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stmatthew
05-28-2008, 09:14 AM
Read this elsewhere, and wanted to share it here. :D
The Difference
John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barak Obama were walking down a Washington DC street when they came upon a homeless man.
John McCain gave the man his business card and told him to come to his office for a job. He then took 20 dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the man.
Hillary was very impressed, so when they came upon another homeless person, she decided to help.
She walked over to him and gave him directions to the welfare office. She then reached into John McCain's pocket and took out $20. She kept $15 for her administrative fees and gave the homeless man $5.
When they came upon yet another homeless person, Barak told him to "have hope...change is coming..." and gave him nothing.
Now do you understand the difference?
The Rest of the Story
The man comes to his office where security detains the left wing wacko who is arrested for illegal soliciting and harassment.
Headline reads: McCain mugged by homeless man. Suspect Detained.
McKain holds a press conference to play "victim" and calls for a town hall meeting about tougher law enforcement and the homeless "problem".
What else should we expect from a flip-flopper/waffler non-principled politico.
Some of McWaffles' Flip Flops:
Jerry Falwell
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) used to dismiss Jerry Falwell as an "agent of intolerance," but later gave the commencement speech at his university.
Free Speech
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain), until recently, was pushing for a reform law that would require conservative groups to reveal their financial donors. But, after fielding protests from evangelical Christians and antiabortion activists, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) decided last month to strip out the provision.
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) in 2000 assailed Bush's proposed tax cuts as a sop to the rich, and a year later, with Bush in office, he voted against those cuts, declaring that "the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle-class Americans." But a year ago, he switched sides and voted to extend tax cuts for the wealthy.
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) in 1999 said that, "even in the long term," he would not support the repeal of Roe v. Wade because "thousands of young American women would be performing illegal and dangerous operations." But last November he said that he now favored repeal because "I don't believe the Supreme Court should be legislating in the way that they did on Roe v. Wade."
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) in 2000 was incensed when a pair of Texas businessmen, Sam and Charley Wyly, bankrolled some Bush-friendly TV ads that distorted McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)'s record. McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) declared at the time that their "dirty money" did not belong in national politics. But last year, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) decided that their dirty money belonged in his campaign; he took $20,000 and allowed them to chair a McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) fund-raiser. (McCain later had to give back the money, because, it turns out, his new friends are reportedly under federal investigation.)
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain), who has long deplored negative politics, defended John Kerry in 2004 when the Democratic candidate's war record was being impugned by the Swift Boaters. But today, one of McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)'s top advisers is GOP hardball specialist Terry Nelson, who has worked as a consultant with one of the principal Swift Boaters. Nelson also produced the notorious '06 TV ad that implied, in the Tennessee Senate race, that the black Democratic candidate cavorted with white women.
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) has voted against a federal constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, but last fall, regarding his own state, he supported an Arizona referendum that would have banned gay marriage.
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) in 2006 suggested that creationism was not a fit topic for the schoolroom: "I respect those who think the world was created in seven days. Should it be taught as a science class? Probably not." But he suggested the opposite in 2005 ("all points of view should be presented"), and Friday he is scheduled to be the keynote speaker at a confab sponsored by the Discovery Institute, a prominent creationism advocacy group.
The Associated Press broke a story about McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)’s statement in Sept 2007 saying that he is in fact a Baptist, despite his past comments that he is an Episcopalian. The news hook is that McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) made these comments while he was in South Carolina, which happens to have a lot of Baptist voters. In a June 2007 interview with McClatchy (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McClatchy) Newspapers, the senator said his wife and two of their children have been baptized in North Phoenix Baptist Church (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/North+Phoenix+Baptist+Church), but he had not. “I didn’t find it necessary to do so for my spiritual needs,” he said. He told McClatchy (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McClatchy) he found the Baptist church more fulfilling than the Episcopalian church, but still referred to himself as an Episcopalian.
Does this matter? On the campaign trail it seems to matter to the self-described straight-talker:
The Associated Press asked McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) on Saturday how his Episcopal faith plays a role in his campaign and life. McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) grew up Episcopalian and attended an Episcopal high school in Alexandria, Va.
“It plays a role in my life. By the way, I’m not Episcopalian. I’m Baptist,” McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) said. “Do I advertise my faith? Do I talk about it all the time? No.”
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) does discuss faith on the campaign trail. He regularly tells crowds about a North Vietnamese POW guard who would loosen his bindings while he was a prisoner. One Christmas, the man surreptitiously signaled his Christian faith, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) says, by making the sign of a cross with his toe in the dirt.
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) said Sunday he doesn’t know how his Baptist faith might affect his showing in South Carolina.
The bigger story here is that McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) is actually talking about his religion. McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) is known for criticizing others for talking about their faith. But back to the particulars of McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)’s statements. There is a simple way of proving one is a Baptist: Has McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) undergone a full-immersion baptism?
As the AP noted, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) had not been baptized into the Baptist church as of June. The first question a reporter should ask a person claiming to be Baptist is whether they have been baptized into the church. Anyone know the answer to this? Unfortunately, the AP found the politics of McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)’s statement more interesting than what most Baptists in South Carolina are probably wondering.
Abortion:
In NH in 1999 McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) told reporters that "in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade." He explained that overturning Roe would force "women in America to undergo (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/undergo) illegal and dangerous operations."
In 2006, campaigning for the GOP nomination as a conservative, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) said the opposite.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask one question about abortion. Then I want to turn to Iraq. You're for a constitutional amendment banning abortion, with some exceptions for life and rape and incest.
MCCAIN: Rape, incest and the life of the mother. Yes.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So is President Bush, yet that hasn't advanced in the six years he's been in office. What are you going to do to advance a constitutional amendment that President Bush hasn't done?
MCCAIN: I don't think a constitutional amendment is probably going to take place, but I do believe that it's very likely or possible that the Supreme Court should — could overturn Roe v. Wade, which would then return these decisions to the states, which I support…. Just as I believe that the issue of gay marriage should be decided by the states, so do I believe that we would be better off by having Roe v. Wade return to the states.
Bush Tax Cuts:
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) used to oppose Bush's tax cuts, but supported them in Feb 2006 in the leadup to the GOP race (opportunism!)
Personality conflicts:
Evangelical Leadership:
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as "agents of intolerance" in 2002, but has since "reconciled" and has cozied up quite a bit.
Charles Wyly:
Called Sam and Charles Wyly "currupt", stating that they spent "dirty money" to help finance Bush's presidential campaign. He even filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) reached out to the Wylys for support.
Grover Norquist:
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)'s old rhetoric was that Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. When McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) got serious about running for POTUS in 2006 he started a reconcile with Norquist.
(common theme with those personality conflicts . . . "I'll crucify you publicly if it will help me get in front of a TV camera or further my current cause, but I still want your help in becoming POTUS!")
Bob Jones University:
He was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
Torture:
Takes a firm line against torture, but ended up caving to Bush's interpretations.
Kyoto Accord:
Outspoken critic of plan . . . before he decided to support it.
Gay Marriage:
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) Told Iowa State Students: "I think Gay Marriage should be allowed . . . I don't have any problem with that" . . . after his aide got ahold of him during the commercial break he said "I do not believe that Gay Marriages should be legal"
Ethanol:
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) was anti-ethanol when he was skipping Iowa in 1999. In 2006 he was pro-ethanol while campaigning in Iowa . Now he's pretty anti-ethanol again that he's decided to bypass Iowa. (THIS ONE IS A TRUE FLIP FLOP . . . Been on both sides of the issue multiple times)
<H2 tocme>Confederate flag:
Was both for and against state promotion of the flag in SC during the 1999 race. Said it was "a symbol of racism and slavery" . . . 3 days later he recanted (AKA "pandered") saying "Personally, I see the flag as a symbol of heritage."
****Law of Sea Convention:
Long-time vocal supporter of the Law, now (just this last month) he's against it.
Immigration Reform:
He now opposes the DREAM Act to legalize illegal alien students (though that was previously for it).
Also, he's violently backed off his McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)-Kennedy Immigration bill and is supporting the "Secure the Border First" bill.
Used to support Social Security Benefits for Illegal Immigrants . Now he doesn't.
Ethics Reform / Transparency of 527 donations:
Was hard core for such transparency, before he voted against it in 2006 (cozying up to grassroots activist PACs).
Iraq War:
On VARIOUS news-shows he said an overwhelming and "easy" victory in Iraq was on the way. In Jan 2007 he stated "the American people were led to believe that this would be some kind of walk at the beach; when many of us knew it was going to be long and hard"
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stmatthew
05-28-2008, 09:24 AM
Some of McWaffles' Flip Flops:
Jerry Falwell
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) used to dismiss Jerry Falwell as an "agent of intolerance," but later gave the commencement speech at his university.
Free Speech
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain), until recently, was pushing for a reform law that would require conservative groups to reveal their financial donors. But, after fielding protests from evangelical Christians and antiabortion activists, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) decided last month to strip out the provision.
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) in 2000 assailed Bush's proposed tax cuts as a sop to the rich, and a year later, with Bush in office, he voted against those cuts, declaring that "the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle-class Americans." But a year ago, he switched sides and voted to extend tax cuts for the wealthy.
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) in 1999 said that, "even in the long term," he would not support the repeal of Roe v. Wade because "thousands of young American women would be performing illegal and dangerous operations." But last November he said that he now favored repeal because "I don't believe the Supreme Court should be legislating in the way that they did on Roe v. Wade."
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) in 2000 was incensed when a pair of Texas businessmen, Sam and Charley Wyly, bankrolled some Bush-friendly TV ads that distorted McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)'s record. McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) declared at the time that their "dirty money" did not belong in national politics. But last year, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) decided that their dirty money belonged in his campaign; he took $20,000 and allowed them to chair a McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) fund-raiser. (McCain later had to give back the money, because, it turns out, his new friends are reportedly under federal investigation.)
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain), who has long deplored negative politics, defended John Kerry in 2004 when the Democratic candidate's war record was being impugned by the Swift Boaters. But today, one of McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)'s top advisers is GOP hardball specialist Terry Nelson, who has worked as a consultant with one of the principal Swift Boaters. Nelson also produced the notorious '06 TV ad that implied, in the Tennessee Senate race, that the black Democratic candidate cavorted with white women.
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) has voted against a federal constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, but last fall, regarding his own state, he supported an Arizona referendum that would have banned gay marriage.
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) in 2006 suggested that creationism was not a fit topic for the schoolroom: "I respect those who think the world was created in seven days. Should it be taught as a science class? Probably not." But he suggested the opposite in 2005 ("all points of view should be presented"), and Friday he is scheduled to be the keynote speaker at a confab sponsored by the Discovery Institute, a prominent creationism advocacy group.
The Associated Press broke a story about McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)’s statement in Sept 2007 saying that he is in fact a Baptist, despite his past comments that he is an Episcopalian. The news hook is that McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) made these comments while he was in South Carolina, which happens to have a lot of Baptist voters. In a June 2007 interview with McClatchy (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McClatchy) Newspapers, the senator said his wife and two of their children have been baptized in North Phoenix Baptist Church (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/North+Phoenix+Baptist+Church), but he had not. “I didn’t find it necessary to do so for my spiritual needs,” he said. He told McClatchy (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McClatchy) he found the Baptist church more fulfilling than the Episcopalian church, but still referred to himself as an Episcopalian.
Does this matter? On the campaign trail it seems to matter to the self-described straight-talker:
The Associated Press asked McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) on Saturday how his Episcopal faith plays a role in his campaign and life. McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) grew up Episcopalian and attended an Episcopal high school in Alexandria, Va.
“It plays a role in my life. By the way, I’m not Episcopalian. I’m Baptist,” McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) said. “Do I advertise my faith? Do I talk about it all the time? No.”
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) does discuss faith on the campaign trail. He regularly tells crowds about a North Vietnamese POW guard who would loosen his bindings while he was a prisoner. One Christmas, the man surreptitiously signaled his Christian faith, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) says, by making the sign of a cross with his toe in the dirt.
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) said Sunday he doesn’t know how his Baptist faith might affect his showing in South Carolina.
The bigger story here is that McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) is actually talking about his religion. McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) is known for criticizing others for talking about their faith. But back to the particulars of McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)’s statements. There is a simple way of proving one is a Baptist: Has McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) undergone a full-immersion baptism?
As the AP noted, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) had not been baptized into the Baptist church as of June. The first question a reporter should ask a person claiming to be Baptist is whether they have been baptized into the church. Anyone know the answer to this? Unfortunately, the AP found the politics of McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain)’s statement more interesting than what most Baptists in South Carolina are probably wondering.
Abortion:
In NH in 1999 McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) told reporters that "in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade." He explained that overturning Roe would force "women in America to undergo (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/undergo) illegal and dangerous operations."
In 2006, campaigning for the GOP nomination as a conservative, McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) said the opposite.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask one question about abortion. Then I want to turn to Iraq. You're for a constitutional amendment banning abortion, with some exceptions for life and rape and incest.
MCCAIN: Rape, incest and the life of the mother. Yes.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So is President Bush, yet that hasn't advanced in the six years he's been in office. What are you going to do to advance a constitutional amendment that President Bush hasn't done?
MCCAIN: I don't think a constitutional amendment is probably going to take place, but I do believe that it's very likely or possible that the Supreme Court should — could overturn Roe v. Wade, which would then return these decisions to the states, which I support…. Just as I believe that the issue of gay marriage should be decided by the states, so do I believe that we would be better off by having Roe v. Wade return to the states.
Bush Tax Cuts:
McCain (http://myclob.pbwiki.com/McCain) used to oppose Bush's tax cuts, but supported them in Feb 2006 in the leadup to the GOP race (opportunism!)
Daniel, My post was in jest. I do not think we have ANY good candidates to vote for in this upcoming election. While each of them have a quality, none of their qualities merit a position as President of the USA.
The Mrs
05-28-2008, 09:30 AM
Looks like DA is loaded for bear, huh??? :toofunny
rgcraig
05-28-2008, 09:30 AM
Daniel, My post was in jest. I do not think we have ANY good candidates to vote for in this upcoming election. While each of them have a quality, none of their qualities merit a position as President of the USA.
Amen!
Looks like DA is loaded for bear, huh??? :toofunny
Locked and Loaded.
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 09:45 AM
Locked and Loaded.
Pass the ammunition. Oh, that's right, I have my own! :hunter
SOME OF OBAMANATION'S FLIP FLOPS
On Nafta Leading Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has blasted rival Hillary Rodham Clinton for flip-flopping on NAFTA, but, according to the public record, he has also switch positions.
"What the world should interpret is my consistent position, which is I believe in trade," he said after meeting with workers at a manufacturing plant in Ohio. "I just want to make sure that the rules of the road apply to everybody and they are fair and that they reflect the interests of workers and not just corporate profits."
Obama said he opposed NAFTA from the start and U.S. workers were not the only ones to suffer from its effects. Wages and benefits in Mexico had not been improved by the treaty, he said.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57422
Top Obama Flip-Flops
1. Special interests In January, the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as "special interest" money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. He now refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of "working people" and says he is "thrilled" by their support.
This Story
2. Public financing Obama replied "yes" in September 2007 when asked if he would agree to public financing of the presidential election if his GOP opponent did the same. Obama has now attached several conditions to such an agreement, including regulating spending by outside groups. His spokesman says the candidate never committed himself on the matter.
3. The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."
4. Illegal immigration In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should "crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants." He replied "Oppose." In a Jan. 31, 2008, televised debate, he said that "we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation."
5. Decriminalization of marijuana While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In the Oct. 30, 2007, presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/24/AR2008022402094.html
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 09:45 AM
DEMOCRATS DEBATE - OBAMA FLAT CAUGHT LYING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQY_9ZcsjpQ&feature=related
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 09:46 AM
Obama Caught Lying About Slumlord Rezko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXAQ3BHTbjs&feature=related
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 09:47 AM
Obama Flip Flops On NAFTA & Free Trade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA8Bu9c-XA4
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 09:48 AM
Read this elsewhere, and wanted to share it here. :D
The Difference
John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barak Obama were walking down a Washington DC street when they came upon a homeless man.
John McCain gave the man his business card and told him to come to his office for a job. He then took 20 dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the man.
Hillary was very impressed, so when they came upon another homeless person, she decided to help.
She walked over to him and gave him directions to the welfare office. She then reached into John McCain's pocket and took out $20. She kept $15 for her administrative fees and gave the homeless man $5.
When they came upon yet another homeless person, Barak told him to "have hope...change is coming..." and gave him nothing.
Now do you understand the difference?
BTW, love it, StMatt. Sorry for hijacking your thread. I felt compelled! :happydance
How to flip-flop in just 47 seconds...
yvrJRYP9zsM
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 10:51 AM
How to flip-flop in just 47 seconds...
yvrJRYP9zsM
Uh, Daniel. We didn't get to hear the "rest" of the conversation. LOL!
In a few months what? What was he going to say?
Good editing skills, though. :thumbsup
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 10:52 AM
Obama LIED About Taking Money From Oil Companies (PA Ad)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e84X7pjJWZk&feature=related
McCain Flip Flops - Sets Timetable For Withdrawal From Iraq (http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/38944-mccain-flip-flops-sets-timetable-for-withdrawal-from-iraq)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nthTfuGT2go
McCain Flip Flops On The Iraq War (http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/37260-mccain-flip-flops-on-the-iraq-war)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCAT7AfdxXg
rgcraig
05-28-2008, 10:56 AM
This is like a tennis match!
stmatthew
05-28-2008, 10:57 AM
Its a flip-flop war in here!!!
http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/f2/69/2f9b_1.JPG
McCain Flip Flops On His Cuba Position (http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/39487-mccain-flip-flops-on-his-cuba-position)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxjRhRpOe18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxjRhRpOe18)
John McCain Flip Flops on Gay Marriage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeBw28tX5Nw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeBw28tX5Nw)
Cindy
05-28-2008, 11:05 AM
Boy those flip flops should be worn out by now.
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 11:09 AM
Boy those flip flops should be worn out by now.
:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny
It's a tit for tat - for sure!!!
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 11:11 AM
This is like a tennis match!
:toofunny:toofunny
Well, at least St. Matthew's thread is getting some coverage.
stmatthew
05-28-2008, 11:12 AM
:toofunny:toofunny
Well, at least St. Matthew's thread is getting some coverage.
So, do you think Daniel voting for McCain?? :toofunny
So, do you think Daniel voting for McCain?? :toofunny
I might if he drops his Republican label and runs for the Green party this November. Very possible based on his proven track record.
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 11:16 AM
So, do you think Daniel voting for McCain?? :toofunny
Probably. :killinme
McCain rates higher on national security. If you don't have that you don't have an economy either. It all hinges on national security.
Matt ... do you really need changing ...
Sorry bro ... I don't do diapers.
Timmy
05-28-2008, 11:39 AM
I used to be in favor of waffling. Now I'm against it. :lol
Read this elsewhere, and wanted to share it here. :D
The Difference
John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barak Obama were walking down a Washington DC street when they came upon a homeless man.
John McCain gave the man his business card and told him to come to his office for a job. He then took 20 dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the man.
Hillary was very impressed, so when they came upon another homeless person, she decided to help.
She walked over to him and gave him directions to the welfare office. She then reached into John McCain's pocket and took out $20. She kept $15 for her administrative fees and gave the homeless man $5.
When they came upon yet another homeless person, Barak told him to "have hope...change is coming..." and gave him nothing.
Now do you understand the difference?
LOL!!! I love it.
An ancient philosopher said that Democracy would only last until the public realized they could vote themselves the treasury.
I fear we are reaching that tipping point in America.
HeavenlyOne
05-28-2008, 04:24 PM
Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John McCain were flying to Washington for a meeting.
Hillary says, "You know, I could throw out a $1000 bill and make someone down there very happy."
Obama says, "You know, I could throw out ten $100 bills and make ten people down there very happy."
John speaks up and says, "You know, I could throw out a hundred $10 bills and make a hundred people down there very happy."
The pilot, hearing the exchanges, says to the co-pilot, "You know, I could throw the three of them out and make about 150 million people down there very happy."
:D
Daniel, My post was in jest. I do not think we have ANY good candidates to vote for in this upcoming election. While each of them have a quality, none of their qualities merit a position as President of the USA.
Sad, but true.
dizzyde
05-28-2008, 05:31 PM
Its a flip-flop war in here!!!
http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/f2/69/2f9b_1.JPG
Cuuuute!!! I LOVE flip-flops!!!! :happydance :toofunny
dizzyde
05-28-2008, 05:34 PM
Daniel, My post was in jest. I do not think we have ANY good candidates to vote for in this upcoming election. While each of them have a quality, none of their qualities merit a position as President of the USA.
Exactly, just finding it hard to care this time around. The only reason that I can find to vote is concern over Supreme Court nominations, other than that; half-a-dozen of one, six of the other (as my dad always says).
TRFrance
05-28-2008, 05:39 PM
In a nation of 300+ million people, its absurd to me that we end up having to choose between McCain and Obama to be our president.
Its just appalling to think that these two are the best we could come up with.
crakjak
05-28-2008, 05:56 PM
In a nation of 300+ million people, its absurd to me that we end up having to choose between McCain and Obama to be our president.
Its just appalling to think that these two are the best we could come up with.
I am not too excited about voting for McCain until I look at the alternative. With the Supreme Court have one or two new judges in the next four years, we can't afford a Demo President.
Then with the thought of President Barak Hassan Obama, sorry that doesn't compute for me.
I prefer a president that understands what the military's purpose is, to protect against all enemies, and is not afraid to stand up to and kill those with evil intent.
I'm old school, if you go to war, you destroy the opposing army and you take the spoils of war to try and heal a people--Germany and Japan are good examples. Vietnam and Iraq, not so good examples. Too many wimps in government today.
ForeverBlessed
05-28-2008, 06:09 PM
Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John McCain were flying to Washington for a meeting.
Hillary says, "You know, I could throw out a $1000 bill and make someone down there very happy."
Obama says, "You know, I could throw out ten $100 bills and make ten people down there very happy."
John speaks up and says, "You know, I could throw out a hundred $10 bills and make a hundred people down there very happy."
The pilot, hearing the exchanges, says to the co-pilot, "You know, I could throw the three of them out and make about 150 million people down there very happy."
:D
I would be one of them. :D
PO,
You know good and well we have to vote for Obama so Michelle can be proud of her country!
Everybody knows we have to vote for Obama because to not do so would be racist!
Scott Hutchinson
05-28-2008, 07:48 PM
It's a shame we can't vote for Ron Paul in NOV.
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 11:22 PM
PO,
You know good and well we have to vote for Obama so Michelle can be proud of her country!
Everybody knows we have to vote for Obama because to not do so would be racist!
Yep, and we want her to be proud! Actually, I don't care if she is or not. :toofunny
They have, both, made their own racial statements and arguments, which we expected. Lord, I get sick of that.
I think he's arrogant and I don't like him - at all.
Encryptus
05-28-2008, 11:39 PM
Yep, and we want her to be proud! Actually, I don't care if she is or not. :toofunny
They have, both, made their own racial statements and arguments, which we expected. Lord, I get sick of that.
I think he's arrogant and I don't like him - at all.
He does seem to have that John Kerry quality.
Always seems as though he is talking down.
Pressing-On
05-28-2008, 11:41 PM
He does seem to have that John Kerry quality.
Always seems as though he is talking down.
John Kerry - you mean Herman Munster?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/91/Herman.Munster.jpg/200px-Herman.Munster.jpg
:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny
DanielR
05-29-2008, 12:41 AM
John Kerry - you mean Herman Munster?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/91/Herman.Munster.jpg/200px-Herman.Munster.jpg
:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny
So that's it! I though I had recognized him from somewhere.
Pressing-On
05-29-2008, 10:59 AM
With all of his flaws, this is what I do like about McCain. In this clip he is expressing his views on Nuclear power/waste and illegal immigration even though some points are not being received by him. His ratings are higher here than Obama, regardless.
It is my opinion that the America people want "straight forward" talk no matter whether they agree or not. They just want what you say to be straight.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/05/mccain_in_nevada.html
TRFrance
05-29-2008, 11:07 AM
I prefer a president that understands what the military's purpose is, to protect against all enemies, and is not afraid to stand up to and kill those with evil intent.
I'm old school, if you go to war, you destroy the opposing army and you take the spoils of war to try and heal a people--Germany and Japan are good examples. Vietnam and Iraq, not so good examples. Too many wimps in government today.
Obama's staff recently said he is now strongly considering a visit to Iraq.
My question is, what took him so long?
NObama 2008!
nathan_slatter
05-29-2008, 11:10 AM
It's a shame we can't vote for Ron Paul in NOV.
Write him in, my friend, write him in.
nathan_slatter
05-29-2008, 11:11 AM
All of the fanning that their flip flopping is causing is balance out the ill affects of Global Warming...
nathan_slatter
05-29-2008, 11:12 AM
Obama's staff recently said he is now strongly considering a visit to Iraq.
My question is, what took him so long?
NObama 2008!
Maybe he wished the "snipers" would shoot at him across the deck of the ship so that he can be as heroic as Hilary.
Pressing-On
05-29-2008, 11:14 AM
Obama's staff recently said he is now strongly considering a visit to Iraq.
My question is, what took him so long?
NObama 2008!
Because the suggestion was made by Lindsay Graham on May 26. He knew it would escalate in the media and now he has to go to save face.
McCain made a good point when he said that Obama wants to meet with Abmadinejad. He said, words to the effect, "I think he should meet with General Petraeus."
:toofunny:toofunny
chosenbyone
05-29-2008, 11:46 AM
McCain guru linked to subprime crisis
The general co-chairman of John McCain’s presidential campaign, former Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Texas), led the charge in 1999 to repeal a Depression-era banking regulation law that Democrat Barack Obama claimed on Thursday contributed significantly to today’s economic turmoil.
“A regulatory structure set up for banks in the 1930s needed to change because the nature of business had changed,” the Illinois senator running for president said in a New York economic speech. “But by the time [it] was repealed in 1999, the $300 million lobbying effort that drove deregulation was more about facilitating mergers than creating an efficient regulatory framework.”
Gramm’s role in the swift and dramatic recent restructuring of the nation’s investment houses and practices didn’t stop there.
A year after the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed the old regulations, Swiss Bank UBS gobbled up brokerage house Paine Weber. Two years later, Gramm settled in as a vice chairman of UBS’s new investment banking arm.
Later, he became a major player in its government affairs operation. According to federal lobbying disclosure records, Gramm lobbied Congress, the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department about banking and mortgage issues in 2005 and 2006.
During those years, the mortgage industry pressed Congress to roll back strong state rules that sought to stem the rise of predatory tactics used by lenders and brokers to place homeowners in high-cost mortgages.
For his work, Gramm and two other lobbyists collected $750,000 in fees from UBS’s American subsidiary. In the past year, UBS has written down more than $18 billion in exposure to subprime loans and other risky securities and is considering cutting as many as 8,000 jobs.
Gramm did not respond to an e-mail and was unavailable for comment, according to a UBS spokesman. The bank has no official position on the subprime crisis, the spokesman said, but is a member of the Financial Services Roundtable and other industry groups that are actively lobbying Congress on the issue.
Now, some housing experts and economists see Gramm’s thinking in the recent housing proposal from McCain, the Republican Party’s presumed presidential nominee. Gramm is often a surrogate for the Arizona senator, particularly in meetings focused on the economy. And McCain has hinted he’d consider the former Texas senator for Treasury secretary in a McCain administration.
McCain delivered an economic speech Tuesday that had Gramm's input, but it was written by domestic policy adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin.
“Sen. Gramm was one of dozens of folks whom Sen. McCain has consulted on the housing issue, including Carly Fiorina and Meg Whitman from eBay," said McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers. "They've been friends for years, and he values Sen. Gramm's advice."
In the speech, McCain rejected the type of aggressive government intervention in the economic meltdown that has been embraced by his Democratic opponents — and even some Bush advisers.
“I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers,” McCain said. “Government assistance to the banking system should be based solely on preventing systemic risk that would endanger the entire financial system and the economy.”
McCain’s campaign later clarified that he would support programs for “deserving” homeowners and reforms that would improve transparency and accountability in capital markets.
Andrew Jakabovics, a housing expert at the liberal Center for American Progress, said McCain’s interpretation of the crisis puts little blame on investment banks for their role in packaging the subprime loans into dangerously complex and ultimately hard-to-value financial instruments.
“I’d characterize this as the deux ex machina theory of financial products,” Jakabovics said. “He views this as a market problem that manifests at the local level as housing, meaning he’s more likely to argue in favor of these guys when they argue for deregulation.”
Wall Street firms are increasingly under scrutiny for contributing to the economic downturn by packaging and selling risky mortgage securities. When the home loans tied to the mortgages defaulted, investors and the banks lost billions, contributing to a widespread credit crunch.
“I think [McCain’s] attitude is the market can basically handle this and government doesn’t need to be heavily involved,” said David Wyss, chief economist at Standard and Poor’s.
McCain and Gramm have a long political history. The two became close when they worked together as senators to defeat Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 1993 health care plan, holding meetings at hospitals and clinics across the country.
In 1996, McCain was national chairman of Gramm's unsuccessful presidential bid.
In 2000, the duo had a rare parting when Gramm backed his home-state governor, George W. Bush, for president instead of McCain. But they’ve reunited in this presidential race.
Gramm stood by his former Senate colleague in his worst days last summer when his campaign went broke and his candidacy was all but written off by political observers.
Gramm, who had joined the campaign in March as a domestic policy adviser, was among those who helped cut staff and shrink the budgets. He traveled with McCain in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina and stumped for him in Georgia.
CAN WE TRUST MCCAIN WHEN HE HAS AN ADVISER AND GENERAL CO-ADVISOR LIKE GRAMM WHO WAS UNTIL A FEW WEEKS AGO A LOBBYIST FOR UBS? GRAMM HAS BEEN MENTIONED TO BE MCCAIN'S PICK FOR TREASURE RY SECRETARY!
chosenbyone
05-29-2008, 12:00 PM
THIS ONE IS FOR YOU, PO! ENJOY!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dnLCK3knuY8&feature=related
Pressing-On
05-29-2008, 12:24 PM
THIS ONE IS FOR YOU, PO! ENJOY!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dnLCK3knuY8&feature=related
Oh my gosh!!!! You're a nut!!!!
:toofunny:toofunny
Pressing-On
05-30-2008, 09:39 AM
Top Seven Reasons Why Barack Obama is a Weaker Candidate Than People Think
John Hawkins
Friday, May 30, 2008
(excerpt)
Howard Dean 2.0
Some of his greatest hits include:
"You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
"You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a (flag) pin. Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war, that became a substitute for, I think, true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest..."
"Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go."
Obama's Entourage
He's Not Qualified To Be President
The Demographics Disaster
From The Post-Racial Candidate To Al Sharpton 2.0
Northern Liberals Lose
Alien Vs. Predator: The Democratic Edition
Conclusion: It's impossible to say at this early date who would win a McCain vs. Obama match-up in November, but what we can say with certainty is that even though this is shaping up to be a bad year for the GOP, Obama is very beatable.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2008/05/30/top_seven_reasons_why_barack_obama_is_a_weaker_can didate_than_people_think
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