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COOPER
03-07-2008, 07:06 AM
Do you automatically trust a man that is a Preacher or Pastor?
Jesus said beware of False prophets...
Do not trust any one just because he is a "Man Of God" .
Mrs. LPW
03-07-2008, 07:07 AM
Hahahahahahaaaaaaaa
No.
Of course I don't trust someone who calls himself a preacher just because he's a preacher.
MissBrattified
03-07-2008, 07:37 AM
No.
Digging4Truth
03-07-2008, 07:38 AM
Nope.
No...so why are you asking?!
No...so why are you asking?!
To get sunthin started!! Why else? :D
StillStanding
03-07-2008, 07:46 AM
In my business, some of our worse dealings are with preachers! :)
freeatlast
03-07-2008, 08:00 AM
My first thought would be to be cautious (distrust) till I see the fruits of his calling.
GodsBabyGirl
03-07-2008, 08:11 AM
My experience(s) has taught me NOT to automatically trust anyone who calls themself a preacher...
As a matter of fact, the exact opposite occurs most of the time. I goes a running.
Trust was to be earned...and even then I only give it in measure...
Just being honest...
GodsBabyGirl
03-07-2008, 08:13 AM
Not to insinuate that there are no trustworthy preachers out there. They are out there.
Ultimately, we have to place our 100% trust in God, not flesh.
Flesh fails, God doesn't....
LadyChocolate
03-07-2008, 08:32 AM
Not to insinuate that there are no trustworthy preachers out there. They are out there.
Ultimately, we have to place our 100% trust in God, not flesh.
Flesh fails, God doesn't....
That's right! I put my trust in preachers and have been let down.... Now, my trust is in God and I realize the preachers are as human as I am... They are going to make mistakes just like I am....
In answer to the question, no, I do not trust someone just because he says he's a preacher.... but I have a loooooooong list of great men of God who have proven themselves to be true to God! I trust them.........but I don't put them on a pedestal......
DividedThigh
03-07-2008, 08:46 AM
simple answer,nope, dt
Hmmm.....a negative thread about preachers authored by COOP. How predictable.
The Mrs
03-07-2008, 09:10 AM
I'm going to go against the grain and say yes. I DO automatically trust a minister.
There are certain expectations associated with the office that should draw us into a trusting relationship just as you would automatically trust a police officer, a judge, or a doctor.
With age comes wisdom and life experiences that NOW tell me, I can trust to a certain degree, but keep my eyes wide open. :winkgrin
Joelel
03-07-2008, 09:13 AM
Do you automatically trust a man that is a Preacher or Pastor?
Jesus said beware of False prophets...
Do not trust any one just because he is a "Man Of God" .
Well,if he's a false preacher,he's not a man of God
Cindy
03-07-2008, 09:14 AM
No.
chosenbyone
03-07-2008, 09:19 AM
Preachers are people and they should earn trust like anyone else.
Joelel
03-07-2008, 09:20 AM
No,I trust no person,only God
Mrs. LPW
03-07-2008, 09:36 AM
In my business, some of our worse dealings are with preachers! :)
Hearin' ya. :)
Mrs. LPW
03-07-2008, 09:38 AM
Hmmm.....a negative thread about preachers authored by COOP. How predictable.
My hubby's a preacher, although working secular at the moment... and neither of us trust all preachers. :) Course, if this were to become a preacher bashing thread I'd be out like a light...
I think the Mrs. has it right... eyes open! (and that goes for anyone in a position of authority... )
I don't look for the bad in preachers, lawyers or anyone else, but it's only wise to be careful. There are men who only masquerade as Godly men and Godly preachers... I'm glad I don't know any personally!!! The Bible refers to them as wolves in sheeps clothing.
COOPER
03-07-2008, 10:17 AM
I'm going to go against the grain and say yes. I DO automatically trust a minister.
There are certain expectations associated with the office that should draw us into a trusting relationship just as you would automatically trust a police officer, a judge, or a doctor.
With age comes wisdom and life experiences that NOW tell me, I can trust to a certain degree, but keep my eyes wide open. :winkgrin
My hubby's a preacher, although working secular at the moment... and neither of us trust all preachers. :) Course, if this were to become a preacher bashing thread I'd be out like a light...
I think the Mrs. has it right... eyes open! (and that goes for anyone in a position of authority... )
I don't look for the bad in preachers, lawyers or anyone else, but it's only wise to be careful. There are men who only masquerade as Godly men and Godly preachers... I'm glad I don't know any personally!!! The Bible refers to them as wolves in sheeps clothing.
Two great post!
I have to admit that I automatically trust the position of a Pastor or police officer....
But I have to remind my self they are just men.
COOPER
03-07-2008, 10:22 AM
Pastor I am going to trust you, but I have my eyes on you boy! LOL!
TRFrance
03-07-2008, 10:23 AM
If he's Apostolic, i'll trust him until he gives me reason not to.
Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?
If he's not apostolic...well, that's another story. Even more so if he doesnt even have the Holy Ghost.
Cindy
03-07-2008, 10:24 AM
yeah, yeah, yeah, whatEVER we don't automatically trust anyone named Cooper either.................:D
Mrs. LPW
03-07-2008, 10:25 AM
If he's Apostolic, i'll trust him until he gives me reason not to.
Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?
If he's not apostolic...well, that's another story. Even more so if he doesnt even have the Holy Ghost.
TR, there are some men and woman who have not yet seen the Oneness or Baptism in Jesus name who are very good and trustworthy people... people I would trust my life with if I had to. (Not my spiritual life, mind you.)
COOPER
03-07-2008, 10:28 AM
yeah, yeah, yeah, whatEVER we don't automatically trust anyone named Cooper either.................:D
AMEN!!!!!............:friend That right there is funny, I don't care who you are!
Cindy
03-07-2008, 10:28 AM
TR, there are some men and woman who have not yet seen the Oneness or Baptism in Jesus name who are very good and trustworthy people... people I would trust my life with if I had to.
Amen!
LadyChocolate
03-07-2008, 10:37 AM
If he's Apostolic, i'll trust him until he gives me reason not to.
Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?
If he's not apostolic...well, that's another story. Even more so if he doesnt even have the Holy Ghost.
As for me, this is how I see it! I can give anyone a chance.... But it doesn't take long for truth to come out.... I can't tell you how many times I have met or heard preachers and instantly I have felt vibes.... Sometimes their is something about that preacher or even person for that matter, something that I really like...... Then their are times when I don't care what they claim to be, some give me the willies! I usually take someone's word at first but it really doesn't take long for their actions to speak louder than their words....
Mrs. LPW
03-07-2008, 10:40 AM
As for me, this is how I see it! I can give anyone a chance.... But it doesn't take long for truth to come out.... I can't tell you how many times I have met or heard preachers and instantly I have felt vibes.... Sometimes their is something about that preacher or even person for that matter, something that I really like...... Then their are times when I don't care what they claim to be, some give me the willies! I usually take someone's word at first but it really doesn't take long for their actions to speak louder than their words....
I concur!
I find it's like this with all people... preachers and laymen and sinners alike.
Two great post!
I have to admit that I automatically trust the position of a Pastor or police officer....
But I have to remind my self they are just men.
You have hit upon an important thought. People need to find that place where they respect and trust the office of Pastor but not blindly.
Some people, especially those who have been "burned" by a bad apples in the past, tend to get cynical and look at all preachers with distrust and cynicism. That is just as wrong as the actions of a bad preacher himself.
I try to approach those in ministry with respect and admiration until proven otherwise. However I do not blindly trust any human being nor do I think God expects us to. People that do that sometime end up in far off African countries drinking Kool Aid laced with poison!
LadyChocolate
03-07-2008, 10:54 AM
You have hit upon an important thought. People need to find that place where they respect and trust the office of Pastor but not blindly.
Some people, especially those who have been "burned" by a bad apples in the past, tend to get cynical and look at all preachers with distrust and cynicism. That is just as wrong as the actions of a bad preacher himself.
I try to approach those in ministry with respect and admiration until proven otherwise. However I do not blindly trust any human being nor do I think God expects us to. People that do that sometime end up in far off African countries drinking Kool Aid laced with poison!
How true and sad! I myself have been there too! I trusted preachers all my life and then we were really hurt by a pastor.... It was crazy and in my hurt I put all preachers into one category and thought that if this one man that I trusted did this, then others will also.... God really worked me over because my attitude was not right! God restored my faith in preachers.... Now I just don't put them on a pedestal. I do remember that they too, make mistakes...... Some mistakes I over look, some I just cannot over look!
How true and sad! I myself have been there too! I trusted preachers all my life and then we were really hurt by a pastor.... It was crazy and in my hurt I put all preachers into one category and thought that if this one man that I trusted did this, then others will also.... God really worked me over because my attitude was not right! God restored my faith in preachers.... Now I just don't put them on a pedestal. I do remember that they too, make mistakes...... Some mistakes I over look, some I just cannot over look!
Many many years ago my mother was betrayed by a preacher she had counseled with as things she had told him in private made their way around the church. I don't think she ever got over it even though the pastor that suceeded that one was a wonderful man that she loved and did trust.
commonsense
03-07-2008, 11:10 AM
To answer the original question.... NO
A_PoMo
03-07-2008, 11:37 AM
To answer the question...absolutely, unqualified YES! If the man is a preacher he MUST be honest and good. I just hand over my wallet and my brain and sit down and await my orders like all good saints should do.
A_PoMo
03-07-2008, 11:39 AM
You have hit upon an important thought. People need to find that place where they respect and trust the office of Pastor but not blindly.
Some people, especially those who have been "burned" by a bad apples in the past, tend to get cynical and look at all preachers with distrust and cynicism. That is just as wrong as the actions of a bad preacher himself.
This is true. I struggle with this myself. I've been burned by three different pastors. My current pastor is a good man and affirms me left and right. But I find it difficult to trust him and I'm waiting for the other foot to fall.
Jack Shephard
03-07-2008, 11:41 AM
Absolutely not! I used to and got burned. I liken it to a story about a wolf in sheeps clothing. Gotta make sure a sheep is a sheep and not sheepish-wolf.
LadyChocolate
03-07-2008, 11:42 AM
I do want to say here for all you preachers out there that are doing your best to serve God, THANK YOU! I appreciate your time and effort that you put into God's kingdom... Where it seems like many have no respect and look for threads to jump in a bash the preacher, I want you to know you have respect!!!!! While I do not believe that all preachers are real men of God, I do have the upmost respect to the true men of God...
I heard an old timer say once, "Some are called, some are sent, and some just packed up and went"..... that about sums it up!!! LOL
Praxeas
03-07-2008, 12:02 PM
Do you automatically trust a man that is a Preacher or Pastor?
Jesus said beware of False prophets...
Do not trust any one just because he is a "Man Of God" .
No. First of all there is no office in the bible called Preacher. A preacher was someone that proclaimed the gospel and they did that out on the streets, not before a pulpit where the so called sheeple are bringing in the sinners....a preacher went OUT to where the sinners were at on the street and told them about Jesus.
Jack Shephard
03-07-2008, 12:24 PM
If he's Apostolic, i'll trust him until he gives me reason not to.
Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?
If he's not apostolic...well, that's another story. Even more so if he doesnt even have the Holy Ghost.
Because someone is OP or not OP does not make them trustworthy. Infact, I know some OP's that are WAY less trustworthy than non-OP's. I am not speaking for all but for some I know. Also having the HG does not automatically make someone trustworthy either side they are on. I start by trusting the mans word, if he breaks it he ain't worth his salt. That goes for any denomination.
Kings Kid
03-07-2008, 12:38 PM
It usually takes me awhile before I can trust a preacher.
TRFrance
03-07-2008, 07:01 PM
Because someone is OP or not OP does not make them trustworthy. Infact, I know some OP's that are WAY less trustworthy than non-OP's. I am not speaking for all but for some I know. Also having the HG does not automatically make someone trustworthy either side they are on. I start by trusting the mans word, if he breaks it he ain't worth his salt. That goes for any denomination.
Yes, JT. I'm certainly aware of that.
I'm not saying an Apostolic is necessarily trustworthy just because hes an OP. But Im simply saying I'd have more reason to believe this person is trustworthy (and remember the original question was about preachers), being Apostolic, than if he was, say, Baptist or Methodist.
RandyWayne
03-07-2008, 07:10 PM
Because someone is OP or not OP does not make them trustworthy. Infact, I know some OP's that are WAY less trustworthy than non-OP's. I am not speaking for all but for some I know. Also having the HG does not automatically make someone trustworthy either side they are on. I start by trusting the mans word, if he breaks it he ain't worth his salt. That goes for any denomination.
A complete side thought: I think the most trustworthy person you will ever meet on this planet is someone who just received the Holy Ghost within the past 24-48 hours. Honestly, if there was ever a time that I was probably sinless in my life, it was during those first few days.
Carry on....
TalkLady
03-07-2008, 07:34 PM
Do you automatically trust a man that is a Preacher or Pastor?
Jesus said beware of False prophets...
Do not trust any one just because he is a "Man Of God" .
Absolutely not - not just because someone calls himself a preacher. I am struggling with trusting someone as a pastor. We recently started attending another church and the pastor has given me no reason to distrust him but it is hard to begin in a new church and trust the pastor or the saints. Back wounds and a wounded spirit don't always heal so easily. Pray that I can trust again.
Jack Shephard
03-07-2008, 07:35 PM
A complete side thought: I think the most trustworthy person you will ever meet on this planet is someone who just received the Holy Ghost within the past 24-48 hours. Honestly, if there was ever a time that I was probably sinless in my life, it was during those first few days.
Carry on....
:iagree
I would think that this is the time when someone is the most honest. I say that cause they have been honest with God in order to repent. The act of repentance is a powerful thing. It makes you be honest.
Jack Shephard
03-07-2008, 07:37 PM
Absolutely not - not just because someone calls himself a preacher. I am struggling with trusting someone as a pastor. We recently started attending another church and the pastor has given me no reason to distrust him but it is hard to begin in a new church and trust the pastor or the saints. Back wounds and a wounded spirit don't always heal so easily. Pray that I can trust again.
TL have you read the book 'Tale of Three Kings' by Gene Edwards? If not get it. It is about 100 pages and I promise it will change your life if you allow God to work through it. The book is great to help deal with hurt especially from the ministry. It is worth every penny. I am sure everyone that has read it will Ditto me on this.
TalkLady
03-07-2008, 07:38 PM
:iagree
I would think that this is the time when someone is the most honest. I say that cause they have been honest with God in order to repent. The act of repentance is a powerful thing. It makes you be honest.
All I've ever known and was taught was to be honest....My parents didn't go to church but they were honest and moral people. They witnessed "church folks" who were deadbeats and unethical all around them. ...Not bashing "church folks" just stating how I grew up.
TalkLady
03-07-2008, 07:39 PM
TL have you read the book 'Tale of Three Kings' by Gene Edwards? If not get it. It is about 100 pages and I promise it will change your life if you allow God to work through it. The book is great to help deal with hurt especially from the ministry. It is worth every penny. I am sure everyone that has read it will Ditto me on this.
No, I haven't...I'll try to find a copy. Would it be at Borders or Hastings bookstores or would I have to order it from PPH?
Jack Shephard
03-07-2008, 07:43 PM
All I've ever known and was taught was to be honest....My parents didn't go to church but they were honest and moral people. They witnessed "church folks" who were deadbeats and unethical all around them. ...Not bashing "church folks" just stating how I grew up.
I understand that you are not 'bashing' church folk you are just stating the fact of your up-bringing. That is well and good. But do you think that they also saw non-church people that were deadbeats and unethical? I know that the church people or saints are always under the microscope by those outside the body of Christ. Is it fair to say that no one is perfect, but I have seen people outside the body of Christ point at those in it and pick out very bad examples on why they should not join. There are, IMO, many more good ones in this body than there are bad. The reason I used to term body is because we all fit together to be the entire body of Christ. Some people have bad feet and hands, but they do not cut them off because they are hurtful or even useless in some cases. They deal with it cause it is part of the body. There are very bad people in the body, but there are more 'real' people in this thing than there are 'fakes'. It just seems that to bad apples stink more than the good fruit fragrance.
Jack Shephard
03-07-2008, 07:45 PM
No, I haven't...I'll try to find a copy. Would it be at Borders or Hastings bookstores or would I have to order it from PPH?
I bought mine at Barnes and Noble. I know that you can get it through Amazon and maybe Borders too. Never heard about Hastings. I can promise you this it will make you check yourself and see if you are the problem or what. It is, IMO, the best book written to help improve ones spiritual life other than the Bible. It is tremendous. Ask others their thought of it and see what they say.
TalkLady
03-07-2008, 07:49 PM
I understand that you are not 'bashing' church folk you are just stating the fact of your up-bringing. That is well and good. But do you think that they also saw non-church people that were deadbeats and unethical? I know that the church people or saints are always under the microscope by those outside the body of Christ. Is it fair to say that no one is perfect, but I have seen people outside the body of Christ point at those in it and pick out very bad examples on why they should not join. There are, IMO, many more good ones in this body than there are bad. The reason I used to term body is because we all fit together to be the entire body of Christ. Some people have bad feet and hands, but they do not cut them off because they are hurtful or even useless in some cases. They deal with it cause it is part of the body. There are very bad people in the body, but there are more 'real' people in this thing than there are 'fakes'. It just seems that to bad apples stink more than the good fruit fragrance.
In my neck of the woods, I'd say the "church folks" were on the scoundrel list much more than the unchurched in my little community where a relative owned a small business. More is expected from those who call themselves preachers and believers than those who make no such claim. As a child it was rather disheartening to see that those who were supposed to be more were those who were less ....and it's even harder to deal with it as an adult. I know there are many good preachers out there. I'm dwelling on the negative here. So, let's just move on. Thank God for all of the good ministers out there who are ethical, honest and trustworthy!...God's gonna judge all of those who are the "aints"...LOL
Jack Shephard
03-07-2008, 07:58 PM
In my neck of the woods, I'd say the "church folks" were on the scoundrel list much more than the unchurched in my little community where a relative owned a small business. More is expected from those who call themselves preachers and believers than those who make no such claim.
Cause someone does not belong to the body of Christ they get a pass or something? I understand that there are very horrible people in the body. But there are more real people in here than real bad ones. I understand your area growing up was different and gave you this disposition about preachers and such. I agree that more is expected from ministers cause they should live at a higher level. Many do. How come they are perceved as everything but human? I think that to get mercy you must first show mercy. That is something lacking in the world today is mercy towards one another. I am not singleing you out at all please do not take it that way. I do not automatically trust every minister, but I do respect the office and until they let me down my trust builds. In a perfect world everyone trust 'men of God' but there have been too many bad stories and things that have happened.
It is not an easy thing to move passed. Once you or I develop an idea or ideal about something it is tough to produce a change. I promise you that if you would become willing to trust again that God will give you someone that you can trust explictly. I know that God can also restore trust, but first we must submit to forgiving and trying to trust. That is how I see it.
Fiyahstarter
03-07-2008, 07:58 PM
I always try the spirit. Even pastors!!! (Perhaps better stated, especially pastors.)
Jack Shephard
03-07-2008, 08:03 PM
I always try the spirit. Even pastors!!! (Perhaps better stated, especially pastors.)
I think this is VERY valid! I think that if someone gives you the hibbie geebies in the HG then best move on. Sad thing is that alot of the bad ones have figured out how to wear the sheeps clothing just right to fit in and bah like a sheep. But again they may be wolves under there. Better play it safe. I know someone that announced a 'call to preach' like it was announcing they won the lotto. The problem was this person never changed. Messed around with his girlfriend and watched porn and even had a bad attitude. There was alot that needed to change. But because he 'felt' this 'call' he assumed people would bend over backwards to have him preach and lead in certain ministries. This person was in their mid 30's. Way to old to be that immature. They have since changed by the grace of God. But if the men in leadership would have tried his spirit they could have told he was false. I was not in leadership and knew he was not right and did not find out about all the junk he was doing until later.
Scott Hutchinson
03-07-2008, 08:04 PM
Just because someone calls themselves a preacher doesn't them a man of God.
There are wolves in sheeps clothing out there.
TalkLady
03-07-2008, 08:08 PM
Just because someone calls themselves a preacher doesn't them a man of God.
There are wolves in sheeps clothing out there.
Yep...Sometimes those wolves move in herds...Kind of like they stake out a claim to an area to do their howling. LOL
TalkLady
03-07-2008, 08:15 PM
Cause someone does not belong to the body of Christ they get a pass or something? I understand that there are very horrible people in the body. But there are more real people in here than real bad ones. I understand your area growing up was different and gave you this disposition about preachers and such. I agree that more is expected from ministers cause they should live at a higher level. Many do. How come they are perceved as everything but human? I think that to get mercy you must first show mercy. That is something lacking in the world today is mercy towards one another. I am not singleing you out at all please do not take it that way. I do not automatically trust every minister, but I do respect the office and until they let me down my trust builds. In a perfect world everyone trust 'men of God' but there have been too many bad stories and things that have happened.
It is not an easy thing to move passed. Once you or I develop an idea or ideal about something it is tough to produce a change. I promise you that if you would become willing to trust again that God will give you someone that you can trust explictly. I know that God can also restore trust, but first we must submit to forgiving and trying to trust. That is how I see it.
I'll give anyone grace and mercy. I'd help anyone who's stabbed me in the back or been unethical to me. I pray that they have asked God for forgiveness but they haven't asked me for forgiveness. That's when it's hurts - when a person sees no need for repentance and they conduct themselves as though no wrong has been done. Preachers sometimes need to repent just like saints...I think if we saw more repentance from those in the Church, we'd see more of the Spirit working in our churches and more people's lives touched and transformed. People can shout over wrongs and that's when I believe someone's conscience is seared. I'm just a lowly person trying to obey what God's Word tells me to obey. I'm no leader. I have no desire to be a leader but I would love to see leaders being true to what God called a preacher to be - a servant. That's when I can call a person "preacher" and know that the person is proclaiming the Word of God because that person is living the Word of God as Jesus Christ did.
Jack Shephard
03-07-2008, 08:36 PM
I'll give anyone grace and mercy. I'd help anyone who's stabbed me in the back or been unethical to me. I pray that they have asked God for forgiveness but they haven't asked me for forgiveness. That's when it's hurts - when a person sees no need for repentance and they conduct themselves as though no wrong has been done. Preachers sometimes need to repent just like saints...I think if we saw more repentance from those in the Church, we'd see more of the Spirit working in our churches and more people's lives touched and transformed. People can shout over wrongs and that's when I believe someone's conscience is seared. I'm just a lowly person trying to obey what God's Word tells me to obey. I'm no leader. I have no desire to be a leader but I would love to see leaders being true to what God called a preacher to be - a servant. That's when I can call a person "preacher" and know that the person is proclaiming the Word of God because that person is living the Word of God as Jesus Christ did.
Understand completely. I agree with you 100%. I think in the OP churches there is this understanding that is nonverbalized that the leaders are above question. Sad fact is many people follow this belief. But the truth is for every story we have about a Pastor from TX covering sin and it coming out there is others that still seem untouchable. It is very unfortunate that innocent people get trampled by the big expensive shoes of leadership.
You say that you will give mercy to anyone, but if there is no repentance by them then mercy is not coming from you. That is my understanding of what you are saying. If that is the case maybe God is wanting you to give mercy when giving mercy is the last thing you want to give. It is easily said than done. I am convienced that God wants us uncomfortable at times inorder to settle into the place He wants us. Sometime you gotta let it go.
Scott Hutchinson
03-07-2008, 08:44 PM
Even though there are wolves in sheeps clothing there are truly God-called men and women out there who are true blue and the real deal.
TalkLady
03-07-2008, 08:51 PM
Even though there are wolves in sheeps clothing there are truly God-called men and women out there who are true blue and the real deal.
Yes...That is true. Wolves in sheep's clothing can sure hurt a group of sheep sometimes. Makes someone really have to be praying for discernment to know the wolves from the sheep. That's when a person has to try the spirits and see if they be of God and know someone from the fruit of the spirt which is the outward manifestation of what is on the inside of the person. "Sheep's clothing" is not nearly as important as the inside and I think is totally overrated - especially when it's covering up a ravenous wolf.
......THANK GOD FOR ALL OF THE GOOD PREACHERS. I am believing God to restore complete trust in the ministry. As I said where I am attending, I have no reason to distrust. Help me to get past my past.
God bless. Good night.
ManOfWord
03-08-2008, 06:27 AM
I'll give anyone the benefit of the doubt until they prove otherwise. Give me a preacher who is better at using the towel of service than the sword of power and I'll follow his lead as he follows Jesus anywhere!!! :D
MrsMcD
03-08-2008, 08:09 AM
Do you automatically trust a man that is a Preacher or Pastor?
Jesus said beware of False prophets...
Do not trust any one just because he is a "Man Of God" .
Absolutely NOT!
nahkoe
03-08-2008, 08:50 AM
I was going to say absolutely not. Then I was going to admit that yes, I do. Then I decided my reality is probably somewhere in between those.
I don't trust easily in the first place, so you can probably call my yes everyone else's "with extreme caution". lol
I check preachers out. What's the internet say about them? What do people in their church say about them? The community? What does the preacher say about God? How's he act? How does the preacher interact with members of the congregation? His friends? Yeah, some of those are difficult to see, some I haven't seen about every preacher I've checked out. Some I have.
How a preacher prays means more to me than almost anything else. Is he talking to his deepest and dearest friend, or is he putting on a show? I've only heard a handful of men pray who have made me look up to make sure they were even praying, they were speaking to their most intimate friend, definitely not putting on some show. Each of these men have impacted me greatly. (and, someday I hope to add a woman or two to this mix..lol I have honestly never heard a woman pray who was praying like this, yet at least).
Revelationist
03-08-2008, 09:49 AM
The best trust is trust that is earned... even at best, all men are bound to fail now and then...
Pastor, Preacher, etc: are all titles or positions.
They are however inhabited by people, made up of fallen humanity.
It is the people you learn to, or who have earned your trust.
Kay B
03-08-2008, 12:27 PM
I'm going to go against the grain and say yes. I DO automatically trust a minister.
There are certain expectations associated with the office that should draw us into a trusting relationship just as you would automatically trust a police officer, a judge, or a doctor.
With age comes wisdom and life experiences that NOW tell me, I can trust to a certain degree, but keep my eyes wide open.
My hubby's a preacher, although working secular at the moment... and neither of us trust all preachers. Course, if this were to become a preacher bashing thread I'd be out like a light...
I think the Mrs. has it right... eyes open! (and that goes for anyone in a position of authority... )
I don't look for the bad in preachers, lawyers or anyone else, but it's only wise to be careful. There are men who only masquerade as Godly men and Godly preachers... I'm glad I don't know any personally!!! The Bible refers to them as wolves in sheeps clothing.
Two great post!
I have to admit that I automatically trust the position of a Pastor or police officer....
But I have to remind my self they are just men.
I agree with each of the above post. My hubby is also a Pastor.
SOUNWORTHY
03-08-2008, 03:13 PM
NO!!!
George
03-08-2008, 03:38 PM
Actually, the question is faulty. (Please take that kindly) The word "automatically" is what makes it faulty. Trust is not something that come automatically because it is a factor in relationship. Love, respect, trust, are all attributes that grow as the relationship grows.
kingfish
03-08-2008, 04:26 PM
no you should never trust a man who,s title (PREACHER ) ;BUT TRUST A MAN OF GOD . same as the pew also
Rhoni
03-08-2008, 04:39 PM
Do you automatically trust a man that is a Preacher or Pastor?
Jesus said beware of False prophets...
Do not trust any one just because he is a "Man Of God" .
Not hardly:kickcan
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