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[Digging4Truth]

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[rgcraig]

Who is speaking?

[Digging4Truth]

Not sure... i just fired it up myself and I don't know who is speaking tonight.

[Digging4Truth]

I think it's brother Poe

[Old Paths]

It looks like some of the folks on the platform aren'y exactly thrilled.

Hee heeeeeeeeeeee

[rgcraig]

He's a screamer whoever he is.

[Digging4Truth]

It looks like some of the folks on the platform aren'y exactly thrilled.

Hee heeeeeeeeeeee

LOL.... could be.

[Digging4Truth]

Yep.... he just verified it... it is Brother Poe

[Brother Price]

This man needed to preach this at GC!

[Digging4Truth]

I don't foresee them having Brother Poe preach at GC. :)

[Annie]

I will not sit and listen to a man of God call a lady an idiot.
Sorry, not for me....ENJOY!!!!

[Brother Price]

Nah... "...make my day!"

[Brother Price]

He is straightforward. Thank God for a man that will not be intimidated. Lord, make more preachers that straightforward.

[rgcraig]

That is very offensive. If the story is real, she might hear it and that is just wrong!

[rrford]

I don't foresee them having Brother Poe preach at GC. :)

Nope.

[Annie]

That is very offensive. If the story is real, she might hear it and that is just wrong!

I can't stand it. He did not have to say that...

[Brother Price]

I got news for everyone. Men like this will bring revival. I would rather have a man of God that is honest enough to say what he means, than a sweet talker who can't do nothing for me!

[rrford]

LOL!. He is straightforward. Enough so to call a lady an idiot and some want him to preach at GC. :toofunny

I would dearly love to be there when he does so...:slaphappy

[Just a Shepherd]

Nope.

Why not?

[Annie]

He is straightforward. Thank God for a man that will not be intimidated. Lord, make more preachers that straightforward.


Glad you like him, brother. Enjoy!!

[rrford]

I got news for everyone. Men like this will bring revival. I would rather have a man of God that is honest enough to say what he means, than a sweet talker who can't do nothing for me!

For what it is worth, one message in a singular Conference is no indication that this is the kind of man or message that will bring revival. You need to hear some of the other messages before making such a statement, IMO.

[Brother Price]

Y'all should be listening to the last part of this message.

[RevDWW]

LOL!. He is straightforward. Enough so to call a lady an idiot and some want him to preach at GC. :toofunny

I would dearly love to be there when he does so...:slaphappy

And why is that?:winkgrin

[rrford]

Why not?

Just my opinion.

[rgcraig]

Y'all should be listening to the last part of this message.I'm trying to.

[Annie]

Y'all should be listening to the last part of this message.


I will never listen to this man again- no matter where he preaches.

Enjoy!!

[Felicity]

I tuned in but find him very hard to listen to.

[Brother Price]

I feel a good old fashioned shout coming on!

[rgcraig]

CC1 would love this.

[Brother Price]

Thank you D4T for posting this. I feel some power in this message, a real power in my heart being reignited! Thank You Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rgcraig]

Well, my pizza is here.

[rrford]

Well, my pizza is here.

:slaphappy :toofunny

Now that was just funny!

[Just a Shepherd]

Those guitar and bass riffs are really out of place there. Makes the whole thing surreal...

[Carpenter]

Gordon Poe?? At General Conference?

Personally, I would like for him to go and preach the sermon in which he mentioned that men in the church dress their daughters/allow them to dress in skanky clothing that their wives won't wear for purposes of lusting after their own daughters!

He is also the one who said that wearing Nike shoes and shopping at places and buying things at places with logos in which we are unaware of their origin is akin to debbil worship.

...oh yea, and the time he told all us "brown faces" in the congregation all the spanish he knew...which was nothing but cusswords.

He could also spend 2/3rds of his sermon telling everyone how BAAAAD he used to be like he does most of the time too.

I would love to see Gordon Poe preach GC on TV, you would hear the crack like one of those glaciers popping off the polar ice cap.

Anyone can say, "THANK YOU JESUS" and get people feeling like they could shout.

[Annie]

I feel a good old fashioned shout coming on!


Diversity in the Body of Christ is a wonderful thing...

[Brother Price]

Wow! If he is so bad a man, how come he was holding the pulpit for TOR??? Maybe he has not done all people have said he has done, and they just have a problem with the message.

[Carpenter]

Wow! If he is so bad a man, how come he was holding the pulpit for TOR??? Maybe he has not done all people have said he has done, and they just have a problem with the message.

Hey, I was there pal! I heard him with my own ears! I even called him that next week, told him who I was, what church I went to, and asked if I heard him correctly!! He fervently stood by his word and said if I didn't like it I could go on with all the other compromisers.

NO ONE SAID HE IS A BAD MAN! In my opinion, he is one of those who like to get and gain attention by saying outrageous stuff behind the pulpit.

[OGIA]

Wow! If he is so bad a man, how come he was holding the pulpit for TOR??? Maybe he has not done all people have said he has done, and they just have a problem with the message.

Well, Bro. Price, he kinda started TOR, so it's like asking why Bro. Mangun preaches at BOTT. :winkgrin

I was there last night for Bro. Arnold. Good message; not much new in it, but a good exhortation and simple faith healing afterwards.

[CC1]

CC1 would love this.

LOL!! I didn't get to hear it but I am guessing it is one of those sermons and preaching styles that UPC folks are all the time trying to tell me is no longer the norm in the good ole UPC but I seem to find all too often.

[LaGirl]

He's a screamer whoever he is.

it MUST be Poe!

[LaGirl]

Wow! If he is so bad a man, how come he was holding the pulpit for TOR??? Maybe he has not done all people have said he has done, and they just have a problem with the message.

TOR is HIS conf. He started it!

[Pressing-On]

Gordon Poe?? At General Conference?

Personally, I would like for him to go and preach the sermon in which he mentioned that men in the church dress their daughters/allow them to dress in skanky clothing that their wives won't wear for purposes of lusting after their own daughters!

He is also the one who said that wearing Nike shoes and shopping at places and buying things at places with logos in which we are unaware of their origin is akin to debbil worship.

...oh yea, and the time he told all us "brown faces" in the congregation all the spanish he knew...which was nothing but cusswords.

He could also spend 2/3rds of his sermon telling everyone how BAAAAD he used to be like he does most of the time too.

I would love to see Gordon Poe preach GC on TV, you would hear the crack like one of those glaciers popping off the polar ice cap.

Anyone can say, "THANK YOU JESUS" and get people feeling like they could shout.
What? Carpenter, I know him personally. What in the world did he say?

We have had nothing but awesome services when we are in session with him. Our youth have received the Holy Ghost at TOF.

I have been friends with a particular women for 16 years who has had nothing but hell and mistakes in her life because she made a terrible mistake as a new convert and the churches won't let her forget it.

I knew that she really loved God, but she just couldn't get up.

During a service I saw Brother Poe looking at her and I knew he wanted to tell her something, but he stopped and went on. That night he did call her out and just about told her where her life was at - without the sorted details, BTW - and he told her that God loved her and that He had forgiven her and she finally broke through all the repressive condemnation that the church held over her head for years! He looked at the audience and said, "God has forgiven this women and if you bring up her past again you will answer to God."

You can say what you want, but I thought I would never see this women get the victory over her past. And thank God he told the church to stop pushing her down! We have enough of our own self-condemnation without the church offering their share when mistakes are made!

The awesome part, which Brother Poe didn't know, about the morning service was the preacher that had hurt her the most was in the audience that morning and she would not have been able to get past that if he had called her out that morning. The man wasn't there that night.

[Brother Price]

Well, all I know is this. Some people will hear what they want to hear. SOme will make up things. Some will exagerate things. Some will do whatever they can to discredit the message. But, the message he preached last night stirred me. I awoke this morning, after a wonderful night's sleep, hoping I did not oversleep, and remember his message, and I will not be intimidated. He preached under the anointing, and told it like it is. You make up excuses as to why you would never hear him again, and that is between you and Jesus. But, I will find a way to e-mail or write this brother, thanking him for being obedient.

He preached right last night. Since TOR is his conference, he has a right to preach however the Lord leads. He preached holiness last night, and preached some straight stuff. It was not politically correct, and it definitely was not Joel Osteen mushy. I was an Apostolic message, striaght from the lips of Jesus Christ to our ears. He who has an ear, let them hear what the Spirit says to the Churches.

[Barb]

Well, all I know is this. Some people will hear what they want to hear. SOme will make up things. Some will exagerate things. Some will do whatever they can to discredit the message. But, the message he preached last night stirred me. I awoke this morning, after a wonderful night's sleep, hoping I did not oversleep, and remember his message, and I will not be intimidated. He preached under the anointing, and told it like it is. You make up excuses as to why you would never hear him again, and that is between you and Jesus. But, I will find a way to e-mail or write this brother, thanking him for being obedient.

He preached right last night. Since TOR is his conference, he has a right to preach however the Lord leads. He preached holiness last night, and preached some straight stuff. It was not politically correct, and it definitely was not Joel Osteen mushy. I was an Apostolic message, striaght from the lips of Jesus Christ to our ears. He who has an ear, let them hear what the Spirit says to the Churches.
I respectfully have news for you, Brother Price...I have been in and around the Apostolic Pentecostal Church for 55 years and the message, though often direct and straight, does NOT have to be offensive.

If it were one or two voices saying something was amiss, one could make the claim that they have an axe to grind or are nitpicking or whatever. But when as many as we heard last night ALL say the same thing, it is not everyone else...

And for the record...I have 'known' Carp a few years now, and though we do not agree on every point, he is not the type of man to make things up, exaggerate, or anything else you claimed.

He stated that he called the elder and asked if he heard him right, was told he did hear correctly and then he so much as called Carp a "compromiser."

You have your opinion...fine and good, but to accuse these fine people of making things up because they don't agree is outrageous. They were not discrediting the message or the messenger, but one must remember there is a difference between the two.

And while I'm on a Sunday norning roll, screamers don't make it for me either. A raised voice in the heat of anointed excitement is one thing...that happens with Pentecostal preaching. But sreaming so that the message cannot be understood or is distracting is not for me...

[Garfield]

Go Gordon Go. Poe is on a one man mission to save the UPC from the compromisers.

[Barb]

Go Gordon Go. Poe is on a one man mission to save the UPC from the compromisers.

*sigh* I despise that word...!! No offense to you, I just feel this way everytime I see or hear it.

[IAintMovin]

*sigh* I despise that word...!! No offense to you, I just feel this way everytime I see or hear it.Pay Garfield no mind at all, simply trying to tweek someone - no substance, just a bunch of close to the line insults and questioning what others stand for. Pay them no mind at all, do as I do and realize how childish they are in their post.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Pay Garfield no mind at all, simply trying to tweek someone - no substance, just a bunch of close to the line insults and questioning what others stand for. Pay them no mind at all, do as I do and realize how childish they are in their post.

Prediction- Eventually the infractions and reported posts will give him a ticket to banville.

:tiphat

[Garfield]

I am so sorry. Really never meant to be offensive. Rather than wait why not go ahead and ban now. It seems like that's what some want anyway. :(

[IAintMovin]

Prediction- Eventually the infractions and reported posts will give him a ticket to banville.

:tiphatI think some come on here with that in mind. Sad when they could have good thoughts to add to the forum.

[Barb]

I am so sorry. Really never meant to be offensive. Rather than wait why not go ahead and ban now. It seems like that's what some want anyway. :(

I never said that...

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

I am so sorry. Really never meant to be offensive. Rather than wait why not go ahead and ban now. It seems like that's what some want anyway. :(

Yeah, right.

Lose the Borat avatar and stop with the posts that are close to an insult.

:happydance

[Carpenter]

Well, all I know is this. Some people will hear what they want to hear. SOme will make up things. Some will exagerate things. Some will do whatever they can to discredit the message.

Are you calling me a liar? I heard this stuff verbatim and gave him the benefit of the doubt. What he said bothered me so much, I contacted him to make sure I DID HEAR IT AND UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT PROPERLY!!! He confirmed it. I didn't ask him about the cussing in spanish, but one friend came to me after his diatribe and jokingly asked, "I wonder how Brother Mariscol interpreted that?!! (the spanish interpreter to people wearing headphones in the congregation).

Did you even read my post? You better say something here because I am getting pretty ticked right now and could say a host of things you wouldn't like.

I don't care how good someone can preach, in fact they may be a pretty good preacher, however anyone can sell lemonade to people who are thirsty and last time I checked, Gordon Poe IS NOT THE message...Jesus is.

[Carpenter]

What? Carpenter, I know him personally. What in the world did he say?

We have had nothing but awesome services when we are in session with him. Our youth have received the Holy Ghost at TOF.

I have been friends with a particular women for 16 years who has had nothing but hell and mistakes in her life because she made a terrible mistake as a new convert and the churches won't let her forget it.

I knew that she really loved God, but she just couldn't get up.

During a service I saw Brother Poe looking at her and I knew he wanted to tell her something, but he stopped and went on. That night he did call her out and just about told her where her life was at - without the sorted details, BTW - and he told her that God loved her and that He had forgiven her and she finally broke through all the repressive condemnation that the church held over her head for years! He looked at the audience and said, "God has forgiven this women and if you bring up her past again you will answer to God."

You can say what you want, but I thought I would never see this women get the victory over her past. And thank God he told the church to stop pushing her down! We have enough of our own self-condemnation without the church offering their share when mistakes are made!

The awesome part, which Brother Poe didn't know, about the morning service was the preacher that had hurt her the most was in the audience that morning and she would not have been able to get past that if he had called her out that morning. The man wasn't there that night.

PO, no-one, especially me said anything about his effectiveness or his ministry. I am saying I do not like nor do I agree with his style. But that is him. He has to live with it.

During one service he got up to the pulpit and said, "I see a lot a brown faces here tonight (a church of about 500), I don't know Spanish, I wish I did, the only spanish I know is (he said at least 5-6 explatives in spanish that if I repeated them here I would be censured)."

He is a shock jock, who thinks he can say anything.

I got so I just couldn't handle time after time reference after reference of how bad he was out in the world. Who cares.

He has preached and said some outlandish stuff and I wish...well maybe I should be glad...that I cannot remember all of it. I remember sitting in church one time honestly feeling sorry for his family...

[berkeley]

Annointing is not validation... or is it?

[Brother Price]

Are you calling me a liar? I heard this stuff verbatim and gave him the benefit of the doubt. What he said bothered me so much, I contacted him to make sure I DID HEAR IT AND UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT PROPERLY!!! He confirmed it. I didn't ask him about the cussing in spanish, but one friend came to me after his diatribe and jokingly asked, "I wonder how Brother Mariscol interpreted that?!! (the spanish interpreter to people wearing headphones in the congregation).

Did you even read my post? You better say something here because I am getting pretty ticked right now and could say a host of things you wouldn't like.

I don't care how good someone can preach, in fact they may be a pretty good preacher, however anyone can sell lemonade to people who are thirsty.


Three things:

1. Do not TELL me to respond. You ain't God or my pastor. If you got ticked at what I said, so be it. I must have hit a nerve. If you interpreted that I called you a liar, then accept that as well. Though I did not mention names or incidents. I made a statement that got your ire up and you took it personally.

2. You clearly have a problem with Bro. Poe. That is between you and him. If he said what he said, I would like to hear the tape on which he said those things.

3. You need to really chill out. I believe the problem arose when someone mentioned a conservative preacher who shucks the corn right, and people love to hate real men of God. When one person said something against what Bro. Poe said in the message, you jumped in. Sounds like a bandwagon to me.

Now, I have said my piece. I have just come home from a wonderful church service, and am awaiting to go out onto the streets after I do some work this evening. There will be a harvest from it. So, say what you want from here on. I do not have time to get into a battle of wits.

[Barb]

Annointing is not validation... or is it?

No way, Berk...

God honors His Word even when the vessel is less than what they should be.

[berkeley]

No way, Berk...

God honors His Word even when the vessel is less than what they should be.Thank you!!!:grampa

[Barb]

Three things:

1. Do not TELL me to respond. You ain't God or my pastor. If you got ticked at what I said, so be it. I must have hit a nerve. If you interpreted that I called you a liar, then accept that as well. Though I did not mention names or incidents. I made a statement that got your ire up and you took it personally.

2. You clearly have a problem with Bro. Poe. That is between you and him. If he said what he said, I would like to hear the tape on which he said those things.

3. You need to really chill out. I believe the problem arose when someone mentioned a conservative preacher who shucks the corn right, and people love to hate real men of God. When one person said something against what Bro. Poe said in the message, you jumped in. Sounds like a bandwagon to me.

Now, I have said my piece. I have just come home from a wonderful church service, and am awaiting to go out onto the streets after I do some work this evening. There will be a harvest from it. So, say what you want from here on. I do not have time to get into a battle of wits.

*sigh*

[Carpenter]

Three things:

...I must have hit a nerve. If you interpreted that I called you a liar, then accept that as well...

2. You clearly have a problem with Bro. Poe. That is between you and him. If he said what he said, I would like to hear the tape on which he said those things.

3. You need to really chill out. I believe the problem arose when someone mentioned a conservative preacher who shucks the corn right, and people love to hate real men of God. When one person said something against what Bro. Poe said in the message, you jumped in. Sounds like a bandwagon to me.



1. You did not hit a nerve. You would respond the exact same way if someone were to call your integrity into question. I suppose you are calling G.P. a liar too because he confirmed to me that he meant what he said and the way he said it! This is not a THAD'S TAB-type situation pal.

2. Send me a PM and I will tell you which church and give you the name of the tape guy so he can send you the 15 or so tapeS.

3. G.P. does not "shuck the corn right", insulting people and making outrageous leaps in logic does not shuck the corn, it only encites the crowd.
I also resent your comments implying that I hate a real man of God and I don't hate G.P.

I will say that I do not respect his brand of ministry...at least not now.

G.P. came out in his typical manner slinging insults and people took issue...this is his SOP, this is his reputation. It is the same reason that Howard Stern is so popular, people can't wait to hear the next ignorant thing that comes out of his mouth.

Unfortunatly the outlandish overshadows the good.

[Brother Price]

I am going to PM you. But, this comparing a man of God to Howard Stern is bashing. Bro. Poe (yes, I will give him the dignity and honor deserved by calling him brother) is a man of God who preaches it straight. He is not politically correct, and many in the modern church world consider him crude and rude, but he is right on with what he says.

Outlandish is for those who stood in the Temple as Jesus turned over the moneychangers' tables. Outlandish is to those Jesus used the whip on. Am I defending him? Absolutely! I knew him years ago, and I finally remembered where from. An old church I got my holiness standards originally out of, Bro. Jack White's church. He came and preached, and tore me up. Wished I had heeded to what he said then, cause it would not have gfotten me into the messes I have gotten into.

So, look for the PM soon.

[CC1]

Carp,

How dare you criticize a man who can "shuck the corn" and "preaches it straight". We all know that being loud and crude is true annointing and for some reason there just isn't muich of it anymore.

If a man is not screaming and insulting then obviously he is a compromiser and not preaching the word the way it should be.

[Pressing-On]

PO, no-one, especially me said anything about his effectiveness or his ministry. I am saying I do not like nor do I agree with his style. But that is him. He has to live with it.

During one service he got up to the pulpit and said, "I see a lot a brown faces here tonight (a church of about 500), I don't know Spanish, I wish I did, the only spanish I know is (he said at least 5-6 explatives in spanish that if I repeated them here I would be censured)."

He is a shock jock, who thinks he can say anything.

I got so I just couldn't handle time after time reference after reference of how bad he was out in the world. Who cares.

He has preached and said some outlandish stuff and I wish...well maybe I should be glad...that I cannot remember all of it. I remember sitting in church one time honestly feeling sorry for his family...

Thanks, Carpenter. I understand. I have to agree that, sometimes, he's a little more direct than you would expect. I guess when you've been around him and heard him talk you just overlook some of those things, ummm, kinda like you do your pastor. Hehehehehehe!

He'll be the first to say that he was not called to pastor and wouldn't even be a good pastor. My husband agrees with him. lol!

He came from a rough background and from what I have seen it really captures the attention of our youth. He identifies with them in a personal way. My kids love him. I guess he appeals to me because he never turned into Peter Pentecost that lives on a cloud. He gets down and dirty with it and isn't arrogant either, IMO. NOR, do I think he's showmanship material. That is not the impression I get from him. Very anointed things going on.

He was in a service, just recently, where he told a young UPC girl, who was "Miss Thang" with the big hair. He told her that if she didn't start worshipping he was going to mess up her hair. Hahahahahahahaha! She started worshipping and ended up dancing all over the place. His point - worship God and quite worrying about your stupid hair and your clothes, especially your tight clothes. lol! The teens went wild on that one.

Lots of things of this nature go on in his services. We love being around him. Hey, I don't get to watch Saturday Night Live anymore. We watch Brother Poe. Hahahahahahahaha!

BTW, my son told me he is also learning Spanish at work and it's all bad words. lol! I said, "Rattle em off. I know them all." Hahahahahahhaaha! j/k!

[tv1a]

It sounds like GP is a preacher who's specialty is scaring people straight. The unfortunate thing about that style is it gets old quick and people become immuned to it. There are only so many times one can use the "the boogey man is going to get" routine before people begin to tune you out. I hope for GP's sake he adjusts if he doesn't he'll lose more than God wants lost.

[Carpenter]

I am going to PM you. But, this comparing a man of God to Howard Stern is bashing. Bro. Poe (yes, I will give him the dignity and honor deserved by calling him brother) is a man of God who preaches it straight. He is not politically correct, and many in the modern church world consider him crude and rude, but he is right on with what he says.

Outlandish is for those who stood in the Temple as Jesus turned over the moneychangers' tables. Outlandish is to those Jesus used the whip on. Am I defending him? Absolutely! I knew him years ago, and I finally remembered where from. An old church I got my holiness standards originally out of, Bro. Jack White's church. He came and preached, and tore me up. Wished I had heeded to what he said then, cause it would not have gfotten me into the messes I have gotten into.

So, look for the PM soon.

Great, he is crude and rude but he is right on...well, if that is your brand of church, then you have at it, but I will never, could never humiliate God by inviting a visitor or someone who really needs something from God to one of his services...no way.

[Carpenter]

Thanks, Carpenter. I understand. I have to agree that, sometimes, he's a little more direct than you would expect. I guess when you've been around him and heard him talk you just overlook some of those things, ummm, kinda like you do your pastor. Hehehehehehe!

He'll be the first to say that he was not called to pastor and wouldn't even be a good pastor. My husband agrees with him. lol!

He came from a rough background and from what I have seen it really captures the attention of our youth. He identifies with them in a personal way. My kids love him. I guess he appeals to me because he never turned into Peter Pentecost that lives on a cloud. He gets down and dirty with it and isn't arrogant either, IMO. NOR, do I think he's showmanship material. That is not the impression I get from him. Very anointed things going on.

He was in a service, just recently, where he told a young UPC girl, who was "Miss Thang" with the big hair. He told her that if she didn't start worshipping he was going to mess up her hair. Hahahahahahahaha! She started worshipping and ended up dancing all over the place. His point - worship God and quite worrying about your stupid hair and your clothes, especially your tight clothes. lol! The teens went wild on that one.

Lots of things of this nature go on in his services. We love being around him. Hey, I don't get to watch Saturday Night Live anymore. We watch Brother Poe. Hahahahahahahaha!

BTW, my son told me he is also learning Spanish at work and it's all bad words. lol! I said, "Rattle em off. I know them all." Hahahahahahhaaha! j/k!


PO, you are the voice of temperment on this topic...I cannot pretend.

[CC1]

Lucky for Mr. Poe there are plenty of Brother Price's in old time Pentecost who will insure he has a place to bluster....er.....minister.

As Carp mentioned I can't imagine inviting a visitor to hear this kind of preaching. It is just sad when Pentecostals honestly think this is the gospel and what the world needs.

Some think preaching is either this or no meat and that is just not true.

[seguidordejesus]

CC1 - I thought about you today when I visited a small rural Pentecostal church, and the guest minister preached about standards for 1.5 hours. :)

[Pressing-On]

CC1 - I thought about you today when I visited a small rural Pentecostal church, and the guest minister preached about standards for 1.5 hours. :)
:killinme :killinme

[Pressing-On]

PO, you are the voice of temperment on this topic...I cannot pretend.
And I am pretending?

O.K. I confess that I put up with him because he's nice looking and dresses to the nines. lol!

[Pressing-On]

It sounds like GP is a preacher who's specialty is scaring people straight. The unfortunate thing about that style is it gets old quick and people become immuned to it. There are only so many times one can use the "the boogey man is going to get" routine before people begin to tune you out. I hope for GP's sake he adjusts if he doesn't he'll lose more than God wants lost.
Sorry, you're wrong. He doesn't scare people straight. We have people with rings on every part of their bodies, tattoos, sick, etc being saved and healed.

If you sat down and ate with him you wouldn't have that impression of him at all.

I guess I just have to like him.

[seguidordejesus]

I go to the church that was the last church his dad pastored (to my knowledge). My wife grew up with his father going to her church in Kilgore, TX. My church has never invited he or his father back to speak, that I know of, but I'd be interested in hearing them at least once. :)

[Pressing-On]

I go to the church that was the last church his dad pastored (to my knowledge). My wife grew up with his father going to her church in Kilgore, TX. My church has never invited he or his father back to speak, that I know of, but I'd be interested in hearing them at least once. :)
LOL! He said the only criteria that his father had for anyone to be on the Church Board - Can you cast out devils? Are you afraid?

LOL!

[seguidordejesus]

LOL! He said the only criteria that his father had for anyone to be on the Church Board - Can you cast out devils? Are you afraid?

LOL!

ROFL!!! I've heard that it was quite the place to be there for a while, lots of excitement! :)

[Pressing-On]

ROFL!!! I've heard that it was quite the place to be there for a while, lots of excitement! :)
He can be rude, I have to admit that, but he is so anointed and on target for the most part. I just ignore the other. I don't know why he doesn't bother me.

I guess except for the gangs and being a drug dealer I can identify with his past and his line of thinking. I sure couldn't follow someone that was raised in church and had never been down that low and listen to them act like him.

If I'm making excuses for him, I guess I am. I just like him.

My son says, "Man, Brother Poe is the coolest!" lol!

[seguidordejesus]

Well, I don't know either Bro. Poe, so can't speak for them. There is another guy that grew up in that church who's about 30-35 who has a quite similar speaking style...maybe something in the water??? some of that oil leaked in the water treatment system?

[Pressing-On]

Well, I don't know either Bro. Poe, so can't speak for them. There is another guy that grew up in that church who's about 30-35 who has a quite similar speaking style...maybe something in the water??? some of that oil leaked in the water treatment system?
He's had some really colorful experiences. I guess that's why I can tolerate him - just like Jeff Arnold.

I've told my sister's some of the things I've done, places I've been, people I've met, etc. - it's so colorful they think I was lying. LOL!

I can identify with Brother Poe. :happydance

[LaGirl]

i know for a FACT at a TOR a few years ago, they did not release the schedule, just told who was preaching. The reason was, Poe was not drawing the crowd. the other 2 preachers drew LARGE crowds.

[rgcraig]

He was a bit hard to listen to last night....and the comment about the idiot lady was over the top for me.

[Brother Price]

If Poe comes to Houston, and he preaches here, if it be not a regular church night, I am there!

[LaGirl]

He was a bit hard to listen to last night....and the comment about the idiot lady was over the top for me.

yeah i read about that. he is not my favorite at all. was he telling a story and said a lady was an idiot, or did he actually call a lady in the crowd an idiot?

[LaGirl]

If Poe comes to Houston, and he preaches here, if it be not a regular church night, I am there!

doesnt he live in houston somewhere?

[Pressing-On]

He was a bit hard to listen to last night....and the comment about the idiot lady was over the top for me.

What was he talking about - the exact point? I know a lot of women that are idiots. lol!

[Pressing-On]

doesnt he live in houston somewhere?

Yes, in Friendswood. I used to live in Friendswood in 1982.

[rgcraig]

yeah i read about that. he is not my favorite at all. was he telling a story and said a lady was an idiot, or did he actually call a lady in the crowd an idiot?

Telling a story about a lady coming up to him to ask him a question. Referred to her as being an idiot with the question she asked.

[Pressing-On]

Telling a story about a lady coming up to him to ask him a question. Referred to her as being an idiot with the question she asked.

Well, she probably was. And knowing him he is talking about the ones that get in your face and are stupid.

[rgcraig]

Well, she probably was. And knowing him he is talking about the ones that get in your face and are stupid.

The story was if he was "of God", then she wanted him to come tell her what was in her life and he didn't after many services. Then he whispered to her that if she didn't want him to tell that she was living in an adulterous affair that she better run to the altar. He counted 1-2-3 and whoever got their first would determine if he told the congregation or not.

[Pressing-On]

The story was if he was "of God", then she wanted him to come tell her what was in her life and he didn't after many services. Then he whispered to her that if she didn't want him to tell that she was living in an adulterous affair that she better run to the altar. He counted 1-2-3 and whoever got their first would determine if he told the congregation or not.

He's right. She's an idiot. LOL!

[Brother Price]

PO, you just got the Poe Politically Incorrect Award for this post.

I agree, incedentally! :)

[Pressing-On]

The story was if he was "of God", then she wanted him to come tell her what was in her life and he didn't after many services. Then he whispered to her that if she didn't want him to tell that she was living in an adulterous affair that she better run to the altar. He counted 1-2-3 and whoever got their first would determine if he told the congregation or not.

BTW, Renda, what women in her right mind is going to issue an idiotic challenge to a "real" man and think there will be no repercussion for it?

She was an idiot for challenging him. She's, in fact, saying, "I have sin in my life. If you are a prophet of God then tell me what it is."

That is just so stupid, I wonder if she could even find a place of repentance.

So, again, Brother Poe is right - She's an idiot!

[rgcraig]

BTW, Renda, what women in her right mind is going to issue an idiotic challenge to a "real" man and think there will be no repercussion for it?

She was an idiot for challenging him. She's, in fact, saying, "I have sin in my life. If you are a prophet of God then tell me what it is."

That is just so stupid, I wonder if she could even find a place of repentance.

So, again, Brother Poe is right - She's an idiot!

Apparently, she did that night. I just hope she doesn't hear his sermon last night.

[Pressing-On]

Apparently, she did that night. I just hope she doesn't hear his sermon last night.

Why did she? Because the cat was out of the bag and she didn't want anyone to know. Was she really sorry or just caught?

So, what did it prove? That he knew the "exact" sin in her life? Yes, he did. He was just going to let her deal with it until she challenged him.

[rgcraig]

Why did she? Because the cat was out of the bag and she didn't want anyone to know. Was she really sorry or just caught?

So, what did it prove? That he knew the "exact" sin in her life? Yes, he did. He was just going to let her deal with it until she challenged him.

I know what you are saying, but it was just the way he told it. No, she got the real thing that night from what he told in his story anyway.

[Ron]

Well, I don't know this Brother Poe, but if you are brass and bold enough to challenge a man of God you are on shaky ground to bigin with.

On another aside, I have heard Pastor preach in reffering to me (and others) as a Choleric personality, that to challenge us Cholerics isn't the way to get things accomplished.:D



There I hijacked the thread!

[Pressing-On]

I know what you are saying, but it was just the way he told it. No, she got the real thing that night from what he tol in his story anyway.
I know him well enough to know that he isn't going to let a women get in his face.

Also, he told her she better make it to the alter before he did.

So, my question remains - Was she really sorry or just caught?

I hope she felt sorry by the time she got there. Being that he didn't name her, there is no one that could know who she was.

I still think I agree with his assessment of her.

I read the story to Joel before he went to bed. He said, "Did he say that? I'm getting off of work so I can hear him preach." lol!

Well, I'm off to bed also. Night!

[rgcraig]

Nite!

He sounded sincere in relaying the story of her getting saved. I "think" that was the whole point anyway.

[Pressing-On]

Well, I don't know this Brother Poe, but if you are brass and bold enough to challenge a man of God you are on shaky ground to bigin with.

On another aside, I have heard Pastor preach in reffering to me (and others) as a Choleric personality, that to challenge us Cholerics isn't the way to get things accomplished.:D



There I hijacked the thread!

Thank you, my friend. I knew someone would see the deal in it.

The whole point is this - HE DID KNOW WHAT HER SIN WAS and she was an idiot for saying, "I have sin. If you're a prophet tell me what it is."

Oh brother! Now I've heard it all!

[Pressing-On]

Nite!

He sounded sincere in relaying the story of her getting saved. I "think" that was the whole point anyway.
Good. I hope she was sincere.

Night.

[rgcraig]

Thank you, my friend. I knew someone would see the deal in it.

The whole point is this - HE DID KNOW WHAT HER SIN WAS and she was an idiot for saying, "I have sin. If you're a prophet tell me what it is."

Oh brother! Now I've heard it all!

She said she hoped he had a "word" for her. I think I did say earlier that he'd tell her what was in her life, but she wanted a word. He GAVE her one.

[Pressing-On]

She said she hoped he had a "word" for her. I think I did say earlier that he'd tell her what was in her life, but she wanted a word. He GAVE her one.
Well, being I didn't hear it, I can only go by what you first said. It sounds like a malicious challenge and not a "I hope" you have a word for me.

The story was if he was "of God", then she wanted him to come tell her what was in her life and he didn't after many services. Then he whispered to her that if she didn't want him to tell that she was living in an adulterous affair that she better run to the altar. He counted 1-2-3 and whoever got their first would determine if he told the congregation or not.


I'm sorry, Renda. I'm just picturing this women in a bad light after that and because of the other stories he's told us of similar women like that. It's too hilarious the things he does. lol!

[revrandy]

Not a "Poe" fan here.....

[Pressing-On]

Not a "Poe" fan here.....
LOL!

Revrandy,
After having defended him a bit I also want to say - Don't think he hasn't ticked us off on occasion, he has, but overall I sort of like him.

Jeff Arnold calls the whole audience idiots and liars. Gordon Poe points out the exact ones that are. What is the difference? lol!

[Brother Price]

LOL!

Revrandy,
After having defended him a bit I also want to say - Don't think he hasn't ticked us off on occasion, he has, but overall I sort of like him.

Jeff Arnold calls the whole audience idiots and liars. Gordon Poe points out the exact ones that are. What is the difference? lol!

Exactly! :friend

[LaVonne]

Not a "Poe" fan here.....

I've never heard him...only heard very little about him.

[CC1]

CC1 - I thought about you today when I visited a small rural Pentecostal church, and the guest minister preached about standards for 1.5 hours. :)

Sounds like they are "poised for growth"!!!!

(the real question is did they preach that for 1.5 hours because you were there and they though you needed it???????? LOL!!!!)

[Steadfast]

Poe is a good man and one that I very much like. It has little to do with his 'brashness' or his 'in your face' demeanor. It has everything to do with the fact that he's true to what he is. He's not trying to impress anyone when he does these things... he is trying to get a point across and usually does it.

Bottom line, I can go a LONG way with a man that says what he means and means what he says. A lot farther than I can with people who preach things and later say, "Well, I don't think it's an issue of salvation" or "I just wanted to make them nervous."

Say what you mean, preacher, and quit dancing around with things that you don't believe! You may not have everyone happy when you're done but you'll have your integrity. :grampa

Besides, I think it's telling that the man has revival almost everywhere his feet land. Young people love him, passionate saints enjoy him and carnal Saints pray through as a general rule.

As for the person 'hearing' what he preached last night... if it stands true to the record he has she probably WAS hearing it... and 'amen-ing' him as loud as she could. I've watched the man be as hard as nails on Pastor's Kids who were backslidden, seen him pray them through and then stay close to them until they are established and productive for God. Strong tea or not, you can't ask for a more sincere person.

Now, give me someone true to what they are anyday over someone that uses the pulpit for an occupation only.

[CC1]

Poe is a good man and one that I very much like. It has little to do with his 'brashness' or his 'in your face' demeanor. It has everything to do with the fact that he's true to what he is. He's not trying to impress anyone when he does these things... he is trying to get a point across and usually does it.

Bottom line, I can go a LONG way with a man that says what he means and means what he says. A lot farther than I can with people who preach things and later say, "Well, I don't think it's an issue of salvation" or "I just wanted to make them nervous."

Say what you mean, preacher, and quit dancing around with things that you don't believe! You may not have everyone happy when you're done but you'll have your integrity. :grampa

Besides, I think it's telling that the man has revival almost everywhere his feet land. Young people love him, passionate saints enjoy him and carnal Saints pray through as a general rule.

As for the person 'hearing' what he preached last night... if it stands true to the record he has she probably WAS hearing it... and 'amen-ing' him as loud as she could. I've watched the man be as hard as nails on Pastor's Kids who were backslidden, seen him pray them through and then stay close to them until they are established and productive for God. Strong tea or not, you can't ask for a more sincere person.

No, give me someone true to what they are anyday over someone that uses the pulpit for an occupation only.


Steadfast, with all due respect I think your defense boils down to the old false conundrum once again that good preachers must be in this mould or are insincere, only occupying a pulpit, compromisers, etc,etc.

My contention is that it is possible to minister the gospel without being crude, boorish, tactless, etc.

I think it is the tolerance of some of this that encourages it. In some circles this is elevated and put on a pedestal as "shucking the corn", "preaching it straight".

[Pressing-On]

Poe is a good man and one that I very much like. It has little to do with his 'brashness' or his 'in your face' demeanor. It has everything to do with the fact that he's true to what he is. He's not trying to impress anyone when he does these things... he is trying to get a point across and usually does it.

Bottom line, I can go a LONG way with a man that says what he means and means what he says. A lot farther than I can with people who preach things and later say, "Well, I don't think it's an issue of salvation" or "I just wanted to make them nervous."

Say what you mean, preacher, and quit dancing around with things that you don't believe! You may not have everyone happy when you're done but you'll have your integrity. :grampa

Besides, I think it's telling that the man has revival almost everywhere his feet land. Young people love him, passionate saints enjoy him and carnal Saints pray through as a general rule.

As for the person 'hearing' what he preached last night... if it stands true to the record he has she probably WAS hearing it... and 'amen-ing' him as loud as she could. I've watched the man be as hard as nails on Pastor's Kids who were backslidden, seen him pray them through and then stay close to them until they are established and productive for God. Strong tea or not, you can't ask for a more sincere person.

Now, give me someone true to what they are anyday over someone that uses the pulpit for an occupation only.
Amen, Steadfast. That is Brother Poe. He is true to what he believes. He can be hard as nails, but the surprising thing is - the person he was the hardest on comes forth and gets their deliverance. I've seen it over and over.

I've seen people come to the services because they know that what he will tell them is going to be on the mark and not some showmanship stuff. He isn't playing around with what and who he is. That's for sure.

He doesn't spout off things that are not real and present in a congregation. I might add that I have heard many to have said Verbal Bean used psychology on the masses. lol!

Not many men like Brother Poe - it is the sincerity they feel. Some preach fear for reaction. He preaches truth and direction. That is where the deliverance is coming in.

This is my assessment of Brother Poe.

[Pressing-On]

Steadfast, with all due respect I think your defense boils down to the old false conundrum once again that good preachers must be in this mould or are insincere, only occupying a pulpit, compromisers, etc,etc.

My contention is that it is possible to minister the gospel without being crude, boorish, tactless, etc.

I think it is the tolerance of some of this that encourages it. In some circles this is elevated and put on a pedestal as "shucking the corn", "preaching it straight".
CC1,
Brother Poe can come across as hard, but is is surprising that the people he is addressing are glad that someone called out their sin. These people really want to come out of where they are and live right. There are people that are so bound that they need this from him. It is his ministry. I won't stand against him.

I have seen other ministers that try to be this way and they fall flat. They are using the pulpit for the office, for the authority or they are trying to change people without a burden or full knowledge.

This is Brother Poe's calling and he takes it seriously. I just don't know how to explain it any more.

[CC1]

:D

[Pressing-On]

:D.
CC1,
I also see what you are saying. It is just astonishing to see people want to hear him tell them what they are doing wrong. He just does it in a way that you can't deny that God is in that. I know it sounds amazing. It's not because of what he only says. The Spirit is present for the proof.


I talked about my friend that he addressed. I can't tell you how I walked with her, believed in her, lost hope in her, wanted to help her and in one service He stopped everything and told her exactly what was going on and that God wanted to loose her from the condemnation that had plagued her for years.

How could he know that? When he started talking to her the Spirit of the Lord was on me and I walked across the church to her. Brother Poe took my hand and laid it on her head and told me to pray for her. She was delivered. She's worshiping with me in church right now. It was the most powerful experience I have had in a long time.

I never thought I would see her be an overcomer. It was an amazing service. I like Brother Poe.

[Steadfast]

Steadfast, with all due respect I think your defense boils down to the old false conundrum once again that good preachers must be in this mould or are insincere, only occupying a pulpit, compromisers, etc,etc.

My contention is that it is possible to minister the gospel without being crude, boorish, tactless, etc.

I think it is the tolerance of some of this that encourages it. In some circles this is elevated and put on a pedestal as "shucking the corn", "preaching it straight".

CC1, I consider you a friend but you're a million miles off base on this one. I stand in 'defense' only because I do believe in him. I'm not one of those who thinks that all preaching has to be 'cut and bang'... but some of it surely is brash. One of my most revered figures in the ministry is C. M. Becton and there isn't a more gentle man alive. I'm a great student of all kinds of preaching and, hence, have NEVER said someone that wasn't being crude was insincere.

Your assumption was misguided as the 'insincere' I was referring to was those who are crude and in your face for no other reason than rile a crowd into a frenzy. What Bro. Poe is he has always been. Yet, I have no time for those who preach one thing and live another. THAT is what I was speaking of being insincere... would you not agree?

No, friend, his is not the only kind of preaching. But, the proof is in the pudding that it's surely one of many effective kinds of preaching. :tiphat

[Carpenter]

:D.


I remember in one service, he was on some rant and he turned to look at one of our elderly and highly respected ministers, a man above reproach, and a sweet sweet man sitting on the platform and asked him, "waddaya lookin' at!!!??" because he was sitting there with a smile on his face (he was 98% deaf at the time), now he is with Jesus...

I almost came out of my seat with 10 other guys ready to pounce on the guy if he took it further...Good thing, little, frail, Brother H didn't realize what he even said.

...a man of God does not intimidate an elderly preacher sitting on the platform just to get his kicks.

[IAintMovin]

:D
Love ya CC1, little over the top.

[Carpenter]

Love ya CC1, little over the top.

What was over the top about it? Ironically we are talking about truthfulness, honesty, posturing, yet someone gives an honest opinion and HE is over the top?

Hmmm...

[Pastor Keith]

To be honest I have never heard Poe preach only what I have heard. But this I know to be a fact.

He came to CLC and had a question and answer session, and when asked about what he thought about women involved in ministry, his answer was very offensive. (most likely why our friend W. Price likes him)

He stated that he thought women were only good for being pregnant and making peanut brittle.

Very poor in taste and ill willed!

Now Steadfast I am all for diverse and individuality in the Body, but that was the most ignorant and bombastic answer to a really good question. It hovered slightly above bigotry.

You cry for be true to self and honesty, but lets not simply tolerates jack... for the sake that is what a jack.... does. Note this is for example sake, and I am not calling Poe a jack... just emphasing how strongly I feel about stupid, ignorant statements said by the authority of God, no matter how honest it is.

[Digging4Truth]

Some online videos of Gordon Poe ...

In Brother Dillan's Church (http://video.mpegnation.com/a001346911964101306134515261.html)

At Parkway Pentecostal Church (http://www.mychurchwebsite.net/site/message.php?messageID=6451&churchID=560)

[Carpenter]

Some online videos of Gordon Poe ...

In Brother Dillan's Church (http://video.mpegnation.com/a001346911964101306134515261.html)

At Parkway Pentecostal Church (http://www.mychurchwebsite.net/site/message.php?messageID=6451&churchID=560)

Oh brother...I need some relief...I think I am going to go run my circular saw on the pavement two inches from my head for a half hour...

[Digging4Truth]

Oh brother...I need some relief...I think I am going to go run my circular saw on the pavement two inches from my head for a half hour...

LOL...

:slaphappy

Whatever helps brother. :)

[IAintMovin]

What was over the top about it? Ironically we are talking about truthfulness, honesty, posturing, yet someone gives an honest opinion and HE is over the top?

Hmmm...
]If you could not figure that out, I guess I would not be able to explain it to your satisfaction....Love ya bro....

[Carpenter]

]If you could not figure that out, I guess I would not be able to explain it to your satisfaction....Love ya bro....

I think it is kind of insulting actually to be able to predict my level of satisfaction and the ability that I would have to understand what you are saying. On the other hand, I would challenge you to not bow out so easily and take your thoughts to another level instead of saying essentially...

"It is an apostolic thing...you wouldn't understand."

Cmon man, have thee the stones?

[Ferd]

having given it some thought....

I see that some here clearly dont approve of GP. I am wondering why God seems to?

[Pressing-On]

Oh brother...I need some relief...I think I am going to go run my circular saw on the pavement two inches from my head for a half hour...

You have such a way with words, Carpenter! :winkgrin

[LaGirl]

Go to http://www.bossierupc.org/

Click On Webcast (right hand side of page)

Click Play

see what you started!!! :neener

[Pressing-On]

see what you started!!! :neener

:toofunny :toofunny

I can get all of his DVD's from our pastor. lol! It's not as fun as being there in person.

[StillStanding]

Somehow, I don't think Bro. Poe will be coming to Christ Church any time soon!! :D

[Carpenter]

having given it some thought....

I see that some here clearly dont approve of GP. I am wondering why God seems to?

Why do you think that God seems to approve or disapprove of any of us and based on what?

I remember a guy, married with a kid who came to our church was involved in a homo-affair, and preached very compelling and drawing messages...it seemed he was approved by God.

I am not saying G.P. or anyone else is worthy or unworthy, nor am I implying he is guilty of sin. I am asking how you know he or anyone else has this divine approval?

[Carpenter]

Somehow, I don't think Bro. Poe will be coming to Christ Church any time soon!! :D

If he did would he hear some good sensible preaching?

:D

[Pressing-On]

If he did would he hear some good sensible preaching?

:DCarpenter!!!! I'm watching him on Windows Media Player!

Hahahahahahaha! I've heard him preach this before. OMG!!!

:toofunny :toofunny

[StillStanding]

Why do you think that God seems to approve or disapprove of any of us and based on what?

I remember a guy, married with a kid who came to our church was involved in a homo-affair, and preached very compelling and drawing messages...it seemed he was approved by God.

I am not saying G.P. or anyone else is worthy or unworthy, nor am I implying he is guilty of sin. I am asking how you know he or anyone else has this divine approval?

This is a true story as told to me by Dennis Denny:

His brother Terry was at the time, a heavy cocaine user. He had been a successful evangelist before he got out of church. He was traveling the racketball pro tour. They had a tour stop somewhere in Texas, and Terry ran into a UPC preacher that knew him. The preacher did not know he was no longer in church.

Terry told the preacher that he was in town as part of the racketball pro tour. The preacher asked him to preach for him while he was in town, and wouldn't take "no" for an answer.

Terry didn't have the heart to tell him that he was no longer in church and was a heavy drug user! Finally, Terry laughed and said "Why not?"

Terry showed up and preached one of his canned sermons (while on cocaine!), and 5 people got the holy Ghost!! Terry though it was sooooooo funny!

I wouldn't say that God approved of him because he was effective!!!

BTW, Terry later repented, starting preaching again, and now pastors a UPC church in Kennett, MO.

[MrsMcD]

Why do you think that God seems to approve or disapprove of any of us and based on what?

I remember a guy, married with a kid who came to our church was involved in a homo-affair, and preached very compelling and drawing messages...it seemed he was approved by God.

I am not saying G.P. or anyone else is worthy or unworthy, nor am I implying he is guilty of sin. I am asking how you know he or anyone else has this divine approval?

I don't see how any of us can really know who has divine approval. Some folks are good at being people persons and can put on an act well. They can just as easily get in the pulpit and put on the same act.

[Pressing-On]

This is a true story as told to me by Dennis Denny:

His brother Terry was at the time, a heavy cocaine user. He had been a successful evangelist before he got out of church. He was traveling the racketball pro tour. They had a tour stop somewhere in Texas, and Terry ran into a UPC preacher that knew him. The preacher did not know he was no longer in church.

Terry told the preacher that he was in town as part of the racketball pro tour. The preacher asked him to preach for him while he was in town, and wouldn't take "no" for an answer.

Terry didn't have the heart to tell him that he was no longer in church and was a heavy drug user! Finally, Terry laughed and said "Why not?"

Terry showed up and preached one of his canned sermons, and 5 people got the holy Ghost!! Terry though it was sooooooo funny!

I wouldn't say that God approved of him because he was effective!!!

BTW, Terry later repented, starting preaching again, and now pastors a UPC church in Kennett, MO.

Love that, Pianoman!!!!

I remember really liking Lanny Wolfe's music when I first got in church. I was wondering why the lady at the Bible Book store gave me all of the copies of his music they had. :toofunny :toofunny

[South of I 90]

Sounds like they are "poised for growth"!!!!

(the real question is did they preach that for 1.5 hours because you were there and they though you needed it???????? LOL!!!!)

I didn't know that there was an apostolic seeker sensitive church in that area of East Texas!

[StillStanding]

Love that, Pianoman!!!!

I remember really liking Lanny Wolfe's music when I first got in church. I was wondering why the lady at the Bible Book store gave me all of the copies of his music they had. :toofunny :toofunny

Lanny Wolfe is another great example! :grampa

[South of I 90]

Some online videos of Gordon Poe ...

In Brother Dillan's Church (http://video.mpegnation.com/a001346911964101306134515261.html)

At Parkway Pentecostal Church (http://www.mychurchwebsite.net/site/message.php?messageID=6451&churchID=560)

Gordon Poe at Dillons church.............that must have taking some adjustment for that congregation.

They're not familier with loud screaming preachers. :toofunny

[Pressing-On]

Gordon Poe at Dillons church.............that must have taking some adjustment for that congregation.

They're not familier with loud screaming preachers. :toofunny
He isn't a loud screaming preacher, IMO. I've heard worse. In other words, he doesn't normally scream the whole time. lol!

[RevDWW]

Moved to it's own thread......

[Barb]

This is a true story as told to me by Dennis Denny:

His brother Terry was at the time, a heavy cocaine user. He had been a successful evangelist before he got out of church. He was traveling the racketball pro tour. They had a tour stop somewhere in Texas, and Terry ran into a UPC preacher that knew him. The preacher did not know he was no longer in church.

Terry told the preacher that he was in town as part of the racketball pro tour. The preacher asked him to preach for him while he was in town, and wouldn't take "no" for an answer.

Terry didn't have the heart to tell him that he was no longer in church and was a heavy drug user! Finally, Terry laughed and said "Why not?"

Terry showed up and preached one of his canned sermons (while on cocaine!), and 5 people got the holy Ghost!! Terry though it was sooooooo funny!

I wouldn't say that God approved of him because he was effective!!!

BTW, Terry later repented, starting preaching again, and now pastors a UPC church in Kennett, MO.

Wow, talk about names from the past!! I was just a young'un (maybe 11 or 12 yrs. old) when the Dennys first came to our church to hold revivals.

Dennis played the sax and was great and was just a kid...I still have one or two of their LPs...

[Pastor Keith]

To be honest I have never heard Poe preach only what I have heard. But this I know to be a fact.

He came to CLC and had a question and answer session, and when asked about what he thought about women involved in ministry, his answer was very offensive. (most likely why our friend W. Price likes him)

He stated that he thought women were only good for being pregnant and making peanut brittle.

Very poor in taste and ill willed!

Now Steadfast I am all for diverse and individuality in the Body, but that was the most ignorant and bombastic answer to a really good question. It hovered slightly above bigotry.

You cry for be true to self and honesty, but lets not simply tolerates jack... for the sake that is what a jack.... does. Note this is for example sake, and I am not calling Poe a jack... just emphasing how strongly I feel about stupid, ignorant statements said by the authority of God, no matter how honest it is.

Bump!

[RevDWW]

I should never be about the donkey, it should be about what is carried.........

[Barb]

Originally Posted by keith4him

To be honest I have never heard Poe preach only what I have heard. But this I know to be a fact.

He came to CLC and had a question and answer session, and when asked about what he thought about women involved in ministry, his answer was very offensive. (most likely why our friend W. Price likes him)

He stated that he thought women were only good for being pregnant and making peanut brittle.

Very poor in taste and ill willed!

Now Steadfast I am all for diverse and individuality in the Body, but that was the most ignorant and bombastic answer to a really good question. It hovered slightly above bigotry.

You cry for be true to self and honesty, but lets not simply tolerates jack... for the sake that is what a jack.... does. Note this is for example sake, and I am not calling Poe a jack... just emphasing how strongly I feel about stupid, ignorant statements said by the authority of God, no matter how honest it is.


May the Lord have mercy...

[rgcraig]

Which I'm sure he said for the laugh, but still a put-down and not preaching material to me.

[CC1]

:slaphappy Gordon Poe at Dillons church.............that must have taking some adjustment for that congregation.

They're not familier with loud screaming preachers.

ROFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !:happydance :slaphappy

[LaGirl]

He isn't a loud screaming preacher, IMO. I've heard worse. In other words, he doesn't normally scream the whole time. lol!

he doesnt?

[rgcraig]

he doesnt?

Lol...that's what I thought!

[LaGirl]

Lol...that's what I thought!

shhhh...i am NOT in this conversation.:winkgrin

[CC1]

CC1, I consider you a friend but you're a million miles off base on this one. I stand in 'defense' only because I do believe in him. I'm not one of those who thinks that all preaching has to be 'cut and bang'... but some of it surely is brash. One of my most revered figures in the ministry is C. M. Becton and there isn't a more gentle man alive. I'm a great student of all kinds of preaching and, hence, have NEVER said someone that wasn't being crude was insincere.

Your assumption was misguided as the 'insincere' I was referring to was those who are crude and in your face for no other reason than rile a crowd into a frenzy. What Bro. Poe is he has always been. Yet, I have no time for those who preach one thing and live another. THAT is what I was speaking of being insincere... would you not agree?

No, friend, his is not the only kind of preaching. But, the proof is in the pudding that it's surely one of many effective kinds of preaching. :tiphat

Steadfast, I appreciate your clarification here as I had taken what you had written a different way.

As I mentioned in another post I just don't believe the end justifies the means and that one can preach it "straight" and direct without some of the unneccessary offenses I am hearing told about on this thread.

My problem is not with him being frank with people about their need for God or their current condition (although I think Coonskinners method of using the discernment God gives him makes a lot more sense and is better) but with the crude comments unrelated to someones salvation he makes.

[Pressing-On]

he doesnt?

Lol...that's what I thought!

shhhh...i am NOT in this conversation.:winkgrin

LOL! I don't like preacher's that start off screaming. If they get anointed or excited I don't mind that. Brother Poe doesn't start off in screamo mood.

Usually he talks, gets loud, talks again, gets loud.

You should hear our preacher. He has that cordless mic up so loud it makes your ears bleed and you have to really listen when he gets loud because it sounds muffled his face is so close to the mic. lol!

I still like him. Man he dresses nice! Hahahahahahahaha!

I like Jonathan Suber but he it total screamo and I don't really like that.

[Ferd]

Why do you think that God seems to approve or disapprove of any of us and based on what?

I remember a guy, married with a kid who came to our church was involved in a homo-affair, and preached very compelling and drawing messages...it seemed he was approved by God.

I am not saying G.P. or anyone else is worthy or unworthy, nor am I implying he is guilty of sin. I am asking how you know he or anyone else has this divine approval?
Ahh, got it. dont matter what the dude does cuz a queer preached a nice sermon once.

you really sticking by that?

[Ferd]

This is a true story as told to me by Dennis Denny:

His brother Terry was at the time, a heavy cocaine user. He had been a successful evangelist before he got out of church. He was traveling the racketball pro tour. They had a tour stop somewhere in Texas, and Terry ran into a UPC preacher that knew him. The preacher did not know he was no longer in church.

Terry told the preacher that he was in town as part of the racketball pro tour. The preacher asked him to preach for him while he was in town, and wouldn't take "no" for an answer.

Terry didn't have the heart to tell him that he was no longer in church and was a heavy drug user! Finally, Terry laughed and said "Why not?"

Terry showed up and preached one of his canned sermons (while on cocaine!), and 5 people got the holy Ghost!! Terry though it was sooooooo funny!

I wouldn't say that God approved of him because he was effective!!!

BTW, Terry later repented, starting preaching again, and now pastors a UPC church in Kennett, MO.


verse two. its our approval that matters. got it!

[Ferd]

...because we all know that any one who is looking at any preacher making a decision on ones "approval before God".... we are looking at a single service. ONE SERMON. that way when someone suggest that a Gordon Poe seems to have the approval of God, it can only mean we heard him preach and scream and talk in tongues and stuff.

It cant be about a LIFETIME. God FORBID we look at the results a man might produce over a lifetime of ministry.

Nah, he Gordon Poe stinks because he doesnt exude claaaaasss and such. He isnt elegant so if WE dont approve, well.... dont need to go any further. we dont approve, enough said.

let me ask it this way.

oh never mind, go ahead, you all seem very adept at judging what is and is not approved by God. continue to elucidate us, please.

[CC1]

...because we all know that any one who is looking at any preacher making a decision on ones "approval before God".... we are looking at a single service. ONE SERMON. that way when someone suggest that a Gordon Poe seems to have the approval of God, it can only mean we heard him preach and scream and talk in tongues and stuff.

It cant be about a LIFETIME. God FORBID we look at the results a man might produce over a lifetime of ministry.

Nah, he Gordon Poe stinks because he doesnt exude claaaaasss and such. He isnt elegant so if WE dont approve, well.... dont need to go any further. we dont approve, enough said.

let me ask it this way.

oh never mind, go ahead, you all seem very adept at judging what is and is not approved by God. continue to elucidate us, please.

Thank You! I will continue as time permits.

[StillStanding]

Thank You! I will continue as time permits.

:slaphappy :happydance

[StillStanding]

verse two. its our approval that matters. got it!
The moral of the story is that God can use idiots when he desires! :D

[CC1]

:slaphappy :happydance

You need to call me. I keep forgetting to tell you something. I looked for you at church Sunday but I didn't see you.

[rgcraig]

The moral of the story is that God can use idiots when he desires! :D

He used a donkey.

[rgcraig]

You need to call me. I keep forgetting to tell you something. I looked for you at church Sunday but I didn't see you.

Oh come on....just start a thread!

[StillStanding]

You need to call me. I keep forgetting to tell you something. I looked for you at church Sunday but I didn't see you.
I was there! :) I'll call you tommorrow! (There's an all-seeing eye watching me!)

[rgcraig]

I was there! :) I'll call you tommorrow! (There's an all-seeing eye watching me!)

And you are HERE?????????????

[Ferd]

The moral of the story is that God can use idiots when he desires! :D

yes but to suggest that my concept of "approved by God" is as shallow as single sermon really irritates me.

[StillStanding]

And you are HERE?????????????

She allows me to get on the internet while she's catching up on her TiVOed "All My Children" episode! :) I'm telling ya...that stuff will send you to hell!!!! :D

[CC1]

yes but to suggest that my concept of "approved by God" is as shallow as single sermon really irritates me.


Just take some more medicene and you won't even notice it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(BTW - How is the back?)

[rgcraig]

She allows me to get on the internet while she's catching up on her TiVOed "All My Children" episode! :) I'm telling ya...that stuff will send you to hell!!!! :D

Lol......oh well, whatever works for you.

[StillStanding]

yes but to suggest that my concept of "approved by God" is as shallow as single sermon really irritates me.

I understand what you're saying. I just think that God can use people in spite of their foolishness, even long term.

[rrford]

Quite the thread...

[rrford]

I understand what you're saying. I just think that God can use people in spite of their foolishness, even long term.

Being used by God does not equate to being right with God. Happens a good bit of the time, IMO.

[rrford]

She allows me to get on the internet while she's catching up on her TiVOed "All My Children" episode! :) I'm telling ya...that stuff will send you to hell!!!! :D

Sounds like you need some good preaching on "Wife Submission." :slaphappy

[StillStanding]

Wow, talk about names from the past!! I was just a young'un (maybe 11 or 12 yrs. old) when the Dennys first came to our church to hold revivals.

Dennis played the sax and was great and was just a kid...I still have one or two of their LPs...

I haven't talked with any of the Denny's in about twenty years. I don't know what Dennis is doing these days! :) Dennis told me that his sister was heavily involved in Texas politics.

[CC1]

Sounds like you need some good preaching on "Wife Submission." :slaphappy

Does G. Poe do house calls? Him matched up against Mrs. Pianoman is a match I would pay to see!!!!

I think he would have met his match. I have a feeling he would not be feeling much after his first degrading remark about women (LOL)

[StillStanding]

Sounds like you need some good preaching on "Wife Submission." :slaphappy

One of these days...one of these days! :D

[CC1]

Quite the thread...

That's what the seamstress said.

[rrford]

Does G. Poe do house calls? Him matched up against Mrs. Pianoman is a match I would pay to see!!!!

I think he would have met his match. I have a feeling he would not be feeling much after his first degrading remark about women (LOL)


And one wonders if he would then be the only screamer in the house. :slaphappy

[CC1]

One of these days...one of these days! :D

For those reading this and wondering, this is what Pianoman mutters into the shower curtain when he is in the bathroom where his wife can't hear him!

[rrford]

That's what the seamstress said.

Ah, a little humor...






















Very little. :toofunny

[rrford]

For those reading this and wondering, this is what Pianoman mutters into the shower curtain when he is in the bathroom where is wife can't hear him!

He has a waterproof laptop??? :slaphappy

[CC1]

And one wonders if he would then be the only screamer in the house. :slaphappy


ROFL!!!!! I don't think Mrs. Pianoman takes anything off anybody. She spent some time as a single mom and breadwinner and that tenacity shows.

[Ferd]

Just take some more medicene and you won't even notice it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(BTW - How is the back?)

the back is doing better. thanks for asking. now if we can get your friends to be reasonable.

[rrford]

ROFL!!!!! I don't think Mrs. Pianoman takes anything off anybody. She spent some time as a single mom and breadwinner and that tenacity shows.

Oh, we can tell. Any woman that can tell her man when and when not to get on the internet is quite the woman. Must have some Russion stock in her...:tiphat

[CC1]

Ah, a little humor...



Very little. :toofunny


Hey, you takes what you can get! With Wholehearted and Rkentsmith around just be glad you are getting any humor.:toofunny

[Felicity]

I understand what you're saying. I just think that God can use people in spite of their foolishness, even long term.Of course He does. Otherwise there'd be nobody being used by God.

[rrford]

Of course He does. Otherwise there'd be nobody being used by God.


Except me. :tiphat

[Ferd]

I understand what you're saying. I just think that God can use people in spite of their foolishness, even long term.

I think God uses fools some too. I also think he "approves of some of those silly people we get hangups over.


Peter wasnt exactly a polite and polished fellow you know.

[StillStanding]

ROFL!!!!! I don't think Mrs. Pianoman takes anything off anybody. She spent some time as a single mom and breadwinner and that tenacity shows.

I called for her at work the other day, and the employee that answer said everyone in the office was giving Mrs. Pianoman a high five. Seems like a certain new arrogant factory salesman was really irritating her emplyees and had his come to Jesus meeting with Mrs. Pianoman! :slaphappy

[Felicity]

Except me. :tiphatHa! There are no exceptions to this rule. Sorry. :)

[Ferd]

The moral of the story is that God can use idiots when he desires! :D

maybe we are the idiots?

[Felicity]

I think God uses fools some too. I also think he "approves of some of those silly people we get hangups over.


Peter wasnt exactly a polite and polished fellow you know.There's a difference between being a fool and being foolish by times. Not everybody is a fool but most everybody does a few foolish things over a lifetime of living for God or however long a person serves Him.

[StillStanding]

maybe we are the idiots?
probably! :D

[Ferd]

There's a difference between being a fool and being foolish by times. Not everybody is a fool but most everybody does a few foolish things over a lifetime of living for God or however long a person serves Him.

right! are we saying Poe is a fool or just does things some folk dont cater to?

Like Peter did...kept Paul on his toes so ive heard.

[Ferd]

or like Paul who couldnt keep company with one of the kindest souls in the NT (Barnabas)

[Carpenter]

...because we all know that any one who is looking at any preacher making a decision on ones "approval before God".... we are looking at a single service. ONE SERMON. that way when someone suggest that a Gordon Poe seems to have the approval of God, it can only mean we heard him preach and scream and talk in tongues and stuff.

It cant be about a LIFETIME. God FORBID we look at the results a man might produce over a lifetime of ministry.

Nah, he Gordon Poe stinks because he doesnt exude claaaaasss and such. He isnt elegant so if WE dont approve, well.... dont need to go any further. we dont approve, enough said.

let me ask it this way.

oh never mind, go ahead, you all seem very adept at judging what is and is not approved by God. continue to elucidate us, please.


:slaphappy

Hey druggie, you are the one who said he or she or this or that was approved by God! I only begged you to tell me how you knew!

[Ferd]

probably! :D

I will go to bed tonight smiling knowing that you will nut up soon and Mrs Pianoman will get you fixed....:largehalo

[rrford]

:slaphappy

Hey druggie, you are the one who said he or she or this or that was approved by God! I only begged you to tell me how you knew!

The line for "Idiots Wishing To Be Used By God" forms to the end of the Forum. It may take a while, but you will get your turn. (I got mine.:slaphappy )

[StillStanding]

I will go to bed tonight smiling knowing that you will nut up soon and Mrs Pianoman will get you fixed....:largehalo
True! :D

[Ferd]

:slaphappy

Hey druggie, you are the one who said he or she or this or that was approved by God! I only begged you to tell me how you knew!

Carp, I think you get my point. you compare a man with a lifetime of history to a queer who said some nice words.

I might say what you said if I were dealing with some yolkle who doesnt know the difference between screaming and preaching.... or better yet, between one trip to the pulpit and a lifetime of ministry.

i think even you get that.

[Ferd]

The line for "Idiots Wishing To Be Used By God" forms to the end of the Forum. It may take a while, but you will get your turn. (I got mine.:slaphappy )

just remember your place bud. you aint allowed a turn in other places...

[Praxeas]

this thread is false advertisement....TOF webcast is NOT on now...

[Ferd]

this thread is false advertisement....TOF webcast is NOT on now...

Dude, there is more false about this tHread than that!

[Carpenter]

Carp, I think you get my point. you compare a man with a lifetime of history to a queer who said some nice words.

I might say what you said if I were dealing with some yolkle who doesnt know the difference between screaming and preaching.... or better yet, between one trip to the pulpit and a lifetime of ministry.

i think even you get that.

Well sure I do, but you didn't really say that in your post, you just kind of tossed it out there.

I still ask the same question, what is it about a person that you can make a snap judgement that they are approved by God?

I have another question too. I heard a preacher one time hammer home on preachers and other folks who constantly glorify their criminal past, how bad they were, etc... It seems some POEPLE can't finish a sermon without taking 15 minutes to make sure folks understand that fact, "I bean shot x number of times, scars all over me body, I did drugs they dint even have names for, I was one baaaaaaaaaad dude!" GLORY!

[Praxeas]

Dude, there is more false about this tHread than that!
Well I consider you a friend so I did not want to go there :happydance

[Carpenter]

The line for "Idiots Wishing To Be Used By God" forms to the end of the Forum. It may take a while, but you will get your turn. (I got mine.:slaphappy )

...doesn't the Book say something about using the foolish to confound the wise?

[CC1]

Carp, I think you get my point. you compare a man with a lifetime of history to a queer who said some nice words.

I might say what you said if I were dealing with some yolkle who doesnt know the difference between screaming and preaching.... or better yet, between one trip to the pulpit and a lifetime of ministry.

i think even you get that.


Ferd,

You are not describing the situation accurately. The preacher who Carp spoke about was not preaching his first sermon and five people got the Holy Ghost.

I believe the point is that if results are your baromoter then you will be endorsing the ministries of a very diverse group of people among which are going to be some I am sure you would not approve of.

Back to the old question of does the results justify the means.

[Ferd]

Well sure I do, but you didn't really say that in your post, you just kind of tossed it out there.

I still ask the same question, what is it about a person that you can make a snap judgement that they are approved by God?

I have another question too. I heard a preacher one time hammer home on preachers and other folks who constantly glorify their criminal past, how bad they were, etc... It seems some POEPLE can't finish a sermon without taking 15 minutes to make sure folks understand that fact, "I bean shot x number of times, scars all over me body, I did drugs they dint even have names for, I was one baaaaaaaaaad dude!" GLORY!

My dad was the Lay speaker at Mens conference one year. several people told him he was the first person to speak that didnt tell how bad they were before they got saved...

the thing that made me laugh about that was that my dad really was a bad hombre back in the day...even got shot....still carries the bullet...

He never told those stories in church. most of them i heard from his old running buddies. the really tuff guys rarely tell.

and how do you look at a guy? its called the body of work. what is the fruit over a lifetime of ministry? Poe aint exactly a spring chicken. he has left some evidence behind hasnt he?

[rrford]

...doesn't the Book say something about using the foolish to confound the wise?

Man, if that is the case some of us ought to be slap worn out from being used so much. :happydance

[Pressing-On]

O.K. I'll add another comment he made since ya'll are having so much fun.

One time he said, "I'm glad that I didn't marry a woman that looked like she needed to hang a feed bag around her neck."

:toofunny :toofunny

I sorry, I am laughing. You know you men have made comments on the Blue Denim Whale thread so don't even try to say Brother Poe is the only man that makes comments about women. lol

I was trying to relay this to a friend of mine in Alaska and I couldn't quit laughing. He kept telling me to repeat what I said. LOL!

[Ferd]

Ferd,

You are not describing the situation accurately. The preacher who Carp spoke about was not preaching his first sermon and five people got the Holy Ghost.

I believe the point is that if results are your baromoter then you will be endorsing the ministries of a very diverse group of people among which are going to be some I am sure you would not approve of.

Back to the old question of does the results justify the means.

Frist lets start with knowing the difference between ministry and preaching. then lets take a moment to consider the body of work....

I would submit to you that Mark wasnt really fond of Paul in those early days.

I would also suggest that some in the early church considered Peter wishy washy.

considering the body of work, I think we can agree they were both approved of by God.

Does a dope head who can preach qualify? Do we compare a guy with a lifetime commitment to Christ, over a lifetime, to a coke snorting fool who knows his way around a pulpit? please.

[Ferd]

Well I consider you a friend so I did not want to go there :happydance

ha!

[Ferd]

...doesn't the Book say something about using the foolish to confound the wise?

which is why I am working so hard and you have a giant question mark over your head!

[RevDWW]

Man, if that is the case some of us ought to be slap worn out from being used so much. :happydance
That there is almost sinfully funny...it's riotous......:slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy

[CC1]

My dad was the Lay speaker at Mens conference one year. several people told him he was the first person to speak that didnt tell how bad they were before they got saved...

the thing that made me laugh about that was that my dad really was a bad hombre back in the day...even got shot....still carries the bullet...

He never told those stories in church. most of them i heard from his old running buddies. the really tuff guys rarely tell.

and how do you look at a guy? its called the body of work. what is the fruit over a lifetime of ministry? Poe aint exactly a spring chicken. he has left some evidence behind hasnt he?

Ferdinand,

I came along rather late in life for my dad. He was 39 years old (two months away from 40) and my mom was 29.

By the time I was born my dad was an elder in our church. In fact he was the oldest man in our church at age 50. Most of the church was military families.

I only heard my father say a curse word probably three times in my life and even then it was words that many christians use today on a daily basis.

He was a praying man and bible reading man who did not miss a night of us as a family praying and reading the word. His reputation in our town was spotless. He was known as being honest and hardworking, etc,etc.

I lost this great man from my life in an accident when I was just 13 years old and he was 52.

Imagine my surprise when after his death I found out that in his younger days before he got in church he was pretty wild.

He was 6'2" and 230 lbs when he died. He was a country boy from Louisiana who served on a destroyer for three years in WWII.

In talking with my mom I found out that my dad used to wear expensive stetson hats before I was born. (I only saw him in baseball style work caps). I was fascinated and asked her why he stopped wearing them. She grinned and said that he used to get drunk and forget and leave them in bars. They were very expensive hats so finally after losing yet another one he decided his stetson days were over.

I also found out that he was quite the fighter and would put bullies in their place. He ran one wife beater out of town.

This was all amazing for me to hear since I could not imagine my dad raising a fist to anyone except to protect his family. I certainly could not picture him drinking and smoking!!

My dad was a true testimony as to what God can do in someones life. He lived being a Christian. He didn't just talk the talk but he walked the walk.

I remember one time a friend of my dad who had a successful business was getting married and going on a round the world trip. He called my dad over and showed him a suitcase filled with I think $25,000 in it. This was back around 1970 so that would be like more than $100,000 today.

He asked my dad to keep it for him until he got back from his trip. My dad said "you must be kidding! I could spend this and claim you never gave it to me!". His friend said he knew my dad and that he would not do that. My dad then said "well what if something happened to you on your trip and you didn't come back?, I could spend it and no one would know!". His friiend said "if something happens to me I want you to have this money!".

There is another story about a trip my father and I made to the North Slope of Alaska back when the first convoys were going up to set up exploratory camps. We missed our convoy and started off on our own behind them. When we finally got buried by a blizzard for three days before the airplanes found us everyone was amazed we made it that far. We were only a few miles behind the convoy that had only gottne as far as they had by pulling each other a lot when they got stuck. I over heard people in a restaurant talking about how it had to have been prayer and God that had gotten us that far!

[RevDWW]

Ferdinand,

I came along rather late in life for my dad. He was 39 years old (two months away from 40) and my mom was 29.

By the time I was born my dad was an elder in our church. In fact he was the oldest man in our church at age 50. Most of the church was military families.

I only heard my father say a curse word probably three times in my life and even then it was words that many christians use today on a daily basis.

He was a praying man and bible reading man who did not miss a night of us as a family praying and reading the word. His reputation in our town was spotless. He was known as being honest and hardworking, etc,etc.

I lost this great man from my life in an accident when I was just 13 years old and he was 52.

Imagine my surprise when after his death I found out that in his younger days before he got in church he was pretty wild.

He was 6'2" and 230 lbs when he died. He was a country boy from Louisiana who served on a destroyer for three years in WWII.

In talking with my mom I found out that my dad used to wear expensive stetson hats before I was born. (I only saw him in baseball style work caps). I was fascinated and asked her why he stopped wearing them. She grinned and said that he used to get drunk and forget and leave them in bars. They were very expensive hats so finally after losing yet another one he decided his stetson days were over.

I also found out that he was quite the fighter and would put bullies in their place. He ran one wife beater out of town.

This was all amazing for me to hear since I could not imagine my dad raising a fist to anyone except to protect his family. I certainly could not picture him drinking and smoking!!

My dad was a true testimony as to what God can do in someones life. He lived being a Christian. He didn't just talk the talk but he walked the walk.

I remember one time a friend of my dad who had a successful business was getting married and going on a round the world trip. He called my dad over and showed him a suitcase filled with I think $25,000 in it. This was back around 1970 so that would be like more than $100,000 today.

He asked my dad to keep it for him until he got back from his trip. My dad said "you must be kidding! I could spend this and claim you never gave it to me!". His friend said he knew my dad and that he would not do that. My dad then said "well what if something happened to you on your trip and you didn't come back?, I could spend it and no one would know!". His friiend said "if something happens to me I want you to have this money!".

There is another story about a trip my father and I made to the North Slope of Alaska back when the first convoys were going up to set up exploratory camps. We missed our convoy and started off on our own behind them. When we finally got buried by a blizzard for three days before the airplanes found us everyone was amazed we made it that far. We were only a few miles behind the convoy that had only gottne as far as they had by pulling each other a lot when they got stuck. I over heard people in a restaurant talking about how it had to have been prayer and God that had gotten us that far!
Great story!

[Felicity]

right! are we saying Poe is a fool or just does things some folk dont cater to?

Like Peter did...kept Paul on his toes so ive heard. LOL. I'm not saying he's a fool. l I don't know much about Gordon Poe. Never met him. Only know what I've heard online here but I found the guy who was preaching the other night (I tuned in for a bit) ..... if that was Gordon Poe ..... really hard to listen to and so turned him off after a few min.

Not that I don't like passionate preaching 'cause I do but that was hard on the head.

[South of I 90]

Wasn't Gordon Poe on the faculty staff at JCM?

[Pressing-On]

Wasn't Gordon Poe on the faculty staff at JCM?
Are you thinking of Keith Clark?

[Pressing-On]

O.K. I'll add another comment he made since ya'll are having so much fun.

One time he said, "I'm glad that I didn't marry a woman that looked like she needed to hang a feed bag around her neck."

:toofunny :toofunny

I sorry, I am laughing. You know you men have made comments on the Blue Denim Whale thread so don't even try to say Brother Poe is the only man that makes comments about women. lol

I was trying to relay this to a friend of mine in Alaska and I couldn't quit laughing. He kept telling me to repeat what I said. LOL!
None of you lovely men want to own up to making comments about women on FCF, NFCF cause I know you have. lol!

[LaGirl]

Are you thinking of Keith Clark?

where is he at now?

[South of I 90]

Are you thinking of Keith Clark?

No, but was GP there during the KC Reign of JCM?

[Pressing-On]

No, but was GP there during the KC Reign of JCM?
I'm not aware of that. I don't think so.

[Pressing-On]

where is he at now?
We were talking about him the other day and I don't remember. Used to be my BIL's pastor in Austin.

[rrford]

We were talking about him the other day and I don't remember. Used to be my BIL's pastor in Austin.



KC is pastoring in Dayton, TX. Gordon Poe was never on staff at JCM to the best of my recollection. Gordon Mallory was. Twice.

[LaGirl]

We were talking about him the other day and I don't remember. Used to be my BIL's pastor in Austin.

I always liked him. He preached here at least 15+ years ago.

[Pressing-On]

I always liked him. He preached here at least 15+ years ago.

No comment. LOL!

[Digging4Truth]

see what you started!!! :neener

GIRL.... I was thinking the same thing.

When I posted this is was because I knew TOR was going on (My wife was helping with preparing the food for after the services) and I went to the website and saw that the webcast was available. I didn't know who was speaking or anything.

I figured a few people would get to enjoy the service..... end of story.


NOT SO......... :)

I had never heard GP speak before all of this got started.

This thing has taken on a life of it's own. :)

[Brother Price]

D4T, thanks fopr the link. I loved it. Some did not. But I did! Sure blessed me.