View Full Version : Hilary talks about the Holy Spirit
Jack Shephard
03-06-2008, 07:19 PM
Have you all seen or heard this?
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/334482.aspx
It is definately interesting. Post what you all think!
scotty
03-06-2008, 07:32 PM
Scary
:covereyes:covereyes
Jack Shephard
03-06-2008, 07:37 PM
Scary
:covereyes:covereyes
She could be looking our way! LOL-J/K
seguidordejesus
03-06-2008, 07:37 PM
ok...
Jack Shephard
03-06-2008, 07:38 PM
ok...
Almost speachless 'Follower of Jesus'?
Kings Kid
03-06-2008, 07:39 PM
I hope not. But who knows.
A_PoMo
03-06-2008, 07:39 PM
Sister Hillary!
But can she do the shockamoo?
seguidordejesus
03-06-2008, 07:39 PM
Almost speachless 'Follower of Jesus'?
LOL
What does it mean when a politician says anything? Maybe they're telling the truth, but they lie often enough to make you doubt everything they say.
She could be looking our way! LOL-J/K
They have been "looking our way" for a long time...not just the Alexandria connection, but when they lived in AR they visited the UPCI on a regular basis.
This is fact...a friend of mine's momma attends there...
GodsBabyGirl
03-06-2008, 07:44 PM
I believe many on this earth have felt and experienced the presence of God in their lives.
I mean, Hillary was sitting right by Bill at the inauguration when Mickey Mangun ministered remember?
Only someone six feet under wouldn't have felt the presence of God!
The question is what you do after you have been in His Presence...?
And I can just picture Hillary doing the huckabuck...might outdance me y'all! :ursofunny
Jack Shephard
03-06-2008, 07:48 PM
They have been "looking our way" for a long time...not just the Alexandria connection, but when they lived in AR they visited the UPCI on a regular basis.
This is fact...a friend of mine's momma attends there...
U R correct!
GodsBabyGirl
03-06-2008, 07:55 PM
JT
Delaney is adorable!
Jack Shephard
03-06-2008, 07:59 PM
JT
Delaney is adorable!
Thanks GBG. She is even better in person. Also she is much louder in person too. :runhills
Mrs. LPW
03-06-2008, 08:05 PM
Did anyone listen to the entire interview? I'm listening now.
George
03-06-2008, 08:16 PM
Why should we even entertain doubt about her coming our way? Miracles have not ceased. I would be thrilled to know she was baptized in Jesus' name and Holy Ghost filled.
Sweet Pea
03-06-2008, 08:34 PM
Did anyone listen to the entire interview? I'm listening now.
Yes, I listened to the entire interview..... Very interesting.... who would have thought that she ever taught a Bible lesson to anyone.... much less a Bible lesson on "forgiveness"
I was very surprised at some of her remarks.... May she REALLY is looking our way..... LOL :ursofunny
ChristopherHall
03-06-2008, 08:56 PM
President Bill Clinton has attended Apostolic camp meetings for an 11 year period earlier in his life. Bill Clinton was even part of an Apostolic quartet. The Clinton family has ties with the Manguns and the Manguns have counseled Hillary regarding Chelsea and after the affair the Manguns even visited and prayed with them as a family.
The odds of President Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary Clinton having had personal experience with the Holy Spirit, at the hands of an Apostolic family in ministry, is very good.
President Clinton's Pentecostal Connection
Anthony Mangun hasn't offered any campaign contributions, but he calls Bill Clinton a friend.
Bill Clinton's friends may come and go depending on the latest White House scandal. But regardless of the Whitewater investigation or the current uproar in Washington over campaign fund raising, the president knows he can always count on Anthony Mangun, a Oneness Pentecostal pastor who has offered the president unconditional friendship for 21 years.
The two men met in Arkansas when then-governor Clinton began paying annual visits to a Pentecostal camp meeting near Little Rock. Clinton went there to win votes, but he responded genuinely to the spirited music and preaching that always characterize United Pentecostal Church (UPC) gatherings.
According to Mangun, Clinton has had a soft spot for Pentecostals ever since.
"He loves our music. He loves connecting with Spirit-filled people," says Mangun, 47, now pastor of one of the largest UPC churches in the country, The Pentecostals of Alexandria in Alexandria, Louisiana.
Clinton's fondness for UPC music surfaced during his 1992 presidential campaign, when a reporter asked the saxophone-playing candidate about musical influences in his life. Clinton told Rolling Stone magazine: "I have a lot of friends in Pentecostal services, and a lot of their church music is some of the most awesome music I've ever heard. You just gasp when you hear it."
Clinton likes Mangun's music so much, in fact, that he asked his church's choir to perform at Inauguration Day events in 1993 and 1997. This year they sang "Lift Up Holy Hands" and "He's Faithful," led by Mangun's wife, Mickey, a popular UPC soloist.
Since Clinton's election, the Mangun family has visited the White House; Mangun has jogged and played golf with Bill; and his wife has had chances to chat with Hillary about the challenges of raising a teen-ager. Unlike some of Clinton's wealthy Asian visitors, the Manguns didn't pay a dime to the Democratic Party in exchange for their White House sleep-over. But Mangun has resolved to offer spiritual support even though he disagrees with some of Clinton's policies.
"The book of Romans says we are to support our leaders in prayer," the pastor told Charisma. "I feel I must stand with Bill Clinton and show love to him personally. If you are going to bash him, then stick with the issues--don't attack the individual."
Mangun has challenged Clinton on at least one occasion--when he urged him to reconsider his 1996 decision to allow partial-birth abortions. But the Louisiana preacher--with his boyish charm and Louisiana drawl--offers the president spiritual encouragement regularly. He won't divulge details about such conversations, but he says Clinton is a more spiritual man than most Christians imagine.
One evening in 1993, for example, the Manguns and the Clintons prayed and worshiped together around a White House piano. "Bill listens to our music tapes, and he asked Mickey to play some of our deep, worshipful songs," Mangun said. "I've seen him get very emotional."
Mangun thinks Clinton's interest in spiritual things began in the Arkansas camp-meeting days, when Clinton was known to spend long hours conversing with Robert Baehr, a UPC preacher. When Clinton was voted out as governor in 1980, UPC ministers, including Mickey's father, James Lumpkin, "reached out to him when other people in Little Rock would deliberately cross the street to avoid him," Mangun says.
Apparently Clinton doesn't forget a kindness. When he defeated George Bush in 1992, he invited the Manguns to Little Rock for a victory celebration.
And Clinton has made more than one stop at Mangun's church to catch a performance of The Messiah, an elaborate Easter pageant performed each year to sell-out crowds. Clinton and several White House staffers, including former Chief of Staff Leon Panetta, flew to Alexandria on Air Force One for a private performance in 1996.
Mangun says Clinton wept during the musical drama, which depicts the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ and includes a cast of 500 people and live animals. After the performance, UPC minister T.F. Tenney laid hands on the president and prayed for him.
Some ministers in central Louisiana have criticized Mangun for his chumminess with a president who favors abortion rights. But Mangun believes Clinton could use a friend who won't turn and run when the political favors run out.
"I didn't tell my congregation to vote for Bill Clinton. I didn't campaign for him. He knows I'm a conservative pastor," Mangun says. "But he also knows I'm a good friend."
A good friend who has the Holy Ghost. That might be the best friend any president could have. --J. Lee Grady, Charisma Magazine/June 1997
There's more to the Clintons and their spiritual experiences than most know.
Hmmmm. This is all very interesting. Maybe there's hope yet for the political elite.
OP_Carl
03-07-2008, 04:04 AM
President Bill Clinton has attended Apostolic camp meetings for an 11 year period earlier in his life. Bill Clinton was even part of an Apostolic quartet. The Clinton family has ties with the Manguns and the Manguns have counseled Hillary regarding Chelsea and after the affair the Manguns even visited and prayed with them as a family.
The odds of President Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary Clinton having had personal experience with the Holy Spirit, at the hands of an Apostolic family in ministry, is very good.
There's more to the Clintons and their spiritual experiences than most know.
Yes, possibly, but before we enter that voting booth, there is one question each of us MUST ask ourselves:
Can America afford it if Hillary backslides while in office?
:tissue
:toofunny
:hmmm
:huh
Why should we even entertain doubt about her coming our way? Miracles have not ceased. I would be thrilled to know she was baptized in Jesus' name and Holy Ghost filled.
Exactly!!
Jehoram
03-07-2008, 08:50 AM
Have you all seen or heard this?
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/334482.aspx
It is definately interesting. Post what you all think!
I completely disagree with Hillary's politics and theology but I think Hillary typifies the mainstream belief system of a large portion of Americans. It's an "I'm okay, you're okay" worldview.
I completely disagree with Hillary's politics and theology but I think Hillary typifies the mainstream belief system of a large portion of Americans. It's an "I'm okay, you're okay" worldview.
Yup. She is also reputed to have one of the foulest mouths in Washington. I heard the Fire Marshall at one event who was in a room with her (she apparently thought he was one of the Secret Service agents) say that her cursing would have made a drunken sailor on leave blush.
She was known for temper tantrums and throwing things in the White House when mad. Just the kind of temperment we want in a President.
Jack Shephard
03-07-2008, 09:59 AM
I completely disagree with Hillary's politics and theology but I think Hillary typifies the mainstream belief system of a large portion of Americans. It's an "I'm okay, you're okay" worldview.
Well said. I agree that alot of America are this way. Several reasons, but one of which may be the previous generations have been away from God and the somewhat newer generations or people for every generation are hungry for something different do not know about spiritual 'all you can eat buffets' they only see the 'drive thrus' if you know what I mean.
Yup. She is also reputed to have one of the foulest mouths in Washington. I heard the Fire Marshall at one event who was in a room with her (she apparently thought he was one of the Secret Service agents) say that her cursing would have made a drunken sailor on leave blush.
She was known for temper tantrums and throwing things in the White House when mad. Just the kind of temperment we want in a President.
CC1, I am not a fan of Hillary either. I am sure she is a dirty mouthed women. I mean look she has kiss Bill and not tell who he has kissed. I believe that in everyone there is the good/evil thing. All want to be good but being bad comes easier to some. JMHO
Mrs. LPW
03-07-2008, 10:11 AM
I completely disagree with Hillary's politics and theology but I think Hillary typifies the mainstream belief system of a large portion of Americans. It's an "I'm okay, you're okay" worldview.
Very true. There are quite a few who claim Christianity and at the same time don't believe Jesus' own claim that he was the Way, Truth and Life... only way to the Father...
What I found interesting in her interview was her statement that she believed the Bible was real... but somehow the verses about Jesus being the only Way are missed... or disregarded. She said people miss what the Bible was intended for... I think she has. :)
Rev Dooley
03-07-2008, 01:33 PM
President Bill Clinton has attended ...The odds of President Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary Clinton having had personal experience with the Holy Spirit, at the hands of an Apostolic family in ministry, is very good.Last I heard it was PRESIDENT George Bush. Clinton is no longer at the helm.
I believe that the angels are rejoicing over that fer shure!!!:amen:choir:choir
I no longer have to:lalalawhen he is talking
because:itsover
Mrs. LPW
03-07-2008, 01:35 PM
Last I heard it was PRESIDENT George Bush. Clinton is no longer at the helm.
I believe that the angels are rejoicing over that fer shure!!!:amen:choir:choir
I no longer have to:lalalawhen he is talking
because:itsover
I'm not from the USA.. but I thought you guys always called your Presidents, dead, alive, in or out of office.. by President so-in-so?
Rev Dooley
03-07-2008, 01:37 PM
I'm not from the USA.. but I thought you guys always called your Presidents, dead, alive, in or out of office.. by President so-in-so?Actually, it is correct to call them former president so & so.
I have never called Clinton president. He was too busy with his extramarital affairs to lead this country.
Mrs. LPW
03-07-2008, 01:42 PM
I completely understand what you are saying.
I did look online and found several sites that said Presidents retain their titles after leaving office. So the former poster was correct in calling President Clinton, President Clinton. (Just to picky lol... since I'm bored at the moment)
Rev Dooley
03-07-2008, 01:48 PM
I completely understand what you are saying.
I did look online and found several sites that said Presidents retain their titles after leaving office. So the former poster was correct in calling President Clinton, President Clinton. (Just to picky lol... since I'm bored at the moment)
WELL,
ALLRIGHTYTHEN!!!
:tantrum:gaga
Mrs. LPW
03-07-2008, 01:49 PM
WELL,
ALLRIGHTYTHEN!!!
:tantrum:gaga
HAHAHAAAAAAaa... I told ya I was bored.
Rev Dooley
03-07-2008, 01:51 PM
HAHAHAAAAAAaa... I told ya I was bored.Kinda figured you would like that.
Laughter is truly the best medicine. Much better than even herbs.
Posted in our house:
Live well. Laugh often. Love much.
It is true that fomrer Presidents are still referred to as "President _______" after they leave office. Like Tom Dooley it pains me to have to refer to Slick Willy by that title.
ChristopherHall
03-07-2008, 07:42 PM
Yup. She is also reputed to have one of the foulest mouths in Washington. I heard the Fire Marshall at one event who was in a room with her (she apparently thought he was one of the Secret Service agents) say that her cursing would have made a drunken sailor on leave blush.
That's true. She really does have issues with language at times.
She was known for temper tantrums and throwing things in the White House when mad.
Was she throwing things at Bill? This might be something in her favor. LOL
Just the kind of temperment we want in a President.
lol
I can see her at an elaborate dinner with foreign dignitaries and suddenly she starts cussing out Putin and throws her drink in the face of his defense minister.
ChristopherHall
03-07-2008, 07:44 PM
I'm not from the USA.. but I thought you guys always called your Presidents, dead, alive, in or out of office.. by President so-in-so?
We do, even if we don't like them. But I guess in informal conversation it's not necessary.
aquestioninggirl
03-08-2008, 06:31 PM
Scary
:covereyes:covereyes
She never looked impressed to me at camp meeting. she and Chelsey always sat on the platform looking scared.
Simon the sorcerer spoke of the holy ghost too-something to consider.:hypercoffee
Michael The Disciple
03-08-2008, 10:18 PM
Im all for loving her and befriending to the degree it is possible. But to vote for anyone who pushes abortion AND the sodomite agenda is unthinkable.
chosenbyone
03-09-2008, 12:05 AM
She could be looking our way! LOL-J/K
Well, from what I read in the article, she seemed more Apostolic than McCain! :winkgrin
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