Get Over Tampa, Get Over Tulsa

[deacon blues]

I'm sorry, but this pity party over the Tampa vote is nauseating! I refuse to take the blame for voting my conscience at Tampa the result of which made some men feel they needed to leave the UPC and start a new organization.

Get over it! It is what it is. I think Jesus is fully capable of accomplishing His will and building His Kingdom however He chooses and it can be accomplished through BOTH the UPC and the WPF. Some are acting like Samuel mourning over Saul. How long will you weep for Saul? Go get up fill your horn with oil---there's a new king to anoint!

Get busy about the Kingdom's business and quit whining about who did what to whom. They voted their conscience we voted ours. The vote went one way and not the other. Some feel they need to leave others are fine with the way things are.

There is no need to demonize either side. Leave Tampa alone and leave Tulsa alone. God is in control. The Gospel will be preached to the whole world. Souls will still be saved. The rapture is still going to happen.

The UPCI doesn't need a "healer". We've got all the healer we need. Jesus is still with us. I hope and pray Jesus is still with WPF. Time will tell. BUT PLEASE---GET OVER TAMPA!!!!!!

It is so last September.

[Neck]

I'm sorry, but this pity party over the Tampa vote is nauseating! I refuse to take the blame for voting my conscience at Tampa the result of which made some men feel they needed to leave the UPC and start a new organization.

Get over it! It is what it is. I think Jesus is fully capable of accomplishing His will and building His Kingdom however He chooses and it can be accomplished through BOTH the UPC and the WPF. Some are acting like Samuel mourning over Saul. How long will you weep for Saul? Go get up fill your horn with oil---there's a new king to anoint!

Get busy about the Kingdom's business and quit whining about who did what to whom. They voted their conscience we voted ours. The vote went one way and not the other. Some feel they need to leave others are fine with the way things are.

There is no need to demonize either side. Leave Tampa alone and leave Tulsa alone. God is in control. The Gospel will be preached to the whole world. Souls will still be saved. The rapture is still going to happen.

The UPCI doesn't need a "healer". We've got all the healer we need. Jesus is still with us. I hope and pray Jesus is still with WPF. Time will tell. BUT PLEASE---GET OVER TAMPA!!!!!!

It is so last September.

I THINK YOU SHOULD NOW BE KNOWN AS "gandhi"

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

What are we going to fight about Next week when Tulsa is a memory?

[pelathais]

While your desire to get to work on more important matters is commendable, when it comes to our fellowship I think we do need to do a lot of house cleaning. I have been in churches where I spent years paralyzed and unable to win souls because I didn't really think I would be helping folks by bringing them to "my" church.

Once, for a brief period of time, I sat in a UPC church where I was the only "saint" and the preacher still took out all of his insecurities on me from the pulpit. I just had to cry.

[StillStanding]

Leave the Tulsa Group Alone!!!

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[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Leave the Tulsa Group Alone!!!

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r227/Steinwayman/Brittney.jpg

Which AFF gathering was THAT taken at?!?

:shocked:

[rgcraig]

What are we going to fight about Next week when Tulsa is a memory?

Oh, it's only the beginning..................this will go on for a long, long time!

[rgcraig]

Leave the Tulsa Group Alone!!!

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LOLOLOLOLOL - - I can hear the voice now!

That was great PM!

[DividedThigh]

deacon blues i do agree with you, but you and i both know, there is a lot of yacking still to come, lol,dt:jogging:

[DividedThigh]

LOLOLOLOLOL - - I can hear the voice now!

That was great PM!

wow pm those teeth look dangerous, lol, yikes, dt:jogging:

[Blubayou]

DB- You are so right- I know the ministers who are behind this movement think they are doing this for the greater good- but I am tired of our movement majoring on the minors. We need to focus our attention on the Great Commission that Christ gave us and do our best to fulfill it. I think if you asked most saints, they would feel the same way.

[pelathais]

Leave the Tulsa Group Alone!!!

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r227/Steinwayman/Brittney.jpg
I'm such a loser, so I'll go ahead and ask... what pop culture reference is being made here?

[StillStanding]

LOLOLOLOLOL - - I can hear the voice now!

That was great PM!

:lol Folks won't get this attempt at humor unless they saw the original on YouTube! :D

[TrmptPraise]

I'm such a loser, so I'll go ahead and ask... what pop culture reference is being made here?

I believe the person uttered on his (yes, his) blog "Leave Britney Alone!!!!!!"

[Ferd]

I'm such a loser, so I'll go ahead and ask... what pop culture reference is being made here?

i guess im a bigger looser cuz i know!

this is some freak on you tube ranting about people being mean to Brittany Spears.

Dear sweet Lord, why did the Brit Brit HAVE to be from Louisiana????

[pelathais]

I believe the person uttered on his (yes, his) blog "Leave Britney Alone!!!!!!"
Thanks Trumpet! And Ferd!

[TrmptPraise]

Dear sweet Lord, why did the Brit Brit HAVE to be from Louisiana????

Tell me about it, Ferd. Haven't lived down there in quite a while, but I may have to sell my birthright for some of your chili :toofunny

[TrmptPraise]

Oh and BTW, DC, I think a lot of people echo your sentiments. Unfortunately, human nature's need for explanations, opinions and defensive stances tend to outweigh the overall purpose.

[Steve Epley]

Deacon Blues it is being rumored that it was you that put out that thread concerning the Tulsa brethren that was deleted that was suppose to be satire is that true?

[StMark]

Deacon Blues it is being rumored that it was you that put out that thread concerning the Tulsa brethren that was deleted that was suppose to be satire is that true?


I seriously doubt it. I have talked to a lot of people we all say the same thing- has to be an inside job or someone who knows a lot and someone from the west.
I do not know who wrote it but i am on a campaign to find out.
also, I got word today that whoever wrote it is going to write some kind of explanation about it

[GritsNGravy]

Amen, Amen deacon blues!

[mizpeh]

I seriously doubt it. I have talked to a lot of people we all say the same thing- has to be an inside job or someone who knows a lot and someone from the west.
I do not know who wrote it but i am on a campaign to find out.
also, I got word today that whoever wrote it is going to write some kind of explanation about it

Coonskinner has a gut feeling about who wrote it. Is he right? :exercise:

[StMark]

Coonskinner has a gut feeling about who wrote it. Is he right? :exercise:

He might be thinking that because DB writes satire and no offense to coon but I seriously do not think it was DB

[rgcraig]

He might be thinking that because DB writes satire and no offense to coon but I seriously do not think it was DB

Well, that will be interesting to find out when it's not him - - then would that be called slander toward DB?

[Theophil]

I believe the person uttered on his (yes, his) blog "Leave Britney Alone!!!!!!"

What did you do, get a new, ultralib makeover??? (new picture):yourock

[pelathais]

He might be thinking that because DB writes satire and no offense to coon but I seriously do not think it was DB
I'm hardly the expert, but I agree. I don't quite pick up on DB's voice in that satire post.

It strikes me as someone else, but I'm probably way off base on that one as well.

[Coonskinner]

Well, that will be interesting to find out when it's not him - - then would that be called slander toward DB?

If it is slander to think DB wrote that piece, color me slanderous.

I think he did.

It has all the marks of his writing.

If he did not, my opinion was wrong.

Oh well, been wrong before.

[RevDWW]

When did it become slander to guess who might or might not have written a satirical posting? And which POst are we talking about?

[Coonskinner]

Furthermore, since when is it slander to speculate about the authorship of a piece of writing?

I have NEVER said I "knew" who the author was; only that I had a strong opinion based on similarities in style and point of view.

I did not make my speculations public, but I don't mind.

And besides, it can be settled real easy--if Deacon Blues says he didn't write it, I will certainly accept his word.

But I recall a piece he wrote as Ubiquitous on FCF or NFCF one that was very, very similar in style.

He wrote a commentary on various possibilites for GS that showed a lot of knowledge about the inner political workings of the UPC.

If he says he did not write it, I will believe him.

But I don't think it is at all correct to say "slander" because I make an observation that the style and tone are like DB.

I thought we were still allowed to express opinions.

[mizpeh]

When did it become slander to guess who might or might not have written a satirical posting? And which POst are we talking about?

The thread has been deleted.

[Coonskinner]

When did it become slander to guess who might or might not have written a satirical posting? And which POst are we talking about?


I guess it is a fairly recent development.

It was a thread since removed.

[RevDWW]

I guess it is a fairly recent development.

It was a thread since removed.

Was it the "Young Conservative Preacher" thread?

[Coonskinner]

It was titled "A Young Minister's Guide to Getting Ahead in the WWPF" I believe.

[RevDWW]

It was titled "A Young Minister's Guide to Getting Ahead in the WWPF" I believe.

By the way slander is spoken word, not written. Written words about someone living, impugning that persons character is defamation.

Was any living person named in the post?

What is ‘slander’?

Slander is a spoken defamation. Defamation or "defamation of character," is spoken or written words that falsely and negatively reflect on a living person's reputation.

There are attorneys who specialize in defamation lawsuits. You can find a listing of specialists in your area at AttorneyPages.com. http://injury-law.freeadvice.com/libel_and_slander/slander.htm

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

By the way slander is spoken word, not written. Written words about someone living, impugning that persons character is defamation.

Was any living person named in the post?

http://injury-law.freeadvice.com/libel_and_slander/slander.htm

Names directly named and not even initials.

[rgcraig]

Furthermore, since when is it slander to speculate about the authorship of a piece of writing?

I have NEVER said I "knew" who the author was; only that I had a strong opinion based on similarities in style and point of view.

I did not make my speculations public, but I don't mind.

And besides, it can be settled real easy--if Deacon Blues says he didn't write it, I will certainly accept his word.

But I recall a piece he wrote as Ubiquitous on FCF or NFCF one that was very, very similar in style.

He wrote a commentary on various possibilites for GS that showed a lot of knowledge about the inner political workings of the UPC.

If he says he did not write it, I will believe him.

But I don't think it is at all correct to say "slander" because I make an observation that the style and tone are like DB.

I thought we were still allowed to express opinions.

I wasn't speaking of you being slanderous for thinking it might be DB.

However, there were some pretty slanderous things being said about the author of that piece and if the rumor is that it's DB, then that could be seen as slanderous toward DB as the piece itself.

[Felicity]

I never had a problem with Tampa.

Tulsa -- men have the power of choice and to choose. I choose to not support the Tulsa deal but I don't hate anyone for doing what they feel is in their best interests.

Live and let live! :bliss

[George]

I don't believe the author of the young ministers guideline had to have an inside track. I knew about all the things in that thread and I most certainly do not have an inside track. If the author was a long time lurker on this site he would have been in the know.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

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[Steve Epley]

I did not mean to open a can of worms but I thought the best way to find out was just to ask. I certainly have not accused him I have no idea who wrote it? But he can answer for himself if he will?

[TrueNorth]

If it is slander to think DB wrote that piece, color me slanderous.

I think he did.

It has all the marks of his writing.

If he did not, my opinion was wrong.

Oh well, been wrong before.

Interesting. The speculation I have been privy to has pointed to another poster whose initials are not DB.

I don't know - I ain't smart enough to figger them things.

[deacon blues]

If it is slander to think DB wrote that piece, color me slanderous.

I think he did.

It has all the marks of his writing.

If he did not, my opinion was wrong.

Oh well, been wrong before.

Thanks skinner, I am flattered.

Unfortunately, I do not know the Big Leaders well enough to know the names of their daughters and and sons-in-law, didn't know Godairs were from MO, and who is Bro Sargant?

Whoever wrote that piece has been viwing these people up close and personal for quite a while.

[Steve Epley]

Thanks skinner, I am flattered.

Unfortunately, I do not know the Big Leaders well enough to know the names of their daughters and and sons-in-law, didn't know Godairs were from MO, and who is Bro Sargant?

Whoever wrote that piece has been viwing these people up close and personal for quite a while.

At least this is settled. Mark said it had to be someone much closer probably on the West Coast. Thank you Deacon.

[deacon blues]

Man skinner I forgot all about that post about the GS and potential candidates. Did you save that one? I would like to read it again! You've got a great memory. Have you ever thought about getting a job with the CIA or NSA or some other covert government agency?

BTW---thanks for coming to Memphis and getting together with the backslidden ex-UPCers and failing to inform me that you were in town. I live three minutes from that Cracker Barrell! :) :D

[Steve Epley]

Man skinner I forgot all about that post about the GS and potential candidates. Did you save that one? I would live to read it again! You've got a great memory. Have you ever thought about getting a job with the CIA or NSA or some other covert government agency?

BTW---thanks for coming to Memphis and getting together with the backslidden ex-UPCers and failing to inform me that you were in town. I live three minutes from that Cracker Barrell! :) :D

I seriously doubted the whole bunch's judgment when they chose to go to Cracker Barrell (which I like) instead of Houstons there are Cracker Barrells all over the country but Houstons are few and far between.

[Neck]

Those going to Tulsa call Hazelwood - Hollywood.

Those who said yes in Tampa call Hazelwood - Revivalwood

What "wood" Jesus say about Hazelwood?

I know I spelt it wrong!

[Coonskinner]

Man skinner I forgot all about that post about the GS and potential candidates. Did you save that one? I would live to read it again! You've got a great memory. Have you ever thought about getting a job with the CIA or NSA or some other covert government agency?

BTW---thanks for coming to Memphis and getting together with the backslidden ex-UPCers and failing to inform me that you were in town. I live three minutes from that Cracker Barrell! :) :D

That was a pretty insightful piece back yonder...the one on FCF.:)

As for getting together with Renda and Sherri and not calling you, "I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel...they that are whole need not a physician."

;)

No, actually, my wife and the gals set that one up. I would have been happy for you to have come too.

Next time I'll be sure and get in touch.

[rgcraig]

My bad........about the lunch.

However, it was the Cracker Barrel on Hacks Cross off 385 - not the one close to you.

Bro. E, they were pressed for time and we had to meet at a location on their way to MS, so Houston's would have been out of the way for them. Maybe next time they are coming through we could make that happen and include Deacon!

Thanks for straightening out the rumor.........................I knew it wasn't you all along!

[CC1]

I'm sorry, but this pity party over the Tampa vote is nauseating! I refuse to take the blame for voting my conscience at Tampa the result of which made some men feel they needed to leave the UPC and start a new organization.

Get over it! It is what it is. I think Jesus is fully capable of accomplishing His will and building His Kingdom however He chooses and it can be accomplished through BOTH the UPC and the WPF. Some are acting like Samuel mourning over Saul. How long will you weep for Saul? Go get up fill your horn with oil---there's a new king to anoint!

Get busy about the Kingdom's business and quit whining about who did what to whom. They voted their conscience we voted ours. The vote went one way and not the other. Some feel they need to leave others are fine with the way things are.

There is no need to demonize either side. Leave Tampa alone and leave Tulsa alone. God is in control. The Gospel will be preached to the whole world. Souls will still be saved. The rapture is still going to happen.

The UPCI doesn't need a "healer". We've got all the healer we need. Jesus is still with us. I hope and pray Jesus is still with WPF. Time will tell. BUT PLEASE---GET OVER TAMPA!!!!!!

It is so last September.

Amen and Amen!!

(I defended these men's right to leave and organize around their conscience but lately I have been disturbed by the apearant rampant prosletyzing and feel that is unethical and deserves criticism. It is one thing to leave and form or join another org. but quite another to try and destroy the one you are leaving by stealing it's members)

[CC1]

I seriously doubted the whole bunch's judgment when they chose to go to Cracker Barrell (which I like) instead of Houstons there are Cracker Barrells all over the country but Houstons are few and far between.

You are right on the money! Nashville lost our Houston's that was in West End when their lease ran out and they chose to close rather than relocate. Arghhh!!!

Houston's has the best salads and homemade salad dressing in the world not to mention some good ribs and other food. Oh, and don't forget that cheese bread.

Now you have gone and made me hungry for a restaurant I can't go to!

[George]

Thanks skinner, I am flattered.

Unfortunately, I do not know the Big Leaders well enough to know the names of their daughters and and sons-in-law, didn't know Godairs were from MO, and who is Bro Sargant?

Whoever wrote that piece has been viwing these people up close and personal for quite a while.

My guess is it is an evangelist. Who else would know everything from the east to west? Evangelist most likely preached in all their churches.

[Cindy]

DB- You are so right- I know the ministers who are behind this movement think they are doing this for the greater good- but I am tired of our movement majoring on the minors. We need to focus our attention on the Great Commission that Christ gave us and do our best to fulfill it. I think if you asked most saints, they would feel the same way.

Amen!

[Cindy]

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awwwwwwww, take that foot out of your mouth.........:D

[Steve Epley]

You are right on the money! Nashville lost our Houston's that was in West End when their lease ran out and they chose to close rather than relocate. Arghhh!!!

Houston's has the best salads and homemade salad dressing in the world not to mention some good ribs and other food. Oh, and don't forget that cheese bread.

Now you have gone and made me hungry for a restaurant I can't go to!

I ate at Houstons at Miami twice when I was there. We used to stop nearly every time we came through Nashville. I miss it.

[deacon blues]

That was a pretty insightful piece back yonder...the one on FCF.:)

As for getting together with Renda and Sherri and not calling you, "I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel...they that are whole need not a physician."

;)

No, actually, my wife and the gals set that one up. I would have been happy for you to have come too.

Next time I'll be sure and get in touch.


:toofunny ROFL!!!!!

[deacon blues]

My bad........about the lunch.

However, it was the Cracker Barrel on Hacks Cross off 385 - not the one close to you.

Bro. E, they were pressed for time and we had to meet at a location on their way to MS, so Houston's would have been out of the way for them. Maybe next time they are coming through we could make that happen and include Deacon!

Thanks for straightening out the rumor.........................I knew it wasn't you all along!

SOOOO it was YOU!!!!!!!:naughty

You don't even want to eat with me anymore!!!:sad

What about all those special dinners at Firebirds? Have you completely forgotten about the good ole days?????:violin
























J/K
We love you Renda!!!!!!:hug4

[rgcraig]

SOOOO it was YOU!!!!!!!:naughty

You don't even want to eat with me anymore!!!:sad

What about all those special dinners at Firebirds? Have you completely forgotten about the good ole days?????:violin



J/K
We love you Renda!!!!!!:hug4 Anytime and especially at Firebirds!!!!

However, this trip was dicing as we didn't really know when they would be coming through and Sherri and I just shopped around the area waiting for the phone call when they crossed the bridge.

Maybe next time we can catch them and keep them more than an hour and a half!