Jonathan Suber's Official Announcement

[James Griffin]

Suber Ministry Group, the International Ministry of Jonathan and Stephanie Suber, is currently re-locating to Shreveport, Louisiana. After spending the last four years developing an apostolic trans-mobile ministry, the Subers have accepted the pastorate of Faith Tabernacle after being appointed by Bishop Shelton Young. Dr.Young, along with his dear wife Alice, is retiring from pastoring after over 50 fruitful years in the Shreveport-Bossier area.

We are leaving Texas with great gratitude for Bishop Kenneth Phillips and Promiseland Church as well as Dr. W.E.Hutchins and Church of Champions. These Churches have sacrificed tremendously to allow us the liberty to develop our international traveling ministry as well as Issachar Institute. We will forever be indebted to Bishop Phillips for allowing us to base in Austin as the Resident Evangelist of Promiseland. Church. Stephanie has enjoyed this time with her family so very much. We are leaving Austin, but it will always hold a special place in our heart.

We are moving our offices to Shreveport this week to begin the next phase of our life and ministry. We are so excited about re- entering pastoral ministry and the future of Faith Tabernacle, New Testament Church. We will be developing a new church website asap, but will keep you informed on our SMG site in the meantime. We will continue to develop new teaching product and materials for spiritual development. The kick-off of our new FaithWorks orphanage in Philippines as well as the new on-line FaithWorks Institute will be coming soon. We are both working on new books to be released this year.

We appreciate our friends and partners so much for all of your prayers and support these last few months. This has been one of the most crucial decisions of our lives and we have not taken it lightly. We are convinced that there are things we are called to do that can only be accomplished through pastoral ministry. We are grateful to the congregation of Faith Tabernacle for selecting us as their next Senior Pastor and we look forward to spending the best years of our lives loving and leading them.

Please remember our family in prayer during this time of travel, change, re-locating.

Jonathan and Stephanie Suber


http://www.suberministrygroup.com/08-update.php

[Scott Hutchinson]

Well being a Pastor maybe our dear brother will preach a slower,he kinda gets wound up.
I wish him the best,I rather enjoy his preaching.

[triumphant1]

Way to go JS!!

JS told me this afternoon one of the hold ups was getting a pic to the webmaster of the Youngs and Subers together...it's a great pic!

[Thad]

T1,

you have some apologies to make.

you rebuked a lot of people and told them they were lying and saying that JS was NOT moving to Shreveport.

[James Griffin]

T1,

you have some apologies to make.

you rebuked a lot of people and told them they were lying and saying that JS was NOT moving to Shreveport.

Thad I "believe" he said that he (Suber )had not committed yet. Since that announcement is minutes old, I think it's safe to say he just committed LOL

[Thad]

Thad I "believe" he said that he (Suber )had not committed yet. Since that announcement is minutes old, I think it's safe to say he just committed LOL


****PLEADING THE FIFTH ****



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[James Griffin]

****PLEADING THE FIFTH ****



.

THAT'S MY BOY!!!!! Now you're getting the hang of it.

:star:rudolph:star

[SavedLou]

is the NCO another organization or more like a theology? the site leaves room for speculation. i actually live near shreveport. what is faith tab now-non-denom? i'm a little confused...why exactly did JS leave the UPC? standards as a whole or lots of things? not being critical...just curious. all this is pretty new to me...just trying to stay abreast.

[LaGirl]

is the NCO another organization or more like a theology? the site leaves room for speculation. i actually live near shreveport. what is faith tab now-non-denom? i'm a little confused...why exactly did JS leave the UPC? standards as a whole or lots of things? not being critical...just curious. all this is pretty new to me...just trying to stay abreast.

arent you full of questions for a newbie!!! WELCOME!

[PastorD]

is the NCO another organization or more like a theology? the site leaves room for speculation. i actually live near shreveport. what is faith tab now-non-denom? i'm a little confused...why exactly did JS leave the UPC? standards as a whole or lots of things? not being critical...just curious. all this is pretty new to me...just trying to stay abreast.


Someone might be willing to answer, but as for me I am scared of T1. He gets a little sensitive with Q's like these.

:penguin

[LaGirl]

Someone might be willing to answer, but as for me I am scared of T1. He gets a little sensitive with Q's like these.

:penguin

you are in trouble now! :gotcha

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Should we name this "Suber's Tab"

JG, you had to see there were other Suber threads.

[James Griffin]

is the NCO another organization or more like a theology? the site leaves room for speculation. i actually live near shreveport. what is faith tab now-non-denom? i'm a little confused...why exactly did JS leave the UPC? standards as a whole or lots of things? not being critical...just curious. all this is pretty new to me...just trying to stay abreast.

Sigh.

Neither.

It has always been independent Apostolic.

Even though I speak to him almost daily never asked specific reasons, not really germane. But I am sure if it means that much to you his website is www.suberministrygroup.com and you can pop him an email or post since that is a question best asked of the man himself.

[James Griffin]

Should we name this "Suber's Tab"

JG, you had to see there were other Suber threads.

Thad would have started it, but he was out at the time.

And this UNLIKE the others is a statement from Pastor Suber, as opposed to idle speculation.

So hopefully will be last thread on the topic.

:rudolph

[LaGirl]

Thad would have started it, but he was out at the time.

And this UNLIKE the others is a statement from Pastor Suber, as opposed to idle speculation.

:rudolph

lol....looks like the "idle speculation" was true huh :gotcha
i understand...it just wasnt "official"

[James Griffin]

lol....looks like the "idle speculation" was true huh :gotcha
i understand...it just wasnt "official"

Where is he was going was not the only topic.

But yes the main issue was that of official acceptance.

What was not stated. He was voted in MONTHS ago by Faith Tabernacle. And it was not the only church he preached at that requested he come pastor.

[LaGirl]

Where is he was going was not the only topic.

But yes the main issue was that of official acceptance.

What was not stated. He was voted in MONTHS ago by Faith Tabernacle. And it was not the only church he preached at that requested he come pastor.

the point was...he was moving to Shreveport to pastor. now i guess it is "Official."

[James Griffin]

the point was...he was moving to Shreveport to pastor. now i guess it is "Official."

Yes maam. That is what Pastor Suber said in his announcement (Post #1 of this thread) just a few hours ago. :-)

[SavedLou]

Sigh.

Neither.

It has always been independent Apostolic.

Even though I speak to him almost daily never asked specific reasons, not really germane. But I am sure if it means that much to you his website is www.suberministrygroup.com and you can pop him an email or post since that is a question best asked of the man himself.


wow...i didn't know i was so annoying :)

[LaGirl]

Yes maam. That is what Pastor Suber said in his announcement (Post #1 of this thread) just a few hours ago. :-)

but we really knew this weeks ago!

[LaGirl]

wow...i didn't know i was so annoying :)

you will learn :star

[SavedLou]

arent you full of questions for a newbie!!! WELCOME!

oh u know...i have to hurry and get caught up with u! how did ya'll get that pic on the slide? perfect timing!

[LaGirl]

oh u know...i have to hurry and get caught up with u! how did ya'll get that pic on the slide? perfect timing!

im good! lol :saycheese

[James Griffin]

but we really knew this weeks ago!

Sorry don't play the circular argument like some of my friends do. LOL

It was not known weeks ago, it was speculated,however it was even stated as PROBABLE then.

Been long day, I can point direction to articles concerning the finer points of offer and acceptance if you need :-)

Even though it was probable, more likely than not, it is now official, as of Sunday Jan. 6th, he will be stationed out of Shreveport.

[SavedLou]

im good! lol :saycheese

ask him if he's gonna let me share the slide this summer. lookin forward to it already...u know some of us have to work the rest of the year!:gotcha

[seguidordejesus]

Sorry don't play the circular argument like some of my friends do. LOL

It was not known weeks ago, it was speculated,however it was even stated as PROBABLE then.

Been long day, I can point direction to articles concerning the finer points of offer and acceptance if you need :-)

Even though it was probable, more likely than not, it is now official, as of Sunday Jan. 6th, he will be stationed out of Shreveport.

Sometimes I really like you :)

[LaGirl]

Sorry don't play the circular argument like some of my friends do. LOL

It was not known weeks ago, it was speculated,however it was even stated as PROBABLE then.

Been long day, I can point direction to articles concerning the finer points of offer and acceptance if you need :-)

Even though it was probable, more likely than not, it is now official, as of Sunday Jan. 6th, he will be stationed out of Shreveport.

two weeks ago the church members said it was a done deal. anyway....glad it is now "official."

Sorry don't play the circular argument like some of my friends do. LOL why not...that takes the fun out of it!!!

[James Griffin]

Sometimes I really like you :)

Thank you. "Follower of Jesus". :-)

I promised I would make known the second it was official.

How's the family?

[LaGirl]

ask him if he's gonna let me share the slide this summer. lookin forward to it already...u know some of us have to work the rest of the year!:gotcha

he said he would share the slide with you. :christmoose

[SavedLou]

Even though it was probable, more likely than not, it is now official, as of Sunday Jan. 6th, he will be stationed out of Shreveport.

well now the question is...if the local UPCers wanted to go hear him preach would they have to go in trenchcoats? lol! cause i know a lot of peeps that luv his preachin.:christmoose

[James Griffin]

two weeks ago the church members said it was a done deal. anyway....glad it is now "official."

Sorry don't play the circular argument like some of my friends do. LOL why not...that takes the fun out of it!!!

LaGirl I promise I am near the top of people glad its official too!!!!

Throughly enjoyed my time spent with Bishop Young and the people at his church.

:star:newyear:star

[LaGirl]

i am sure he is still in good standing

[LaGirl]

LaGirl I promise I am near the top of people glad its official too!!!!

:star:newyear:star


:christmoose

[seguidordejesus]

Thank you. "Follower of Jesus". :-)

I promised I would make known the second it was official.

How's the family?

Family's great, generally...wife's a little crabby at the baby right now :) The baby's doing her customary midnight cry...wait, isn't that a song? :D I'm about to go relieve her.

[James Griffin]

well now the question is...if the local UPCers wanted to go hear him preach would they have to go in trenchcoats? lol! cause i know a lot of peeps that luv his preachin.:christmoose

Only if they are afraid of their pastors. And really any good saint would ask their pastor before visiting another church.

Pastor Suber preaches regularly at UPCI churches, and even preached at one New Year's eve. Some of his dearest friends are UPCI pastors. Since he left UPCI on good terms there is no reason to believe he will not be preaching for them and vice versa.

[SavedLou]

Only if they are afraid of their pastors. And really any good saint would ask their pastor before visiting another church.

Pastor Suber preaches regularly at UPCI churches, and even preached at one New Year's eve. Some of his dearest friends are UPCI pastors. Since he left UPCI on good terms there is no reason to believe he will not be preaching for them and vice versa.

i assumed as such and glad to hear it. i just didn't know if he left on good terms or not...totally clueless. yeah-isn't it still up to the pastor to decide who preaches as a guest, etc? i don't know all the "rules" :)

[SecretWarrior]

Only if they are afraid of their pastors. And really any good saint would ask their pastor before visiting another church.

Pastor Suber preaches regularly at UPCI churches, and even preached at one New Year's eve. Some of his dearest friends are UPCI pastors. Since he left UPCI on good terms there is no reason to believe he will not be preaching for them and vice versa.



JS is still UPC in his heart of hearts.
If i was a bettin', I'd say he longs to be back in the UPC


There,I said it! lol
Now come and get me Bro Griffin :christmoose

[PastorD]

i assumed as such and glad to hear it. i just didn't know if he left on good terms or not...totally clueless. yeah-isn't it still up to the pastor to decide who preaches as a guest, etc? i don't know all the "rules" :)

Somehow I doubt this.

:noidea

[StMark]

JS is still UPC in his heart of hearts.
If i was a bettin', I'd say he longs to be back in the UPC


There,I said it! lol
Now come and get me Bro Griffin :christmoose


O my! my o my

[James Griffin]

JS is still UPC in his heart of hearts.
If i was a bettin', I'd say he longs to be back in the UPC


There,I said it! lol
Now come and get me Bro Griffin :christmoose

Sorry you must have me mistaken for another Bro Griffin. I have to desire to "get" any one :-)

I would definitely say he misses it. I gave up my license with the UPCI 25 years ago and in many ways still miss it.

However if he "longed to be back in" it he no doubt would be.

:star

[James Griffin]

Somehow I doubt this.

:noidea

You articulated want I discerned from post #1 :-)

[PastorD]

You articulated want I discerned from post #1 :-)

We got gifts Sir James!

:highfive

[James Griffin]

We got gifts Sir James!

:highfive

BTW if ok with you Phil Jones wanted to join us for that cup of coffee.

:star

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

O my! my o my

Scooped again dude.

Even though it was here days ago with the same facts. I guess you have to turn in the press pass.

[James Griffin]

Scooped again dude.

Even though it was here days ago with the same facts. I guess you have to turn in the press pass.

Actually he got the info first just unfortunately was not available to post it.

On the other hand it is the ONLY thread I have seen here where Jonathan Suber's name is correctly spelled LOL

[PastorD]

Scooped again dude.

Even though it was here days ago with the same facts. I guess you have to turn in the press pass.

Now Boom...you must be confused. It was Thad that got scooped. This is some saint named Mark.

:noidea

[SavedLou]

You articulated want I discerned from post #1 :-)

:surrender wow...what a warm welcome. as u can see i am new. fyi-i didn't know until a WEEK ago that JS had even left the organization and i crammed nearly a year's worth of ramblings about him on this site into a day or so of reading. believe it or not i'm just trying to get my facts straight b/c i've heard one thing after the other on here. forgive me for wanting to know the truth instead of making my own assumptions.

[James Griffin]

Now Boom...you must be confused. It was Thad that got scooped. This is some saint named Mark.

:noidea

PD I guess they are competitors!!!??!!!

And please be careful my friend I have been told they ban people for questioning the mental state (confused) of Admins!!!

[PastorD]

:surrender wow...what a warm welcome. as u can see i am new. fyi-i didn't know until a WEEK ago that JS had even left the organization and i crammed nearly a year's worth of ramblings about him on this site into a day or so of reading. believe it or not i'm just trying to get my facts straight b/c i've heard one thing after the other on here. forgive me for wanting to know the truth instead of making my own assumptions.


James....I will defer to you. Age before..anyway.

:penguin

[James Griffin]

James....I will defer to you. Age before..anyway.

:penguin

1. Did not see anything in need of a response it was a statement, and obviously said person did NOT read the myriad of threads beaten to death (Maybe we should direct to new topic such as three stepper or one?)

2. This senior citizen is headed to bed.

:rudolph

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

PD I guess they are competitors!!!??!!!

And please be careful my friend I have been told they ban people for questioning the mental state (confused) of Admins!!!

:huh

[SavedLou]

1. Did not see anything in need of a response it was a statement, and obviously said person did NOT read the myriad of threads beaten to death (Maybe we should direct to new topic such as three stepper or one?)

2. This senior citizen is headed to bed.

:rudolph

um...i do have a name. i thought this was an apostolic [I]friends/I] forum. not feeling any friend vibes tonight...maybe a good night's sleep will be just the cure for us all. may we have lots of dreams filled with PLEASANT thoughts of being KIND to others.... :)

[PastorD]

um...i do have a name. i thought this was an apostolic [I]friends/I] forum. not feeling any friend vibes tonight...maybe a good night's sleep will be just the cure for us all. may we have lots of dreams filled with PLEASANT thoughts of being KIND to others.... :)

Relax SAVEDLOU.....your posts would suggest that you are not as new as you keep 'trying' to convince everyone you are. Seems nearly every post has a comment about your newness here.

:newyear

[SavedLou]

:penguin:pullhairRelax SAVEDLOU.....your posts would suggest that you are not as new as you keep 'trying' to convince everyone you are. Seems nearly every post has a comment about your newness here.

:newyear

lol! k...u caught me! i am a member of the anti-suber secret nazi society!
i don't have anything to "convince" to anyone...i had simply never heard of all this new church order/tulsa/world pent fellowship stuff until recently. i'm reading up, getting educated. but maybe i should have just read and gotten the heck out of dodge and never joined this forum b/c i made a HUGE mistake of asking questions obviously.
:pullhair <----lou goes stark raving mad
i happen to be a good friend of lagirl and she can vouch that i've never posted on here before tonight. but i can see your mind is already made up. for the record, i think JS is an awesome man of God. i happen to live in La. VERY near to where he is moving and have heard/seen the rumors of him moving here...trying to understand all the controversy about him. case closed. and i believe two posts on two diff threads (this one and the one about the Tulsa mtg) DO mention my newness.. wow...that's because they were the first 2 i created and...wait for it...wait for it....drum roll please.........I AM NEW!!!whoooooo....what a crazy idea to announce (as a new member) that u are new! i also posted in a thread for ladies AND spoke to steve hoover about the tv show he was on but i'm sure u already know that. HE was very nice. oh no! i MAY have mentioned i was new to him too. oops. (bites nails) now i'm in for it. i am off to get some beauty sleep-it's late and my sarcasm has kicked into overdrive!

[Encryptus]

Methinks the "lady" doeth protest too much.

[Ferd]

I didnt like the font on the website.

must not be of god.

[LaGirl]

she is new and REALLY didnt have a CLUE about JS. from what i understand, she stumbled on this website. i had no clue she was even on here until she PMed me......not that it really matters. Lou, if you were old to the site and asked questions about JS....you would still get flack from some! so dont worry about it! oh..and it isnt true unless it comes from them or it is "official." know what i mean! :christmoose

[SavedLou]

she is new and REALLY didnt have a CLUE about JS. from what i understand, she stumbled on this website. i had no clue she was even on here until she PMed me......not that it really matters. Lou, if you were old to the site and asked questions about JS....you would still get flack from some! so dont worry about it! oh..and it isnt true unless it comes from them or it is "official." know what i mean! :christmoose

thanks La...(hard for me to not use your name) :) i was going to message u this morning and tell u to read all of that! funny huh? i didn't realize that people were so bored that they would pick apart EVERY word i said and find some "hidden" meaning...lol! i know who to tippie toe around now. and funny how people will jump on the bandwagon just cause of who else is! :) ps. u still goin to that shower? sigh...i know i NEED to but...showers....u know!

[Mrs. LPW]

Sigh.

Neither.

It has always been independent Apostolic.

Even though I speak to him almost daily never asked specific reasons, not really germane. But I am sure if it means that much to you his website is www.suberministrygroup.com and you can pop him an email or post since that is a question best asked of the man himself.

I've personally emailed him twice since he left and never recieved a response.

[MrsMcD]

thanks La...(hard for me to not use your name) :) i was going to message u this morning and tell u to read all of that! funny huh? i didn't realize that people were so bored that they would pick apart EVERY word i said and find some "hidden" meaning...lol! i know who to tippie toe around now. and funny how people will jump on the bandwagon just cause of who else is! :) ps. u still goin to that shower? sigh...i know i NEED to but...showers....u know!

Welcome to AFF! :penguin

[SavedLou]

Welcome to AFF! :penguin

thanks! lol! :newyear

[triumphant1]

The Lord is so good. He blesses those who walk according to His plan. He orders their every step and directs their every move! Those who follow him never fear and never wonder where their strength comes from!

[SavedLou]

Mrs. LPW-i love your avatar...looks like something that a huge oil painting would be pretty of, hung above the fireplace :)

[Mrs. LPW]

um...i do have a name. i thought this was an apostolic [I]friends/I] forum. not feeling any friend vibes tonight...maybe a good night's sleep will be just the cure for us all. may we have lots of dreams filled with PLEASANT thoughts of being KIND to others.... :)

Good Luck with that!

[Mrs. LPW]

Relax SAVEDLOU.....your posts would suggest that you are not as new as you keep 'trying' to convince everyone you are. Seems nearly every post has a comment about your newness here.

:newyear

OH COME ON.... I did the same thing when I joined, and I was talked down to as well.


Some topics are touchy on here Lou, and some folks would bully you right off of them if they could. Stick around!

[SavedLou]

Good Luck with that!

was i hoping against hope? :jolly

[Mrs. LPW]

Mrs. LPW-i love your avatar...looks like something that a huge oil painting would be pretty of, hung above the fireplace :)

I knew I liked you!

[Mrs. LPW]

was i hoping against hope? :jolly

Hope thou in the Lord. :christmoose

[SavedLou]

OH COME ON.... I did the same thing when I joined, and I was talked down to as well.


Some topics are touchy on here Lou, and some folks would bully you right off of them if they could. Stick around!

thanks...i plan on it. i'm tough...i can take it...i just try to be nice to people. i guess i should have expected some flack being new.

[ShofarMan]

Come on ladies. ROFLOL. Newbie to Newbie. That was (AND STILL IS) an OBVIOUS and ORCHESTRATED thread hijacking.

SL your "friend" LaG coached you well. Kudos.

[triumphant1]

Come on ladies. ROFLOL. Newbie to Newbie. That was (AND STILL IS) an OBVIOUS and ORCHESTRATED thread hijacking.

SL your "friend" LaG coached you well. Kudos.

Let's sing that old song...

AMEN..in a manger..
AMEN...baby Jesus...
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN...

Glory Hallelujah...

AMEN...Going to Jerusalem.............:penguin

[SavedLou]

Come on ladies. ROFLOL. Newbie to Newbie. That was (AND STILL IS) an OBVIOUS and ORCHESTRATED thread hijacking.

SL your "friend" LaG coached you well. Kudos.

now I really am ROFLOL! i've heard it all! sigh...would u like to tell how asking questions is hijacking? this is toooooo funny-she is going to die when she reads this one! but maybe i should just call and tell her...or better yet drive over there...she lives 20 min away. (but i am prob making that up :jolly)

[SavedLou]

Let's sing that old song...

AMEN..in a manger..
AMEN...baby Jesus...
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN...

Glory Hallelujah...

AMEN...Going to Jerusalem.............:penguin

triump...that your wife? she does make u look good!
:christmoose

[triumphant1]

triump...that your wife? she does make u look good!
:christmoose

That is my wife...

And she does make me look good!!!!

Thanks for the compliment--for her!!! I'm a blessed and favored man!!!!

[SavedLou]

That is my wife...

And she does make me look good!!!!

Thanks for the compliment--for her!!! I'm a blessed and favored man!!!!

she is very pretty...she looks like she enjoys life as well.

[triumphant1]

she is very pretty...she looks like she enjoys life as well.

Thank You so much. She absolutely does!

We both live in God's grace and know God's blessings!

I am very blessed to have her as a wife, a mom to our two boys, and a partner in ministry.

[Encryptus]

Thank You so much. She absolutely does!

We both live in God's grace and know God's blessings!

I am very blessed to have her as a wife, a mom to our two boys, and a partner in ministry.

Come on RG, you're kinda cute yourself.

:happydance:happydance:happydance

[triumphant1]

Come on RG, you're kinda cute yourself.

:happydance:happydance:happydance

ROTFL!!!!

[SavedLou]

Thank You so much. She absolutely does!

We both live in God's grace and know God's blessings!

I am very blessed to have her as a wife, a mom to our two boys, and a partner in ministry.

that's so great to hear...in this day and age it's nice to see couples who really are a team and who truly love each other. my husband and i talk about how we feel sorry for people trapped in love-less marriages. not supposed to be that way. i am married to my best friend and it is a VERY comforting feeling. and a major blessing.

[Encryptus]

Ahhhhh SL and T1 this calls for a group hug!!!!!


:hug3:hug3:hug3:hug3

[triumphant1]

that's so great to hear...in this day and age it's nice to see couples who really are a team and who truly love each other. my husband and i talk about how we feel sorry for people trapped in love-less marriages. not supposed to be that way. i am married to my best friend and it is a VERY comforting feeling. and a major blessing.

So very true..

One great thing about being in the ministry too is that every area of our life is connected...it's not like I get up and go to work at a job she is separate from..we are in all of this together!

Being married to your best friend is one of the greatest blessings this life can hold!

[philjones]

So very true..

One great thing about being in the ministry too is that every area of our life is connected...it's not like I get up and go to work at a job she is separate from..we are in all of this together!

Being married to your best friend is one of the greatest blessings this life can hold!

What does it mean if you are married to your ONLY friend?:penguin:penguin

[Mrs. LPW]

What does it mean if you are married to your ONLY friend?:penguin:penguin

...you're not liberal enough :jolly

[philjones]

...you're not liberal enough :jolly

You must be right! :D

[James Griffin]

You must be right! :D

Dude I'll be your friend.

:star

[philjones]

Dude I'll be your friend.

:star

Whew... now I have two... my dilemma is deciding if I am now really married to my best friend!:jolly:christmoose

[James Griffin]

Whew... now I have two... my dilemma is deciding if I am now really married to my best friend!:jolly:christmoose

Rested assured you ARE already in God's will on that one!!!!!

[philjones]

Rested assured you ARE already in God's will on that one!!!!!

I wasn't really struggling too hard... :snowman:jolly

[SavedLou]

What does it mean if you are married to your ONLY friend?:penguin:penguin

lol! i would say that my husband often says that!! oh i read somewhere that u are friends with rev chad d. how's he doing? i first met him at la campmtg in a hotel...he was sitting around doing benny hinn impressions w/his hanky! :christmoose he is sooooo funny and an awesome preacher! he used to come to a young minister's conference w/bro barnes at our church when he was just getting started.

[philjones]

lol! i would say that my husband often says that!! oh i read somewhere that u are friends with rev chad d. how's he doing? i first met him at la campmtg in a hotel...he was sitting around doing benny hinn impressions w/his hanky! :christmoose he is sooooo funny and an awesome preacher! he used to come to a young minister's conference w/bro barnes at our church when he was just getting started.

He is much improved... the addition of a good Canadian Queen to his castle has made him a much better man and man of God! He is now complete.

Houma is doing well. He came up to preach for us a little before Christmas and was his usual anointed self in the pulpit and his usual rascally self out of it. :D

Since you know LAGirl, you also probably know my niece, Alisa Corkern and her brood!

[SavedLou]

He is much improved... the addition of a good Canadian Queen to his castle has made him a much better man and man of God! He is now complete.

Houma is doing well. He came up to preach for us a little before Christmas and was his usual anointed self in the pulpit and his usual rascally self out of it. :D

Since you know LAGirl, you also probably know my niece, Alisa Corkern and her brood!

yes..married life will tend to do that to us. i haven't seen him in years though. wow...small world. yes i know alisa & her blond brood. she needs a pretty little brunette girl to even the score! i sure miss having them around. they came and sang out our tent revival last april. oh no phil..there has been some speculation that lagirl and i were pretending to be friends....it is possible i am making all this up! lol!

[philjones]

yes..married life will tend to do that to us. i haven't seen him in years though. wow...small world. yes i know alisa & her blond brood. she needs a pretty little brunette girl to even the score! i sure miss having them around. they came and sang out our tent revival last april. oh no phil..there has been some speculation that lagirl and i were pretending to be friends....it is possible i am making all this up! lol!

News... Unfortunately, Alisa will never be able to have the little girl she always longed for. Her only option will be adoption going forward. I grieve for her every time she is around my curly haired brunette 2 year old grand daughter. When she says she is jealous of Olivia... you have no doubt that it is true.

Here is my granddaughter for reference sake

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/phil2jones/Family%20Christmas%20Pics/FamilyChristmasPictures054.jpg

I am supposed to be going up to Choudrant to preach from Bro. Wise some time in the future... just not sure when it will be.

[SavedLou]

News... Unfortunately, Alisa will never be able to have the little girl she always longed for.

awww...that is sad to hear. your g'daughter is a cutie. i'm sure she is by no means wrapped around your little finger.

I am supposed to be going up to Choudrant to preach from Bro. Wise some time in the future... just not sure when it will be.

i don't know why i keep thinking ruston...do u know if bro oddo (spelling?) is still there? last i heard they weren't upc but not sure if he has another church or what. i think alisa said bro wise church was aljc? i can't remember.

[philjones]

i don't know why i keep thinking ruston...do u know if bro oddo (spelling?) is still there? last i heard they weren't upc but not sure if he has another church or what. i think alisa said bro wise church was aljc? i can't remember.

I don't know about Ruston or if Bro. Oddo is still there.

The church in Choudrant is ALJC and Bro. Wise is the District Secretary.

[SavedLou]

i used to go to bro oddo's some when i lived over there going to Tech. they were very nice people. very friendly. never been to bro wise's. is it very big?

[Ferd]

Brother Phil, I did not know that about Alisa! Mrs Ferd will also be sad to hear it.

SavedLou, last I heard Brother Oddo was in Ruston and was out of the UPCI. As I understand it, Jonathan Foster (of the west monroe fosters) was his assistant. my information is about a year old or so.

[SavedLou]

Brother Phil, I did not know that about Alisa! Mrs Ferd will also be sad to hear it.

SavedLou, last I heard Brother Oddo was in Ruston and was out of the UPCI. As I understand it, Jonathan Foster (of the west monroe fosters) was his assistant. my information is about a year old or so.

yeah mine too...didn't know foster was his assistant though. when i used to go there they had already been through a lot of changes-upc then out then back in when i was there but they got a lot of criticism b/c the avg UPC person would visit and say "they are going charismatic" but they had soooo many visitiors/new converts that was why. sad b/c i heard a wise preacher say one time to look around your church and if there weren't people there that didn't look like u something was wrong...means there's no growth. since i hadn't been there in a few years i wasn't sure what was going on in ruston.

[Joseph Miller]

is the NCO another organization or more like a theology? the site leaves room for speculation. i actually live near shreveport. what is faith tab now-non-denom? i'm a little confused...why exactly did JS leave the UPC? standards as a whole or lots of things? not being critical...just curious. all this is pretty new to me...just trying to stay abreast.

arent you full of questions for a newbie!!! WELCOME!

Someone might be willing to answer, but as for me I am scared of T1. He gets a little sensitive with Q's like these.

:penguin


I ain't scared, I will begin the scripture and you will know the rest of it.

"Because they received not a LOVE for the truth, God gave......"

[LaGirl]

Come on ladies. ROFLOL. Newbie to Newbie. That was (AND STILL IS) an OBVIOUS and ORCHESTRATED thread hijacking.

SL your "friend" LaG coached you well. Kudos.

coached her.....lol lol now that was funny!!! i had NO IDEA she was on here until she PMed me and told me!

[LaGirl]

that's so great to hear...in this day and age it's nice to see couples who really are a team and who truly love each other. my husband and i talk about how we feel sorry for people trapped in love-less marriages. not supposed to be that way. i am married to my best friend and it is a VERY comforting feeling. and a major blessing.

BUT HE IS A BRAVES FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :gotcha

[LaGirl]

Brother Phil, I did not know that about Alisa! Mrs Ferd will also be sad to hear it.

SavedLou, last I heard Brother Oddo was in Ruston and was out of the UPCI. As I understand it, Jonathan Foster (of the west monroe fosters) was his assistant. my information is about a year old or so.

your information is correct.

[SavedLou]

BUT HE IS A BRAVES FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :gotcha

oh now...don't hold that against him. at least ya'll have something to discuss huh? i still say the 4 of us need to go on a trip...you and him go to the games and me and mr. nurse can go sightseeing. lol!:jolly

[LaGirl]

oh now...don't hold that against him. at least ya'll have something to discuss huh? i still say the 4 of us need to go on a trip...you and him go to the games and me and mr. nurse can go sightseeing. lol!:jolly

sounds good to me!!!

[gulfcoastbrother]

Love the Suber's...TRULY, GODLY PEOPLE!!!
It was the UPCI's loss when they left.

[Raven]

I ain't scared, I will begin the scripture and you will know the rest of it.

"Because they received not a LOVE for the truth, God gave......"
JM

Let me kindly correct you on your scripture quote. The misquoting of II Thess. 2:10. is a common error. It actually says, "..because they received not the love of the truth, ...". One little letter in one little word makes all the difference in the meaning. I know what you were gunning for but it won't work in this case.

Raven

[James Griffin]

JM

Let me kindly correct you on your scripture quote. The misquoting of II Thess. 2:10. is a common error. It actually says, "..because they received not the love of the truth, ...". One little letter in one little word makes all the difference in the meaning. I know what you were gunning for but it won't work in this case.

Raven

I let it pass as well. Obvious where wanted the discussion to be headed, since all the questions pulled had been answered in subsequent posts.

:happydance

[acharris]

From Friday's Shreveport Times Newspaper:

Faith Tabernacle's new pastor to start Sunday

Faith Tabernacle Church will welcome its new pastor this weekend. The Rev. Jonathan and Stephanie Suber will begin full-time ministry in the church with services Sunday.

[seguidordejesus]

From Friday's Shreveport Times Newspaper:

Faith Tabernacle's new pastor to start Sunday

Faith Tabernacle Church will welcome its new pastor this weekend. The Rev. Jonathan and Stephanie Suber will begin full-time ministry in the church with services Sunday.

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008801040361

[Jekyll]

Sorry don't play the circular argument like some of my friends do. LOL

It was not known weeks ago, it was speculated,however it was even stated as PROBABLE then.

Been long day, I can point direction to articles concerning the finer points of offer and acceptance if you need :-)

Even though it was probable, more likely than not, it is now official, as of Sunday Jan. 6th, he will be stationed out of Shreveport.
I guess this kind of speculation is only valid against the Tulsa folks and against the more conservative folks in the UPC

:ohplease

[James Griffin]

I guess this kind of speculation is only valid against the Tulsa folks and against the more conservative folks in the UPC

:ohplease


Personally I would have no idea, I have never speculated about either.

:happydance:happydance:happydance:happydance

[Mike Williamson]

Only if they are afraid of their pastors. And really any good saint would ask their pastor before visiting another church.

Pastor Suber preaches regularly at UPCI churches, and even preached at one New Year's eve. Some of his dearest friends are UPCI pastors. Since he left UPCI on good terms there is no reason to believe he will not be preaching for them and vice versa.

And why in the world would a good saint need to ask their pastor for permission to go hear the truth preached??? I don't ask my pastor for permission to go to Walmart or to work, why would I need permission to go to church???

[James Griffin]

And why in the world would a good saint need to ask their pastor for permission to go hear the truth preached??? I don't ask my pastor for permission to go to Walmart or to work, why would I need permission to go to church???

Tell Jeff I said hi!!!!

[Mike Williamson]

Tell Jeff I said hi!!!!

Sure. But you didn't answer the question.

[James Griffin]

Sure. But you didn't answer the question.

Probably because I know what your pastor would say about saints skipping out on services to attend other churches without letting him know first.

:nod

[Mike Williamson]

Probably because I know what your pastor would say about saints skipping out on services to attend other churches without letting him know first.

:nod

Who said anything about skipping out on services??

[Tina]

And please be careful my friend I have been told they ban people for questioning the mental state (confused) of Admins!!!

Hasn't anyone ever told you that you shouldn't believe everything you hear? Sometimes you just have to consider the source of the information.

[James Griffin]

Hasn't anyone ever told you that you shouldn't believe everything you hear? Sometimes you just have to consider the source of the information.

But admin was the source :-)

[CC1]

And why in the world would a good saint need to ask their pastor for permission to go hear the truth preached??? I don't ask my pastor for permission to go to Walmart or to work, why would I need permission to go to church???

Obviously you were not raised in old time Pentecost where your life is pretty much lined out for you from what clothes you can and cannot wear to where you can and cannot go. Everybody knows a pastor can't trust his saints to visit another church! They would immediately fall into error (oh, and perhaps leave and not pay tithes)

[seguidordejesus]

How did J. Suber's first Sunday at the new church go?

[James Griffin]

How did J. Suber's first Sunday at the new church go?

Well. Told me several new families.

Several needs met.

Still in transition.

HQ'd there but still has a lot of stuff left to move.

[seguidordejesus]

Well. Told me several new families.

Several needs met.

Still in transition.

HQ'd there but still has a lot of stuff left to move.

Great to hear!

[papapraiz]

I noticed Jonathan Suber is ministering this week at a winter campmeeting.

www.happygospelchurch.com/hgc/Events.html

Did anyone attend?

[papapraiz]

Okay - I found a little more information about it here.

http://www.jonathansuber.com/KeepinItReal/

[papapraiz]

bump!

[AmazingGrace]

bump!

yay! Seriously I think everyone is sick of this subject... seems pretty obvious considering no one has responded huh?