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COOPER
03-09-2007, 07:20 AM
I am trying out for the Bass guitar at Believers Way Church.
I heard the band last night and those guys are very good.
I am to return and try out next Thursday.
The Church pays their musicians and singers.
A bassist gets $50.00 a service.
Pretty Cool!

deltaguitar
03-09-2007, 07:23 AM
Sounds pretty cool. How often are practices?

COOPER
03-09-2007, 07:26 AM
Sounds pretty cool. How often are practices?

Looks like once on Thursday and then one hour before church service.

Revelationist
03-09-2007, 07:59 AM
Bro. Cooper, if we could I'd pay you to play... but... no one get's paid at our church right now... I don't even get paid.... : )

jerry Moon

COOPER
03-09-2007, 08:22 AM
Bro. Cooper, if we could I'd pay you to play... but... no one get's paid at our church right now... I don't even get paid.... : )

jerry Moon
I know bro, you are a hard working man with a Full time job plus Pastoring.

COOPER
03-09-2007, 08:27 AM
This Pastor came from Kenneth Copeland Ministries.
Statement of Faith


We believe in one God-Father, Son and Holy Spirit, Creator of all things.



We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, was conceived of the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, was crucified, died, was buried, was resurrected, ascended into heaven, and is now seated at the right hand of God the Father and is true God and true man.



We believe the Bible in its entirety to be the inspired Word of God and the infallible rule of faith and conduct.



We believe in the resurrection of the dead, the eternal happiness of the saved, and the eternal punishment of the lost.



We believe in personal salvation of believers through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.



We believe in sanctification through the Word of God and by the Holy Spirit, and we believe in personal holiness, purity of heart and life.



We believe in divine healing, through faith in the Name of Jesus Christ, and that healing is included in the Redemption.



We believe in water baptism, in the Baptism in the Holy Spirit as distinct from the New Birth, in speaking with tongues as the Spirit of God gives utterance (Acts 2:4), in the gifts of the Spirit, and the evidence of the fruit of the Spirit. We believe that all of these are available to believers.



We believe in the Christian's hope-the soon-coming, personal return of the Lord Jesus Christ.

freeatlast
03-09-2007, 08:48 AM
Glad for ya Coop.

BHILL
03-09-2007, 09:28 AM
Alot of the larger "charamatic" churches pay their musicians and sometimes the musicians may not be in church that well (spiritually).It seems like they treat the music department like a business.I was talking to Mark Carouthers last month and they have been paying their musicians since they started the church.It's just important to the Pastor to have good music.I wish the UPC churches would pay their musicians.

COOPER
03-09-2007, 09:43 AM
Alot of the larger "charamatic" churches pay their musicians and sometimes the musicians may not be in church that well (spiritually).It seems like they treat the music department like a business.I was talking to Mark Carouthers last month and they have been paying their musicians since they started the church.It's just important to the Pastor to have good music.I wish the UPC churches would pay their musicians.


:rockband

The Mrs
03-09-2007, 10:50 AM
What an awesome opportunity Coop!!! :yahoo

I'm so happy for you! Hope this will work out for you! :bliss

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l76/_TheMrs_/Smileys/guitarist.gif

seguidordejesus
03-09-2007, 11:34 AM
Is this the charismatic church in town?

BoredOutOfMyMind
03-09-2007, 11:37 AM
Is this the charismatic church in town?

Is this needing an answer since he posted the beliefs?

I hope he can laugh, bark and play all at once.

Neck
03-09-2007, 11:44 AM
Bro. Cooper, if we could I'd pay you to play... but... no one get's paid at our church right now... I don't even get paid.... : )

jerry Moon

Ever think about moving on?

BoredOutOfMyMind
03-09-2007, 11:46 AM
Ever think about moving on?

Do you even know how this sounds?

Neck
03-09-2007, 11:52 AM
Do you even know how this sounds?


It was just a rhetorical question? If he has and God desired he stay, then he is in the will of God....

Praxeas
03-09-2007, 12:21 PM
I hope he came OUT of what Kenneth Copeland was into. Otherwise I would not go there.

seguidordejesus
03-09-2007, 01:05 PM
Is this needing an answer since he posted the beliefs?

I hope he can laugh, bark and play all at once.

Sorry, Paco, I didn't see his post. :killinme

That was not intended to be racista.

It was a joke.

If you knew where I worked, you'd know why that name comes out so easily :)

Thumper
03-09-2007, 01:10 PM
I'd hold out for more Money coop

Coonskinner
03-09-2007, 01:15 PM
I'd hold out for more Money coop

Me too.

If I was going to sell my soul for money, I would want more than that.

Thumper
03-09-2007, 01:32 PM
Me too.

If I was going to sell my soul for money, I would want more than that.

That was my thinking also elder.

If I'm gonna go to hell I want to go in a very expensive casket.

:)

COOPER
03-09-2007, 02:22 PM
Me too.

If I was going to sell my soul for money, I would want more than that.

Speak for your self bro., Speak for ya sef.

Papabear
03-09-2007, 02:30 PM
Seems like ... there is a story in the Bible where a man sold his gift to Balaak. Selling our worship, our service, our investment ... for a price.

nothing wrong with being blessed for ministry....

But in our area, the local Baptist/Charasmatic wannabe churches... they hire muscians with no expectation for morality. Can you play the drums? They pay about $150 a service to muscians ... singers usually volunteer.

Most have sold out along time ago for something else....anyway... and the money is just icing.

Birthright and blessings for a pottage of bitterness, bread of compromise.

Don't know you coop. But if this seemed to be a logical option... I suppose we all have our baggage...

My prayer, "Lord help me not to reach that point where nothing matters."

COOPER
03-09-2007, 02:38 PM
Seems like ... there is a story in the Bible where a man sold his gift to Balaak. Selling our worship, our service, our investment ... for a price.nothing wrong with being blessed for ministry....

But in our area, the local Baptist/Charasmatic wannabe churches... they hire muscians with no expectation for morality. Can you play the drums? They pay about $150 a service to muscians ... singers usually volunteer.

Most have sold out along time ago for something else....anyway... and the money is just icing.

Birthright and blessings for a pottage of bitterness, bread of compromise.

Don't know you coop. But if this seemed to be a logical option... I suppose we all have our baggage...

My prayer, "Lord help me not to reach that point where nothing matters."

Oh, thats the upc talk'n silly rabbit.:beatdeadhorse
And what is OUR worship mean anyway?

Papabear
03-09-2007, 04:51 PM
Oh...

and is that somehow a response? That is fine. We will each be judged and I am going to do get myself there. Hope we all can make it.

Praxeas
03-09-2007, 06:46 PM
I hope he came OUT of what Kenneth Copeland was into. Otherwise I would not go there.
Bump for Jcoop

COOPER
03-10-2007, 08:38 AM
Bump for Jcoop
:ty Please tell what in the world Kenneth Copeland got into.:ty

COOPER
03-10-2007, 08:43 AM
This was taken from the believersway web sight.
If they are freaks let me know Prax.
I will not get caught up in another upc type.


Pastor Scott & Missy Johnson
In 1999, Scott Johnson, along with his wife, Missy, and three sons, Zachary, Gabriel and Quenten, began BelieversWay Church in Amarillo, Texas. Their vision was to bring the hope of the gospel to West Texas and to teach believers how to find God is specific path for their individual lives.
Prior to beginning their own ministry in Amarillo, Scott and Missy worked for Kenneth Copeland Ministries for more than 20 years. Scott was the Director of Television from 1993-1999. As the television director, Scott did more than produce the Believer's Voice of Victory television programs and KCM's children's movies. He fulfilled one more important segment in the call of God on his life.

Born and raised in the Southwest, Scott was born again and filled with the Holy Spirit by the age of 6. Growing up as the son of a pastor, Scott faithfully used his talents for the Lord. By the age of 13, he was singing every time the church doors were open.

When Scott was a teenager he began to realize the call of God on his life. While attending a Kenneth Copeland Ministries meeting, God began to reveal to him what his life's journey would be in a life of ministry.

In 1979, Scott attended Rhema Bible Training Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma. During this time God directed him to move to Fort Worth, Texas. In a few weeks Scott was on staff at KCM, duplicating Brother Copeland's radio tapes. From singing in Believers' Conventions, to producing his own album, to overseeing the television department, he has continually sought God's will for his life, and obeyed the directives he heard.

When Missy Johnson was 11, she made Jesus the Lord of her life and was filled with the Holy Spirit at a Kenneth Copeland meeting in Fort Worth. What started with a decision to serve God became a lifelong passion.

Missy has a great love for God's people and desires every believer to come up, come out and come over to God's way of life. She longs for people to see God's wisdom and have His blessings overtake them.

This passion was ignited when she was only 13, when she went to work for Kenneth Copeland Ministries. As Gloria's youngest sister, Missy started out with the simplest of jobs, and faithfully served for 20 years. Her last position was as the Marketing and Publications Director, overseeing the production of the monthly magazines, new product development and purchasing all airtime for the Believer's Voice of Victory international television broadcast.

Scott and Missy married in 1984, and together they faithfully served the Copelands, knowing for years the day would come when they would step out into ministry together.

Today, Scott and Missy pastor a growing congregation of believers who hunger for all that God has provided through His covenant. Each day, through CDs, books and personal ministry, they empower individuals to succeed in God's plan for their lives. It's a life they love, a life of purpose and destiny. It is the BelieversWay.

deadeye
03-10-2007, 09:21 AM
You Go, Coop!!!

This seems like just the type of stuff that you would fit right in to.

Brett Prince
03-10-2007, 09:31 AM
Coop,

I understand where you are at. But, I just don't think I could go to a church where they didn't baptise in Jesus Name, and there was not a HEAVY emphasis on receiving the Holy Ghost with tongues. Sorry. I'm not trying to play the UPC tape, if you know what I mean, but if I were to jump headfirst onto a modern-day PCI bandwagon, I still couldn't do this.

rrford
03-10-2007, 09:36 AM
Pay the musicians? Uhm, okay.

And then let's not forget the Sunday School teachers, the ushers, the greeters, the folks who do outreach, the locals who clean the church and cut the grass, the praise singers (who, actually are more valuable than the musicians if you think about it.) etc. etc.

COOPER
03-10-2007, 10:52 AM
Pay the musicians? Uhm, okay.

And then let's not forget the Sunday School teachers, the ushers, the greeters, the folks who do outreach, the locals who clean the church and cut the grass, the praise singers (who, actually are more valuable than the musicians if you think about it.) etc. etc.

:dunno

freeatlast
03-10-2007, 11:26 AM
Pay the musicians? Uhm, okay.

And then let's not forget the Sunday School teachers, the ushers, the greeters, the folks who do outreach, the locals who clean the church and cut the grass, the praise singers (who, actually are more valuable than the musicians if you think about it.) etc. etc.

Yeah...let's not be doning anything with them tithes...they go in the preachers pocket's..no one else's...it's in da bible :heeheehee

Da preacher be the only one worthy of his hire...the rest the Saint's



Well ....they are just good for $nothing. The preacher..you gotsta pay him to be good :killinme

Praxeas
03-10-2007, 12:46 PM
:ty Please tell what in the world Kenneth Copeland got into.:ty
Kenneth Copeland claims he is a little GEE OH DEE....Yep KC says he is god. He says you are god. He preaches word faith.....he taught that Adam was the one that gave life to the animals, not God..I heard him myself on TBN.

Do a search and check this stuff out for yourself

Praxeas
03-10-2007, 12:50 PM
Coop, are you going there just because they will pay you? I mean of all the Trinitarian churches, why this one?

Revelationist
03-10-2007, 12:53 PM
Pay the musicians? Uhm, okay.

And then let's not forget the Sunday School teachers, the ushers, the greeters, the folks who do outreach, the locals who clean the church and cut the grass, the praise singers (who, actually are more valuable than the musicians if you think about it.) etc. etc.

David paid the muscians to sing and play 24 hour a day 7 days a week.

Revelationist
03-10-2007, 12:54 PM
Ever think about moving on?

Why would I want to move on?

COOPER
03-10-2007, 12:56 PM
Coop, are you going there just because they will pay you? I mean of all the Trinitarian churches, why this one?
I had no Idea that they were from the K.C.M. until yesterday when I checked the website.
And I answered a posted ad at a local guitar store that said earn some income for your talents.
I noticed it was a church in town, so I called.
What is the big deal?:dunno
I would be an employee of the church not a member.
Beats playing at a bar for a rock band.:heeheehee

COOPER
03-10-2007, 12:57 PM
David paid the musicians to sing and play 24 hour a day 7 days a week.
You would think musicians are third rate humans by the attitudes of some.
They want you to play, sing, worship, lead song service etc........
But you ain't worth a dirty Dime.

Revelationist
03-10-2007, 12:58 PM
It was just a rhetorical question? If he has and God desired he stay, then he is in the will of God....

We've went from nothing to a 12,000 Sq ft building and a nice 4,000 sq ft parsonage with 3,000 sq ft of garage because we all volinteer our time.... had record atendance of 89 people. God told me to start the church and it's doing well.. it's not about the money. One soul is worth it all... we're fixing to do our third baptism this year... It's not about the money, it's all about the souls...

Praxeas
03-10-2007, 01:06 PM
David paid the muscians to sing and play 24 hour a day 7 days a week.
All the levites were paid too right? Who cleaned the temple? Who fought David's wars? Were they paid? Who built the temple? Did they get paid? Who kept the candles lit? Who made the Shewbread? Did any of them get paid? If we are all a kingdom of priests, why should only musicians be paid for their work?

Praxeas
03-10-2007, 01:07 PM
I had no Idea that they were from the K.C.M. until yesterday when I checked the website.
And I answered a posted ad at a local guitar store that said earn some income for your talents.
I noticed it was a church in town, so I called.
What is the big deal?:dunno
I would be an employee of the church not a member.
Beats playing at a bar for a rock band.:heeheehee
Seriously? This is just a gig? You don't have to be a member?

COOPER
03-10-2007, 01:16 PM
Seriously? This is just a gig? You don't have to be a member?

Exactly! I was going to work on Saturday and Sunday at an Auto parts store.
Then this came up.
Hey, I get to play,get payed and plus be in church.
About the same money for less time and fun!
Wow!
It's not rocket science.

Revelationist
03-10-2007, 02:24 PM
All the levites were paid too right? Who cleaned the temple? Who fought David's wars? Were they paid? Who built the temple? Did they get paid? Who kept the candles lit? Who made the Shewbread? Did any of them get paid? If we are all a kingdom of priests, why should only musicians be paid for their work?

I don't see a problem with all positions being paid... our church can't aford for all to get paid, so we all work for the same pay. I may not get any cash, but I'm laying up my treasures in heaven.

Praxeas
03-10-2007, 02:39 PM
I don't see a problem with all positions being paid... our church can't aford for all to get paid, so we all work for the same pay. I may not get any cash, but I'm laying up my treasures in heaven.
Ok...well the thing is given the post you responded to and given your reply it seemed you were justifying ONLY paying the musicians. I guess something got lost in the translation hehe, sorry :-)

Revelationist
03-10-2007, 03:14 PM
Ok...well the thing is given the post you responded to and given your reply it seemed you were justifying ONLY paying the musicians. I guess something got lost in the translation hehe, sorry :-)

Luke 10:7
7 And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
KJV

I believe that the scripture that pastors quote says that the LABOURER is worthy... Is the Sunday School teacher a labourer? Biblically, you pay one, you pay all.... They all have loads of time invested in what they do.

berkeley
03-10-2007, 03:57 PM
here's a thought, instead of paying everyone that does something for the church, just let people keep the tithes!! ohh.. naw,, that won't work, the pastor would have to get a job!!:tease

Praxeas
03-10-2007, 04:16 PM
here's a thought, instead of paying everyone that does something for the church, just let people keep the tithes!! ohh.. naw,, that won't work, the pastor would have to get a job!!:tease
I think the early church was MORE of a community than we are today...churchs back then did not compete with each other for members. They were all one body and they had meetings from house to house. Numbers or size was not an issue. They did not need to raise money for buildings. They did not need to spend money on anything other than missionary duties and helping the poor.

For all the talk about being Apostolic....or for all Christianity claiming to be "the church"...in my opinion we really are still quite far away from the original way it was done. It was a good start to go the Acts 2:38 route, but I think we stopped there and proclaimed "Were Apostolic!" when we should have continued on.

The church, in each city, was one community of believers probably under one bishop and each "house church" was under elders. The "mega church" was really the sum total of all house churches put together

Scott Hutchinson
03-10-2007, 08:21 PM
COOP put some flatwound strings on a Fender Precision and use a felt uke and truth up the bass knob on the amp.Play it really deep.

ThePastorsCoach
03-11-2007, 04:33 AM
COOP - Good for you - GO to Church - Play your Bass - Worship God and get your check - Return your tithe to the Lord and Praise His Name!
Go for it and God bless you!!

COOPER
03-11-2007, 12:41 PM
COOP - Good for you - GO to Church - Play your Bass - Worship God and get your check - Return your tithe to the Lord and Praise His Name!
Go for it and God bless you!!
Thanks Bishop, made my day.

Beard
03-11-2007, 12:44 PM
Praxeas
Quote:
Originally Posted by Berkeley View Post
here's a thought, instead of paying everyone that does something for the church, just let people keep the tithes!! ohh.. naw,, that won't work, the pastor would have to get a job!!
I think the early church was MORE of a community than we are today...churchs back then did not compete with each other for members. They were all one body and they had meetings from house to house. Numbers or size was not an issue. They did not need to raise money for buildings. They did not need to spend money on anything other than missionary duties and helping the poor.

For all the talk about being Apostolic....or for all Christianity claiming to be "the church"...in my opinion we really are still quite far away from the original way it was done. It was a good start to go the Acts 2:38 route, but I think we stopped there and proclaimed "Were Apostolic!" when we should have continued on.

The church, in each city, was one community of believers probably under one bishop and each "house church" was under elders. The "mega church" was really the sum total of all house churches put together

amen Praxeas
If we want the Book of Acts results, we have to do the same. Those that had houses, land, goods, and possessions sold them and laid them at the feet of the apostles...they had all things in common distributing to every man as they had need; one mind and purpose...the message of sold out was preached by our Lord Jesus and the church did accordingly...for where one's treasure is, there will be the heart also...the Gospel was preached by the saints being scattered abroad, none remaining at Jerusalem but the apostles...the divine commission was carried out by the church, "Go ye into all the world..."

COOPER
03-11-2007, 07:53 PM
amen Praxeas
If we want the Book of Acts results, we have to do the same. Those that had houses, land, goods, and possessions sold them and laid them at the feet of the apostles...they had all things in common distributing to every man as they had need; one mind and purpose...the message of sold out was preached by our Lord Jesus and the church did accordingly...for where one's treasure is, there will be the heart also...the Gospel was preached by the saints being scattered abroad, none remaining at Jerusalem but the apostles...the divine commission was carried out by the church, "Go ye into all the world..."
They were not commanded to sell all and lay it at the feet of Apostles.
But lets be real, do you really seeing this happening today.:killinme

Old Paths
03-11-2007, 08:10 PM
A gig is a gig and a worship service is a worship service and they never shall be the same.

Have a nice eternity.


:banghead

Apostolic Kitty
03-11-2007, 09:14 PM
I'm with CS, Thumper & BP on this...

Your worship to the Lord is your worship no matter who is around...

BUT if you're going to sit there and play for a church then you are putting your stamp on their doctrine.... And if you are really an apostolic who believes in baptism in Jesus name and receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost as evidenced by speaking in tongues... I would consider that a spiritually unethical thing to do.

COOPER
03-11-2007, 10:33 PM
I'm with CS, Thumper & BP on this...

Your worship to the Lord is your worship no matter who is around...

BUT if you're going to sit there and play for a church then you are putting your stamp on their doctrine.... And if you are really an apostolic who believes in baptism in Jesus name and receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost as evidenced by speaking in tongues... I would consider that a spiritually unethical thing to do.
:beatdeadhorse
What ever, Thank God I am no longer fellowshipping such madness.:bliss

Old Paths
03-11-2007, 10:54 PM
I'm with CS, Thumper & BP on this...

Your worship to the Lord is your worship no matter who is around...

BUT if you're going to sit there and play for a church then you are putting your stamp on their doctrine.... And if you are really an apostolic who believes in baptism in Jesus name and receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost as evidenced by speaking in tongues... I would consider that a spiritually unethical thing to do.



Amen.

2 John 11

11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
KJV

COOPER
03-11-2007, 10:58 PM
Amen.

2 John 11

11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
KJV

Oh such scornful pompousnesses.

Old Paths
03-11-2007, 11:00 PM
Oh such scornful pompousnesses.



Who meeeeeeeeeeeeee?


Never.


:tease

rrford
03-11-2007, 11:01 PM
Who meeeeeeeeeeeeee?


Never.


:tease
Hey, it's got to be better than pompous scornfulness. :heeheehee

Old Paths
03-11-2007, 11:02 PM
Hey, it's got to be better than pompous scornfulness. :heeheehee



That too.

Beard
03-12-2007, 11:49 AM
COOPER
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beard View Post
amen Praxeas
If we want the Book of Acts results, we have to do the same. Those that had houses, land, goods, and possessions sold them and laid them at the feet of the apostles...they had all things in common distributing to every man as they had need; one mind and purpose...the message of sold out was preached by our Lord Jesus and the church did accordingly...for where one's treasure is, there will be the heart also...the Gospel was preached by the saints being scattered abroad, none remaining at Jerusalem but the apostles...the divine commission was carried out by the church, "Go ye into all the world..."
They were not commanded to sell all and lay it at the feet of Apostles.
But lets be real, do you really seeing this happening today.

Doctrine must be spoken of the Lord, carried out by disciples, and confirmed in the church.

Jesus spoke the following to all, not just to the rich young ruler:
"Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." (Luke 12:33,34).

The disciples that followed Jesus did accordingly:
"Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?" (Matthew 19:27).

The church did the same:
"And all that believed were together, and had all things common;And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need." (Acts 2:44,45).

Do I see this as really happening today? No. Will it happen again before the Lord comes? yes, and to a greater degree as the last day revival will be greater than the former as this gospel of the kingdom is preached in all the world for a witness to all nations, and then shall the end come...

By the way Coop, play for the glory of the Lord, for we are told to play skillfully and with a loud noise, for his Word is right and his works are done in truth.

Rhymis
03-12-2007, 12:42 PM
This thread is a real joke. I am amused.

Thad
03-12-2007, 01:02 PM
I have a friend in the Bay area who plays for a missionary Baptist church.
He gets $900 a sunday. he only has to play on sundy morning and attend choir practice during the week. he then goes and plays for the church his father founded " all nations apostolic church " oakland ,CA.
He told me he only does it for the income and would always be apostolic.

COOPER
03-12-2007, 03:08 PM
This thread is a real joke. I am amused.

I have a friend in the Bay area who plays for a missionary Baptist church.
He gets $900 a Sunday. he only has to play on Sunday morning and attend choir practice during the week. he then goes and plays for the church his father founded " all nations apostolic church " Oakland ,CA.
He told me he only does it for the income and would always be apostolic.
Laughing all the way to the bank.

COOPER
03-12-2007, 03:09 PM
Doctrine must be spoken of the Lord, carried out by disciples, and confirmed in the church.

Jesus spoke the following to all, not just to the rich young ruler:
"Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." (Luke 12:33,34).

The disciples that followed Jesus did accordingly:
"Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?" (Matthew 19:27).

The church did the same:
"And all that believed were together, and had all things common;And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need." (Acts 2:44,45).

Do I see this as really happening today? No. Will it happen again before the Lord comes? yes, and to a greater degree as the last day revival will be greater than the former as this gospel of the kingdom is preached in all the world for a witness to all nations, and then shall the end come...

By the way Coop, play for the glory of the Lord, for we are told to play skillfully and with a loud noise, for his Word is right and his works are done in truth.

Today that would cult.

Thad
03-12-2007, 03:24 PM
Laughing all the way to the bank.

he is highly skilled, experienced, plays great, knows how to train a choir to really sing and teaches parts. the large churches will pay this and more for someone who can play, put a band and choir together as well as praise team.
for those of you that are familiar with GMWA, he is over the mass choir at the annual convention.


Coop, what did you decide ? would your family attend this church too ?

COOPER
03-12-2007, 03:28 PM
he is highly skilled, experienced, plays great, knows how to train a choir to really sing and teaches parts. the large churches will pay this and more for someone who can play, put a band and choir together as well as praise team.
for those of you that are familiar with GMWA, he is over the mass choir at the annual convention.


Coop, what did you decide ? would your family attend this church too ?

I go back this Thursday to audition. If I get picked; then I guess we will go on Sundays, or at least I will.
When I was in the UPC, I played the guitar and sang ant a Baptist adult singles group. I was payed $75.00 each time.
It was fun.

Thad
03-12-2007, 03:33 PM
I go back this Thursday to audition. If I get picked; then I guess we will go on Sundays, or at least I will.
When I was in the UPC, I played the guitar and sang ant a Baptist adult singles group. I was payed $75.00 each time.
It was fun.


Do they know you are Jesus name oneness ??

COOPER
03-12-2007, 03:43 PM
Do they know you are Jesus name oneness ??
No they don't. The music leader just knows I have a Pentecostal back ground.

Thad
03-12-2007, 03:46 PM
No they don't. The music leader just knows I have a Pentecostal back ground.


give me their number I'm placing a call

COOPER
03-12-2007, 03:53 PM
give me their number I'm placing a call

Web site? :tease

http://www.believersway.org/wordpress/

Jebs brother
03-13-2007, 09:01 AM
Today that would cult.

Cult? I wonder why someone would display that as a cult?

By saying that, you're saying the disciples were part of a cult and that the Book of Acts Church was also part of a cult.

Everything in God's Word applies to past, present, and future. No one can say that what the Word of God instructs us to do is only for the people back then. No one wants to admit it is for us today because we don't want to give up all the things we possess. It's a hard life but if anyone wants anything REAL and a MOVE of God, they must sell out everything.

COOPER
03-13-2007, 10:03 AM
Cult? I wonder why someone would display that as a cult?

By saying that, you're saying the disciples were part of a cult and that the Book of Acts Church was also part of a cult.

Everything in God's Word applies to past, present, and future. No one can say that what the Word of God instructs us to do is only for the people back then. No one wants to admit it is for us today because we don't want to give up all the things we possess. It's a hard life but if anyone wants anything REAL and a MOVE of God, they must sell out everything.


Everything in God's Word applies to past, present, and future. No one can say that what the Word of God instructs us to do is only for the people back then.
They were not instucted to sell lands and propeties the give it to the Apostles.
If you start commanding or suggesting something is a command or instruction of God that is only a Act of Will by the church in Acts then
you are
Are going down the Cult path buddy.
No one wants to admit it is for us today because we don't want to give up all the things we possess. It's a hard life but if anyone wants anything REAL and a MOVE of God, they must sell out everything
Go ahead and do it. live like a bumb for God.:killinme
CULT STORIES
http://www.childbrides.org/boys.html

COOPER
03-13-2007, 10:31 AM
CULT COMMUNITY, ARIZONA CITY, UTAH
http://www.childbrides.org/boys.html
http://www.childbrides.org/LAT_photo_gallery.html

Thad
03-13-2007, 10:35 AM
Web site? :tease

http://www.believersway.org/wordpress/


okay, I called the church office and told them that you was "Jesus Only".
they said " tell him don't bother to come back". so there you go Coop.
you lost the gig you can blame it on me :bliss

COOPER
03-13-2007, 10:47 AM
okay, I called the church office and told them that you was "Jesus Only".
they said " tell him don't bother to come back". so there you go Coop.
you lost the gig you can blame it on me :bliss
I am not a Jesus only weardo:dunno

Malvaro
03-13-2007, 10:52 AM
I am not a Jesus only weardo:dunno

you mean weirdo? You're not a "Jesus Freak"??? (old DC Talk song)

Whole Hearted
03-13-2007, 11:06 AM
Oh so you really aren't oneness?

berkeley
03-13-2007, 11:28 AM
Oh so you really aren't oneness?Apparently not! :hmmm

COOPER
03-13-2007, 12:15 PM
Oh so you really aren't oneness?

I am not that kind of "Jesus Only" that others denominations call the UPC.
When I was UPC our church would be call by some trinitarians Jesus Only and even My Pastor would clarify we believe in one God but we are not of the Jesus Only.
Does any one know what exactly the Jesus Only believe?

Beard
03-13-2007, 12:31 PM
Jebs brother
Quote:
Originally Posted by COOPER View Post
Today that would cult.
Cult? I wonder why someone would display that as a cult?

By saying that, you're saying the disciples were part of a cult and that the Book of Acts Church was also part of a cult.

Everything in God's Word applies to past, present, and future. No one can say that what the Word of God instructs us to do is only for the people back then. No one wants to admit it is for us today because we don't want to give up all the things we possess. It's a hard life but if anyone wants anything REAL and a MOVE of God, they must sell out everything.

Amen Jebs brother....
the cross must be taken up by the believer in order to follow Jesus...

They can try to explain it away, but the Lord said in Luke 12 to "sell that ye have" in order to provide for yourself treasure in the heavens...and yes, it is truly an act of the will, for one must will to do so since it does not automatically happen to a believer...

The same chapter that Jesus instructed his disciples to "sell" that they had is the same chapter that provides the reason and necessity for a believer to do so. However, the believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not some man made organization, but to the kingdom of God. If believers are not led of the Spirit of God, they are not sons of God to begin with. This is for the one's that want to follow the Lord by taking up their cross....this is not understood in this present day, but has been polluted by charlatans who are hired hirelings rather than true leaders...

The first thing is a squabble over inheritance....the man requested Jesus to be a judge in the matter of his losing his natural inheritance...
"12:13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth." (Luke 12:13-15). A man's life is not measured in material possessions...this is the way the world judges..seeking after money rather than God.

What is this man's sin in the scripture listed below? Why is his soul required of him?
Again, what was his sin? Take a look at it below:

12:16 "And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." (Luke 12:16-21).

What is this man's sin? He did not commit adultery...he did not blaspheme the Holy Ghost...but his soul was required of him. Is it because that he was rich toward self and not rich toward God. It is a sobering thought of one's life and balance sheet...

live like a bum? :heeheehee
God will provide for this believer who has entered into faith in God...." But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you." (Luke 12:31).

12:33 "Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth." (Luke 12:33). Notice, the Lord did not say, if you desire to sell that ye have, you can have this or that? or "If you want to sell that ye have...?" The Lord simply stated "Sell that ye have..." Pretty straight forward....

As a matter of truth, there is only one mention of a hundred fold blessing in the Word of God:
"And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life." (Matthew 19:29).

Again, a believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not by self, otherwise, it can be disastrous.

COOPER
03-13-2007, 12:36 PM
Amen Jebs brother....
the cross must be taken up by the believer in order to follow Jesus...

They can try to explain it away, but the Lord said in Luke 12 to "sell that ye have" in order to provide for yourself treasure in the heavens...and yes, it is truly an act of the will, for one must will to do so since it does not automatically happen to a believer...

The same chapter that Jesus instructed his disciples to "sell" that they had is the same chapter that provides the reason and necessity for a believer to do so. However, the believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not some man made organization, but to the kingdom of God. If believers are not led of the Spirit of God, they are not sons of God to begin with. This is for the one's that want to follow the Lord by taking up their cross....this is not understood in this present day, but has been polluted by charlatans who are hired hirelings rather than true leaders...

The first thing is a squabble over inheritance....the man requested Jesus to be a judge in the matter of his losing his natural inheritance...
"12:13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth." (Luke 12:13-15). A man's life is not measured in material possessions...this is the way the world judges..seeking after money rather than God.

What is this man's sin in the scripture listed below? Why is his soul required of him?
Again, what was his sin? Take a look at it below:

12:16 "And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." (Luke 12:16-21).

What is this man's sin? He did not commit adultery...he did not blaspheme the Holy Ghost...but his soul was required of him. Is it because that he was rich toward self and not rich toward God. It is a sobering thought of one's life and balance sheet...

live like a bum? :heeheehee
God will provide for this believer who has entered into faith in God...." But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you." (Luke 12:31).

12:33 "Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth." (Luke 12:33). Notice, the Lord did not say, if you desire to sell that ye have, you can have this or that? or "If you want to sell that ye have...?" The Lord simply stated "Sell that ye have..." Pretty straight forward....

As a matter of truth, there is only one mention of a hundred fold blessing in the Word of God:
"And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life." (Matthew 19:29).

Again, a believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not by self, otherwise, it can be disastrous.Have you sold All that you have? How much money did you make and who got it?

COOPER
03-13-2007, 12:54 PM
Have you sold All that you have? How much money did you make and who got it?
:hmmm :depressed

Beard
03-13-2007, 01:40 PM
COOPER
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beard View Post
Amen Jebs brother....
the cross must be taken up by the believer in order to follow Jesus...

They can try to explain it away, but the Lord said in Luke 12 to "sell that ye have" in order to provide for yourself treasure in the heavens...and yes, it is truly an act of the will, for one must will to do so since it does not automatically happen to a believer...

The same chapter that Jesus instructed his disciples to "sell" that they had is the same chapter that provides the reason and necessity for a believer to do so. However, the believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not some man made organization, but to the kingdom of God. If believers are not led of the Spirit of God, they are not sons of God to begin with. This is for the one's that want to follow the Lord by taking up their cross....this is not understood in this present day, but has been polluted by charlatans who are hired hirelings rather than true leaders...

The first thing is a squabble over inheritance....the man requested Jesus to be a judge in the matter of his losing his natural inheritance...
"12:13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth." (Luke 12:13-15). A man's life is not measured in material possessions...this is the way the world judges..seeking after money rather than God.

What is this man's sin in the scripture listed below? Why is his soul required of him?
Again, what was his sin? Take a look at it below:

12:16 "And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." (Luke 12:16-21).

What is this man's sin? He did not commit adultery...he did not blaspheme the Holy Ghost...but his soul was required of him. Is it because that he was rich toward self and not rich toward God. It is a sobering thought of one's life and balance sheet...

live like a bum?
God will provide for this believer who has entered into faith in God...." But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you." (Luke 12:31).

12:33 "Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth." (Luke 12:33). Notice, the Lord did not say, if you desire to sell that ye have, you can have this or that? or "If you want to sell that ye have...?" The Lord simply stated "Sell that ye have..." Pretty straight forward....

As a matter of truth, there is only one mention of a hundred fold blessing in the Word of God:
"And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life." (Matthew 19:29).

Again, a believer must be led of the Holy Ghost in these things and not by self, otherwise, it can be disastrous.
Have you sold All that you have? How much money did you make and who got it?

Good question Coop....

Yes, I did sell all possessions in 1978
I made a little over $20,000 a year at the time in the insurance business
I gave to the ministry of Ray Strange who lived in Alexandria, LA at the time..

COOPER
03-13-2007, 01:45 PM
Good question Coop....

Yes, I did sell all possessions in 1978
I made a little over $20,000 a year at the time in the insurance business
I gave to the ministry of Ray Strange who lived in Alexandria, LA at the time..
Did you have a wife and kids?
Were did you sleep?

I know for sure if My old Pastor or any Pastor preacher would start teaching to sell All you have,
Sell: House, Cars, Lands, Buisness and all possesions etc.
I would run out the door quicker than Greased Lightning.
It would be foolish to put my Family out on the streets with out a home, food, bedding or transportation to work and give every thing to some ministry.

COOPER
03-13-2007, 02:02 PM
Good question Coop....

Yes, I did sell all possessions in 1978
I made a little over $20,000 a year at the time in the insurance business
I gave to the ministry of Ray Strange who lived in Alexandria, LA at the time..
Do you have possesions now?
If so why get more if you are to sell everything?

Beard
03-13-2007, 06:56 PM
COOPER
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beard View Post
Good question Coop....

Yes, I did sell all possessions in 1978
I made a little over $20,000 a year at the time in the insurance business
I gave to the ministry of Ray Strange who lived in Alexandria, LA at the time..
Did you have a wife and kids?
Were did you sleep?

I know for sure if My old Pastor or any Pastor preacher would start teaching to sell All you have,
Sell: House, Cars, Lands, Buisness and all possesions etc.
I would run out the door quicker than Greased Lightning.
It would be foolish to put my Family out on the streets with out a home, food, bedding or transportation to work and give every thing to some ministry.

yes, I had a wife and 2 children. We traveled with the ministry of Ray Strange for 2 years who provided a travel trailer for us to live in.

I would never sell possessions without the leading of God; therefore, I agree with you...

COOPER
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beard View Post
Good question Coop....

Yes, I did sell all possessions in 1978
I made a little over $20,000 a year at the time in the insurance business
I gave to the ministry of Ray Strange who lived in Alexandria, LA at the time..
Do you have possesions now?
If so why get more if you are to sell everything?

The ministry (DBMI) owns a gospel tent (60' X 170') with equipment, trucks, travel trailers for 2 other families that travel with us in ministry; My wife and I travel in a Bluebird Wanderlodge. We simply use any monies for existence and furtherance of the Gospel. It takes money to get the Gospel out to the lost and we are doing our best to win souls. I would not advise anyone to do this at all....just to those who are called of God to do so....

The next revival by the way is in Slidell, LA which starts in April. God bless you Coop...

Scott Hutchinson
03-13-2007, 07:40 PM
Bro.Beard I pray that yall see a mighty move of the Holy Ghost in Slidell.

Jebs brother
03-13-2007, 07:52 PM
They were not instucted to sell lands and propeties the give it to the Apostles.
If you start commanding or suggesting something is a command or instruction of God that is only a Act of Will by the church in Acts then
you are
Are going down the Cult path buddy.

Go ahead and do it. live like a bumb for God.:killinme

CULT STORIES
http://www.childbrides.org/boys.html

Jesus is Who instructed and commanded to sell out IF you follow Him.

"Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me." (Luke 18:22)

"And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need." (Acts 2:44-45)

"And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need." (Acts 4:32-35)

Man is not the one commanding anyone to sell out all of his or her possessions, it's Jesus who commands everyone who wills to follow Him to do such an act. Read Luke 18:22 Again.

As far as living like a bum for God, do you not know that the worldly possessions are nothing to the spiritual man and the spiritual possessions are nothing to the worldly man? I'd rather sell out for my God because I have chosen to follow Him and be a bum in your eyes versus selling my soul to worldly business and having houses, lands, etc. and look good in your eyes.

Jebs brother
03-13-2007, 07:58 PM
Amen Bro. Beard! I just now read your other posts above. You said it all and more!

COOPER
03-14-2007, 08:46 AM
yes, I had a wife and 2 children. We traveled with the ministry of Ray Strange for 2 years who provided a travel trailer for us to live in.

I would never sell possessions without the leading of God; therefore, I agree with you...



The ministry (DBMI) owns a gospel tent (60' X 170') with equipment, trucks, travel trailers for 2 other families that travel with us in ministry; My wife and I travel in a Bluebird Wanderlodge. We simply use any monies for existence and furtherance of the Gospel. It takes money to get the Gospel out to the lost and we are doing our best to win souls. I would not advise anyone to do this at all....just to those who are called of God to do so....

The next revival by the way is in Slidell, LA which starts in April. God bless you Coop...

I am thankful that you explained it that way.:thumbsup
Sounds like an awesome ministry.

Apostolic Kitty
03-14-2007, 10:08 PM
The next revival by the way is in Slidell, LA which starts in April. God bless you Coop...

Brother Bryan's church??

Beard
03-16-2007, 10:34 AM
Scott Hutchinson
Bro.Beard I pray that yall see a mighty move of the Holy Ghost in Slidell.

Thank you Brother Hutchinson for your prayers...I appreciate your word of encouragement....we have come to the area a couple weeks ago to get things ready...should be good to go first of April...I will post the meeting on the board when everything is finalized....

As far as being paid for music, why not? Musicians are gifted by God but it takes hours of practice in order to play skillfully...hours and hours a day is usually the sacrifice as the norm for a good musician who can play...

Apostolic Kitty,
Pastor Bryan is a good man and has a nice UPC church in Slidell. This meeting is not sponsored by any denomination/independent churches, although all churches will be invited to take part....

Kutless
03-16-2007, 10:39 AM
Brother Bryan's church??I was baptized in the Slidell Church. Or at least the old bldg. Pastor Dykes.

I really do like the New Bldg.

Beard
03-16-2007, 12:36 PM
COOPER
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beard View Post
yes, I had a wife and 2 children. We traveled with the ministry of Ray Strange for 2 years who provided a travel trailer for us to live in.

I would never sell possessions without the leading of God; therefore, I agree with you...



The ministry (DBMI) owns a gospel tent (60' X 170') with equipment, trucks, travel trailers for 2 other families that travel with us in ministry; My wife and I travel in a Bluebird Wanderlodge. We simply use any monies for existence and furtherance of the Gospel. It takes money to get the Gospel out to the lost and we are doing our best to win souls. I would not advise anyone to do this at all....just to those who are called of God to do so....

The next revival by the way is in Slidell, LA which starts in April. God bless you Coop...
I am thankful that you explained it that way.
Sounds like an awesome ministry.

you're welcome Coop...
I don't know how awesome, but it is a lot of work...

Apostolic Kitty
03-17-2007, 02:03 PM
I was baptized in the Slidell Church. Or at least the old bldg. Pastor Dykes.

I really do like the New Bldg.


I don't know who Pastor Dykes is, but we went to Brother Bryan's church for a while when we were still back home.

Apostolic Kitty
03-17-2007, 02:07 PM
Apostolic Kitty,
Pastor Bryan is a good man and has a nice UPC church in Slidell. This meeting is not sponsored by any denomination/independent churches, although all churches will be invited to take part....

So... What kind of setting are you having it in? Tent? Renting a building?

Beard
03-18-2007, 10:41 AM
Apostolic Kitty
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beard View Post
Apostolic Kitty,
Pastor Bryan is a good man and has a nice UPC church in Slidell. This meeting is not sponsored by any denomination/independent churches, although all churches will be invited to take part....
So... What kind of setting are you having it in? Tent? Renting a building?

Tent meeting....

Apostolic Kitty
03-18-2007, 11:03 PM
Tent meeting....


Cool! If I were still back home I'd come visit....

COOPER
03-19-2007, 08:12 AM
The Believers Way Church picked me to be the Bass player.

But , I did not feel good about it.

I have decided not to play the Bass.

Steve Epley
03-19-2007, 08:17 AM
The Believers Way Church picked me to be the Bass player.

But , I did not feel good about it.

I have decided not to play the Bass.

Well good your feeling are returning and I rejoice with you. Coop you have had several experiences that lean toward this maybe the Lord is dealing with you.

COOPER
03-19-2007, 08:25 AM
Well good your feeling are returning and I rejoice with you. Coop you have had several experiences that lean toward this maybe the Lord is dealing with you.
I hope so, cause I do need his leading.

Apostolic Kitty
03-19-2007, 06:53 PM
I hope so, cause I do need his leading.

God will make a way for you in what you want to do for Him, Coop.

COOPER
03-19-2007, 09:09 PM
God will make a way for you in what you want to do for Him, Coop.
I will take that

CC1
03-19-2007, 10:07 PM
The Believers Way Church picked me to be the Bass player.

But , I did not feel good about it.

I have decided not to play the Bass.

What happened? Did they turn out not to be the believers way?

South of I 90
03-19-2007, 10:26 PM
What happened? Did they turn out not to be the believers way?

It possibly was a case of too much believing!! :winkgrin

Malvaro
03-19-2007, 10:48 PM
The Believers Way Church picked me to be the Bass player.

But , I did not feel good about it.

I have decided not to play the Bass.

Coop, i'm proud of your decision....

God will bless you for placing His truths first in your life....

COOPER
03-20-2007, 07:57 AM
What happened? Did they turn out not to be the believers way?

It possibly was a case of too much believing!! :winkgrin

Coop, i'm proud of your decision....

God will bless you for placing His truths first in your life....
Just did not feel right about it and other reasons too.

QueenEsther
03-20-2007, 08:33 AM
here's a thought, instead of paying everyone that does something for the church, just let people keep the tithes!! ohh.. naw,, that won't work, the pastor would have to get a job!!:tease

That wouldn't work becuase EVERYONE needs to pay tithes. My pastor pays them to our church and to his former church.

QueenEsther
03-20-2007, 08:41 AM
Just did not feel right about it and other reasons too.

That's great Coop!!! Money isn't everything! That's what I have always told my husband - don't just take a job for the money. If you truly need the money wait on God to place you where he wants you.

CC1
03-20-2007, 10:27 AM
Coop,

You've got them excited now! They are envisioning you with a buzz cut at the closest ultra con church stomping the devil !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COOPER
03-20-2007, 10:36 AM
That's great Coop!!! Money isn't everything! That's what I have always told my husband - don't just take a job for the money. If you truly need the money wait on God to place you where he wants you.
thanks!

Coop,

You've got them excited now! They are envisioning you with a buzz cut at the closest ultra con church stomping the devil !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:toofunny

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03-20-2007, 11:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beard View Post
Tent meeting....

Cool! If I were still back home I'd come visit....

Wish you could come Apostolic Kitty...

Congratulations Coop. I agree with the brethren here that God has something greater for you in the truth....

COOPER
03-20-2007, 12:10 PM
Wish you could come Apostolic Kitty...

Congratulations Coop. I agree with the brethren here that God has something greater for you in the truth....
Well thanks Bro. Beard, I believe it too.