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The Antagonist
03-16-2007, 06:08 AM
On another thread, a dear lady thanked the Admin for running a tight ship where there were no bashings and diabolical diatribes. While I greatly appreciate the dear sister's desire to see peace, harmony and good will to all men everywhere, bretheren in one mind and in one accord, I got to thinking what level of sensitivities would have to be reached for the discussion to be considered by the Admin as bashing and diabolical?
It would be interesting to learn what is bashing and what would be considered a diabolical diatribe.
For instance, if someone were to say, "Divine Flesh doctrine is heresy according to the Word and those that preach it are deceived as is Brothers Smith and Jones who have deceived many by that doctrine," would you say that would fit your definition of bashing and diabolical diatribe?
Would you rather see a discussion go like this:
Brother Green: "God sure is good."
Brother Brown: "Yep. Yep. God sure is good to me."
Brother Green: "Yeah, I know what you mean. He sure is good to me."
Brother Brown: "Yesssss sireee Bob. He sure is. Been good to my wife too."
Brother Green: "Oh yeah, he's been good to my wife too. So what's new?"
Brother Brown: "Oh not really much, but Boy howdy! God sure is good. Sooooooo what's new with you?"
Brother Green: "Well, I went to church last night and the Pastor preached about how good God is. Got to agree with HER about that."
Brother Brown: "Yep. Yep. She's got that right.
Brother Red: "Do you have a woman Pastor brother Green?"
Brother Green: "Yes brother Red, I have a wonderful pastor who is a woman. In fact we had a woman evangelist the other day for a two week revival. The pastor and her three other sisters are great preachers too. One of them is a prophetess. The Pastor's mama was a Pastor too as well as all of my aunts on both sides of the family.
Brother Red: "WHAT? THAT IS UNBIBLICAL."
End of discussion.
There will be no bashing or diabolical diatribe. But just remember, God sure is good. Yesssss sirrreeeeee Bob, God suuurre is goooooood. In fact, He just gets gooder and gooder."
Thus nothing is challenged for fear of bashing or entering into a diabolical diatribe. No inspired vision. No expanded mind. Nothing fresh to be examined critically, effectively and thoroughly for fear of a little heat generated in the presence of exposed light. The heat would be called bashing and possibly a diabolical diatribe.
This is religious political correctness run amok, a product of the modern group mind that agrees that no one must be offended regardless of how dumb, ugly, or heretical.
While everyone can lean back in the security of their fellowship of their homogenized sameness, I am personally sick of it for just for the sake of harmony and fear of being labeled as a dissenter.
Everyone can admire with great peace and harmony, their glorious "hay, wood and stubble," but the politically incorrect Apostle Paul warned that it is all about to be burned up. Kudos for Paul's bashing and diabolical diatribe.
I am reminded of penguins. Ever see one that looked or acted any differently. Penguins all! All penguins! All the same! All the same! Nothing new! Nothing new! SAME! SAME!
Personally, I see heresy, false prophets, phony holiness, mistaken righteousness and a lot hypocrites that are willing to inform God how great is their wonderful denominations and how great each other are. Personally, I marvel that they cannot see how worthy of hell that they are.
No image in the plains of Dura to compare with OUR image! While the whole church world wonders, we must not bash or enter into a diabolical diatribe. It is not conducive to good fellowship and certainly not politically astute.
MICIAH!!! Where art thou? Jehosophat calleth for thee!
Well personally, I desire a place where a debate can begin in charity, honesty and objectivity remembering where there is no heat, there is no light. Where there is neither, there is death.
This valley of dry bones is not for me. I want to hear the voice of the Lord calling for something never done before. I am calling for a defeated army, reduced to a valley of dry bones to stand upon their feet and prepare for battle.
Not too politically correct in the atmosphere of blandness, sameness and politically correctness. I am not intimidated by fear of being called a basher in the presence of false doctrine, nor fear of diabolical diatribe challenging false doctrine.
Y'all have all the peace, harmony and goodwill in fellowship that you so desire, while you continue to slumber with folded hands unchallenged, unprovoked, and unchanged.
Digging4Truth
03-16-2007, 06:35 AM
You speak as if to be challenged & provoked in our thoughts cannot be obtained within a realm of discussion that still maintains decorum and respect for the holder of the opposite opinion.
This is NOT true in the least. It does appear sometimes to be true for some but that is a character flaw that needs to be worked on and prayed about.
My next 2 posts will be articles I have written on the subject.
Absolute and diametrically opposed positions can be discussed in a respectful & civilized manner and great things can be learned.
Correction.. greater things can be learned when a level of respect & civility are maintained. When this happens then emotions are kept at a minimum & the discussion can be kept about what the word says.
A discussion doesn't have to emulate Sesame Street to be productive... neither does it have to emulate the WWE.
Digging4Truth
03-16-2007, 06:35 AM
There has been some discussion over the forums that I frequent about people who have a hard time getting honest questions answered concerning christianity.
I do find this to be a fairly frequent occurence sometimes and it is a bit frustrating to me. When someone asks an honest question concerning christianity it will sometimes be taken as a pointed question and will be, sometimes, taken offensively.
Besides this there is another practice that I see as similar in destructive potential and in the spirit in which it is given. I am speaking of the quick, unthinking and complete denial of statements that contradict what some may have felt was truth.
When faced with something that flies in the face of what you believe is truth the proper reaction is not to rebut said statement unless this is something that you have personally studied and can speak with some authority on. Many will, with conviction in their voice, vehemently deny something that they have put no substantive study into.
Even if we have studied a subject we need to be willing to listen to the opinion of others because there is no way that we can know all of the information on any one subject.
One thing that comes to mind is something that has been mentioned in this forum lately and that is the infallability of the word of God. Many will quickly and matter-of-factly tell you that the bible is the infallible word of God and everything you read in that book is absolutely truth.
While I do agree with that statement in principal what you have got to realize is that blind statements of faith, especially when they contradict information the questioning individual already knows to be true, only paint a portrait of blind and, dare I say, ignorant adherance with no willingness to actually know what is true. This immediately makes anything you say worthless to the questioning individual because they no longer trust you as someone honest enough to at least weigh the facts before making an opinion.
For instance, there are questions as to whether Matthew 28:19 and 1 John 5:7 are even found in earlier transcripts. It is possible that these scriptures were not even in the original writings but were added later. Someone who already knows this information and confronts you about the infallibility of the word of God will not consider you as a worthy source of information when they experience your denial of something that they know to be true.
Let me clarify my stance on the infallibility of the word of God before I go any further. I do believe that the word delivered to the apostles and prophets was from God and is infallable and unchanging. I also recognize that there are known instances where portions of what we know as the bible have changed somewhat over the centuries. I do believe that these changes are minor and do not prohibit me from knowing God and finding salvation through the word of God. But we must not arrogantly and ignorantly just put big walls of blind faith up before people because we only show our ignorance when we do that.
So, you might ask, what should I do? Since I only know what I know how can I know when I don't know something? (was that confusing or what? :) ) What you can do is this...
1. Be dogmatic about nothing. Always be open and willing to discuss opposing opinions with others. If what you believe is truth then it will survive the scrutiny. If what you believe is not truth then you may have made youself available for a seed of truth to be planted in your heart so that you can come to more truth as God is able to bring you into it.
2. Study before you talk. If someone asks you a question and you have never studied this issue for yourself then don't put forth an opinion on it since you have not done the proper legwork to have any authoritative opinion. If someone asks you about something that you cannot speak on from personal study then be honest and tell them "You know what... I would need to study on that first. Let me look into it and we will discuss this more later". I remember early on as a sunday school teacher the 3 hardest words for me to learn to say were... "I don't know". But sometimes those are the most intelligent words you will ever utter.
3. Have respect for differing opinions. Their opinion and beliefs are as dear to them as yours are to you. What they offer you is the culmation of all of their study and it is the most precious jewel they possess at this point in their lives. Please understand that this is very important to them and their beliefs and opinions are not your toys and they are not at your disposal to play with whenever you choose. This would sound like I am asking you to "put on a front" of respect during a discussion but that is certainly not the case. What I am suggesting is that you actually have genuine respect for the way others believe. But do understand, of course, that this will require you to remember #1 and make your truths vulnerable to their truths. It is only when you make your truths vulnerable to their truths that either of you stand any chance of learning more about Him.
If you can do these things you will find yourself more effective in communicating your precious jewels of truth to others and, from time to time, you will need to inventory your jewels of truth because you will find that, somehow, your inventory has increased. How it is that making your truths vulnerable causes them to increase is a hard thing to understand but it always seems to be the case.
Do these things...
Live according to His nature.
Grow in knowledge every day.
Study to show yourself approved.
Respect others and their opinions.
Love your neighbor as you would love yourself.
Walk into every conversation expecting to gain rather than fearing to lose.
God's truth will stand and does not fear being handled.
Everything that can be shaken will be shaken.
What cannot be shaken is true.
Digging4Truth
03-16-2007, 06:36 AM
I tire these days of the increasingly common attitude that if you disagree with someone then you are hating them or you are bashing them.
This not only happens in religious and political conversations but sometimes happens in just normal everyday conversations as well.
Not only does one tend to be labeled a "basher" for disagreeing with people but there also seems to be an "attack mode" mentality when "discussing" these things. Calm, orderly and substantive discussion seems to be a lost art these days.
I am sure that I am guilty of the same thing from time to time but I have to say that, at least, I am guilty of it far less than I used to be. I guess I have seen too many things that I had deemed as truth turn out to be false to make too much of a one sided "absolutely true" type stand.
Even concerning things that I still feel are "absolutely" true I still want to be able to weigh another opinion and honestly give it thought and study lest I cut myself off from some further truth that God may have for me to learn.
I have learned a few things about the mindset that I have to possess to have honest and open study of any issue:
1. If I have not reached a place that I can see where they are coming from then I have not yet put down the walls that keep me from honestly hearing what they have to say.
2. There is some truth in nearly everything that anyone believes even if what they believe is in error. These truths must be accepted as truth. Truth is, after all, truth and should always be recognized as such. The reason for this is two fold.
A) When you act negatively to something that both of you know is truth then the person you are speaking with will not see you as having an open and honest mind. (And they are right by the way :) )
B) If you see something that is truth but, because it is part of something you do not believe, you treat it as error then you are in no way being open and honest and you are not currently capable of seeing anything more than you already know.
While not a perfect example of this one moment that comes to mind is from a choir practice in Texas. We were singing a song and the lyrics, while actually biblical, had a little too much of a "trinitarian" flare to them for one of the choir members and he was objecting somewhat. I turned asked him out of the blue... "Have you been baptized in the name of the father, and of the son, and of the Holy Ghost?" to which he replied "Of course not". I then told him... You better be. It is bible. You and I both know that the name of the father, son & holy ghost is Jesus but never ever let yourself be caught denying scripture. If someone asks you if you have been baptized in the name of the father, and of the son, and of the holy ghost then you should answer yes lest you be found standing against the word of God. The lesson I was shooting for is, if it is scripture then it is scripture. Cut and dried. Don't deny scripture because you don't like the "ring" it has to it. Let the word of God be true and every man a liar.
3. Do not read what YOU think is their attitude into what they say. Or, further stated, don't paint what they say with your preconceptions about what you feel they think. If you have questions then ask them. Otherwise take what they say at face value and don't taint it with prejudice.
4. Never ever attack what they believe. If the 2 of you can study together and continue to, calmly and with respect, show each other what you believe and why then, in God's time, greater truth will come to the one who is in need of it. In most cases I find that both go away edified and made stronger in the word.
There are others that I could add to this but this post is already getting longer than I expected it to be so I will close it for now.
The Antagonist
03-16-2007, 06:39 AM
That's nice Diggin, but you missed the point.
I was not speaking of getting ugly or uncharitable.
Thanks anyway.
COOPER
03-16-2007, 06:55 AM
The Antagonist
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Thus nothing is challenged for fear of bashing or entering into a diabolical diatribe. No inspired vision. No expanded mind. Nothing fresh to be examined critically, effectively and thoroughly for fear of a little heat generated in the presence of exposed light. The heat would be called bashing and possibly a diabolical diatribe.
This is religious political correctness run amok, a product of the modern group mind that agrees that no one must be offended regardless of how dumb, ugly, or heretical.
While everyone can lean back in the security of their fellowship of their homogenized sameness, I am personally sick of it for just for the sake of harmony and fear of being labeled as a dissenter.
Everyone can admire with great peace and harmony, their glorious "hay, wood and stubble," but the politically incorrect Apostle Paul warned that it is all about to be burned up. Kudos for Paul's bashing and diabolical diatribe. :grampa
I am reminded of penguins. Ever see one that looked or acted any differently. Penguins all! All penguins! All the same! All the same! Nothing new! Nothing new! SAME! SAME! :nah
Personally, I see heresy, false prophets, phony holiness, mistaken righteousness and a lot hypocrites that are willing to inform God how great is their wonderful denominations and how great each other are. Personally, I marvel that they cannot see how worthy of hell that they are.
:aaa
Digging4Truth
03-16-2007, 06:56 AM
That's nice Diggin, but you missed the point.
I was not speaking of getting ugly or uncharitable.
Thanks anyway.
The title you have placed on the post would seem to go a long way toward painting the post in that light and giving the reader that mindset when reading what you have posted.
Nevertheless...
My bad.
The Antagonist
03-16-2007, 07:02 AM
3. Do not read what YOU think is their attitude into what they say. Or, further stated, don't paint what they say with your preconceptions about what you feel they think. If you have questions then ask them. Otherwise take what they say at face value and don't taint it with prejudice.
Seems like a pretty good rule to me, Diggin. But, I don't remember being asked.
rgcraig
03-16-2007, 07:06 AM
The Brother Colors conversation is boring.
This is bashing:
Divine Flesh doctrine is heresy according to the Word and those that preach it are deceived as is Brothers Smith and Jones who have deceived many by that doctrine.
This is acceptable for debate:
Divine Flesh doctrine is heresy according to the Word and it's my opinion that those that preach it are deceived.
It's really not that hard to understand.
Digging4Truth
03-16-2007, 07:10 AM
Seems like a pretty good rule to me, Diggin. But, I don't remember being asked.
My posts were more a preconception of subject matter than a preconception of attitude....
But...
Nevertheless...
My bad...
tbpew
03-16-2007, 07:29 AM
the antagonist wrote:
Y'all have all the peace, harmony and goodwill in fellowship that you so desire, while you continue to slumber with folded hands unchallenged, unprovoked, and unchanged.
I hope you find the place you're looking for.
Have you been at that place before? And if so, what caused its demise (or your departure)?
whollyHis
03-16-2007, 07:34 AM
Most here know, I have three adult daughters. We have had our share of differences in our house for the past 25 years...it would be impossible to have five people in a house, and live in perfect 'peace, love and harmony'. HOWEVER, we never allowed name calling, put-downs, false accusations and such DIATRIBE when we were in a discussion where difference of opinion was present.
Antagonist...this forum may not be the one for you, just as NFCF was not for everyone, and GNC is not for everyone. I AM truly thankful that we are not expected to endure childish rhetoric whenever we have a difference of opinion on here- it gets real old, real quick.
I think most of us that post here are over the age of twelve. I appreciate that we are all expected to act like it.
Felicity
03-16-2007, 11:33 AM
Well, I personally would like to be able to tan people's hides if they deserve it.
:D
Nahum
03-16-2007, 11:38 AM
Well, I personally would like to be able to tan people's hides if they deserve it.
:D
When haven't you, Miss Felicity? :tiphat
LOL
Well, I personally would like to be able to tan people's hides if they deserve it.
:D
The thing is that you'd do it in such a way that they'd know they had their hide tanned without feeling like they'd been bashed and beaten over the head. :tiphat
Felicity
03-16-2007, 11:48 AM
On another thread, a dear lady thanked the Admin for running a tight ship where there were no bashings and diabolical diatribes. While I greatly appreciate the dear sister's desire to see peace, harmony and good will to all men everywhere, bretheren in one mind and in one accord, I got to thinking what level of sensitivities would have to be reached for the discussion to be considered by the Admin as bashing and diabolical?
It would be interesting to learn what is bashing and what would be considered a diabolical diatribe.
For instance, if someone were to say, "Divine Flesh doctrine is heresy according to the Word and those that preach it are deceived as is Brothers Smith and Jones who have deceived many by that doctrine," would you say that would fit your definition of bashing and diabolical diatribe?
Would you rather see a discussion go like this:
Brother Green: "God sure is good."
Brother Brown: "Yep. Yep. God sure is good to me."
Brother Green: "Yeah, I know what you mean. He sure is good to me."
Brother Brown: "Yesssss sireee Bob. He sure is. Been good to my wife too."
Brother Green: "Oh yeah, he's been good to my wife too. So what's new?"
Brother Brown: "Oh not really much, but Boy howdy! God sure is good. Sooooooo what's new with you?"
Brother Green: "Well, I went to church last night and the Pastor preached about how good God is. Got to agree with HER about that."
Brother Brown: "Yep. Yep. She's got that right.
Brother Red: "Do you have a woman Pastor brother Green?"
Brother Green: "Yes brother Red, I have a wonderful pastor who is a woman. In fact we had a woman evangelist the other day for a two week revival. The pastor and her three other sisters are great preachers too. One of them is a prophetess. The Pastor's mama was a Pastor too as well as all of my aunts on both sides of the family.
Brother Red: "WHAT? THAT IS UNBIBLICAL."
End of discussion.
There will be no bashing or diabolical diatribe. But just remember, God sure is good. Yesssss sirrreeeeee Bob, God suuurre is goooooood. In fact, He just gets gooder and gooder."
Thus nothing is challenged for fear of bashing or entering into a diabolical diatribe. No inspired vision. No expanded mind. Nothing fresh to be examined critically, effectively and thoroughly for fear of a little heat generated in the presence of exposed light. The heat would be called bashing and possibly a diabolical diatribe.
This is religious political correctness run amok, a product of the modern group mind that agrees that no one must be offended regardless of how dumb, ugly, or heretical.
While everyone can lean back in the security of their fellowship of their homogenized sameness, I am personally sick of it for just for the sake of harmony and fear of being labeled as a dissenter.
Everyone can admire with great peace and harmony, their glorious "hay, wood and stubble," but the politically incorrect Apostle Paul warned that it is all about to be burned up. Kudos for Paul's bashing and diabolical diatribe.
I am reminded of penguins. Ever see one that looked or acted any differently. Penguins all! All penguins! All the same! All the same! Nothing new! Nothing new! SAME! SAME!
Personally, I see heresy, false prophets, phony holiness, mistaken righteousness and a lot hypocrites that are willing to inform God how great is their wonderful denominations and how great each other are. Personally, I marvel that they cannot see how worthy of hell that they are.
No image in the plains of Dura to compare with OUR image! While the whole church world wonders, we must not bash or enter into a diabolical diatribe. It is not conducive to good fellowship and certainly not politically astute.
MICIAH!!! Where art thou? Jehosophat calleth for thee!
Well personally, I desire a place where a debate can begin in charity, honesty and objectivity remembering where there is no heat, there is no light. Where there is neither, there is death.
This valley of dry bones is not for me. I want to hear the voice of the Lord calling for something never done before. I am calling for a defeated army, reduced to a valley of dry bones to stand upon their feet and prepare for battle.
Not too politically correct in the atmosphere of blandness, sameness and politically correctness. I am not intimidated by fear of being called a basher in the presence of false doctrine, nor fear of diabolical diatribe challenging false doctrine.
Y'all have all the peace, harmony and goodwill in fellowship that you so desire, while you continue to slumber with folded hands unchallenged, unprovoked, and unchanged.Wow. Somebody got inspired this morning. I'm impressed! :) And I agree with you overall.
Signed.....
Sis. Green
:D
ChTatum
03-16-2007, 11:58 AM
The Brother Colors conversation is boring.
This is bashing:
Divine Flesh doctrine is heresy according to the Word and those that preach it are deceived as is Brothers Smith and Jones who have deceived many by that doctrine.
This is acceptable for debate:
Divine Flesh doctrine is heresy according to the Word and it's my opinion that those that preach it are deceived.
It's really not that hard to understand.
You'd think those with deep revelations could figure this out, wouldn't cha?
whollyHis
03-16-2007, 12:55 PM
Wow. Somebody got inspired this morning. I'm impressed! :) And I agree with you overall.
Signed.....
Sis. Green
:D
Well, Sis. Green...you just tan all the hides you want!!!! :happydance I'd take a 'hide tanning' from you anyday. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect adults to disagree with a smidgen of decorum, do you? I like a good argument like most folk on here- it keeps me on my toes,so to speak. But the name calling, and infantile 'put downs' are a little much. IMHO
But, then...you can make your points without resorting to those measures. :tiphat
Felicity
03-16-2007, 12:57 PM
When haven't you, Miss Felicity? :tiphat
LOL *ahem* :)
Well I've had to apologize a few times for being offensive although in my mind they had it coming. :drawguns Hehe.
Sister Alvear
03-16-2007, 01:08 PM
don't tan hides they might take you to law...ha....
Malvaro
03-16-2007, 01:12 PM
noone is going to be tanning hides around here....
tbpew
03-16-2007, 01:14 PM
Well, Sis. Green...you just tan all the hides you want!!!! :happydance I'd take a 'hide tanning' from you anyday. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect adults to disagree with a smidgen of decorum, do you? I like a good argument like most folk on here- it keeps me on my toes,so to speak. But the name calling, and infantile 'put downs' are a little much. IMHO
But, then...you can make your points without resorting to those measures. :tiphat
maybe to some, conversing within a strict decorum equates to pandering or making an alliance with sin in the promiseland.
maybe to some veterans of discussion boards, decorum lacks the shock value and stimuli that sustains their posting enthusiasm.
maybe some posters think once an idiot has been identified they have a liberty to instantly transform [said idiot] into a play-thing.
rgcraig
03-16-2007, 01:17 PM
You'd think those with deep revelations could figure this out, wouldn't cha?
Lol.....ya would.
Sometimes, I really think I'm just too simple.
Felicity
03-16-2007, 01:22 PM
maybe to some, conversing within a strict decorum equates to pandering or making an alliance with sin in the promiseland.
maybe to some veterans of discussion boards, decorum lacks the shock value and stimuli that sustains their posting enthusiasm.
maybe some posters think once an idiot has been identified they have a liberty to instantly transform [said idiot] into a play-thing.Speaking of veterans I've been posting on forums now for several years. I believe I started in '97 or '98 when I inadvertently came across a forum that was very pro UPC.
As a total newbie I'll never forget my first post .... OR the response. :D
I just jumped in having no idea how the whole thing "worked". LOL! I found out pretty quick! I got blistered. And I've been blistered many times since. :toofunny
Sister Alvear
03-16-2007, 01:23 PM
I think I am too...
Felicity
03-16-2007, 01:31 PM
Cattiness can be as bad if not worse than someone being forceful with their words. And there are other things as bad if not worse that bring division and chaos to a forum, but those are a little harder to moderate.
tbpew
03-16-2007, 01:46 PM
Speaking of veterans I've been posting on forums now for several years. I believe I started in '97 or '98 when I inadvertently came across a forum that was very pro UPC.
As a total newbie I'll never forget my first post .... OR the response. :D
I just jumped in having no idea how the whole thing "worked". LOL! I found out pretty quick! I got blistered. And I've been blistered many times since. :toofunny
Ok, now this post sounds like it is coming from Canada but the last three posts ["Who is more Holy" thread]sounded like they could have been written from a cafe' in Egypt serving lousy coffee:toofunny
Digging4Truth
03-16-2007, 01:48 PM
maybe to some, conversing within a strict decorum equates to pandering or making an alliance with sin in the promiseland.
maybe to some veterans of discussion boards, decorum lacks the shock value and stimuli that sustains their posting enthusiasm.
maybe some posters think once an idiot has been identified they have a liberty to instantly transform [said idiot] into a play-thing.
'tis true for some...
I prefer open dialogue without sarcasm, insults or pointed remarks. More can be accomplished toward the ultimate goal of learning the truth.
Felicity
03-16-2007, 01:49 PM
Absolute and diametrically opposed positions can be discussed in a respectful & civilized manner and great things can be learned.
Correction.. greater things can be learned when a level of respect & civility are maintained. When this happens then emotions are kept at a minimum & the discussion can be kept about what the word says.
A discussion doesn't have to emulate Sesame Street to be productive... neither does it have to emulate the WWE.I think good points are made here.
It's difficult to "hear" what a person is saying when you're angry and defensive. Humour always lightens things up and makes people more receptive and open to hear and to consider what another is saying. I think of Old Paths who says it loud and strong yet he usually always cracks me up. You can take a lot from people if they can make you laugh. :)
I welcome having my ideas and thoughts and beliefs challenged and I love discussion as long as it's not done in a put-down sarcastic manner. I appreciate a strong voice and strong people but great strength is proven, exercised and noted when people know where to draw lines in regard to how to interact with people.
Some can get away with a whole lot more than others too and there's a reason for that. :)
rgcraig
03-16-2007, 01:50 PM
Speaking of veterans I've been posting on forums now for several years. I believe I started in '97 or '98 when I inadvertently came across a forum that was very pro UPC.
As a total newbie I'll never forget my first post .... OR the response. :D
I just jumped in having no idea how the whole thing "worked". LOL! I found out pretty quick! I got blistered. And I've been blistered many times since. :toofunny
Lol.....me too! Roxie. Must I say more?
Felicity
03-16-2007, 01:51 PM
Lol.....me too! Roxie. Must I say more?LOL!
Roxanne. Oh my! :aaa
rgcraig
03-16-2007, 01:53 PM
Ok, now this post sounds like it is coming from Canada but the last three posts ["Who is more Holy" thread]sounded like they could have been written from a cafe' in Egypt serving lousy coffee:toofunny
So tbpew knows who belongs to whom. :friend
Felicity
03-16-2007, 01:53 PM
Lol.....me too! Roxie. Must I say more?This reminded me of a post I made to her hubby one time. Man, talk about getting blistered. He did that day. I flat out told him that I just didn't like him. And more choice words that weren't very nice. :toofunny But I felt he deserved them and after that he kind of lightened up a bit and we came to get along and appreciate one another.
Roxanne and I agree on some things. ;) :D
rgcraig
03-16-2007, 01:55 PM
This reminded me of a post I made to her hubby one time. Man, talk about getting blistered. He did that day. I flat out told him that I just didn't like him. And more choice words that weren't very nice. :toofunny But I felt he deserved them and after that he kind of lightened up a bit and we came to get along and appreciate one another.
Roxanne and I agree on some things. ;) :DI made the mistake of trying to explain to her that self-confidence wasn't a sin. LOLOLOL!!!!! :ignore
Felicity
03-16-2007, 02:01 PM
Ok, now this post sounds like it is coming from Canada but the last three posts ["Who is more Holy" thread]sounded like they could have been written from a cafe' in Egypt serving lousy coffee:toofunnyIs this a compliment or a putdown?! :ranting
:winkgrin
tbpew
03-16-2007, 02:07 PM
Is this a compliment or a putdown?! :ranting
:winkgrin
It was a question.....using humor to make the asking a little easier.
It seems plausible (from my former reading of your's and TB's posting on FCF) that passwords may be shared among those who are one flesh:tiphat
I think good points are made here.
It's difficult to "hear" what a person is saying when you're angry and defensive. Humour always lightens things up and makes people more receptive and open to hear and to consider what another is saying. I think of Old Paths who says it loud and strong yet he usually always cracks me up. You can take a lot from people if they can make you laugh. :)
No, humor does not ALWAYS lighten things up or make people more receptive, particularly when the humor is a veiled (or not so veiled) personal attack. (It's interesting how personal attacks on some people are not only tolerated but seemingly encouraged while even the slightest criticism of what certain other people say brings rebuke from one of the Admins).
BoredOutOfMyMind
03-16-2007, 02:28 PM
No, humor does not ALWAYS lightn things up or make people more receptive, particularly when the humor is a veiled (or not so veiled) personal attack. (It's interesting how personal attacks on some people are not only tolerated but seemingly encouraged while even the slightest criticism of what certain other people say brings rebuke from one of the Admins).
Humor can lighten up the situation.
Have you ever read any of Abraham Lincoln?
Humor can lighten up the situation.Yes, it can.
Have you ever read any of Abraham Lincoln?No.
BoredOutOfMyMind
03-16-2007, 02:30 PM
Lol.....me too! Roxie. Must I say more?
Ohhhhhhhhh and She has not been on lately either? :grampa
Felicity
03-16-2007, 02:40 PM
It was a question.....using humor to make the asking a little easier. Oh okay. Gotcha now. As you must know if you've been involved in these forums much I don't always "get it". LOL. :winkgrin
It seems plausible (from my former reading of your's and TB's posting on FCF) that passwords may be shared among those who are one flesh:tiphatTB did NOT write those posts. I did. TB isn't in a cafe' drinking bad coffee in Egypt. He should be sitting on a plane somewhere between here and Amsterdam drinking bad coffee. :toofunny
Anybody familiar with his writing style and mine would know he didn't write those posts. He could do a much better job at it than I do. I just do my best. :o
Besides, he doesn't have my password. So there! :igotit
tbpew
03-16-2007, 02:42 PM
Oh okay. Gotcha now. As you must know if you've been involved in these forums much I don't always "get it". LOL. :winkgrin
TB did NOT write those posts. I did. TB isn't in a cafe' drinking bad coffee in Egypt. He should be sitting on a plane somewhere between here and Amsterdam drinking bad coffee. :toofunny
Anybody familiar with his writing style and mine would know he didn't write those posts. He could do a much better job at it than I do. I just do my best. :o
Besides, he doesn't have my password. So there! :igotit
thanks, I feel better now knowing I can ask specific questions (eventually) and get specific answers (eventually):toofunny
Felicity
03-16-2007, 02:44 PM
thanks, I feel better now knowing I can ask specific questions (eventually) and get specific answers (eventually):toofunny
Huh? :confused:
Felicity
03-16-2007, 02:47 PM
No, humor does not ALWAYS lighten things up or make people more receptive, particularly when the humor is a veiled (or not so veiled) personal attack. (It's interesting how personal attacks on some people are not only tolerated but seemingly encouraged while even the slightest criticism of what certain other people say brings rebuke from one of the Admins).I wasn't talking about that kind of humour Chan. I was talking about the you know....... *hahaha* ..... kind.
As for unfairness, like I said, some can get away with more than others. It's always been that way and always will be. We ALL feel as if we've been treated unfairly at one time or other.
We have to just suck it up and keep on going. :) Big boys and girls do that.
tbpew
03-16-2007, 03:16 PM
On another thread, a dear lady thanked the Admin for running a tight ship where there were no bashings and diabolical diatribes. While I greatly appreciate the dear sister's desire to see peace, harmony and good will to all men everywhere, bretheren in one mind and in one accord, I got to thinking what level of sensitivities would have to be reached for the discussion to be considered by the Admin as bashing and diabolical?
.......
I am reminded of penguins. Ever see one that looked or acted any differently. Penguins all! All penguins! All the same! All the same! Nothing new! Nothing new! SAME! SAME!
......
Y'all have all the peace, harmony and goodwill in fellowship that you so desire, while you continue to slumber with folded hands unchallenged, unprovoked, and unchanged.
In consideration of the bolded portion of Antagonists original post:
It reminded me how Pengiuns are amazing creatures.
Even though they have no distinguishing qualities for those who look on the outward to see, they are so uniguely committed to their mate and offspring.
Their willingness to deny self is even unto to their own personal death from starvation.
Maybe these rare birds can be that selfless because they have no need to expend energy in being viewed as different?
Penguins are very beautiful.
StillStanding
03-16-2007, 09:20 PM
In consideration of the bolded portion of Antagonists original post:
It reminded me how Pengiuns are amazing creatures.
Even though they have no distinguishing qualities for those who look on the outward to see, they are so uniguely committed to their mate and offspring.
Their willingness to deny self is even unto to their own personal death from starvation.
Maybe these rare birds can be that selfless because they have no need to expend energy in being viewed as different?
Penguins are very beautiful.
Sorry, but I'd rather not live in -80 degree fridgid weather! :grampa
Felicity
03-16-2007, 10:10 PM
Sorry, but I'd rather not live in -80 degree fridgid weather! :grampaLOL! I didn't realize that penguins are birds and that they spend most of their time in the water.
I always kind of wondered about the black and white. The white made sense because they blend in with snow and ice but I couldn't figure out the black.
Black enables them to blend in with the water. Makes sense seein's how they spend so much time there.
:)
Felicity
03-16-2007, 10:40 PM
Trust you won't mind a little aside here from the thread topic but wanted to share these in the spirit of TBPs post.
These really are quite beautiful. The 1st pic has a surreal effect to it.
The 2nd pic I'd title...... "Allow me to pick your brain". :D
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7559/toppic2dte4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/3092/toppic2czx9.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5333/toonwe3.jpg
"He´s dead all right - beaked in the back...and you
know, this won´t be easy to solve"
:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny
Coonskinner
03-17-2007, 06:06 AM
Well, I personally would like to be able to tan people's hides if they deserve it.
:D
Me too, Aunty:)
There ain't nothin' like skinning a skunk that heeds skinning. :)
But I try to stay within the rules of the house here.
John Atkinson
03-17-2007, 06:19 AM
LOL! I didn't realize that penguins are birds and that they spend most of their time in the water.
I always kind of wondered about the black and white. The white made sense because they blend in with snow and ice but I couldn't figure out the black.
Black enables them to blend in with the water. Makes sense seein's how they spend so much time there.
:)
http://microscope.mbl.edu/baypaul/microscope/talks/biogeography/biogeogtalk/img003.jpg
Me too, Aunty:)
There ain't nothin' like skinning a skunk that heeds skinning. :)
But I try to stay within the rules of the house here.
I know the feeling...
John Atkinson
03-17-2007, 07:17 AM
Me too, Aunty:)
There ain't nothin' like skinning a skunk that heeds skinning. :)
But I try to stay within the rules of the house here.
I have in my time skinned many of critters, but never a skunk. That must be a defining experience.
But I understand the metaphor Dr. Coon. There have been many of times I wanted to plaster someone to the wall and a couple of times have done it, and afterwards felt like banning myself.
RevDWW
03-17-2007, 07:18 AM
Skinning skunks won't transform them into coon dogs.
Coonskinner
03-17-2007, 07:19 AM
Skinning skunks won't transform them into coon dogs.
Of course it won't; but it stops them from prancing around with their tail up, ruining everyone's peace of mind. :)
RevDWW
03-17-2007, 07:52 AM
Of course it won't; but it stops them from prancing around with their tail up, ruining everyone's peace of mind. :)
True, but a skinned skunk is a skunk none the less, and skinning it does not make it smell any sweeter. :toofunny
And the skunk had better be dead before the careful skinning starts are you end up smelling like that which you would skin.
I wasn't talking about that kind of humour Chan. I was talking about the you know....... *hahaha* ..... kind.
As for unfairness, like I said, some can get away with more than others. It's always been that way and always will be. We ALL feel as if we've been treated unfairly at one time or other.
We have to just suck it up and keep on going. :) Big boys and girls do that.
You mean there's a kind of humor that is NOT meant to be funny (as in "hahaha")?
Felicity
03-17-2007, 01:21 PM
You mean there's a kind of humor that is NOT meant to be funny (as in "hahaha")?Of course there is Chan. Lighten up! I never see you smiling or posting in a lighthearted way or from a merry heart. :nah
How come?
Your personality here on these forums seems one dimensional. We need to see the other side .... the HAPPY side.
:)
Felicity
03-17-2007, 01:25 PM
Me too, Aunty:)
There ain't nothin' like skinning a skunk that heeds skinning. :)
But I try to stay within the rules of the house here. Right! :igotit
But is there a painless way of tanning a hide or skinning a skunk while they're still living? :heeheehee
Right! :igotit
But is there a painless way of tanning a hide or skinning a skunk while they're still living? :heeheehee
Ouch!!
tbpew
03-19-2007, 11:40 AM
another interesting thing demonstrated by these beautiful birds called Penguins (that sadly stirred such an unpleasant image in the Antagonist's mind),
They connect with each other because they desperately need each other.
They take turns cycling from the outer edge to the center. They fully demonstrate a societial wellness without any preeminence of any singular individual. I feel safe to speculate that Diotrephes was not a penguin lover!
What a stark contrast to chasing dissenting views up a tree and shooting them while in the dark!
Penguins are very beautiful.
Felicity
03-19-2007, 11:43 AM
Right! :igotit
But is there a painless way of tanning a hide or skinning a skunk while they're still living? :heeheehee
Ouch!! LOL! What?!! That isn't very helpful!
Can you skin a skunk with such skill that they don't even know it happened? :heeheehee
LOL! What?!! That isn't very helpful!
Can you skin a skunk with such skill that they don't even know it happened? :heeheehee
My sister, I believe you could...I know I could!!:winkgrin
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