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Digging4Truth
02-04-2008, 08:53 PM
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.
Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
Rev 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name [shall be] in their foreheads.
Rev 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings [are] faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed [is] he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard [them]. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Rev 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

Does anybody have any thoughts about what the tree of life is or what the 12 fruit on the tree of life are?

To be honest I am wanting to discuss this from a preterist point of view.

Rev
02-04-2008, 09:02 PM
Does anybody have any thoughts about what the tree of life is or what the 12 fruit on the tree of life are?

To be honest I am wanting to discuss this from a preterist point of view.

The tree of life is a type of Jesus Christ. Just like he is the

Bread of life
Water of life
Spirit of life and etc.


When we eat the fruit from that tree then we become a tree of life also.

Notice in verse 2 that there is more than one tree.

There are many scriptures on this subject but I'm not going to go into all of them.

Digging4Truth
02-05-2008, 06:36 AM
The tree of life is a type of Jesus Christ. Just like he is the

Bread of life
Water of life
Spirit of life and etc.


When we eat the fruit from that tree then we become a tree of life also.

Notice in verse 2 that there is more than one tree.

There are many scriptures on this subject but I'm not going to go into all of them.

What would the 12 fruit be? The word of the apostles? I would have thought that there would be 9 fruit and that would symbolize the fruit of the spirit. I find the choice of 12 fruit very interesting.

OneAccord
02-05-2008, 09:17 AM
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.

Not being a real deep thinker, I don't know what the 12 fruits are. Of course, Paul listed 9 fruits of the Spirit in Galations. But, there are only 9 and not 12. Could it be that John was speaking of the nine, plus 3 that aren't listed by Paul? Perhaps these 3 spiritual fruits of Revelation (Paul used the singular "fruit" to show that the 9 go together) are three we are discover ourselves through the leading of the Holy Spirit. I don't know. Mere conjecture on my part.

However I know what the leaves are for: the healing of the Nations. Nothing, no attempt by man has ever brought lasting peace. The Civil War was fought to unite a country. Its still divided. WW1 was "the war to end all wars". Yet, in the 20th Century alone, how many wars were fought that, in actuality has accomplished nothing? True, Germany and Japan were defeated. But its also true that when one enemy is vanquished, two arise in his place.

Israel, the land we call God's Soveriegn Nation has never known peace. Any world peace we ever see is predicated upon our global acceptance of this Word we are discussing. Will there ever be a global acceptance of the Gospel of peace. No, not according to the Word. But, peace will come. When peace comes, and it will, perhaps not in our lifetime, come when the Prince of Peace rules and reigns for ever upon this earth. When the righteous truly inherit the earth just as the Bible promises time and time again. When Jacobs Ladder extends from the New Earth to the New Heaven. Our healing. The healing of the nations blows in the breezes of the Holy Spirit among the leaves that proceed from Him, our Tree of Life.

mfblume
02-15-2008, 01:56 PM
I believe the 12 fruit are the teachings of the APOSTLES. They and the prophets gave the foundation, with Christ the chief cornerstone. They are FRUIT OF LIFE. Wisdom and teachings.

And the LEAVES are the gifts of the Spirit -- for healing, etc.

Neck
02-15-2008, 04:08 PM
Does anybody have any thoughts about what the tree of life is or what the 12 fruit on the tree of life are?

To be honest I am wanting to discuss this from a preterist point of view.

Could the tree of life symbolize the Cross. The 12 fruits symbolize the 12 tribes?

I would like to know what other theologians had to say.

I have teachings from my dad on tape.

I will listhen to them and see his thoughts..

Then I can share one point of view.

Now you have me interested...

mfblume
02-15-2008, 04:41 PM
A key to understanding the tree of life, is firstly, obvious. It is from the Garden of Eden. The garden became a city. The river is there, and the precious stones and gold that were in the four tributary rivers.

But Psalm 1 and Ezekiel 47 provide more keys.

Psalm 1 notes the very two things Rev 22 stresses. Fruit and leaves. And Psalm says SAINTS are the tree planted by waters.

Psalms 1:1-6 KJV Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (2) But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. (3) And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. (4) The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. (5) Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. (6) For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

The SAINTS are said to ever be, while sinners are blown away like chaff.

Ezek 47 parallels Rev 22:

Ezekiel 47:12 KJV And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

Revelation 22:2 KJV In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.


Instead of the river flowing from the TEMPLE in Ezekiel....

Ezekiel 47:1 KJV Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.

...it flows from God and the Lamb in Rev 22:

Revelation 22:1 KJV And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.


But the answer is clear! GOD AND THE LAMB ARE THE TEMPLE.

Revelation 21:22 KJV And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

So, the TREE IS CHRIST AND THE CHURCH.

mfblume
02-15-2008, 04:45 PM
A powerful connection of Psalm 1 and Ezekiel 47, which would tie it to rev 22, is that the Psalm lists PROGRESSIONS of sin amd a note of how SAINTS DO NOT go that way.

Psalms 1:1 KJV Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.


WALK, STAND, SIT.

Notice these:

Ezekiel 47:3-5 KJV And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles. (4) Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins. (5) Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over.

ANKLES, KNEES, LOINS.

We WALK with ankles.

We STAND with knees.

We SIT with loins.

So the saint who allows the SPIRIT River to influence his/her life, WILL NOT walk, stand and sit in the sinful progression we read in Psalm 1. So he will be like a tree planted by waters.

It clearly points to the CHURCH IN Christ, I believe.

Isaiah 61:3 KJV To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.


I got into this here at this thread: http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=3730