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Scott Hutchinson
03-19-2008, 11:19 AM
I am just curious ,does anybody know this group ?
http://internationalministerialallianceinchrist.com
I am just curious ,does anybody know this group ?
http://internationalministerialallianceinchrist.com
Well, the site says they are Oneness Pentecostal.
Their list of beliefs also say so.
I don't recognize any of the names listed as leaders (but that doesn't mean much).
WyoPastor
03-19-2008, 05:31 PM
I don't recognize any for sure, but I seem to remember some Evans that had a church that was split off of the UPC church. But that was 40 years ago.
They appear to be a small organization/fellowship.
They say that they are Oneness Pentecostal.
They were not listed on the site of OP organizations at
http://www.apostolic-churches.com/organizations.html
so I emailed the people who maintain the list and they have been added.
Michael The Disciple
03-19-2008, 10:25 PM
Hey guys this interests me. I am particularly wanting to verify their beief on these 2 points of their doctrinal statement.
7. The Resurrection of the Dead
We believe that there will be a literal resurrection of the dead in Christ and that they will he given a glorified and spiritual body in which they will live forever in the presence of the Lord (John 5:29, Acts 24:15, 1 Thess.4:16, 1 Cor.15:35-54). We believe also that there will be a resurrection of the unjust, but these will awake from the tombs only to be judged and hear the hard sentence that will make them heirs of eternal fire (Matt 25:26, John 5:29, Rev. 20:12-15, Mark 9:44).
8. Second Coming of Jesus
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Point 7 leads me to think there is a POSSIBILITY that they believe in soul sleep.
Point 8 seems clear they are POST TRIB in their rapture belief.
These 2 points in my opinion are very important. Anyone with more info?
Hey guys this interests me. I am particularly wanting to verify their beief on these 2 points of their doctrinal statement.
7. The Resurrection of the Dead
...
8. Second Coming of Jesus
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days ...
Point 7 leads me to think there is a POSSIBILITY that they believe in soul sleep.
Point 8 seems clear they are POST TRIB in their rapture belief.
These 2 points in my opinion are very important. Anyone with more info?
I sure don't know anything about them. Maybe there are differences among the preachers on these two points like there are differences among UPC and ALJC preachers. My UPC pastor taught soul sleep but it wasn't a real common teaching in the UPC. My UPC pastor taught a pre-trib rapture but a very prominent minister who even has a regular place in the Pentecostal Herald teaches differently.
Truly Blessed
03-20-2008, 10:30 AM
I think Roger and Shirley White listed from Tenn. were UPC missionaries to Malaysia in the 80's when we were in Hong Kong.
Jack Shephard
03-20-2008, 11:00 AM
Some of those areas in TN are areas where alot of snake handlers are. Could be, might be, may be....Serpents everywhere!
missdkendall
03-20-2008, 11:49 AM
Some of those areas in TN are areas where alot of snake handlers are. Could be, might be, may be....Serpents everywhere!
Ya know, that is what I was thinking as well. My family and I were out of town, and looking for a church close by in TN to visit. Let's just say we walked, and walked out. I was like "I think I'll worship in the Hotel, thanks"
Michael The Disciple
03-20-2008, 12:57 PM
Many videos are available of theirs. I watched a few so far. They are post trib.:friend
Nothing appears to show snake handling. They are not severe on the dress codes. I see short hair on Women and a few beards.
They hold the one step salvation view.
Joelel
03-20-2008, 11:14 PM
Hey guys this interests me. I am particularly wanting to verify their beief on these 2 points of their doctrinal statement.
7. The Resurrection of the Dead
We believe that there will be a literal resurrection of the dead in Christ and that they will he given a glorified and spiritual body in which they will live forever in the presence of the Lord (John 5:29, Acts 24:15, 1 Thess.4:16, 1 Cor.15:35-54). We believe also that there will be a resurrection of the unjust, but these will awake from the tombs only to be judged and hear the hard sentence that will make them heirs of eternal fire (Matt 25:26, John 5:29, Rev. 20:12-15, Mark 9:44).
8. Second Coming of Jesus
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Point 7 leads me to think there is a POSSIBILITY that they believe in soul sleep.
Point 8 seems clear they are POST TRIB in their rapture belief.
These 2 points in my opinion are very important. Anyone with more info?
Hi Michael,Is that what they believe or do they not understand the scripture as many don't ? I believe that there will be a literal resurrection of the dead in Christ but don't believe in soul sleep.
Michael The Disciple
03-21-2008, 07:55 AM
Hi Michael,Is that what they believe or do they not understand the scripture as many don't ? I believe that there will be a literal resurrection of the dead in Christ but don't believe in soul sleep.
Well I dont know for sure their statement of faith makes me lean to think they do. If so it is to their credit. Where are the "many" who believe in it? To my knowledge there are no Pentecostal orgs that do. Maybe a few independent groups here and there. No real point in a literal resurrection if one is instantly in Heaven at death.
I am thinking of calling them but Woman preachers would be a very high hurdle for me to overlook.
Joelel
03-21-2008, 09:09 PM
Well I dont know for sure their statement of faith makes me lean to think they do. If so it is to their credit. Where are the "many" who believe in it? To my knowledge there are no Pentecostal orgs that do. Maybe a few independent groups here and there. No real point in a literal resurrection if one is instantly in Heaven at death.
I am thinking of calling them but Woman preachers would be a very high hurdle for me to overlook.
You know Michael,That's what's bad about people like you and I,it's a high hurdle for us to overlook any false teaching.I preached in a couple of lady pastor churchs a few times and God Healed and delievered as he does every where and I never said a word to them about being the pastor.God never told me to,I wonder why ? Maybe we are to just serve and let the Holy Ghost do the teaching.You know if the Holy Ghost don't open peoples understanding we can preach truth all day and all they will do is reject it.Like on these forums,you don't know who is receving truth.In my forum I have some who come in all the time and just read,so I would say they are receving truth because they keep coming back.
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