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Digging4Truth
03-14-2007, 01:04 PM
The statement below was posted by Chan in another thread. When I saw the post I knew I wanted to start this thread because I have been thinking about this subject for the last few days.

Maybe if churches would stop using evangelists for preaching to the saints who have no business being in need of reviving they wouldn't be under so much stress. The job of the evangelist is to go out and evangelize, i.e. reach the lost - not to wake up sleeping Christians or resurrect spiritually dead ones.

What is an evangelist?

Do we have any biblical or even historical evidence concerning what made one an evangelist?

tbpew
03-14-2007, 01:06 PM
one who heralds the evangel.
one who proclaims the good news.

Digging4Truth
03-14-2007, 01:09 PM
one who heralds the evangel.
one who proclaims the good news.

Cool... that certainly moves in the direction of what Chan was stating...

Do you feel that the manner in which evangelists are used today is in keeping with the original intent and role of the evangelist of the early church (the time of the apostles)

Digging4Truth
03-14-2007, 01:11 PM
Lexicon Entry
1) a bringer of good tidings, an evangelist
2) the name given to the NT heralds of salvation through Christ who are not apostles

Chan
03-14-2007, 01:12 PM
Since you quoted my post, you have my answer. :)

The Greek word translated "evangelist" in Acts, Ephesians and 2 Timothy is Euaggelistes and it is correctly translated. It has the following definitions:


a bringer of good tidings, an evangelist
the name given to the NT heralds of salvation through Christ who are not apostlesThe evangelist is directly tied to communicating the gospel message to the lost. Euaggelistes, euaggelizo, euaggelion, and proeuaggelizomai are all used in scripture in connection with communicating the gospel. It is man-made tradition that brought evangelists into the churches to preach to Christians who had no business being spiritually asleep or dead.

tbpew
03-14-2007, 01:20 PM
Cool... that certainly moves in the direction of what Chan was stating...

Do you feel that the manner in which evangelists are used today is in keeping with the original intent and role of the evangelist of the early church (the time of the apostles)

No. In my limited experience with those who were presented as the "evangelist" I did not come away with a sense that the good news had just been heralded. jI suppose aspects of "casting of bread upon the water" may have been accomplished, I'm not really sure now as I think about these occassions.

We are all to do the work of the evangelist.
We are all to be ready to answer any question.
Testimonies seem to have a direct relation to overcoming this present world.

We are, afterall, members in the body of CHRIST, the fullfillment of the prophetic purpose...that we would be a nation of priests.

sorry if this is more commentary then you wanted (imagine that coming from me!:toofunny )

Digging4Truth
03-14-2007, 01:46 PM
No sir.... exactly the depth of answer I was seeking...

Several thoughts come to mind as I read your post....

1. It appears that an evanglist was supposed to be an "outward" ministry and it has become an "inward" ministry which hopes to, as the icing on the cake, have visitors come and possibly be saved. This seems to be in keeping with the trend of the church as a whole turning more inward rather than outward in its operations. The church becomes more of a inner christian based world where they can do everything from go to church to eat to go bowling without having to dirty themselves with the world. Then the goal of the church becomes that of bringing others into our little church world rather than leaving our little church world and touching them.

2. I am reminded of a song I heard years ago and have never forgotten. The Chorus said "We've got to seek out the dry and arid places and stop this hauling water to the sea". So true...

tbpew
03-14-2007, 01:50 PM
No sir.... exactly the depth of answer I was seeking...

Several thoughts come to mind as I read your post....

1. It appears that an evanglist was supposed to be an "outward" ministry and it has become an "inward" ministry which hopes to, as the icing on the cake, have visitors come and possibly be saved. This seems to be in keeping with the trend of the church as a whole turning more inward rather than outward in its operations. The church becomes more of a inner christian based world where they can do everything from go to church to eat to go bowling without having to dirty themselves with the world. Then the goal of the church becomes that of bringing others into our little church world rather than leaving our little church world and touching them.

2. I am reminded of a song I heard years ago and have never forgotten. The Chorus said "We've got to seek out the dry and arid places and stop this hauling water to the sea". So true...

distance/seperation does seem to be systemic in our mode of operation.

I am hopeful that my own livingroom will become more and more a place where distances between me and my neighbors, friends and brethren can be made very, very, small.

Digging4Truth
03-14-2007, 01:54 PM
distance/seperation does seem to be systemic in our mode of operation.

I am hopeful that my own livingroom will become more and more a place where distances between me and my neighbors, friends and brethren can be made very, very, small.

Yes sir.. on the issue of the church turning inward rather than maintaining the outward direction initially set for the church I am reminded of a writing I posted sometime back on this subject.

The writing was entitled "Tornadoes & Floods"

I visited a website today for a large pentecostal church. There were links to the youth department, the music m inistry, the singles department, kids department, ladies deaprtment, mens department, married department and the list goes on.

They seem to have something for everybody. I would imagine that most that visit this church website would be impressed with how involved the church is in ministry at various levels. I know there was a time that I would have been. But when I saw all of these different ministries what I saw was multiple compartments within a local assembly constantly busying the people with being a part of that local assembly.

It seems these days that the local assembly becomes an entity of its own whose purpose is to bring people into their group.

You might respond "Well isn't that what we are supposed to be doing? Bringing people into the church?" Well... yeah. That is what we are supposed to be doing but what I see is more a process of bringing people into that local assembly.

The local assembly, rustling and bustling with activity, works to assimilate as many people as possible from the sorrounding communities and then as numbers increase they are able to further increase the number of activities that busy the members as they try to take in more members.

That system resembles a tornado to me. (minus the destruction part) A vortex that starts out small and builds power and as it builds it continues to pull things inside that swirl of activity.

But in my minds eye the NT church that the apostles were a part of was less a vortex of activity sucking people in than it was a flood that continually extended itself outward. It seems like the church should revolve less around the local assembly and continual ministry to each other and more on a local group of people who, of course, minister to each other when needs arise but is founded on external ministry.

I think much of the need for internal ministry could be the result of lack of external ministry. Those who make it a continual practice to minister others generally need less personal minstering. Those who constantly need personal ministering seem to only need more as time goes on.

That could very well come from our God given design to have a very real need to reach out and minister to others. Why do millionaires involve themselves in various charitible organizations? Tax breaks play in the reasoning for sure but I think a lot of it is that we have a need to feel useful and to have a purpose.

Once you have a couple dozen million laying around the daily satisfaction of meeting the needs of your family is no longer ever present. What do you do to have purpose and significance in this world? You minister to people because that is what we were born to do.

So I think there is a need to minister to others born into each of us. Saints who are weak and need constant minstering could very well be the result of a ministryless local assembly. Or even worse, a local assembly whose main focus is to minister to itself.

It is said that a cyclical storm such as a tornado or a hurricane can only reach a certain level of strength and then the forces that gave it power then begin to spin apart and the system just falls apart. Much like an ice skater who spins in a circle on the ice can reach a certain velocity and then they begin to spin their own arms away from their body and their very speed causes them to slow down again.

A flood just keeps going as long as their is water to cover the land.

I pray that the church would begin to experience a paradigm shift away from self ministry and move towards a paradigm of external ministry and growth. I have heard all my life that "this church is bigger than these 4 walls". I pray that the body of Christ will begin to understand that on a level that we have never understood it before.

Digging4Truth
03-14-2007, 09:49 PM
I've been doing some more thinking on the subject.

My little thoughts for the night seem to go along the lines of different types of ministries involved in those mentioned in Ephesians 4.

Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

It appears that there was one ministry that was an inter-congregational. That of the apostle. As I currently understand it the apostles ministered largely to the elders in the various congregations to help answer their questions etc. This ministry operated between the congregations as a support to the overall church.

There appear to be three intra-congregational ministries. The pastors, teachers & prophets. While I am not real sure about prophets I am including it in this group until I learn otherwise. These ministers were for the perfecting of the saints on a local level. The did so with the support of the apostolic ministry helping & advising along the way.

Then there was one extra-congregational ministry. That was the office of the evangelist. An evangelist was one who proclaimed the gospel to those outside the church. The fruit of the evangelists labor became part of the gatherings and then experienced the intra-congregational ministries of pastor, teacher & prophet which all worked, again, with the inter-congregational support of the apostles.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this?

Does this fit your picture of the working of the various ministries?

If so do you have anything to add?

If not... could you share why you disagree?

Pastor Keith
03-14-2007, 10:29 PM
The statement below was posted by Chan in another thread. When I saw the post I knew I wanted to start this thread because I have been thinking about this subject for the last few days.



What is an evangelist?

Do we have any biblical or even historical evidence concerning what made one an evangelist?

Someone said recently that many in ministry don't have any idea of their calling, somewhere around 80% or more.


The problem with most apostolic movements is that in reality they only recognize 2 offices, a pastor and a man who travels which we call a evangelist, but in many ways most likely isn't.

It is about time that we embrace the whole five fold ministry.

Felicity
03-14-2007, 10:53 PM
distance/seperation does seem to be systemic in our mode of operation.

I am hopeful that my own livingroom will become more and more a place where distances between me and my neighbors, friends and brethren can be made very, very, small.This is good!

Praxeas
03-14-2007, 11:45 PM
ISBE
Evangelist

ē̇-van´jel-ist: This is a form of the word ordinarily translated “gospel” (εὐαγγέλιον, euaggélion), except that here it designates one who announces that gospel to others (εὐαγγελιστής, euaggelistḗs, “a bringer of good tidings”), literally, God Himself is an evangelist, for He “preached the gospel beforehand unto Abraham” (Gal_3:8); Jesus Christ was an evangelist, for He also “preached the gospel” (Luk_20:1); Paul was an evangelist as well as an apostle (Rom_1:15); Philip the deacon was an evangelist (Act_21:8); and Timothy, the pastor (2Ti_4:5); and indeed all the early disciples who, on being driven out of Jerusalem, “went everywhere preaching the word” (Act_8:4 the King James Version).

But Eph_4:11 teaches that one particular order of the ministry, distinguished from every other, is singled out by the Head of the church for this work in a distinctive sense. All may possess the gift of an evangelist in a measure, and be obligated to exercise its privilege and duty, but some are specially endued with it. “He gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers.”

It will be seen that as an order in the ministry, the evangelist precedes that of the pastor and teacher, a fact which harmonizes with the character of the work each is still recognized as doing. The evangelist has no fixed place of residence, but moves about in different localities, preaching the gospel to those ignorant of it before. As these are converted and united to Jesus Christ by faith, the work of the pastor and teacher begins, to instruct them further in the things of Christ and build them up in the faith.

At a later time, the name of “evangelist” was given the writers of the four Gospels because they tell the story of the gospel and because the effect of their promulgation at the beginning was very much like the work of the preaching evangelist. In character, the Gospels bear something of the same relation to the Epistles as evangelists bear to pastors and teachers.

Digging4Truth
03-15-2007, 06:35 AM
Someone said recently that many in ministry don't have any idea of their calling, somewhere around 80% or more.


The problem with most apostolic movements is that in reality they only recognize 2 offices, a pastor and a man who travels which we call a evangelist, but in many ways most likely isn't.

It is about time that we embrace the whole five fold ministry.

Yes sir... as I mature in Christ I find that many prayers I have prayed all my life (and never seen an answer to) were being prayed in a certain level of ignorance concerning the subject of the prayer.

I have prayed for the last 35 years that we would see all of the various ministries at work in the local congregation. I am beginning to see that it was needful that I gain a clearer understand of exactly what those ministries are to accomplish. When God does a work He does it in accordance to His word and my understanding may, often, need to be enlightened as part of the fulfillment of that prayer.

So... in all of His patience and love, God is still in a 35 year journey to answer my prayer.

I begin to see also that the fulflling of my prayer that all the ministries be at work in the local gathering is not just something we pray that God "do". But, more than I had previously thought, has some to do with us simply finding where we are best adapted to work in the local gathering and becoming part of one (or more) of those ministries.

In the meantime... we do what we can all do... and do the work of an evanglist.

Digging4Truth
03-15-2007, 06:37 AM
Originally Posted by tbpew View Post
distance/seperation does seem to be systemic in our mode of operation.

I am hopeful that my own livingroom will become more and more a place where distances between me and my neighbors, friends and brethren can be made very, very, small.

So true... when I finish properly closing my obligations with the church I have been preaching weekends at I plan to begin doing the very same thing bro.

I think... after decades of preparation...I am getting ready to wade out into the shallows of such a scenario.

Digging4Truth
03-15-2007, 06:45 AM
ISBE
Evangelist

ē̇-van´jel-ist: This is a form of the word ordinarily translated “gospel” (εὐαγγέλιον, euaggélion), except that here it designates one who announces that gospel to others (εὐαγγελιστής, euaggelistḗs, “a bringer of good tidings”), literally, God Himself is an evangelist, for He “preached the gospel beforehand unto Abraham” (Gal_3:8); Jesus Christ was an evangelist, for He also “preached the gospel” (Luk_20:1); Paul was an evangelist as well as an apostle (Rom_1:15); Philip the deacon was an evangelist (Act_21:8); and Timothy, the pastor (2Ti_4:5); and indeed all the early disciples who, on being driven out of Jerusalem, “went everywhere preaching the word” (Act_8:4 the King James Version).

But Eph_4:11 teaches that one particular order of the ministry, distinguished from every other, is singled out by the Head of the church for this work in a distinctive sense. All may possess the gift of an evangelist in a measure, and be obligated to exercise its privilege and duty, but some are specially endued with it. “He gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers.”

It will be seen that as an order in the ministry, the evangelist precedes that of the pastor and teacher, a fact which harmonizes with the character of the work each is still recognized as doing. The evangelist has no fixed place of residence, but moves about in different localities, preaching the gospel to those ignorant of it before. As these are converted and united to Jesus Christ by faith, the work of the pastor and teacher begins, to instruct them further in the things of Christ and build them up in the faith.

At a later time, the name of “evangelist” was given the writers of the four Gospels because they tell the story of the gospel and because the effect of their promulgation at the beginning was very much like the work of the preaching evangelist. In character, the Gospels bear something of the same relation to the Epistles as evangelists bear to pastors and teachers.

Thanks... very thorough.

The last paragraph is in line with another place that stated an evanglist was one who proclaimed the gospel but was not an apostle. Meaning, to me, that an apostle was also doing the work of an evanglist as well but most often referred to in their apostolic function.

So it seems pretty clear that todays understanding of an evanglist has differed somewhat from the original understanding. The evanglist was one who delivered the gospel to those who had not yet heard it rather than a "revivalist" or a "revival bringer" type capacity that is so often expected today.

Chan
03-15-2007, 09:08 AM
I've been doing some more thinking on the subject.

My little thoughts for the night seem to go along the lines of different types of ministries involved in those mentioned in Ephesians 4.

Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

It appears that there was one ministry that was an inter-congregational. That of the apostle. As I currently understand it the apostles ministered largely to the elders in the various congregations to help answer their questions etc. This ministry operated between the congregations as a support to the overall church.

There appear to be three intra-congregational ministries. The pastors, teachers & prophets. While I am not real sure about prophets I am including it in this group until I learn otherwise. These ministers were for the perfecting of the saints on a local level. The did so with the support of the apostolic ministry helping & advising along the way.

Then there was one extra-congregational ministry. That was the office of the evangelist. An evangelist was one who proclaimed the gospel to those outside the church. The fruit of the evangelists labor became part of the gatherings and then experienced the intra-congregational ministries of pastor, teacher & prophet which all worked, again, with the inter-congregational support of the apostles.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this?

Does this fit your picture of the working of the various ministries?

If so do you have anything to add?

If not... could you share why you disagree?
Apostles were what we call "missionaries" today: they go to a place, preach the gospel, plant the local church, train and set in place the pastor and elders, and then go on to another location to do the same thing.

There is some question as to what prophets are supposed to do. I'm inclined to believe they're the ones who should be preaching "revival" to sleeping and dead churches. I'm inclined to look to prophets such as Agabus in the book of Acts for an example of how prophets in the Church are supposed to function. When Paul was called to his first missionary journey, the account in Acts tells us that there were prophets and there were teachers in the church at Antioch and that these men were fasting and praying. Paul was one of them. The Holy Ghost instructed them to set Paul apart and send him out to the work. So, prophets appear to have some involvement in calling people to specific ministry.

I agree that the evangelist's work is outside of the local church, though he is accountable to the particular local church from which he is sent.

Joelel
03-15-2007, 02:01 PM
Someone said recently that many in ministry don't have any idea of their calling, somewhere around 80% or more.


The problem with most apostolic movements is that in reality they only recognize 2 offices, a pastor and a man who travels which we call a evangelist, but in many ways most likely isn't.

It is about time that we embrace the whole five fold ministry.

Hi Keith,Your right. An other thing to look at is the word teaches the Apostles and Prophets are the foundation of the Church and Jesus the Chif corner stone.How can we have a true church without the foundation? Also the Apostles started the church assemblies and then appointed Pastors,Elders,Bishops over each assembly and kept head athority over the churches he started.There are suppose to be Apostles and prophets to every assembly.Also the people in the assemblies never voted in and out who they wanted for a pastor. The bottom line is the Church is a big mess.

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04-17-2009, 05:44 AM
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shawndell
04-17-2009, 06:36 AM
I always thaught that a evangelist was someone who went out and compeld themto come in to the grace of Jesus and the faith of his teaching.Has any one had trouble getting the people here in America to come in and be saved??

Godsdrummer
05-01-2009, 09:37 PM
I think we hypothisize to much with out taking things in proper context.

Eph 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

First Paul says we are all given grace according to the measure of the gift of God.

Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

The way this is written is just like the gifts of the spirit. We are all to be used in the gifts of the spirit. We all have part of the gifts of the ministry. Note (he gave some to be apostles some to be prophets etc. As we grow in Christ we should all be used in the ministry in one of the five fold. We should be come leaders elders if you please as we grow in Christ. Jesus Christ is the head of the church or Kingdom of God not Pastors, Apostles etc.
Elders are given these gifts for the purpose listed below in verse 12.

Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

I like the nkjv for it uses equiping instead of the word perfecting, for the work of the ministry, G1248 ιακονία diakonia dee-ak-on-ee'-ah
From G1249; attendance (as a servant, etc.); figuratively (eleemosynary) aid, (official) service (especially of the Christian teacher.
We are all called to do the work of ministry. And for the edifying of the body of Christ. Once the saint has been equiped then we are to work to further the kingdom of God.

Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

I know I may not be explaining myself well here but I feel that the whole way we look at the ministry in the church today is all wrong. What we have is just a form of the preist hood of OT and Jesus did away with that when he became our high priest. The kingdom of God is to be a true theocracy Jesus being the king. If we note in Epesians

Eph 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

We don't find the ministry in the line of authority, We find Christ, then the husband then the wife, The church as a whole is subject to Christ and what is the church or body of Christ is it a group of people headed up by a leadership? or is it made up of familys that are saved following the leadership of Christ in thier lives with the aid of the gift of the apostle, prophets,evangelist, pastors and teachers. I contend God gave the church the ministry not the church to the ministry.

Sam
05-02-2009, 12:37 PM
The only person who is called an evangelist in our KJV NT is Philip (Acts 21:8).

Paul urged Timothy (an Apostle and Bishop) to "do the work of an evangelist" (2 Tim 4:5).

Jesus said He came to minister to the bankrupt, the broken hearted, the bound, the blind, and the bruised in Luke 4:19. He said He was anointed to preach the gospel (good news) to them.

I guess that's a definition of an evangelist.

In Acts 8 we are told about Philip's ministry in Samaria some time around winter AD 31/32 AD. He "preached Christ" unto them (verse 5). He performed miracles of healing and deliverance (verses 6, 7, and 13). His preaching and acts brought "great joy" to the city (verse 8). He preached "the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ" and folks got baptized in water (verse 12). Folks got saved (verse 12 says they believed and verse 14 says they had received the Word/Jesus) but they had not been baptized in the Spirit yet (verses 15-16). The Apostles John and Peter were sent from the Jerusalem Church (40 miles or a 2 day journey on foot) to minister the Holy Ghost Baptism by the laying on of hands (verses 17-19), the way the experience was ordinarily received).

Philip then was called to leave that "revival" and travel about 100 miles into the desert near Gaza. There he encountered an Ethiopian eunuch who was returning home from a trip to Jerusalem where he had worshiped. Philip approached him, engaged him in conversation, and at his invitation, "preached unto him Jesus" (verse 35). When they "came unto a certain water" (possibly the Wadi el-Hesi north of Gaza, the Ethiopian requested baptism. Either Philip had mentioned water baptism or the Ethiopian was requesting the mikveh ordinarily associated with Gentile conversion. After making sure that the Ethiopian was a believer, (that part is eliminated in some Bibles) Philip agreed (verses 36-37). Verses 38-39 continue "38 So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. 39 Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord fell upon the eunuch and the Angel of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus (Ashdod about 20 miles north of Gaza). And passing through, he preached in all the cities till he came to Caesarea." So in this case the Ethiopian received the Holy Ghost Baptism either while in the water or while getting out of the water.

So, based on Acts 8, what does an evangelist do?

MinisterShawnC
05-11-2009, 10:57 AM
The only person who is called an evangelist in our KJV NT is Philip (Acts 21:8).

Paul urged Timothy (an Apostle and Bishop) to "do the work of an evangelist" (2 Tim 4:5).

Jesus said He came to minister to the bankrupt, the broken hearted, the bound, the blind, and the bruised in Luke 4:19. He said He was anointed to preach the gospel (good news) to them.

I guess that's a definition of an evangelist.

In Acts 8 we are told about Philip's ministry in Samaria some time around winter AD 31/32 AD. He "preached Christ" unto them (verse 5). He performed miracles of healing and deliverance (verses 6, 7, and 13). His preaching and acts brought "great joy" to the city (verse 8). He preached "the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ" and folks got baptized in water (verse 12). Folks got saved (verse 12 says they believed and verse 14 says they had received the Word/Jesus) but they had not been baptized in the Spirit yet (verses 15-16). The Apostles John and Peter were sent from the Jerusalem Church (40 miles or a 2 day journey on foot) to minister the Holy Ghost Baptism by the laying on of hands (verses 17-19), the way the experience was ordinarily received).

Philip then was called to leave that "revival" and travel about 100 miles into the desert near Gaza. There he encountered an Ethiopian eunuch who was returning home from a trip to Jerusalem where he had worshiped. Philip approached him, engaged him in conversation, and at his invitation, "preached unto him Jesus" (verse 35). When they "came unto a certain water" (possibly the Wadi el-Hesi north of Gaza, the Ethiopian requested baptism. Either Philip had mentioned water baptism or the Ethiopian was requesting the mikveh ordinarily associated with Gentile conversion. After making sure that the Ethiopian was a believer, (that part is eliminated in some Bibles) Philip agreed (verses 36-37). Verses 38-39 continue "38 So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. 39 Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord fell upon the eunuch and the Angel of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus (Ashdod about 20 miles north of Gaza). And passing through, he preached in all the cities till he came to Caesarea." So in this case the Ethiopian received the Holy Ghost Baptism either while in the water or while getting out of the water.

So, based on Acts 8, what does an evangelist do?

You made it so plain and clear. The key is, how do you know exactly if you are a disciple (sheep) vs Apostle, Prophet, Pastor, Teacher, Evangelist? The Five Fold holds spiritual gifts that come with that office. Is that to say a lay member cannot operate in a spiritual gift? No, God can use anyone, but those in the fivefold ministry should be able to perform these at anytime.
So if they say they have the call of evangelist, then we should see the gifts of healing and working of miracles.
So if he told Timothy to do the "work" of evangelist, that means there is a spiritual gift that comes with that Office.

Sister Alvear
05-11-2009, 11:08 AM
:clap:shockamoo






Let me see...an evangelist pulls a travel trailer...with a super truck...


well...not quite....:thumbsup