PDA

View Full Version : What I love about conservatives...


A_PoMo
03-15-2008, 12:33 PM
1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.

Fiyahstarter
03-15-2008, 12:36 PM
Nice observations. I agree with them.

But I am going to make a prediction here... This thread won't last long... UNLESS it turns from "What I love about conservatives" to "What I DON'T like about conservatives."

Rhoni
03-15-2008, 12:38 PM
1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.


The same can be said for moderates, as well as Liberals.:party
Get over it and stop letting them make you feel less or more unworthy than God says you are.

A_PoMo
03-15-2008, 12:54 PM
The same can be said for moderates, as well as Liberals.:party
Get over it and stop letting them make you feel less or more unworthy than God says you are.

Liberals and mods rock too, and for the same reasons.

Amos
03-15-2008, 12:57 PM
The same can be said for moderates, as well as Liberals.:party
Get over it and stop letting them make you feel less or more unworthy than God says you are.


Thank you for these encouraging and affirming words, Sister.

It's high time people stopped feeling like they need to say anything kind about conservatives.

mizpeh
03-15-2008, 12:58 PM
1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.

What's a conservative?

Hoovie
03-15-2008, 12:59 PM
1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.

Amen.

RandyWayne
03-15-2008, 01:03 PM
1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.

1) I agree for the most part

2) I agree although I quite often note a "persecution complex" in many, meaning that they feel they are being persecuted for Christ by the mere act of disagreeing with them.

3) Many ARE. Many are NOT. Many are much more dedicated to their "list".

4) Some are. Some are far more concerned with control (although most of them will not even admit it to themselves).

5) I agree nearly 100% here. (But even on this point, there are SOME who do nothing but spout various party lines and never offer any backing and never respond to a challenge... See item #2.)

Encryptus
03-15-2008, 01:07 PM
1)
I agree although I quite often note a "persecution complex" in many, meaning that they feel they are being persecuted for Christ by the mere act of disagreeing with them.



The persecution complex is not nearly as annoying as the prosecution complex.

:tantrum

RandyWayne
03-15-2008, 01:09 PM
All in all, there are two distinct definitions of "conservative" as it relates to the church. One kind is very good (as it relates to the initial post) and the other is very bad.
For instance, some of the most "conservative" people I know would be considered flaming liberals by many definitions and other "conservatives" I know need to be called by their rightful name, pharisees.

Sept5SavedTeen
03-15-2008, 01:48 PM
Thank you for these encouraging and affirming words, Sister.

It's high time people stopped feeling like they need to say anything kind about conservatives.

Ouch!

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

mizpeh
03-15-2008, 01:49 PM
All in all, there are two distinct definitions of "conservative" as it relates to the church. One kind is very good (as it relates to the initial post) and the other is very bad.
For instance, some of the most "conservative" people I know would be considered flaming liberals by many definitions and other "conservatives" I know need to be called by their rightful name, pharisees.

I'm considered conservative by some because I believe the new birth is the baptisms, water and Spirit. But as for "holiness dress" standards, I follow an individual conviction approach.

StillStanding
03-15-2008, 01:55 PM
I'm considered conservative by some because I believe the new birth is the baptisms, water and Spirit. But as for "holiness dress" standards, I follow an individual conviction approach.
:thumbsup

Kay B
03-15-2008, 02:07 PM
I'm considered conservative by some because I believe the new birth is the baptisms, water and Spirit. But as for "holiness dress" standards, I follow an individual conviction approach.

I just leave other folks in Gods hands. I finally figured out it's * Not My Job* :)
I do have my *Special Prayer List* though and I've added several to it since joining here at AFF. :praying

Cindy
03-15-2008, 03:11 PM
I just leave other folks in Gods hands. I finally figured out it's * Not My Job* :)
I do have my *Special Prayer List* though and I've added several to it since joining here at AFF. :praying

You go sis, we sure need it.

Cindy
03-15-2008, 03:13 PM
Nice observations. I agree with them.

But I am going to make a prediction here... This thread won't last long... UNLESS it turns from "What I love about conservatives" to "What I DON'T like about conservatives."

Yep, it already happened. And of course with the usual disclaimers. Can't have a nice list of qualities because that would make some that aren't conservative really have to look at their attitudes.

A_PoMo
03-15-2008, 04:20 PM
I'm considered conservative by some because I believe the new birth is the baptisms, water and Spirit. But as for "holiness dress" standards, I follow an individual conviction approach.

I speak only for myself. When I say 'conservative' in this context I am referring to the 'holiness standards' continuum. In my book the godhead and salvation issues are not related to the 'holiness standards' thing. So, by my estimation, you can be an OP, three-step person and be either liberal or conservative or anything in between. You can be a trinitarian, one-step person and be liberal or conservative or anything in between as well. I don't connect the two, although I know that some people do.

{BTW: I talked to a trusted spiritual advisor today about what you and I were discussing earlier. Interesting.}

Everybody touch your neighbor and say "Miz is the bomb!" :)

A_PoMo
03-15-2008, 04:26 PM
All in all, there are two distinct definitions of "conservative" as it relates to the church. One kind is very good (as it relates to the initial post) and the other is very bad.
For instance, some of the most "conservative" people I know would be considered flaming liberals by many definitions and other "conservatives" I know need to be called by their rightful name, pharisees.

True, true. I agree with everything you're saying here. I do keep in mind however, that even among the Pharisees there were those who believed in Christ. Those are my spiritual kin. And there were many among the hookers and cheats who believed. They're my kin too. Please understand, I'm agreeing w/you here and attempting to support what you're saying.

My personal point in starting this thread was to confess that my attitude has changed toward my conservative spiritual kin folk. I'm beginning to weigh them more in terms of their good qualities than their negative ones. Well, most of them anyway. It's a process.

Praxeas
03-15-2008, 04:51 PM
1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.
So I would say #2 and #5 don't seem as true anymore. It seems that unless everyone thinks like them or unless they are the majority they run away and THEN claim the board is not conservative enough.

Cindy
03-15-2008, 06:11 PM
Well another one bites the dust.

A_PoMo
03-15-2008, 07:01 PM
Well another one bites the dust.

Nah, not really. I still love my conservative friends. :)

Brother Price
03-15-2008, 07:03 PM
What I love about conservatives...

1. Their dedication to their beliefs.
2. Most love the Lord and try to live pleasing as they have been taught before Him.
3. They are faithful (most) to what they proclaim.
4. They are willing to face criticism over their stances.

I am no conservative, but I love the conservatives.

Cindy
03-15-2008, 07:16 PM
Nah, not really. I still love my conservative friends. :)

I am thinking about becoming a conservative. :bliss

Brother Price
03-15-2008, 07:20 PM
I am thinking about becoming a conservative. :bliss

I was at one time...

No wait, that was bad lasagna. :ursofunny

Cindy
03-15-2008, 07:21 PM
I was at one time...

No wait, that was bad lasagna. :ursofunny

:ursofunny

Cindy
03-15-2008, 07:22 PM
Well I just have to get a label so I will know what I am!

Brother Price
03-15-2008, 07:29 PM
Well I just have to get a label so I will know what I am!

A friend of mine told it to me like this..

I am a Christian. I am as the believers were called in the scriptures, identified by those outside the realm of the faithful as being likened unto Jesus Christ and His Apostles. I need no other label than that of His.

mizpeh
03-15-2008, 07:29 PM
Well I just have to get a label so I will know what I am!

Too bad Mark wasn't around. He'd give you a label and put you on a list! :runhills

Brother Price
03-15-2008, 07:33 PM
Fortunately, I am well labeled...

Many of which I do not agree with, but labeled all the same. :ursofunny

commonsense
03-15-2008, 08:17 PM
A friend of mine told it to me like this..

I am a Christian. I am as the believers were called in the scriptures, identified by those outside the realm of the faithful as being likened unto Jesus Christ and His Apostles. I need no other label than that of His.


Well said. Do we really need another label?

Felicity
03-15-2008, 08:21 PM
1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.I agree. Very good bro. Thank you for posting this! :thumbsup

Cindy
03-15-2008, 08:26 PM
Too bad Mark wasn't around. He'd give you a label and put you on a list! :runhills

I know that's right and he did put me on his good girl list, and if it weren't for the big rock I wear I would be almost up to his standards............:D

LadyChocolate
03-16-2008, 12:08 AM
1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.

A very refreshing post! and on behalf of some of the conservatives here, I thank you!

The same can be said for moderates, as well as Liberals.:party
Get over it and stop letting them make you feel less or more unworthy than God says you are.

...:bored

Sister Alvear
03-16-2008, 10:12 AM
I think really we are all conservatives...just in different ways...
We tend to see things differently but if we were all lumped together...we would find good morals, tender hearts, praying people, and just down to earth good folks...

Kay B
03-16-2008, 10:52 AM
I think really we are all conservatives...just in different ways...
We tend to see things differently but if we were all lumped together...we would find good morals, tender hearts, praying people, and just down to earth good folks...



:friend Amen Sis Alvear
Sounds just like the church here. Everyone at different stages in there walk with the Lord.

Sister Alvear
03-16-2008, 11:02 AM
and let us go on to KNOW HIm....

Today is a great day my house is full of God´s precious little lambs...OH! how I love them.

Margies3
03-16-2008, 02:05 PM
:friend Amen Sis Alvear
Sounds just like the church here. Everyone at different stages in there walk with the Lord.

My only problem with a statement like this is that it *usually* means that if I don't agree with you on certain standards it's just because I'm not as far along in my walk with the Lord as you. I'm not saying that's what you mean.

I'm just saying that all too often, that's the way it's been put to me. "As you grow in the Lord, God will guide you and before long you'll be putting those (pants, earrings, make-up, etc) aside and it won't even be a painful thing to do"

A_PoMo
03-16-2008, 02:09 PM
Well said. Do we really need another label?

I don't think labels are all that bad. I find them pretty helpful when I'm cooking. :)

Rhoni
03-16-2008, 03:41 PM
A very refreshing post! and on behalf of some of the conservatives here, I thank you!



...:bored

You may have been bored with my suggestion that the same things could be said of moderates and liberals but many agreed with me:laffatu.

Blessings, Rhoni

Cindy
03-16-2008, 03:55 PM
You may have been bored with my suggestion that the same things could be said of moderates and liberals but many agreed with me:laffatu.

Blessings, Rhoni

This is true, but this thread is not about moderates and liberals.
It's about what APOMO likes about conservatives.

Brother Price
03-16-2008, 04:00 PM
We have allowed differences to divide us for far too long...

That I may know Him in the power of His resurrection, the fellowship of His suffering, that I may be in be conform into the likeness of His death.

Kay B
03-16-2008, 04:04 PM
My only problem with a statement like this is that it *usually* means that if I don't agree with you on certain standards it's just because I'm not as far along in my walk with the Lord as you. I'm not saying that's what you mean.

I'm just saying that all too often, that's the way it's been put to me. "As you grow in the Lord, God will guide you and before long you'll be putting those (pants, earrings, make-up, etc) aside and it won't even be a painful thing to do"

Sorry Sis Margie when I posted I wasn't even thinking of standards or holiness just my church and family. Sometimes we disagree but the bottom line is we love each other and are praying for one another. :friend

Kay B
03-16-2008, 04:06 PM
I am thinking about becoming a conservative. :bliss


:ursofunny:bliss
:friend

AmazingGrace
03-16-2008, 04:07 PM
:ursofunny:bliss
:friend

Dont laugh at her... remember she has gotten mean in the last week! She might hit you w that stick!!! LOL

Kay B
03-16-2008, 04:12 PM
Well I just have to get a label so I will know what I am!

Ya know I was thinking (don't laugh) about labels and how much they irritate my neck or they stand up instead of staying down like they should. I wind up eventually taking them out of my clothes. :D

Kay B
03-16-2008, 04:15 PM
Dont laugh at her... remember she has gotten mean in the last week! She might hit you w that stick!!! LOL


I ain't scared of that girl. I know her *Big* brother real well ! :bliss:friend

simplyme
03-16-2008, 04:18 PM
Thank you for these encouraging and affirming words, Sister.

It's high time people stopped feeling like they need to say anything kind about conservatives.

OH REALLY???

NEED TO??

How biased! That statement right there smacks of anymosity towards cons..
Rude, too.

JESUS is the ONE whom said we should ALL LOVE ONE ANOTHER,, period., and

I DO. ;)

Whole Hearted
03-16-2008, 04:22 PM
1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.

THANK YOU

Sister Alvear
03-16-2008, 05:34 PM
What I believe I believe with passion...it may differ from some but my service to the Master is with passion...

Rhoni
03-16-2008, 05:44 PM
Dont laugh at her... remember she has gotten mean in the last week! She might hit you w that stick!!! LOL

I guess...she got snippy with me...which is a first for her.:tissue

The Mrs
03-16-2008, 06:17 PM
OH REALLY???

NEED TO??

How biased! That statement right there smacks of anymosity towards cons..
Rude, too.

JESUS is the ONE whom said we should ALL LOVE ONE ANOTHER,, period., and

I DO. ;)

Amos is an astute member of the Sarcastic Society.

You didn't catch what he was REALLY saying. :gaga

May I suggest this online tutorial: How to Regcognize Irony. (http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/howtorecognizeirony/) :toofunny

Sister Alvear
03-16-2008, 06:39 PM
I really don´t like labels...I love people...people are like my kids...all colors and personalities....

Cindy
03-16-2008, 07:25 PM
:ursofunny:bliss
:friend

What? I could be a conservative...............:bliss

Cindy
03-16-2008, 07:27 PM
I guess...she got snippy with me...which is a first for her.:tissue

I is sorry, did I forget to put in a smilie?............:D

Cindy
03-16-2008, 07:28 PM
I ain't scared of that girl. I know her *Big* brother real well ! :bliss:friend

Oh yeah, like I'm afraid of him. :bliss:ursofunny

Cindy
03-16-2008, 07:30 PM
Amos is an astute member of the Sarcastic Society.

You didn't catch what he was REALLY saying. :gaga

May I suggest this online tutorial: How to Regcognize Irony. (http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/howtorecognizeirony/) :toofunny

:ursofunny

Cindy
03-16-2008, 07:32 PM
I guess...she got snippy with me...which is a first for her.:tissue

Oh my goodness, I really did forget to put in a smilie. I am so sorry girl.:friend

Cindy
03-16-2008, 07:33 PM
This is true, but this thread is not about moderates and liberals.
It's about what APOMO likes about conservatives.

Edited for Rhoni, as I forgot to add a smilie............:ursofunny

Rhoni
03-16-2008, 08:00 PM
Edited for Rhoni, as I forgot to add a smilie............:ursofunny

Thank-you...I am so touchy now a days:friend! All is forgiven.

Kay B
03-16-2008, 11:07 PM
Oh yeah, like I'm afraid of him. :bliss:ursofunny

:kickcan nah you ain't scared of him.:friend

LadyChocolate
03-17-2008, 07:57 AM
The same can be said for moderates, as well as Liberals.:party
Get over it and stop letting them make you feel less or more unworthy than God says you are.

You may have been bored with my suggestion that the same things could be said of moderates and liberals but many agreed with me:laffatu.

Blessings, Rhoni

Actually sis., it wasn't the suggestion that the same things are true of mods and libs.... it was the part about them making one feel less worthy....

The thread started out on a positive note.....it was the negative action that was taken when you said the above.... I have been around here long enough to know where you stand on these issues...But there comes a time when you have to let that go and let God heal you. When you do that, it will be easier to let someone compliment a conservative without you feeling you have to put them back in their place.....that's all!

Have a good day!:friend

A_PoMo
03-17-2008, 08:00 AM
"Father Abraham had many sons, and many sons had father Abraham, I am one of them and so are you, so let's just praise the Lord! Right arm, left....Father Abraham..." :)


(Isn't there a saying about how we learn everything we need know in life by the fifth grade or something. Didn't Jesus tell us to be like little children? Hmmm....)

LadyChocolate
03-17-2008, 09:35 AM
"Father Abraham had many sons, and many sons had father Abraham, I am one of them and so are you, so let's just praise the Lord! Right arm, left....Father Abraham..." :)


(Isn't there a saying about how we learn everything we need know in life by the fifth grade or something. Didn't Jesus tell us to be like little children? Hmmm....)

Now I am tired! thanks alot... right arm....left arm... right foot.....I lost my balance and fell down before I could turn around and nod my head! I am finished!

:ouch

dizzyde
03-18-2008, 04:47 PM
Amos is an astute member of the Sarcastic Society.

You didn't catch what he was REALLY saying. :gaga

May I suggest this online tutorial: How to Regcognize Irony. (http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/howtorecognizeirony/) :toofunny

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

Pressing-On
03-18-2008, 04:49 PM
1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.
That's what I like about them!

scotty
03-18-2008, 07:28 PM
Well I just have to get a label so I will know what I am!

I don't have a label, not enough room.

I have a banner!!

4 steppin, liberalistic conservative, Jesus trinity name, water, spirit, grace,blood, cross,mercy,works baptized before and after I was save short sleeve, long jeans, hair cuttin, beard wearin, classic southern rock gospel listening, loving God Christian.

If all I have is a label , I just put

GLORIFIED BAPTIST!!