Politics - Delegate Votes

[MissBrattified]

Okay, CBSNews reports that Obama has 1,877 delegates and Clinton has 1,706 delegates--if that is the case, then why isn't this being called a close race? I keep hearing that Clinton has no chance, but if she gets the majority of delegate votes--doesn't that make her the Democratic candidate?

*confused*

[JaneEyre]

There is very little hope she will have the most delegates but she had a huge victory today in West Virginia!!...If only Michigan and Florida had obeyed the rules, she might be ahead or at least closer to the lead than she is now.

The mainstream media is so biased to BO. It is sickening. I am tired of the lovefest. Fox News is the only network giving Hillary fair and balanced coverage.

Just another example of the Good Ole Boy Network even in the media but it is beyond that.

I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh very often but he hit the nail on the head one day last week. He gave an exposition that had to do with how a woman can pay all the dues, have the knowledge and endure through the years. Then the young guy appears up on the scene and gets the promotion while the woman is sent to do the jobs no one else wants.

[Sam]

Okay, CBSNews reports that Obama has 1,877 delegates and Clinton has 1,706 delegates--if that is the case, then why isn't this being called a close race? I keep hearing that Clinton has no chance, but if she gets the majority of delegate votes--doesn't that make her the Democratic candidate?

*confused*

In my opinion it is media bias.

Funny how that is going. The Clintons were the darlings of Hollywood and the media and now it seems Barack Hussein Obama has stolen that love.

[Mrs. LPW]

My head spins trying to understand the US electoral system. :)

[Esther]

There is very little hope she will have the most delegates but she had a huge victory today in West Virginia!!...If only Michigan and Florida had obeyed the rules, she might be ahead or at least closer to the lead than she is now.

The mainstream media is so biased to BO. It is sickening. I am tired of the lovefest. Fox News is the only network giving Hillary fair and balanced coverage.

Just another example of the Good Ole Boy Network even in the media but it is beyond that.

I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh very often but he hit the nail on the head one day last week. He gave an exposition that had to do with how a woman can pay all the dues, have the knowledge and endure through the years. Then the young guy appears up on the scene and gets the promotion while the woman is sent to do the jobs no one else wants.

It is odd that you never heard the Democratic party saying the votes won't count BEFORE they voted early. Why not?

Although, I'm NOT a Democrat, still I think that says something. ;)

[Ferd]

Okay, CBSNews reports that Obama has 1,877 delegates and Clinton has 1,706 delegates--if that is the case, then why isn't this being called a close race? I keep hearing that Clinton has no chance, but if she gets the majority of delegate votes--doesn't that make her the Democratic candidate?

*confused*

Bratt, the way the dems count delegates, it is virtually impossible for Hillary to win.

First they have 2 kinds of delegates.
Pledged delegates that are awarded based on state by state vote
And second Super Delegates. These are free agents if you will who can vote for whom ever they choose.

Barak has a hundred point lead in pledged delegates but you don’t win all the pledge delegates from a state that you win. These delegates are allotted proportionately. So if Hillary wins 52% of the vote she will only get a slight majority of the pledged delegates. If a state has 20 delegates, she would get 12 to Baraks 8 so she could only make up 4 on his 100 point lead.

There are only 6 states left including WV that voted yesterday. The total number of available pledged delegates left are just over 100 so she would have to basically get 100% of all the Dem votes to take the lead.


Now we come to the super delegates. Barak has about a 3 or 4 point lead in SDs at this point with a couple hundred left undecided. Most of these come from states that went to Barak.

Now if Hillary can convince these remaining delegates that she is the candidate, then maybe they go for her.

But.... Barak has won more pledged delegates and Barak has won more of the popular vote (excluding Florida and Michigan). Barak wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan and he didn’t campaign in Florida.

The super delegates also know that Baraks support comes from a huge number of first time voters. If the SDs give the nod to Hillary, these people will stay home in the General and likely won’t ever vote for a dem again.

Hillary’s support comes from life long democrats that will likely stick with the party.....

It is virtually impossible for Hillary to pull this out.... but there is still a little time for something to happen. We shall see...

[Mrs. LPW]

... spinning...

[Monkeyman]

Bratt, the way the dems count delegates, it is virtually impossible for Hillary to win.

First they have 2 kinds of delegates.
Pledged delegates that are awarded based on state by state vote
And second Super Delegates. These are free agents if you will who can vote for whom ever they choose.

Barak has a hundred point lead in pledged delegates but you don’t win all the pledge delegates from a state that you win. These delegates are allotted proportionately. So if Hillary wins 52% of the vote she will only get a slight majority of the pledged delegates. If a state has 20 delegates, she would get 12 to Baraks 8 so she could only make up 4 on his 100 point lead.

There are only 6 states left including WV that voted yesterday. The total number of available pledged delegates left are just over 100 so she would have to basically get 100% of all the Dem votes to take the lead.


Now we come to the super delegates. Barak has about a 3 or 4 point lead in SDs at this point with a couple hundred left undecided. Most of these come from states that went to Barak.

Now if Hillary can convince these remaining delegates that she is the candidate, then maybe they go for her.

But.... Barak has won more pledged delegates and Barak has won more of the popular vote (excluding Florida and Michigan). Barak wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan and he didn’t campaign in Florida.

The super delegates also know that Baraks support comes from a huge number of first time voters. If the SDs give the nod to Hillary, these people will stay home in the General and likely won’t ever vote for a dem again.

Hillary’s support comes from life long democrats that will likely stick with the party.....

It is virtually impossible for Hillary to pull this out.... but there is still a little time for something to happen. We shall see...Ferd your so smart, here I thought super-delegates were delegates bitten by a radio-active, poisonous Nancy Pelosi!!!:toofunny

[Baron1710]

Bratt, the way the dems count delegates, it is virtually impossible for Hillary to win.

First they have 2 kinds of delegates.
Pledged delegates that are awarded based on state by state vote
And second Super Delegates. These are free agents if you will who can vote for whom ever they choose.

Barak has a hundred point lead in pledged delegates but you don’t win all the pledge delegates from a state that you win. These delegates are allotted proportionately. So if Hillary wins 52% of the vote she will only get a slight majority of the pledged delegates. If a state has 20 delegates, she would get 12 to Baraks 8 so she could only make up 4 on his 100 point lead.

There are only 6 states left including WV that voted yesterday. The total number of available pledged delegates left are just over 100 so she would have to basically get 100% of all the Dem votes to take the lead.


Now we come to the super delegates. Barak has about a 3 or 4 point lead in SDs at this point with a couple hundred left undecided. Most of these come from states that went to Barak.

Now if Hillary can convince these remaining delegates that she is the candidate, then maybe they go for her.

But.... Barak has won more pledged delegates and Barak has won more of the popular vote (excluding Florida and Michigan). Barak wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan and he didn’t campaign in Florida.

The super delegates also know that Baraks support comes from a huge number of first time voters. If the SDs give the nod to Hillary, these people will stay home in the General and likely won’t ever vote for a dem again.

Hillary’s support comes from life long democrats that will likely stick with the party.....

It is virtually impossible for Hillary to pull this out.... but there is still a little time for something to happen. We shall see...

You looking for a job as a Fox News contributor?

[tstew]

There is very little hope she will have the most delegates but she had a huge victory today in West Virginia!!...If only Michigan and Florida had obeyed the rules, she might be ahead or at least closer to the lead than she is now.

The mainstream media is so biased to BO. It is sickening. I am tired of the lovefest. Fox News is the only network giving Hillary fair and balanced coverage.
Just another example of the Good Ole Boy Network even in the media but it is beyond that.

I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh very often but he hit the nail on the head one day last week. He gave an exposition that had to do with how a woman can pay all the dues, have the knowledge and endure through the years. Then the young guy appears up on the scene and gets the promotion while the woman is sent to do the jobs no one else wants.

I'm not a big fan of any of the candidates, but I don't believe any news network is fair and balanced in its coverage. You can usually tell within seconds what the idealogical leanings of a network or particular show is. The supporters of the different candidates will usually point to the outlets with views like theirs as "fair and balanced".

[DividedThigh]

Ferd your so smart, here I thought super-delegates were delegates bitten by a radio-active, poisonous Nancy Pelosi!!!:toofunny

you are funny rico, although i wonder some times if there is some truth to what you say about pelosi biting, people, lol, good analysis ferd, well spoken and truly said, go boy, dt:blah

[Ferd]

Ferd your so smart, here I thought super-delegates were delegates bitten by a radio-active, poisonous Nancy Pelosi!!!:toofunny

I think that is also true!

[DividedThigh]

too funny, i wish the explanation for there lunacy was that simple, a stake in the heart of the vampress would solve it, lol,dt

[Antipas]

Okay, CBSNews reports that Obama has 1,877 delegates and Clinton has 1,706 delegates--if that is the case, then why isn't this being called a close race? I keep hearing that Clinton has no chance, but if she gets the majority of delegate votes--doesn't that make her the Democratic candidate?

*confused*

Currently all Obama needs is 3 out of 10 undeclared delegate votes. If Hillary can swing some major persuading she might pull it off. But remember, some of those delegates are from areas that voted to support Obama. If they don't vote in line with those whom they represent they may face re-election issues later. So the odds are significantly in Obama's favor.

[DividedThigh]

antipas is right, all true, but never put anything past the clintons, lol,dt:crazywalls