are adding an agent into our bodies to alter the chemical contents within our blood. It is our own will being asserted to create a pleasure response (through ingesting a chemically active agent) that contradicts sustainable wellness of the body. For a spirit-filled believer, the body is the tabernacle of God, holy, set apart. Motive is the issue that causes this activity to invite sin to "sit outside the door", if not actually, inviting sin to have its place within our life choices.

Viewed from a perspective within the natural realm:

1st witness:
The witness of our body's initial response
Our lungs reject the presence of this agent until the we do it so long that our body's own rejection system ceases to react.

2nd witness:
The pain of withdrawal.
When the chemical levels drop, the pain and anxiousness is a plain demonstration of "cause and effect".

3rd witness:
the operation embraces a total physiological experience; hands, mouth and chemistry. Two very powerful physical activities that quickly become habitual, in the process of ingesting an addictive chemical. Crude example for those of us with kids....just think about how hard it is to break a child's nose picking habit once fully explored and enjoyed!)

Smoking is certainly in the mix of things that every individual will decide for themselves. But for anyone who seeks the scriptures (led by the Spirit) for wonderful counsels, smoking would be understood as a work of the flesh; authored in the realm of carnal-mindedness.

oh, by the way....this is just me sharing my understanding:ty

[Ferd]

Should smoking be preached against?

with great passion and fervor! yes it should be preached against.

[Nahum]

Yes, because it can not be done with agreement with everything else we understand in the scripture, that is, it can not be done in faith.

Since it is an outside chemical, being burned, to be inhaled, to accelerate its entry into our blood stream, we are adding an agent into our bodies to alter the chemical contents within our blood. It is our own will being asserted to create a pleasure response (through ingesting a chemically active agent) that contradicts sustainable wellness of the body. For a spirit-filled believer, the body is the tabernacle of God, holy, set apart. Motive is the issue that causes this activity to invite sin to "sit outside the door", if not actually, inviting sin to have its place within our life choices.

Viewed from a perspective within the natural realm:

1st witness:
The witness of our body's initial response
Our lungs reject the presence of this agent until the we do it so long that our body's own rejection system ceases to react.

2nd witness:
The pain of withdrawal.
When the chemical levels drop, the pain and anxiousness is a plain demonstration of "cause and effect".

3rd witness:
the operation embraces a total physiological experience; hands, mouth and chemistry. Two very powerful physical activities that quickly become habitual, in the process of ingesting an addictive chemical. Crude example for those of us with kids....just think about how hard it is to break a child's nose picking habit once fully explored and enjoyed!)

Smoking is certainly in the mix of things that every individual will decide for themselves. But for anyone who seeks the scriptures (led by the Spirit) for wonderful counsels, smoking would be understood as a work of the flesh; authored in the realm of carnal-mindedness.

oh, by the way....this is just me sharing my understanding:ty

Sooooo, are you gonna tell me who you are, Mr New Poster?

I'm enjoying your posts immensely. :ty

[Digging4Truth]

Hey TBP....

I didn't know you were posting in this thread or I would have been keeping up with it.

Great posts as always...

Well thought out... balanced... and worthy of being put in a syllabus somewhere.

Yep... That's TBP. :)

Stop by my forum again when you get a chance. I bumped a thread you may have missed... if notl... no biggie... but it had been there a while when you stopped by the other day. So I bumped it... just in case.

Now I am serious when I say this bro.... You should write small bible study booklets on various subjects. Smoking, drinking, Are The Vessels God (:) ) Dude I would SO be your best customer.

[tbpew]

Sooooo, are you gonna tell me who you are, Mr New Poster?

I'm enjoying your posts immensely. :ty

Pastor Poster,

Thank you for the kind words.

I am a little "freakish" about trying to maintain virtual anonymity.
I really, really, really would like what we write to be a discussion of ideas, viewpoints and understandings rather than persons.

I engage topics that some might consider heretical and some might even say, cause division. I can not disagree with this interpretation possibly being true since (by way of example) if someone says "God has appointed sub-heads among members of his body that has ONE head, and I do not think that he has, my words are introducing thoughts that separate from the words of those that believe differently.

All this ends up being a great chance for people to want to decide if they agree with me or not with me, rather than considering whether they agree with my comments or, disagree with my comments.

Forum boards do not possess enough "genuine-ness" to be overly specific about my private person.

The cool thing is that I believe it is pretty safe to say..."from the abundance of the heart, the fingers type!

BTW, I am very appreciative of those who may know me, understanding and granting me the opportunity to have a certain degree of anonymity.


If someone felt they had to expose my "real-life " identity, I would want to understand what their motive was in doing so.

[tbpew]

Hey TBP....

I didn't know you were posting in this thread or I would have been keeping up with it.

Great posts as always...

Well thought out... balanced... and worthy of being put in a syllabus somewhere.

Yep... That's TBP. :)

Stop by my forum again when you get a chance. I bumped a thread you may have missed... if notl... no biggie... but it had been there a while when you stopped by the other day. So I bumped it... just in case.

Now I am serious when I say this bro.... You should write small bible study booklets on various subjects. Smoking, drinking, Are The Vessels God (:) ) Dude I would SO be your best customer.

wow. Thank you for the very kind acknowledgement.

But when it comes to discussion boards and presenting ideas with carefulness and respect of others, you have been a model for me. I have often been encouraged by your style of gentle and thoughtful engagement.

I have shared with my wife my appreciation that God has allowed me to meet you through the medium of online forum boards. She read some of your posts on your board and immediately sensed what I was talking about.

I love you man (that is about as gooshy as I get)

[Whole Hearted]

Those who don't preach against TV, immodest dress, women in pants, make-up, sports, etc, WHY preach against cigarettes?

[Digging4Truth]

wow. Thank you for the very kind acknowledgement.

But when it comes to discussion boards and presenting ideas with carefulness and respect of others, you have been a model for me. I have often been encouraged by your style of gentle and thoughtful engagement.

I have shared with my wife my appreciation that God has allowed me to meet you through the medium of online forum boards. She read some of your posts on your board and immediately sensed what I was talking about.

I love you man (that is about as gooshy as I get)

Perhaps we will meet some day...

Then we might get in an arguement and have a free for all beat down right in the middle of a restaurant. :) NOT!!!!!!!!!!

:)

[Digging4Truth]

Those who don't preach against TV, immodest dress, women in pants, make-up, sports, etc, WHY preach against cigarettes?

Who would NOT preach against immodest dress.

The other things you listed are things. Immodest dress is a concept.

[tbpew]

Those who don't preach against TV, immodest dress, women in pants, make-up, sports, etc, WHY preach against cigarettes?

I probably can not satisfactorily reply to your post because "preaching against" probably means something very specific to you that may be hidden from me. Here is my attempt...

Preaching that edifies by sharing understanding "light" needs to be received as "light" by the hearer. If choices are going to be made subsequent to the "preaching", they are fully made in the heart of the hearer.

IMO preaching is not a vehicle to establish prohibitions; rules and manners for dress and conduct, but rather an avenue for the gifting God has provided to his body to have an occassion to be manifested in various hearer's ears.

So, if preaching is received or purposed as addressing specifics, it is very very limited in its ability to bless the hearer. If preaching is a source of light, the hearer can move through whatever circumstances they encounter with the added safety provided by a gifting of God at work within his body.

Cigarettes are a specific that can be used for an example of principles demonstrated in scripture.

BTW, I fully agree that IF preaching's ordained purpose is to DELIVER SPECIFIC do's and don'ts (fence construction) among spirit-filled children of God, your question would have to be answered by those who operate in a pretty overt inconsistency.

but contrast...
If preaching is to lead the hearer into considering the principles and motives behind the actions that manifest in our lives, cigarettes just become a commonly understood, visible effect, of something that has its origins within the invisible.

[freeatlast]

I probably can not satisfactorily reply to your post because "preaching against" probably means something very specific to you that may be hidden from me. Here is my attempt...

Preaching that edifies by sharing understanding "light" needs to be received as "light" by the hearer. If choices are going to be made subsequent to the "preaching", they are fully made in the heart of the hearer.

IMO preaching is not a vehicle to establish prohibitions; rules and manners for dress and conduct, but rather an avenue for the gifting God has provided to his body to have an occassion to be manifested in various hearer's ears.

So, if preaching is received or purposed as addressing specifics, it is very very limited in its ability to bless the hearer. If preaching is a source of light, the hearer can move through whatever circumstances they encounter with the added safety provided by a gifting of God at work within his body.

Cigarettes are a specific that can be used for an example of principles demonstrated in scripture.

BTW, I fully agree that IF preaching's ordained purpose is to DELIVER SPECIFIC do's and don'ts (fence construction) among spirit-filled children of God, your question would have to be answered by those who operate in a pretty overt inconsistency.

but contrast...
If preaching is to lead the hearer into considering the principles and motives behind the actions that manifest in our lives, cigarettes just become a commonly understood, visible effect, of something that has its origins within the invisible.

Ok tbPew....let me also add my welcome to you, to this forum.

Your wisdom and insight are a refreshing and needed ingredient's to this forum continuing to grow and becoming an even more interesting place.

[tbpew]

Ok tbPew....let me also add my welcome to you, to this forum.

thanks for your greeting.

I am not sure that I am built for the standard pace of things here (contrary to my lapse into 'chat-yak' demonstrated last night on two threads --it was enjoyable!).

Just a question; did you have the same screenname on FCF (or maybe GNC)? If not, please know I'm not wanting to probe, but I am curious. Back on FCF I vaguely remember a style (and SN?) that seems reminiscent of yours.

[freeatlast]

thanks for your greeting.

I am not sure that I am built for the standard pace of things here (contrary to my lapse into 'chat-yak' demonstrated last night on two threads --it was enjoyable!).

Just a question; did you have the same screenname on FCF (or maybe GNC)? If not, please know I'm not wanting to probe, but I am curious. Back on FCF I vaguely remember a style (and SN?) that seems reminiscent of yours.

Yes, I am Freeatlast..every where I go. At GNC OlD FCF and nFCF

My style is terrible sprinkled with humor.

I'm pretty smart..and humble too. I just can't type very good :killinme

[Felicity]

I am not sure that I am built for the standard pace of things here There are no height or weight restrictions that I'm aware of. And judging by some of the avs looks are no consideration either. :killinme

;) :D

[Chan]

Is smoking a sin?
I believe it's one of those Romans 14 issues, i.e. something the Bible does not specifically identify as sin. I am aware of the argument some people make about it being a sin because the body is the temple of the Holy Ghost but if you apply that argument to tobacco then you must also apply it to such things as caffeine and trans fats.

[Chan]

Sure ..Ok ..go ahead.

Seriously, It is vile weak habit of the flesh. Al though the scripture may be non specfic on tobaco, we can do as Paul did and speak against things that are strongly looked down upon in our culture.

JMHOFirst of all, America is not OUR culture, Heaven is! Second, show me where Paul spoke against things that were strongly looked down upon in the culture of the day. Third, Christians are strongly looked down upon in American culture: shall we preach against ourselves?

[LadyChocolate]

First of all, America is not OUR culture, Heaven is! Second, show me where Paul spoke against things that were strongly looked down upon in the culture of the day. Third, Christians are strongly looked down upon in American culture: shall we preach against ourselves?

well, i think we should....then we wouldn't be so dandiddly proud of ourselves!!!:heeheehee

[ForeverBlessed]

OH come on, there is nothing like the smell of drakkar, with a touch of cigarette smoke.................My oh My!!

Not if you had a husband who wore that and was backslidden bound by smoking... nah, not a good smell together.. broke my heart.

[ForeverBlessed]

Yeah, I forgot to put in my sarcastic smileys! :heeheehee

that would have been helpful... :heeheehee

[Fonix]

I love to smoke............................

Smoked Ham
brisket
sausage
BBQ
YUM YUM!

say, Ill come over and have a smoke with ya LOL:highfive

[freeatlast]

First of all, America is not OUR culture, Heaven is! Second, show me where Paul spoke against things that were strongly looked down upon in the culture of the day. Third, Christians are strongly looked down upon in American culture: shall we preach against ourselves?

Wow..are you a smoker Chan?

America is my culture..I was raised here and i live here , not heaven.

As for Paul making a decision about something that were looked down in his day. Let's go with 1 Cor 11 and the issue of veils. That was cultural issue of his day.

As for preaching against ourselves because we are looked down upon.

I can't even imagine how you come up with that has a comparison.

[Neck]

Wow..are you a smoker Chan?

America is my culture..I was raised here and i live here , not heaven.

As for Paul making a decision about something that were looked down in his day. Let's go with 1 Cor 11 and the issue of veils. That was cultural issue of his day.

As for preaching against ourselves because we are looked down upon.

I can't even imagine how you come up with that has a comparison.

Smoking is like Steriods. You can call them or not call them wrong or a sin. When you die at 50 and have tubes sticking out of your mouth and nose.

You will know that the 2 pack a day habit might not have been a good thing.

Also smokers need to ak themselves do I want my own kids to smoke?

[Jekyll]

Can't be worse than addiction to caffeine, addiction to buffets, addiction to video games...

But really, when smoking was really a social stigma was when it was originally preached against, along with bowling alleys, skating rinks, pool halls, theaters...where the wrong crowd would hang out...

Now that we know how harmful and addictive it actually is to the body, it is even more confirmed of being a sin

[commonsense]

Can't be worse than addiction to caffeine, addiction to buffets, addiction to video games...

But really, when smoking was really a social stigma was when it was originally preached against, along with bowling alleys, skating rinks, pool halls, theaters...where the wrong crowd would hang out...

Now that we know how harmful and addictive it actually is to the body, it is even more confirmed of being a sin

Good point! As a child, my parents were the only ones that didn't smoke. Face the facts, in the 50's, smoking was not taboo. I do recall hearing sermons against smoking. And I remember asking my dad why people couldn't go bowling....the smoky atmosphere;
As for skating rinks, sorry, but I did quite a bit of ice skating and some roller skating,___________________________ in our northern city....it was "legal"!!!:bliss

[berkeley]

___________________________ in our northern city....it was "legal"!!!:blissis it still legal?

[BrotherEastman]

To answer this question (however late I may be) on whether smoking is a sin, one must answer a question to him/herself , am I getting anything good from this? The problem with smoking is that no one gets anything from it that is beneficial. On the contrary, smoking has been proven unhealthy (I know, everyone knows this). There is an argument that people like to use, well there are alot of foods that are bad for you, but you see the problem with this argument is that there are at least some "good" benefits from food that some would say is bad for you. At least you get some nutritional value out of cake and ice cream and even soda pop (if nothing else, at least the sugar) Whereas you get absolutely nothing of nutritional value from smoking a cigarette. Oh well, thats my two pennies for the day.

[SDG]

To answer this question (however late I may be) on whether smoking is a sin, one must answer a question to him/herself , am I getting anything good from this? The problem with smoking is that no one gets anything from it that is beneficial. On the contrary, smoking has been proven unhealthy (I know, everyone knows this). There is an argument that people like to use, well there are alot of foods that are bad for you, but you see the problem with this argument is that there are at least some "good" benefits from food that some would say is bad for you. At least you get some nutritional value out of cake and ice cream and even soda pop (if nothing else, at least the sugar) Whereas you get absolutely nothing of nutritional value from smoking a cigarette. Oh well, thats my two pennies for the day.

Can the beer drinker than use this to say there is some nutritional value in a chugging down a can of Bud????

[freeatlast]

Can the beer drinker than use this to say there is some nutritional value in a chugging down a can of Bud????

No need to use that argument Dan.

Un like Tobacco, the bible is clear that alcohol, in some form or amount was consumed by Christians and the peolpe of our Hebraic predacessors.

Drunkeness was frowned on, but the everyday use of wine, in moderation was not condemned.

The Corinthians consumed a bit to much "communion wine" as we see in 1 cor 11 that they became "drunken" on it.

They were rebuked not for their drunkenness, but rather for theri selfish attitude.

Not only wine, but other fermented, or strong drink were a part of the everyday culture of the Hebrew child of God in the OT. (Deut.14:26 is one example)

Just like food. the good Jew knew that the drinking of such, was to be in moderation. JUST LIKE FOOD, we should know when to stop, that we commmit not the sin of gluttony.

[StillStanding]

No need to use that argument Dan.

Un like Tobacco, the bible is clear that alcohol, in some form or amount was consumed by Christians and the peolpe of our Hebraic predacessors.

Drunkeness was frowned on, but the everyday use of wine, in moderation was not condemned.

The Corinthians consumed a bit to much "communion wine" as we see in 1 cor 11 that they became "drunken" on it.

They were rebuked not for their drunkenness, but rather for theri selfish attitude.

Not only wine, but other fermented, or strong drink were a part of the everyday culture of the Hebrew child of God in the OT. (Deut.14:26 is one example)

Just like food. the good Jew knew that the drinking of such, was to be in moderation. JUST LIKE FOOD, we should know when to stop, that we commmit not the sin of gluttony.
When you say "Budweiser", you've said it all!

[freeatlast]

When you say "Budweiser", you've said it all!


On the rare occasion that I might enjoy a beverage..make mine a Miller...or maybe a Leinengugals.
:heeheehee

[SoCaliUPC]

I would say yes.

[Rhymis]

i see the sin level is getting smaller all the time

[BrotherEastman]

Can the beer drinker than use this to say there is some nutritional value in a chugging down a can of Bud????
NOW Danny, don't go there.

[Barb]

thanks for your greeting.

I am not sure that I am built for the standard pace of things here (contrary to my lapse into 'chat-yak' demonstrated last night on two threads --it was enjoyable!).

Just a question; did you have the same screenname on FCF (or maybe GNC)? If not, please know I'm not wanting to probe, but I am curious. Back on FCF I vaguely remember a style (and SN?) that seems reminiscent of yours.

Likewise...

[Chan]

Wow..are you a smoker Chan?

America is my culture..I was raised here and i live here , not heaven.

As for Paul making a decision about something that were looked down in his day. Let's go with 1 Cor 11 and the issue of veils. That was cultural issue of his day.

As for preaching against ourselves because we are looked down upon.

I can't even imagine how you come up with that has a comparison.
You said, "Paul did and speak against things that are strongly looked down upon in our culture." Where does the Bible say that Paul "did and speak" against things that are looked down upon in OUR (by which you treasonously mean American) culture? Christians are looked down upon in American culture. Since you claim Paul "did and speak" against things that are looked down upon in American culture, you are saying Paul "did and speak" against Christians.

Did Paul do and speak against veils in 1 Corinthians 11? Were veils looked down upon in Corinthian culture? (Though you said "our" culture; so, replace "Corinthian" with "American").

Jesus said that we are not OF this world. Therefore, America is not your culture. It is treason against the kingdom of God (which IS the Christian's culture) to claim another culture as your own.

[Chan]

well, i think we should....then we wouldn't be so dandiddly proud of ourselves!!!:heeheeheeIs there an accusation in that post somewhere? I don't find your comments the least bit funny and these kinds of personal attacks are entirely inappropriate!

[Chan]

To answer this question (however late I may be) on whether smoking is a sin, one must answer a question to him/herself , am I getting anything good from this? The problem with smoking is that no one gets anything from it that is beneficial. On the contrary, smoking has been proven unhealthy (I know, everyone knows this). There is an argument that people like to use, well there are alot of foods that are bad for you, but you see the problem with this argument is that there are at least some "good" benefits from food that some would say is bad for you. At least you get some nutritional value out of cake and ice cream and even soda pop (if nothing else, at least the sugar) Whereas you get absolutely nothing of nutritional value from smoking a cigarette. Oh well, thats my two pennies for the day.As I said earlier, I believe it's one of those Romans 14 issues, i.e. something the Bible does not specifically identify as sin. I am aware of the argument some people make about it being a sin because the body is the temple of the Holy Ghost but if you apply that argument to tobacco then you must also apply it to such things as caffeine and trans fats.

By the way, caffeine and trans fats have no nutritional value.

[Praxeas]

weed, cigars, or cancer sticks???
Why aren't cigars cancer sticks too?

[Praxeas]

You all will have to answer yourself....Note the part in bold
1Co 6:8 But you yourselves wrong and cheat, and you do this to your brothers and sisters!
1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals,
1Co 6:10 thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 Some of you once lived this way. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
1Co 6:12 "All things are lawful for me" — but not everything is beneficial. "All things are lawful for me" — but I will not be controlled by anything.
1Co 6:13 "Food is for the stomach and the stomach is for food, but God will do away with both." The body is not for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.
1Co 6:14 Now God indeed raised the Lord and he will raise us by his power.
1Co 6:15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Should I take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never!
1Co 6:16 Or do you not know that anyone who is united with a prostitute is one body with her? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."
1Co 6:17 But the one united with the Lord is one spirit with him.
1Co 6:18 Flee sexual immorality! "Every sin a person commits is outside of the body" — but the immoral person sins against his own body.
1Co 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
1Co 6:20 For you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.

[Chan]

Can't be worse than addiction to caffeine, addiction to buffets, addiction to video games...

But really, when smoking was really a social stigma was when it was originally preached against, along with bowling alleys, skating rinks, pool halls, theaters...where the wrong crowd would hang out...

Now that we know how harmful and addictive it actually is to the body, it is even more confirmed of being a sin
If the Bible doesn't call something sin - either directly or by principle - we have no right to call something sin. If we apply your argument about it being harmful and addictive (a valid argument), then we must apply it to caffeine (addictive and, according to some, harmful) and trans fats (harmful).

Is caffeine harmful?
Physiological effects of caffeine can be seen in adults at doses of only 100-200 mg. This is readily achieved with 1-3 cups of coffee. On a body weight basis children, aged 1-5 years, are the heaviest consumers of caffeine. A child consuming one can of caffeinated soda receives a caffeine equivalent of 4 cups of coffee for an adult.
Caffeine is readily absorbed by the body, with blood levels peaking about 30 minutes after ingestion. The clearance rate from the blood varies from several hours in an adult to several days in a newborn. The clearance rate is decreased by pregnancy and use of oral contraceptives. Smoking, on the other hand, appears to increase the rate at which caffeine is cleared from the body. Hence, caffeine intake should be greatly reduced or eliminated by persons trying to quit smoking, so as to prevent increased caffeine levels in the blood and the possible increased craving for nicotine.

Caffeine can produce many effects including:
elevated blood sugar (gives the feeling of an energy surge)
elevated blood fats
increased blood pressure
stimulated central nervous system (may cause one to override the body's call for rest)
irregular heart beat
increased urinary calcium and magnesium losses (may impact on long-term bone health)
increased stomach acid secretion (aggravates a stomach ulcer)
tremors, irritability, and nervousness
insomnia and disruption of sleep patterns
anxiety and depression
heightened symptoms of premenstrual syndrome (PMS)

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1Co 6:12 "All things are lawful for me" — but not everything is beneficial. "All things are lawful for me" — but I will not be controlled by anything.

1Co 6:20 For you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.
This is important! Which is why when people preach against smoking cigarettes they need to also preach about other addictive substances like caffeine. How many people who vociferously attack smoking are quick to get that first cup of coffee in the morning or (in churches that do this) go get that cup of coffee in the fellowship hall after church?