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Buffy
03-20-2007, 09:44 PM
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
Sherri
03-20-2007, 09:46 PM
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or I maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
Obviously I don't think there's anything wrong with a beard on a guy (see the avatar!). However, I've always thought it was hilarious that guys could grow them for the Easter plays and then have to shave immediately afterwards. For Pete's sake, if it's a sin, it's a sin. If not, then let them wear them whenever they want. All the UPC churches around here do this, and I have never understood it!
Buffy
03-20-2007, 09:49 PM
This is the first year we have actually grown them. My husband was the instigator of this. I guess my being uncomfortable with it is how I was raised. I'm just not used to it.
rgcraig
03-20-2007, 09:50 PM
Well, if my Daddy doesn't go to heaven because he grew a beard for the church Easter drama, then something is wrong with this whole business!
If they grow them to be like the characters in the Bible, then when did it become wrong?
rgcraig
03-20-2007, 09:50 PM
Obviously I don't think there's anything wrong with a beard on a guy (see the avatar!). However, I've always thought it was hilarious that guys could grow them for the Easter plays and then have to shave immediately afterwards. For Pete's sake, if it's a sin, it's a sin. If not, then let them wear them whenever they want. All the UPC churches around here do this, and I have never understood it!
Well, it'll be funny to see because my daddy will have more on his face than his head (Buffy don't you tell him I said that)!
Sherri
03-20-2007, 09:51 PM
Well, if my Daddy doesn't go to heaven because he grew a beard for the church Easter drama, then something is wrong with this whole business!
If they grow them to be like the characters in the Bible, then when did it become wrong?
It's NOT wrong. I think it's wrong when they make them shave the next day though.
Carpenter
03-20-2007, 09:53 PM
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
Not only did the men wear beards, but for our church Easter drama the women also wore makeup. Some of those plain-faced denim whales looked quite attractive dressed in ancient robes, jewelry and modern mascara!
:slaphappy :slaphappy
Buffy
03-20-2007, 09:53 PM
Well, if my Daddy doesn't go to heaven because he grew a beard for the church Easter drama, then something is wrong with this whole business!
If they grow them to be like the characters in the Bible, then when did it become wrong?
Exactly my pastor does not preach against them. We sort of have a platform (I hesitate to say standard) dress code about them. But, my husband's previous job did not allow beards. Okay Renda, since you "outed' yourself!!! I agree with you if your dad misses heaven because of it. I am in trouble!!!!
rgcraig
03-20-2007, 09:55 PM
Exactly my pastor does not preach against them. We sort of have a platform (I hesitate to say standard) dress code about them. But, my husband's previous job did not allow beards. Okay Renda, since you "outed' yourself!!! I agree with you if your dad misses heaven because of it. I am in trouble!!!!
Exactly! I can't wait to see him.
Buffy
03-20-2007, 09:55 PM
Well, it'll be funny to see because my daddy will have more on his face than his head (Buffy don't you tell him I said that)!
My lips are sealed
Buffy
03-20-2007, 09:58 PM
:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny Not only did the men wear beards, but for our church Easter drama the women also wore makeup. Some of those plain-faced denim whales looked quite attractive dressed in ancient robes, jewelry and modern mascara!
:slaphappy :slaphappy
rgcraig
03-20-2007, 10:00 PM
Oh lord....here we go now.
rgcraig
03-20-2007, 10:01 PM
Exactly my pastor does not preach against them. We sort of have a platform (I hesitate to say standard) dress code about them. But, my husband's previous job did not allow beards. Okay Renda, since you "outed' yourself!!! I agree with you if your dad misses heaven because of it. I am in trouble!!!!
Well, I'm not the one growing the beard!
Arphaxad
03-20-2007, 10:02 PM
What about the men that play the part of the Roman centurians, they'll be showing more leg than any sister is ''allowed" too. hardeharhar
ARPH
Buffy
03-20-2007, 10:03 PM
Well, I'm not the one growing the beard!
I guess thats sorta like me plucking mine!:toofunny
ManOfWord
03-20-2007, 10:05 PM
My lips are sealed
But are they colored? :D
Buffy
03-20-2007, 10:06 PM
What about the men that play the part of the Roman centurians, they'll be showing more leg than any sister is ''allowed" too. hardeharhar
Good point!!!!
rgcraig
03-20-2007, 10:06 PM
But are they colored? :D
Not hers, but she can sing unreal!
Buffy
03-20-2007, 10:07 PM
Not hers, but she can sing unreal!
Thank You!!!
ManOfWord
03-20-2007, 10:07 PM
I think this whole thing is totally silly and truthfully sinful. There is nothing more important than relationships. For someone to jeopardize a relationship simply because one has chosen to grow a beard is "religious" poppycock!!!!!! It does NOT make the Lord happy one bit! It is Phariseeical and devilish!
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! :D
Buffy
03-20-2007, 10:10 PM
I think this whole thing is totally silly and truthfully sinful. There is nothing more important than relationships. For someone to jeopardize a relationship simply because one has chosen to grow a beard is "religious" poppcock!!!!!! It does NOT make the Lord happy one bit! It is Phariseeical and devilish!
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! :D
Okay, Say Again!:confused:
rgcraig
03-20-2007, 10:11 PM
I think this whole thing is totally silly and truthfully sinful. There is nothing more important than relationships. For someone to jeopardize a relationship simply because one has chosen to grow a beard is "religious" poppcock!!!!!! It does NOT make the Lord happy one bit! It is Phariseeical and devilish!
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! :D
Okay, Howie.
ManOfWord
03-20-2007, 10:14 PM
Okay, Howie.
Maybe I should have said, "That's my DEAL and I'm stickin' to it!"
Praxeas
03-20-2007, 10:30 PM
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
Think about what? Growing a beard? Not a sin!
Praxeas
03-20-2007, 10:33 PM
What about the men that play the part of the Roman centurians, they'll be showing more leg than any sister is ''allowed" too. hardeharhar
ARPH
Hmmmm :hmmm .....Maybe we should try to be more PC and have female Roman soldiers?
rrford
03-20-2007, 10:34 PM
Hmmmm :hmmm .....Maybe we should try to be more PC and have female Roman soldiers?
Only the ones that can grow beards.
Praxeas
03-20-2007, 10:34 PM
I think this whole thing is totally silly and truthfully sinful. There is nothing more important than relationships. For someone to jeopardize a relationship simply because one has chosen to grow a beard is "religious" poppycock!!!!!! It does NOT make the Lord happy one bit! It is Phariseeical and devilish!
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! :D
Seriously....now if your daddy was wearin speedos then I think most of us will agree you are right to be embarrassed and never speak to him as long as you live....
Praxeas
03-20-2007, 10:34 PM
Only the ones that can grow beards.
On their legs?
ManOfWord
03-20-2007, 10:35 PM
Only the ones that can grow beards.
Ewwwwww......yechhhhhhhh!
rrford
03-20-2007, 10:35 PM
On their legs?
Reckon some could. :slaphappy
Steve Epley
03-21-2007, 05:06 AM
The solution do NOT have dramas we are in the preaching business NOT show business.:tiphat
Fonix
03-21-2007, 05:17 AM
Obviously I don't think there's anything wrong with a beard on a guy (see the avatar!). However, I've always thought it was hilarious that guys could grow them for the Easter plays and then have to shave immediately afterwards. For Pete's sake, if it's a sin, it's a sin. If not, then let them wear them whenever they want. All the UPC churches around here do this, and I have never understood it!
Sherri. Glad I read your post before I said something. Its exactly my thoughts. If its wrong the rest of the yr, then its wrong at Easter. Wouldnt anything else be a double standard?
Rhoni
03-21-2007, 05:41 AM
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
I so hate the ignorance of some...I could preach a sermon but who would listen?:grampa
Just a Shepherd
03-21-2007, 06:07 AM
The solution do NOT have dramas we are in the preaching business NOT show business.:tiphat
Better yet elder, don't celebrate Easter, celebrate Passover. We are in the Christian business, not the pagan business.
freeatlast
03-21-2007, 07:03 AM
II Sam 10: 4-5 When Davids men were captured by Hunun, their captors shaved off half of each mans beard. ( yes they ALL had beards)
To be without a beard was considerered a shame ( you know a like a women who had her shorn to humilate her, was a shame)
Rather than just shave off the half beard that was left and then go home, they were told to stay at Jericho, till their beards grew back out. They were ashamed to be without their beard.
We speak of gender distinction between the sexes.... BEARDS are the true bible distinction between the sexes NOT DRESSES AND PANTS.
In our American culture today, the beard is no longer considered a salutation, it's no longer a custom to swear by it.
The decisiion to have a beard today should be a Rom 14 thing..totally up to you to decide to wear one or not, It's NO PREACHERS BUSINESS. Go worry about something sinful if you need sermon matereial.
The only thing sinful about facial hair or beards on men today is that some of us have made an isssue out of it.
Some have made it salvational or a test of fellowship. That is SINFUL to do that.
rgcraig
03-21-2007, 07:05 AM
II Sam 10: 4-5 When Davids men were captured by Hunun, their captors shaved off half of each mans beard. ( yes they ALL had beards)
To be without a beard was considerered a shame ( you know a like a women who had her shorn to humilate her, was a shame)
Rather than just shave off the half beard that was left and then go home, they were told to stay at Jericho, till their beards grew back out. They were ashamed to be without their beard.
We speak of gender distinction between the sexes.... BEARDS are the true bible distinction between the sexes NOT DRESSES AND PANTS.
In our American culture today, the beard is no longer considered a salutation, it's no longer a custom to swear by it.
The only thing sinful about facial hair or beards on men today is that some of us have made an isssue out of it.
Some have made it salvational or a test of fellowship. That is SINFUL to do that.
Pick and choose - pick and choose....what's your point? :toofunny
harleypreacher
03-21-2007, 07:20 AM
I was always taught that a woman who trims her hair was going against nature. One day as I was shaving I got this revelation that I was also going against nature. I still shave but quit preaching a double standard. I bet the men who opose beards also believe women trimming their hair is against nature. God put the hair on our face for a reason, a divine design from God. A beard says that you're a man just like the pants you wear.
freeatlast
03-21-2007, 07:20 AM
Pick and choose - pick and choose....what's your point? :toofunny
My point, if I have one :toofunny , is our laughable inconsistency in our "STANDARDS" scripture's. (Oh how I hate to refer to them as such.)
We totally ignore the true teaching of Deut 22:5, thinking it is refering to a women wearing a dress (never pants) and imopose a law on our women.
Then we totally ignore the fact that every hebrew male had a beard, and that is a "shame unto him if he did'nt. If he shaved it off he may have been thought of as "light in his sandles" :neener
No wonder...Grrrr never mind. :grampa
Digging4Truth
03-21-2007, 07:21 AM
Obviously I don't think there's anything wrong with a beard on a guy (see the avatar!). However, I've always thought it was hilarious that guys could grow them for the Easter plays and then have to shave immediately afterwards. For Pete's sake, if it's a sin, it's a sin. If not, then let them wear them whenever they want. All the UPC churches around here do this, and I have never understood it!
Men can wear beards for the Easter drama.
Women can wear pajama pants at home.
People rent the DVD's of movies they won't go to the theatre to see.
A sports game with someone who is good at what they do is a sin but churches get together and play sports together.
It is clear that people do not believe what they preach.
If people truly believed it was a sin for women to wear mens clothing then they wouldn't be wearing pajama pants.... what sin ceases to be a sin when it is indoors?
If they believed it was a sin (or even just wrong) to wear a beard then they certainly wouldn't do WRONG in recognition of Christs death.
If sports is a worldly entertainment then... guess what... it is a worldly entertainment... burn your bats.
People will railroad you to hell if they hear you went and saw Happy Feet at a theater but wait until it comes out on DVD baby....
What's going on?
Their desire to preserve culture, save face & be one of the guys is in struggle with what they truly believe in their heart if they would just be honest enough with me, themselves and God to admit it.
As a pastor from my past used to say... "Be a pig or a pup"
freeatlast
03-21-2007, 07:26 AM
The solution do NOT have dramas we are in the preaching business NOT show business.:tiphat
Yes. Or we could dig a whole and stick our heads in a little further.
I remember you post from FCF, and well remember your wisdom on the subjest of alllowing a man in your church with facial hair.
__________________________________________________ _____
Originally Posted by steveepley There are Pentecostal churches all around me they can go to Heaven from there I will share. Feeling generous today. (tongue out) Yes this is God's church but I am the poor example of the nit-wit he placed over this work and I am so small-minded andcontrolling I say NOT HERE!(deadhorse)I will tell them GO TO HEAVEN but not from here!(six smileys)
South of I 90
03-21-2007, 07:50 AM
Obviously I don't think there's anything wrong with a beard on a guy (see the avatar!). However, I've always thought it was hilarious that guys could grow them for the Easter plays and then have to shave immediately afterwards. For Pete's sake, if it's a sin, it's a sin. If not, then let them wear them whenever they want. All the UPC churches around here do this, and I have never understood it!
I don't have an issue with beards, mustaches, goatees, van dykes, soul patches, etc.
However is it a STANDARD that a non-denominational spirit filled pastor must adorned facial hair, preferrably a GOATEE!!
Maybe a fell in the stereotyping trap................sorry.
Steve Epley
03-21-2007, 09:04 AM
Better yet elder, don't celebrate Easter, celebrate Passover. We are in the Christian business, not the pagan business.
Now that is a thought.:tiphat
rgcraig
03-21-2007, 09:08 AM
Better yet elder, don't celebrate Easter, celebrate Passover. We are in the Christian business, not the pagan business.
But I LOVE those little malt ball Robin Eggs!!!!!!
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
There is no BIBLICAL basis for prohibiting beards. In fact, the Law of Moses (which is cited for prohibiting women from wearing pants, since pants are supposedly that which pertaineth unto a man) commands not to mar the corners of one's beard. This presumes 1) that a man has a beard and 2) that at least the corners of it are not to be marred (does that mean cut, I'm not sure).
Digging4Truth
03-21-2007, 09:15 AM
Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd View Post
Better yet elder, don't celebrate Easter, celebrate Passover. We are in the Christian business, not the pagan business.
So true...
Jesus wasn't the lamb of the first Sunday following the first ecclesiastical full moon that occurs on or after the day of the vernal equinox
Jesus was the Passover lamb.
Steve Epley
03-21-2007, 09:35 AM
So true...
Jesus wasn't the lamb of the first Sunday following the first ecclesiastical full moon that occurs on or after the day of the vernal equinox
Jesus was the Passover lamb.
Can you believe we agree????????????????????????? Call the law!!!!:happydance :happydance
Digging4Truth
03-21-2007, 09:37 AM
Can you believe we agree????????????????????????? Call the law!!!!:happydance :happydance
LOL.... On the holidays we see eye to eye...
Buffy
03-21-2007, 11:06 AM
I guess I realize now that we all think we are right in "our beliefs" I guess we should use our personal convictions to decide what is best for us. Whether it be beards, hair cutting, etc... We are all going to interpret scriptures differently!!! All of us seem to be good moral people!!! So I think I have my answer!:tiphat
Digging4Truth
03-21-2007, 11:15 AM
I guess I realize now that we all think we are right in "our beliefs" I guess we should use our personal convictions to decide what is best for us. Whether it be beards, hair cutting, etc... We are all going to interpret scriptures differently!!! All of us seem to be good moral people!!! So I think I have my answer!:tiphat
The problem is when people hold beliefs for which they have no scripture... well that isn't such a problem... it is when they apply to others that it becomes a real problem.
Scott Hutchinson
03-21-2007, 11:19 AM
Personally I don't have a probelm with facial hair on men, I find no scripture agains't it.I prefer not to have it ,but as long as a brother keeps it trim and neat I have no probelm with it.
Facial hair is something I wouldn't promote or prohibit either.
Drama Queen
03-21-2007, 11:49 AM
I've done and Easter Drama here for the past four years. We do six performances and we have had over 600 first time visitors. Our town knows the church by that drama. I get stopped all the time around town by people that just wanna tell me how much the drama touched them.
My men grow beards. Most of them start growing them around November. I use theatrical stage make-up on both the men and women. My romans wear the shorter outfits. I believe the NLYP posted photo's of the drama on NFCF.
Drama Queen
03-21-2007, 12:07 PM
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h281/redheaded985/100_2985.jpg
nathan_slatter
03-21-2007, 12:11 PM
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
The problem with beards is that certain length when they get all itchy and irritated. I keep mine trimmed just before that length.
South of I 90
03-21-2007, 12:34 PM
Speaking of big Easter pageants, I heard that the POA has officially retired their Messiah production.
Praxeas
03-21-2007, 12:40 PM
The problem with beards is that certain length when they get all itchy and irritated. I keep mine trimmed just before that length.
I assume it's too short to get food particles caught in?
When I was a kid my mother remarried to this guy that had a full beard. It was kinda sick being at the table and watching a stuck piece of food going up and down up and down as he chewed
nathan_slatter
03-21-2007, 12:43 PM
I assume it's too short to get food particles caught in?
When I was a kid my mother remarried to this guy that had a full beard. It was kinda sick being at the table and watching a stuck piece of food going up and down up and down as he chewed
Yeah -- it was that long once but I quickly trimmed it...
chseeads
03-21-2007, 12:45 PM
Flavor saver.
MrsMcD
03-21-2007, 12:45 PM
I assume it's too short to get food particles caught in?
When I was a kid my mother remarried to this guy that had a full beard. It was kinda sick being at the table and watching a stuck piece of food going up and down up and down as he chewed
This is so gross and precisely why I don't like beards. lol
Drama Queen
03-21-2007, 12:50 PM
The problem with beards is that certain length when they get all itchy and irritated. I keep mine trimmed just before that length.
All the guys complain about that all the time. :neener
Drama Queen
03-21-2007, 12:51 PM
Flavor saver.
OH GROSS!!!!!!:ignore :ignore :ignore :ignore
Drama Queen
03-21-2007, 12:53 PM
Speaking of big Easter pageants, I heard that the POA has officially retired their Messiah production.
I don't think so.... I'm good friends with the director and last he told me was they were on for Easter 2008. Also Bro Anthony has up the dates for BOTT because of Messiah.
I assume it's too short to get food particles caught in?
When I was a kid my mother remarried to this guy that had a full beard. It was kinda sick being at the table and watching a stuck piece of food going up and down up and down as he chewedInteresting. Food doesn't get stuck in my beard. Then again, maybe it's because I learned from a very young age how to actually put the food IN my mouth.
All the guys complain about that all the time. :neenerBut once it gets beyond that length, the itching stops.
nathan_slatter
03-21-2007, 12:56 PM
Interesting. Food doesn't get stuck in my beard. Then again, maybe it's because I learned from a very young age how to actually put the food IN my mouth.
Bwahahaha -- :slaphappy
I still have problems with that and I'm in my 30's...
nathan_slatter
03-21-2007, 12:57 PM
But once it gets beyond that length, the itching stops.
It does. My problem is that mine is a bit spare in areas so I keep it short. I'm thinking about shaving it again. I've had a goatee for several years and the goatee whiskers are darker than the rest of the beard -- which is weird....
South of I 90
03-21-2007, 01:19 PM
I don't think so.... I'm good friends with the director and last he told me was they were on for Easter 2008. Also Bro Anthony has up the dates for BOTT because of Messiah.
Your right about that because that was announced at this years BOTT.
However it changed, because he announced the retirement of Messiah a couple of weeks ago during one of the worship services.
Drama Queen
03-21-2007, 01:33 PM
Your right about that because that was announced at this years BOTT.
However it changed, because he announced the retirement of Messiah a couple of weeks ago during one of the worship services.
Wow... hadn't heard that. I'll call Bro. Keith and find out.
Ronzo
03-21-2007, 01:52 PM
Easter = Ishtar
PAGANS!!!
:slaphappy :tiphat
It does. My problem is that mine is a bit spare in areas so I keep it short. I'm thinking about shaving it again. I've had a goatee for several years and the goatee whiskers are darker than the rest of the beard -- which is weird....I grew my first beard during my senior year in high school. I had to shave it off when I joined the Navy but soon after I reported to my first ship I was allowed to grow it again but then the Navy did away with beards (because one couldn't get a proper seal when putting on a gas mask). After I left the Navy in 1992, I grew my beard again and kept it ever since, except for a short time around 1997-1998 when I went without one.
SoCaliUPC
03-21-2007, 02:01 PM
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
There is nothing more "hokey" then portraying an "illustrated sermon" about the life, death and resurrection of our Lord and a fake beard pops off. One of (not the ONLY, but ONE OF) the defining demarkations seperating a man and a woman is God put hair on the face of a man. Jesus Christ himself...had a beard. Let the men grow a beard.
I also find it just odd that he would have to tell every UPC person he came in contact with why he had a beard as if it was equated with his salvation or doctrinal beliefs.
Sherri
03-21-2007, 03:30 PM
There is nothing more "hokey" then portraying an "illustrated sermon" about the life, death and resurrection of our Lord and a fake beard pops off. One of (not the ONLY, but ONE OF) the defining demarkations seperating a man and a woman is God put hair on the face of a man. Jesus Christ himself...had a beard. Let the men grow a beard.
I also find it just odd that he would have to tell every UPC person he came in contact with why he had a beard as if it was equated with his salvation or doctrinal beliefs.
Duh.......where have you been? I think they do think it's salvational.
LaVonne
03-21-2007, 03:33 PM
Duh.......where have you been? I think they do think it's salvational.
That's crazy! If they really do think it's salvational, then it's sin to grow one even for a drama.
In the past when I helped with dramas we did some very realistic beards with that braided hair stuff you get at the party store. You cut it to the length you want and "glue" it it on with spirit gum..think that's what it's called...and it doesn't fall off.
Sherri
03-21-2007, 03:41 PM
That's crazy! If they really do think it's salvational, then it's sin to grow one even for a drama.
In the past when I helped with dramas we did some very realistic beards with that braided hair stuff you get at the party store. You cut it to the length you want and "glue" it it on with spirit gum..think that's what it's called...and it doesn't fall off.
That's been my point all along. If it's a SIN, then it's a sin at Easter too. Maybe they don't think it's a sin anymore; we've been gone from UPC 16 years. But back then, it was considered a SIN.:grampa
LaVonne
03-21-2007, 03:43 PM
That's been my point all along. If it's a SIN, then it's a sin at Easter too. Maybe they don't think it's a sin anymore; we've been gone from UPC 16 years. But back then, it was considered a SIN.:grampa
We are UPC and we don't consider it sin. However, I really don't like facial hair on a man (or a woman ;)) so, it's not a big deal to me.
Digging4Truth
03-21-2007, 03:50 PM
Not many have the guts to call it a sin anymore (this is a good thing) but I would dare say that the vast majority of UPC churches out there would view a man who had received the Holy Ghost and was still wearing a beard as a "problem" and would breathe a collective sigh of relief when he finally shaved it off. Of course this would be followed with the appropriate mass conditioning response of dozens of "Brother you look so much better now".
Until a man wearing a nicely kept beard is viewed no differently as a man with a nice tie then the beard will still bear its "well... it's not a sin but..... are you sure you don't want to shave that thing off" badge of dishonor.
COOPER
03-21-2007, 03:52 PM
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
This kind of stuff is so sad.
freeatlast
03-21-2007, 04:29 PM
Let it be known that I have recently grown a beard. We are UPC. I am sure I will be criticized and perhaps ostrasized by some.
And frankly my dear I don't give a ..................
It's past time that we get over ourselves and the Hair-esy we teach on the subject of facial hair on men.
Digging4Truth
03-21-2007, 04:30 PM
It's past time that we get over ourselves and the Hair-esy we teach on the subject of facial hair on men.
Indeed.
BoredOutOfMyMind
03-21-2007, 05:18 PM
I am against Women growing Beards.
Ever.
Hesetmefree238
03-21-2007, 05:29 PM
Not only did the men wear beards, but for our church Easter drama the women also wore makeup. Some of those plain-faced denim whales looked quite attractive dressed in ancient robes, jewelry and modern mascara!
:slaphappy :slaphappy
So the way God created people (plain faced as you call it - no makeup) does not look good. To me that is an insult to our creator.
Pragmatist
03-21-2007, 05:30 PM
Not many have the guts to call it a sin anymore (this is a good thing) but I would dare say that the vast majority of UPC churches out there would view a man who had received the Holy Ghost and was still wearing a beard as a "problem" and would breathe a collective sigh of relief when he finally shaved it off. Of course this would be followed with the appropriate mass conditioning response of dozens of "Brother you look so much better now".
Until a man wearing a nicely kept beard is viewed no differently as a man with a nice tie then the beard will still bear its "well... it's not a sin but..... are you sure you don't want to shave that thing off" badge of dishonor.
So true.
Drama Queen
03-21-2007, 05:37 PM
I am against Women growing Beards.
Ever.
Oh man.... do I have to shave now? I was working on a great goatee! :nah
SoCaliUPC
03-21-2007, 06:06 PM
Duh.......where have you been? I think they do think it's salvational.
HAHA!!! Sherri, believe me...the statement was more TIC. I belong (happily) to a UPC church. However, I have always thought it was the most STUPID idea ever to think a beard had anything to do with salvation or doctrine...however, I know many will equate it...unfortunately. Saying that, I also know that not everyone thinks that....but obviously the man in question in this post sees it as such to have to "explain" the beard to all UPC people he came into contact with. Amazing he would not tell EVERYONE.....
Buffy
03-21-2007, 09:52 PM
HAHA!!! Sherri, believe me...the statement was more TIC. I belong (happily) to a UPC church. However, I have always thought it was the most STUPID idea ever to think a beard had anything to do with salvation or doctrine...however, I know many will equate it...unfortunately. Saying that, I also know that not everyone thinks that....but obviously the man in question in this post sees it as such to have to "explain" the beard to all UPC people he came into contact with. Amazing he would not tell EVERYONE.....
He does tell almost everyone, because he has never had a beard before. So people comment about it. But, it is very irritating to see the UPC people turn their nose up. My mom tells him not to "hunt them down" and tell them, let them think what they will. Most UPC people think it's wrong whether it is for Messiah or not.
Chewy
03-21-2007, 10:05 PM
He does tell almost everyone, because he has never had a beard before. So people comment about it. But, it is very irritating to see the UPC people turn their nose up. My mom tells him not to "hunt them down" and tell them, let them think what they will. Most UPC people think it's wrong whether it is for Messiah or not.
Snotty attitudes!
On their legs?
Why is shaving legs wrong for women
but
not shaving faces is wrong for men?
Personally I don't have a probelm with facial hair on men, I find no scripture agains't it.I prefer not to have it ,but as long as a brother keeps it trim and neat I have no probelm with it.
Facial hair is something I wouldn't promote or prohibit either.
Facial hair is not just a UPC "sin."
Our ALJC pastor said in a Sunday night sermon, "The Bible says that a man is supposed to be clean shaven."
freeatlast
03-23-2007, 09:29 PM
Facial hair is not just a UPC "sin."
Our ALJC pastor said in a Sunday night sermon, "The Bible says that a man is supposed to be clean shaven."
That's just hair-esy :grampa
stmatthew
03-23-2007, 09:47 PM
Facial hair is not just a UPC "sin."
Our ALJC pastor said in a Sunday night sermon, "The Bible says that a man is supposed to be clean shaven."
Actually, you are painting the entire org in a light that is not true. While there are many that preach against facial hair, there are also many that do not. This is not an organizational thing. I am sure it was back in the day. But not any longer.
slave4him
03-23-2007, 09:57 PM
The Beard goes back further than the Hippie days. It started when people were trying not to associate themselves with communism. Karl Marks was known for his long beard and many communist leaders followed suite including Fidel Castro and others. This is how many churches adobted this discipline following suite with American leaders at the time.
Being clean shaven as a sign of uniformity goes way back. Napoleon Bonoparte made it mandatory for French soldiers to be clean shaven.
stmatthew
03-23-2007, 09:59 PM
The Beard goes back further than the Hippie days. It started when people were trying not to associate themselves with communism. Karl Marks was known for his long beard and many communist leaders followed suite including Fidel Castro and others. This is how many churches adobted this discipline following suite with American leaders at the time.
Being clean shaven as a sign of uniformity goes way back. Napoleon Bonoparte made it mandatory for French soldiers to be clean shaven.
Now I can relate to this! :tiphat
slave4him
03-23-2007, 10:22 PM
Now I can relate to this! :tiphat
lol
Steve Epley
03-23-2007, 10:25 PM
Facial hair is not just a UPC "sin."
Our ALJC pastor said in a Sunday night sermon, "The Bible says that a man is supposed to be clean shaven."
That man knew his Bible "The Lord shaved with a razor" in a non-judgmental way.:friend :friend
berkeley
03-24-2007, 12:41 AM
That's just hair-esy :grampahair say (hear say)
The Beard goes back further than the Hippie days. It started when people were trying not to associate themselves with communism. Karl Marks was known for his long beard and many communist leaders followed suite including Fidel Castro and others. This is how many churches adobted this discipline following suite with American leaders at the time.
Being clean shaven as a sign of uniformity goes way back. Napoleon Bonoparte made it mandatory for French soldiers to be clean shaven.
OK .. Aaron the High Priest was a Marxist???
berkeley
03-24-2007, 12:58 AM
OK .. Aaron the High Priest was a Marxist???
Paul.. Jesus... the rest of the Apostles...
Paul.. Jesus... the rest of the Apostles...
Throw in the rest of the OT crowd ... maybe even some of the ladies.
berkeley
03-24-2007, 01:00 AM
Throw in the rest of the OT crowd ... maybe even some of the ladies.
ahh.. the Russian Jews
ahh.. the Russian Jews
LOL ... Hava Nagila
berkeley
03-24-2007, 01:02 AM
LOL ... Hava Nagila
:happydance
How does one even have the audacity to formulate a doctrine that is so anti-bible????
berkeley
03-24-2007, 01:06 AM
How does one even have the audacity to formulate a doctrine that is so anti-bible????
Now you see, when the pastor is wrong and you follow him -God honors that! (TIC)
Anyway, everything is just handed down....
like the story of la Llorona!
Now you see, when the pastor is wrong and you follow him -God honors that! (TIC)
Anyway, everything is just handed down....
like the story of la Llorona!
Maybe we should start believing in the Boogie Man and Big Foot too?
Both have beards ... though ... I think.
berkeley
03-24-2007, 01:16 AM
Maybe we should start believing in the Boogie Man and Big Foot too?
Both have beards ... though ... I think.Never heard about the Boogie Man or Big Foot.. have you heard of El Cucuy?? or the Chupacabras??
ok, well, I'm out.. nite
Never heard about the Boogie Man or Big Foot.. have you heard of El Cucuy?? or the Chupacabras??
ok, well, I'm out.. nite
El Cucuy is the Boogie Man ... or are they cousins???
Digging4Truth
03-24-2007, 08:55 AM
The Beard goes back further than the Hippie days. It started when people were trying not to associate themselves with communism. Karl Marks was known for his long beard and many communist leaders followed suite including Fidel Castro and others. This is how many churches adobted this discipline following suite with American leaders at the time.
Being clean shaven as a sign of uniformity goes way back. Napoleon Bonoparte made it mandatory for French soldiers to be clean shaven.
Whew that was a close one...
Imagine if Marx, Castro & the gang had dressed modestly and had wives who wore long hair & dresses and other people started dressing like them.
Then it would have become a rule that no one could dress modestly.
ThePastorsCoach
03-24-2007, 01:33 PM
SOMEBODY has a MUSTACHE on this APOSTOLIC FORUM but it AIN'T ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hallelujah - I saw the light - I mean the RAZOR and I don't want to be doomed to the bad place on a technicality such as facial hair!
I am not saying WHO has a MUSTACHE on here - BUT I SHAVED and I AM LEGAL NOW! GLORY BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ChTatum
03-24-2007, 08:47 PM
The Beard goes back further than the Hippie days. It started when people were trying not to associate themselves with communism. Karl Marks was known for his long beard and many communist leaders followed suite including Fidel Castro and others. This is how many churches adobted this discipline following suite with American leaders at the time.
Being clean shaven as a sign of uniformity goes way back. Napoleon Bonoparte made it mandatory for French soldiers to be clean shaven.
Yeah well, I ain't french.
What does following a suite (group of rooms) have to do with facial hair?
If ignorance is bliss, you oughta be dancing.....
slave4him
03-24-2007, 09:00 PM
Yeah well, I ain't french.
What does following a suite (group of rooms) have to do with facial hair?
If ignorance is bliss, you oughta be dancing.....
First of all I am not saying it is wrong to have a beard. I am simply giving information on the standards history. As far as my opinion on it if you are going to a church you better be sure you are in that church because you have been led their by the spirit and not because you think its the right church. Second If a person goes to the church God has led them to and the pastor sets a standard for men to be clean shaven then you disobey then you are in rebellion and that my friend is a sin. Why is it ok for UPS, some major airlines, US Military to have requirements for beards but if a man of God feels the need then he gets attacked and labeled as a radical.
slave4him
03-24-2007, 09:02 PM
What does following a suite (group of rooms) have to do with facial hair?
I am sorry for the wrong spelling.
ChTatum
03-24-2007, 09:04 PM
First of all I am not saying it is wrong to have a beard. I am simply giving information on the standards history. As far as my opinion on it if you are going to a church you better be sure you are in that church because you have been led their by the spirit and not because you think its the right church. Second If a person goes to the church God has led them to and the pastor sets a standard for men to be clean shaven then you disobey then you are in rebellion and that my friend is a sin. Why is it ok for UPS, some major airlines, US Military to have requirements for beards but if a man of God feels the need then he gets attacked and labeled as a radical.
Are major airlines, UPS, the military teaching salvation? Most pastors who teach against beards will then bring into play "obey them that have the rule over you"....
BTW, I pastor.
Again, BTW, the ones you listed do not have requirements for beards, but against.
Please.....
RevDWW
03-24-2007, 09:11 PM
I could be mistaken, but I don't think the by-laws of the UPC say anything yeah or nah against facial hair.
freeatlast
03-24-2007, 09:14 PM
I could be mistaken, but I don't think the by-laws of the UPC say anything yeah or nah against facial hair.
No , it's in our pentecostal talmud..our collection of oral laws
RevDWW
03-24-2007, 09:16 PM
No , it's in our pentecostal talmud..our collection of oral laws
I'd love to grow one, but just because I hate to shave...........:grampa
freeatlast
03-24-2007, 09:20 PM
I'd love to grow one, but just because I hate to shave...........:grampa
Should be interesting, as I am going to a district function next month.
We'll see what the UPC thinks of it I guess.
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 10:22 AM
I went last night to see my dad with a beard for the first time in my life and what a fine Pharisee he made - Lil!
The drama was The Messiah and it was absolutely WONDERFUL!
I throughly enjoyed it and I usually don't enjoy these type things, but it was put together so well and of course we heard "The Alabaster Box" - great song!
Great job Buffy and all! BTW, I think your hubby should keep his beard - he looks great!!!!
I'd love to grow one, but just because I hate to shave...........:grampa
I've started to grow one ... it's been a month now ... too bad, Dan ... you're not allowed to wear one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:slaphappy:slaphappy
Newman
04-07-2007, 11:02 AM
No , it's in our pentecostal talmud..our collection of oral laws
Never heard it referred that way before. Excellent point. I suppose that is where the women not wearing pants is also found. ;)
Pressing-On
04-07-2007, 11:10 AM
Not only did the men wear beards, but for our church Easter drama the women also wore makeup. Some of those plain-faced denim whales looked quite attractive dressed in ancient robes, jewelry and modern mascara!
:slaphappy :slaphappy
PM incoming!!!! I'm such a detective!!! :toofunny :toofunny
Pressing-On
04-07-2007, 11:23 AM
I went last night to see my dad with a beard for the first time in my life and what a fine Pharisee he made - Lil!
The drama was The Messiah and it was absolutely WONDERFUL!
I throughly enjoyed it and I usually don't enjoy these type things, but it was put together so well and of course we heard "The Alabaster Box" - great song!
Great job Buffy and all! BTW, I think your hubby should keep his beard - he looks great!!!!
My husband grew a beard once. Actually, it only takes him a week to have a full beard - that's why I believe in evolution! :toofunny
Anyway, he looks like an Illegal alien and with the Border Patrol cruising around here, he thought he had better shave. :toofunny
AND MY SON BETTER BE GETTING A HAIRCUT TODAY!!!!!!!
I know that in Bible times a lot of people had a beard.
I never like beards myself even before I came to Church so this predates "convictions" but I hate shaving too! LOL!
I think (personally in my own view) that clean shaven is preferred.
I don't have anything against those who grow beards.
It is a personal preference.
Carpenter
04-07-2007, 11:31 AM
PM incoming!!!! I'm such a detective!!! :toofunny :toofunny
:slaphappy :slaphappy
You only wish...no discrepancy here. :D
On another note, we went to a large Baptist church last night to watch the passion play of Denver, and but for a few scenes, it was a sleeper. Jesus, however was great. It is too bad UPC churches make Jesus wear that long robe throughout, it takes away from the realism...
I don't get it, they allow beards and makeup but they make Jesus wear those Ebenezer Scrooge pajamas.
The Easter Drama at the big UPC here in Denver is the best I have ever seen (despite the robe...)! Now I can appreciate all the yelling during rehersals. :D
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 11:34 AM
:slaphappy :slaphappy
You only wish...no discrepancy here. :D
On another note, we went to a large Baptist church last night to watch the passion play of Denver, and but for a few scenes, it was a sleeper. Jesus, however was great. It is too bad UPC churches make Jesus wear that long robe throughout, it takes away from the realism...
I don't get it, they allow beards and makeup but they make Jesus wear those Ebenezer Scrooge pajamas.
The Easter Drama at the big UPC here in Denver is the best I have ever seen (despite the robe...)! Now I can appreciate all the yelling during rehersals. :D
The Jesus in the drama I saw last night was awesome - very real and even personable....so much so, that when he was walking down the aisle he shook my hand and told me he was glad I was there last night!!!!!
He quoted scripture like a champ and talked in a normal voice and was even funny at times.
The funniest part of the drama was there were some southern accents for sure.....it was great though!
The Jesus in the drama I saw last night was awesome - very real and even personable....so much so, that when he was walking down the aisle he shook my hand and told me he was glad I was there last night!!!!!
He quoted scripture like a champ and talked in a normal voice and was even funny at times.
The funniest part of the drama was they were some southern accents for sure.....it was great though!
Was this the one at Anthony Mangun's?
Pressing-On
04-07-2007, 11:37 AM
The Jesus in the drama I saw last night was awesome - very real and even personable....so much so, that when he was walking down the aisle he shook my hand and told me he was glad I was there last night!!!!!
He quoted scripture like a champ and talked in a normal voice and was even funny at times.
The funniest part of the drama was they were some southern accents for sure.....it was great though!
Last year my daughter attended an Easter drama with a friend at a very large Charismatic church around here.
Jesus had a "pink" heart on his cheek. Don't know what that was about.
She got up and left!
:toofunny
Carpenter
04-07-2007, 11:39 AM
Last year my daughter attended an Easter drama with a friend at a very large Charismatic church around here.
Jesus had a "pink" heart on his cheek. Don't know what that was about.
She got up and left!
:toofunny
Maybe it was a birthmark.
Or maybe his baby daughter put a sticker there and he forgot about it. I've done that before, you ought to have seen the funny looks the guys at the hardware store were giving me. "Here Daddy, here is a pink heart sticker..." :D
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 11:40 AM
Was this the one at Anthony Mangun's?
No, in Arkansas.
Carpenter
04-07-2007, 11:41 AM
No, in Arkansas.
I bet Peter and John were wearing those competitive bass fishing shirts too...
GITTER DUUUN !!
:slaphappy
No, in Arkansas.
Arkansas is a big State!:D
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 11:57 AM
I bet Peter and John were wearing those competitive bass fishing shirts too...
GITTER DUUUN !!
:slaphappy
lol.....nope they did wear the dresses, oh I mean robes, but I did giggle a couple of times when they sounded soooo southern.
Ron, it's in Jonesboro.
Pressing-On
04-07-2007, 11:59 AM
Maybe it was a birthmark.
Or maybe his baby daughter put a sticker there and he forgot about it. I've done that before, you ought to have seen the funny looks the guys at the hardware store were giving me. "Here Daddy, here is a pink heart sticker..." :D
Uh, no, sorry, no cigar. It was painted on for the drama.
lol.....nope they did wear the dresses, oh I mean robes, but I did giggle a couple of times when they sounded soooo southern.
Ron, it's in Jonesboro.
Sounds like it was a lot of fun.
I have played Jesus and Judas in plays.
Judas was easier (waiting for the wisecracks lol) than Jesus.
How do you play one who is perfect?
Yeah, Yeah, some say I played Judas too well!:winkgrin
Pressing-On
04-07-2007, 12:04 PM
Sounds like it was a lot of fun.
I have played Jesus and Judas in plays.
Judas was easier (waiting for the wisecracks lol) than Jesus.
How do you play one who is perfect?
Yeah, Yeah, some say I played Judas too well!:winkgrin
I thought there was a resemblance in your avatar! :D
I thought there was a resemblance in your avatar! :D
Was it the big nose, shifty eyes, or the sly grin?:D
mfblume
04-07-2007, 12:10 PM
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
I have a beard, and have always considered how there was nothing wrong with it all the while I was in the UPC. But there was always an unwritten rule that men should not wear one, so I abode by the rule for the sake of unity while I remained a upc minister.
Anyway, after I left the UPC I wore one and still have it. Nothing in the bible states it is wrong. In fact, the bible teaches men how to wear their beards giving obvious implication they were expected to have worn them. David's men had half their beards shaved off by the enemy, and he commanded them to remain outside their home until their beards grew back and they lost their shame for it.
These early church writings indicate lack of beards was considered a shame.
I think it is fine to wear or not wear one. But these words indictae those who think it is wrong are simply offkey.
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Judaism
The Jews thought it ignominious to lose their beards (Bible: 2 Samuels ch. 10, verse 4).Leviticus 19:27 states that "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard." Talmudic rabbis understood this to mean only that one should not shave their beard with a razor with a single blade. Because scissors have two blades, rabbinic law permits their use to trim the beard. For this reason, many Jews also use electric razors, which may have two or more blades. Despite this apparent leniency, Torah Law also prohibits cutting the beard close to the skin with a scissor, only that if someone shaves with a scissor he is exempt from punishment (Rambam's Mishne Torah, Laws of Idolatry, 12:mailbox:///C%7C/Documents%20and%20Settings/Compaq_Owner/Application%20Data/Thunderbird/Profiles/y94xduh6.default/Mail/Local%20Folders/Sent?number=561&part=1.2&filename=icon_cool.gif. The minimum length of the beard is devired from Laws of Nazirites, where it states that "ke'en ta'ar" is as long as one can fold the hairs from tip to root. Other later codifiers disagree with Maimonides on this matter; however, the lenient view that scissors down to the bare skin are permitted has no basis in any of the Tannaitic and Amoraitic writings.
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Christianity
In Eastern Christianity, beards are often worn by members of the priesthood, and at times have been required for all believers - see Old Believers. Amish and Hutterite men shave until they are married, then grow a beard and are never thereafter without one, although it is a particular form of a beard (see Visual markers of marital status).
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Early Christian attitudes
St Clement of Alexandria
"The hair of the chin showed him to be a man." St Clement of Alexandria (c.195, E), 2.271
"How womanly it is for one who is a man to comb himself and shave himself with a razor, for the sake of fine effect, and to arrange his hair at the mirror, shave his cheeks, pluck hairs out of them, and smooth them!…For God wished women to be smooth and to rejoice in their locks alone growing spontaneously, as a horse in his mane. But He adorned man like the lions, with a beard, and endowed him as an attribute of manhood, with a hairy chest--a sign of strength and rule." St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.275
"This, then, is the mark of the man, the beard. By this, he is seen to be a man. It is older than Eve. It is the token of the superior nature….It is therefore unholy to desecrate the symbol of manhood, hairiness.” St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.276
"It is not lawful to pluck out the beard, man’s natural and noble adornment." St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.277
St Cyprian
"In their manners, there was no discipline. In men, their beards were defaced." St Cyprian (c. 250, W), 5.438
"The beard must not be plucked. 'You will not deface the figure of your beard'." [Lev 19:32] St. Cyprian, 5.553
Lactantius
"The nature of the beard contributes in an incredible degree to distinguish the maturity of bodies, or to distinguish the sex, or to contribute to the beauty of manliness and strength." Lactantius (c. 304-314, W), 7.288
Apostolic Constitutions
"Men may not destroy the hair of their beards and unnaturally change the form of a man. For the Law says, “You will not deface your beards.” For God the Creator has made this decent for women, but has determined that it is unsuitable for men." Apostolic Constitutions (compiled c.390, E) 7.392. (1)
mfblume
04-07-2007, 12:11 PM
Uh, no, sorry, no cigar. It was painted on for the drama.
Sounds like an indication to drive home a point when Judas kissed his cheek and betrayed Hiim.
Pressing-On
04-07-2007, 12:16 PM
Sounds like an indication to drive home a point when Judas kissed his cheek and betrayed Hiim.
O.K., maybe. I wasn't there. I couldn't see my husband going for that one, if asked to play the part, regardless of what they wanted it to convey. :toofunny
Pressing-On
04-07-2007, 12:18 PM
Was it the big nose, shifty eyes, or the sly grin?:D
All of zee above, Monsieur! :tiphat
Mike Williamson
04-07-2007, 12:27 PM
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
Sounds to me like a lot of people need to get a clue...I can't imagine mistreating or ignoring a brother because he has a beard...
I wonder if these same people turn their nose up at Jesus, who also had a beard...
King's Child
04-07-2007, 01:02 PM
Sounds to me like a lot of people need to get a clue...I can't imagine mistreating or ignoring a brother because he has a beard...
I wonder if these same people turn their nose up at Jesus, who also had a beard...
Did Jesus have a beard? I know the Bible states that they plucked his beard but was it a long beard or was it just a few short hairs because he hadn't shaved?
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 01:06 PM
Did Jesus have a beard? I know the Bible states that they plucked his beard but was it a long beard or was it just a few short hairs because he hadn't shaved?
lol....tried to pluck someone's 5 o'clock shadow out with your hands?
Pragmatist
04-07-2007, 01:08 PM
Did Jesus have a beard? I know the Bible states that they plucked his beard but was it a long beard or was it just a few short hairs because he hadn't shaved?
It'd be pretty hard to pluck a few short hairs he hadn't shaved.
Did Jesus have a beard? I know the Bible states that they plucked his beard but was it a long beard or was it just a few short hairs because he hadn't shaved?
Ever see the video "The Greatest Story Ever Told" with the actor Max Von Sydow playing Jesus?
This was the closest I have seen too what Jesus may have looked or even acted like.
He had short hair, and a short beard.
berkeley
04-07-2007, 01:12 PM
Did Jesus have a beard? I know the Bible states that they plucked his beard but was it a long beard or was it just a few short hairs because he hadn't shaved?
To explain this away, some will say that Jesus grew a beard while waiting for stand before Pilate. :ignore
StillStanding
04-07-2007, 01:12 PM
Did Jesus have a beard? I know the Bible states that they plucked his beard but was it a long beard or was it just a few short hairs because he hadn't shaved?
It's very hard to pluck a shadow beard! :)
Buffy
04-07-2007, 01:19 PM
I went last night to see my dad with a beard for the first time in my life and what a fine Pharisee he made - Lil!
The drama was The Messiah and it was absolutely WONDERFUL!
I throughly enjoyed it and I usually don't enjoy these type things, but it was put together so well and of course we heard "The Alabaster Box" - great song!
Great job Buffy and all! BTW, I think your hubby should keep his beard - he looks great!!!!
I was so glad you came! We are expecting a big crowd tonight. I think your dad and my husband look pretty good! My hubbys says the beard is coming off Monday!
Buffy
04-07-2007, 01:22 PM
The Jesus in the drama I saw last night was awesome - very real and even personable....so much so, that when he was walking down the aisle he shook my hand and told me he was glad I was there last night!!!!!
He quoted scripture like a champ and talked in a normal voice and was even funny at times.
The funniest part of the drama was there were some southern accents for sure.....it was great though!
My husband is definitely from Southern Jerusalem!:winkgrin
Praxeas
04-07-2007, 01:26 PM
I was so glad you came! We are expecting a big crowd tonight. I think your dad and my husband look pretty good! My hubbys says the beard is coming off Monday!
Take him out to eat first...fish maybe? Take away his napkins and utensils
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 01:29 PM
My husband is definitely from Southern Jerusalem!:winkgrin
I thought it made it all the more real - because the disciples were just real men......(well except for a couple of those little short ones - lol)!!!!
Daddy said he was "playing" mean......he's just not got it in him to be mean.
Buffy
04-07-2007, 01:33 PM
I thought it made it all the more real - because the disciples were just real men......(well except for a couple of those little short ones - lol)!!!!
Daddy said he was "playing" mean......he's just not got it in him to be mean.
I thought my 12 yr. old son looked pretty good with a painted on beard!!! NOT!:slaphappy
Buffy
04-07-2007, 01:34 PM
Take him out to eat first...fish maybe? Take away his napkins and utensils
:slaphappy
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 01:35 PM
:slaphappy
....and have some berries for dessert!
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 02:03 PM
Here's the sweetest Pharisee you'll ever meet and his sweet wife!
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/Dad-Net.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/DSC00138.jpg
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 02:04 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/DSC00137.jpg
A closer look at his beard and my sister-in-law getting a hug!
Buffy
04-07-2007, 02:16 PM
Those are great! I can't help think that Annette would kill you for posting them with her red cheeks!:winkgrin
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 02:20 PM
Those are great! I can't help think that Annette would kill you for posting them with her red cheeks!:winkgrin
Don't tell her....lol!
becky123abc
04-07-2007, 02:31 PM
How sweet! Love the pics! Your parents are a very handsome couple. Beautiful smiles!
Nice scenery too...someone worked very hard!
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 02:33 PM
How sweet! Love the pics! Your parents are a very handsome couple. Beautiful smiles!
Nice scenery too...someone worked very hard!
It was very nice!! Very classy!
It's my dad and his second wife - my mom passed away a couple years ago. He's so happy and I'm happy for them!!
It was very nice!! Very classy!
It's my dad and his second wife - my mom passed away a couple years ago. He's so happy and I'm happy for them!!
I'm looking forward ... to my Mom ... hopefully remarrying one day ... my siblings aren't to keen about that prospect ... but I'm w/ you if it makes her happy ... I'm happy to..
Here's the sweetest Pharisee you'll ever meet and his sweet wife!
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/Dad-Net.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/DSC00138.jpg
Those are neeat pics Renda.
You have an awesome heritage & it looks like they put on a great Easter play.
Was he Caiphas?
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 02:40 PM
I'm looking forward ... to my Mom ... hopefully remarrying one day ... my siblings aren't to keen about that prospect ... but I'm w/ you if it makes her happy ... I'm happy to..
Absolutely! It doesn't take a thing away from my mom (your dad) if they can find someone to share the rest of their lives with.
They are so happy!
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 02:41 PM
Those are neeat pics Renda.
You have an awesome heritage & it looks like they put on a great Easter play.
Was he Caiphas?
Not sure there were four Pharisees - one of them was really funny. Almost reminded me of Jimmy Durante.
Absolutely! It doesn't take a thing away from my mom (your dad) if they can find someone to share the rest of their lives with.
They are so happy!
God said it's not good to be alone ... :grampa
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 02:42 PM
God said it's not good to be alone ... :grampa
True.
StillStanding
04-07-2007, 02:43 PM
Absolutely! It doesn't take a thing away from my mom (your dad) if they can find someone to share the rest of their lives with.
They are so happy!
I wish my mother could find someone to make her happy, but I doubt it will ever happen!
Not sure there were four Pharisees - one of them was really funny. Almost reminded me of Jimmy Durante.
Jimmy Durante?
Hey, what's one Pharisse to another!:winkgrin
I wish my mother could find someone to make her happy, but I doubt it will ever happen!
Never say never ... although ... I can't imagine spending a lifetime w/ someone and then having to start all over ... NOT EASY.
StillStanding
04-07-2007, 02:47 PM
Never say never ... although ... I can't imagine spending a lifetime w/ someone and then having to start all over ... NOT EASY.Mom has become increasingly reclusive since my father's death. She recently agreed to move into an independant living condo, where hopefully she will meet lots of friends! :)
Mom has become increasingly reclusive since my father's death. She recently agreed to move into an independant living condo, where hopefully she will meet lots of friends! :)
My mom has a beautiful condo in Sunny Isles ... Miami ... and was there for about two months .....she HATED IT .... she's now about to close on a 4 br house in Wilmington, NC ... about a block and 1/2 from my sister ....
I think she's LOST IT!!!!!!!!
I think the hardest part for them... Pianoman.... is trying to fill that incredibly large hole ... only our God can fill it .... JMO
StillStanding
04-07-2007, 02:55 PM
My mom has a beautiful condo in Sunny Isles ... Miami ... and was there for about two months .....she HATED IT .... she's now about to close on 4 br house in Wilmington, NC ... about a block and 1/2 from my sister ....
I think she's LOST IT!!!!!!!!
I don't want to heat that!!! :grampa
My mom has been taking turns living in a bedroom of one of us kid's homes. For the past year, she has been living with my brother's family, and I think things are starting to not go well there!
She's a sweet as she can be, and my SIL is as sweet as she can be, but when someone is staying with you it's hard to be yourself. It's ackward to fuss when you have company! I think my SIL is at the end of her rope!
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 02:56 PM
I think the hardest part for them... Pianoman.... is trying to fill that incredibly large hole ... only our God can fill it .... JMO
My dad's wife was single for 13 years, finished getting her degree and thought she was fine - wasn't looking for a husband. Then my dad became widowed and it didn't take him long to find her - - a good lady to compliment his life and fill his loss.
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 02:57 PM
I don't want to heat that!!! :grampa
My mom has been taking turns living in a bedroom of one of us kid's homes. For the past year, she has been living with my brother's family, and I think things are starting to not go well there!
She's a sweet as she can be, and my SIL is as sweet as she can be, but when someone is staying with you it's hard to be yourself. It's ackward to fuss when you have company! I think my SIL is at the end of her rope!
Your mom needs her own space and I KNOW your SIL does!
I don't want to heat that!!! :grampa
My mom has been taking turns living in a bedroom of one of us kid's homes. For the past year, she has been living with my brother's family, and I think things are starting to not go well there!
She's a sweet as she can be, and my SIL is as sweet as she can be, but when someone is staying with you it's hard to be yourself. It's ackward to fuss when you have company! I think my SIL is at the end of her rope!
Mom has been visiting us too ... in the last year and half ... she's hopped from NY, NC, FL and will be paying me [TX] a visit in the next couple of months ... it's part of the reality ... but like you I'm praying that our Moms can find a niche to call home .... I think it will be NC for her.
My dad's wife was single for 13 years, finished getting her degree and thought she was fine - wasn't looking for a husband. Then my dad became widowed and it didn't take him long to find her - - a good lady to compliment his life and fill his loss.
He caught himself a good one ..... :happydance:happydance:happydance
StillStanding
04-07-2007, 03:03 PM
Your mom needs her own space and I KNOW your SIL does!
We've been begging mom to get her own place for some time now. I think she's starting to get a clear picture as to why! :)
Even the sweetest of people can overstay their welcome. KWIM?
My SIL is one of the sweetest people (and funny too!) on the face of the earth! If you knew the health of my mother, and how hard it is to take her places like shopping, church, doctors, etc, you would be amazed at my SIL's durability! :)
We've been begging mom to get her own place for some time now. I think she's starting to get a clear picture as to why! :)
Even the sweetest of people can overstay their welcome. KWIM?
My SIL is one of the sweetest people (and funny too!) on the face of the earth! If you knew the health of my mother, and how hard it is to take her places like shopping, church, doctors, etc, you would be amazed at my SIL's durability! :)
It takes a special person to do what your SIL has ... I agree ... it's harder when it's an in law .... to take on that type of commitment ... especially if she has a family of her own.
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 03:09 PM
He caught himself a good one ..... :happydance:happydance:happydance
He has and she's so sweet too - tells me that she's praying that I can find someone like she has.
freeatlast
04-07-2007, 03:10 PM
I'm sorry...I was looking for the beards for easter thread.
;-)
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 03:11 PM
I'm sorry...I was looking for the beards for easter thread.
;-)
lol....too funny how these threads can go!
Check back about 5-6 pages!
IAintMovin
04-07-2007, 03:12 PM
I saw the title of this thread.... no I have not read any of it yet.... and saw that Renda posted last....said to myself.... NOOOOOOOOOO Renda you do not have to grow a beard for Easter........ :D :D :D :D :D
:happydance :happydance :happydance :happydance :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 03:13 PM
I saw the title of this thread.... no I have not read any of it yet.... and saw that Renda posted last....said to myself.... NOOOOOOOOOO Renda you do not have to grow a beard for Easter........ :D :D :D :D :D
:happydance :happydance :happydance :happydance :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy
Whew, what a relief! Wait are you saying I already have a beard?
So, I can just dye my hair, oh I mean Easter eggs?
IAintMovin
04-07-2007, 03:14 PM
:neener :neener :neener Whew, what a relief! So, I can just dye my hair, oh I mean Easter eggs?
freeatlast
04-07-2007, 03:17 PM
lol....too funny how these threads can go!
Check back about 5-6 pages!
OIC :grampa
Thanx renda...and I got a great beard growing in good for about a month.
Not for Easter though...just because I can.
OIC :grampa
Thanx renda...and I got a great beard growing in good for about a month.
Not for Easter though...just because I can.
I started mine a month ago too ... for the same reason
CUZ I CAN.
BoredOutOfMyMind
04-07-2007, 03:19 PM
I saw the title of this thread.... no I have not read any of it yet.... and saw that Renda posted last....said to myself.... NOOOOOOOOOO Renda you do not have to grow a beard for Easter........ :D :D :D :D :D
:happydance :happydance :happydance :happydance :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy
See Post #79.
freeatlast
04-07-2007, 03:21 PM
I started mine a month ago too ... for the same reason
CUZ I CAN.
Yeah, that and CUZ Epley sez I can't. :tiphat
Yeah, that and CUZ Epley sez I can't. :tiphat
Who care what EPLEY SAYS??????????????????? :slaphappy
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 03:26 PM
Why grow a beard now - wouldn't in the fall be more appropriate?
freeatlast
04-07-2007, 03:43 PM
Why grow a beard now - wouldn't in the fall be more appropriate?
Well it was a pretty hot climate where Jesus lived and all the Children of Abraham also and they all wore beards..don't think they shaved them off in the summer.
Although I might, as I've never had one in the summer before.
I usta believe the preacher when he said that the bible siad, " We must be clean shaven", then I found out the man was either lying or ignorant.
Not sure which, proabably both.
:grampa
COOPER
04-07-2007, 03:43 PM
Why grow a beard now - wouldn't in the fall be more appropriate?
:grampa let them whiskers free!
Even when I was very conservative and totally UPC, I never believed beards on men were wrong.
freeatlast
04-07-2007, 03:54 PM
Even when I was very conservative and totally UPC, I never believed beards on men were wrong.
You was smarter than the average cat ILG :grampa
You was smarter than the average cat ILG :grampa
Meow. :kittyhug
Coonskinner
04-07-2007, 03:58 PM
I remember ILG from those days.
I always thought she seemed very intelligent.
Bookish, I would have said.
I didn't know her well, that was just my opinion from observing her a few times.
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 03:58 PM
Well, I must say that Jesus last night looked pretty good with his beard!
He had beautiful eyes!
Well, I must say that Jesus last night looked pretty good with his beard!
He had beautiful eyes!
Just a wee bit ... SACRILEGIOUS. :igotit
I remember ILG from those days.
I always thought she seemed very intelligent.
Bookish, I would have said.
I didn't know her well, that was just my opinion from observing her a few times.
Ah yes. That was many moons ago. I was pretty bookish, spent hours upon hours reading my Bible and PPH books.
Your wife and I would be up at the youth revivals just a whooping it up in worship at the front. That was before you and her got married and all.
Well, I must say that Jesus last night looked pretty good with his beard!
He had beautiful eyes!
Well, was he single? The actor I mean?:winkgrin
Ah yes. That was many moons ago. I was pretty bookish, spent hours upon hours reading my Bible and PPH books.
Your wife and I would be up at the youth revivals just a whooping it up in worship at the front. That was before you and her got married and all.
I too have heard of the harmful effects PPH books can have on one's exterior ...
Well, I must say that Jesus last night looked pretty good with his beard!
He had beautiful eyes!
YOu saw Jesus???:faint
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 04:04 PM
YOu saw Jesus???:faint
He shook my hand and told me he was glad I was there!!!!!
I too have heard of the harmful effects PPH books can have on one's exterior ...
LOL!:slaphappy
He shook my hand and told me he was glad I was there!!!!!
Wow! Where is He going to be next??? Are you going to wash your hand?
Coonskinner
04-07-2007, 04:06 PM
Ah yes. That was many moons ago. I was pretty bookish, spent hours upon hours reading my Bible and PPH books.
Your wife and I would be up at the youth revivals just a whooping it up in worship at the front. That was before you and her got married and all.
She is still whooping it up up front during youth services, on Sunday mornings, Wednesday night bible studies, Sunday nights, revivals, conferences, camp meeting, youth camp, etc.:)
She is bad about jumping up from the organ bench and having Holy Ghost fits on a fairly regular basis.:)
Are you still shouting, ILG?
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 04:06 PM
Wow! Where is He going to be next??? Are you going to wash your hand?
Well, later the adulteress woman asked me if I'd seen Jesus and I had to tell her I had, but I was afraid to tell her how good looking he was.
I did wash my hands......maybe I shouldn't have?
Note to self: Next Easter drama do not sit on the aisle seat.
She is still whooping it up up front during youth services, on Sunday mornings, Wednesday night bible studies, Sunday nights, revivals, conferences, camp meeting, youth camp, etc.:)
She is bad about jumping up from the organ bench and having Holy Ghost fits on a fairly regular basis.:)
Are you still shouting, ILG?
Lady CS ... SHOCKAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOING .... COOL.
Coonskinner
04-07-2007, 04:10 PM
When we took the pastorate where we have been for ten years, the worship was what you would call...sedate.:)
Within three months, there was a radical shift, and I don't think I ever preached on praise and worship for the first year I was here.
Sarilda is one of those people whose worship is contagious.
When she gets started shouting, everybody wants to get in on it.
She pretty much single-handedly changed the entire worship culture of our church without trying to.
She was just being herself.
She is still whooping it up up front during youth services, on Sunday mornings, Wednesday night bible studies, Sunday nights, revivals, conferences, camp meeting, youth camp, etc.:)
She is bad about jumping up from the organ bench and having Holy Ghost fits on a fairly regular basis.:)
Are you still shouting, ILG?
I pray in tongues more than I shout. But I did shout last month, but not at church. Why? Will that be a spiritual guage for you?
I remember your wife disappearing from plain site and then showing up at campmeeting a long time later and introducing you to me. She said this is my husband and I said "Glad to meet you!" and you said "What a disappointment huh?" And I thought "Wow!" But I knew I had just met another melancholy just like me. :slaphappy
Lady CS ... SHOCKAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOING .... COOL.
That girl gets after it!
Coonskinner
04-07-2007, 04:15 PM
I pray in tongues more than I shout. But I did shout last month, but not at church. Why? Will that be a spiritual guage for you?
I remember your wife disappearing from plain site and then showing up at campmeeting a long time later and introducing you to me. She said this is my husband and I said "Glad to meet you!" and you said "What a disappointment huh?" And I thought "Wow!" But I knew I had just met another melancholy just like me. :slaphappy
Spiritual gauge?
I don't know if I would say that.
In general, when a person who has been a fervent worshipper stops doing it, it itends to be a sign that something is wrong.
Worship is one of those vital signs, you know.
I just wondered if you had changed your philosophy about worship also. No biggie.:)
When she introduced you to me, my comment was meant to be humorous.:)
Sarilda was very popular and I had never been as a young person.
I always felt like people thought she married beneath her. I agreed with them.:)
Still do.
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 04:16 PM
Spiritual gauge?
I don't know if I would say that.
In general, when a person who has been a fervent worshipper stops doing it, it itends to be a sign that something is wrong.
Worship is one of those vital signs, you know.
I just wondered if you had changed your philosophy about worship also. No biggie.:)
When she introduced you to me, my comment was meant to be humorous.:)
Sarilda was very popular and I had never been as a young person.
I always felt like people thought she married beneath her. I agreed with them.:)
Still do.
CS!!!!!
I bet she doesn't feel that way at all.
Coonskinner
04-07-2007, 04:16 PM
That girl gets after it!
She won't like me talking about her this way.
She is still a prayier warrior too.
There are many times she travails so long and hard in prayer that her body will be sore for days.
Coonskinner
04-07-2007, 04:17 PM
CS!!!!!
I bet she doesn't feel that way at all.
She is in love, and she is kind.:)
She is a diamond and I am a flint rock.:tiphat
rgcraig
04-07-2007, 04:20 PM
She is in love, and she is kind.:)
She is a diamond and I am a flint rock.:tiphat
I would probably think she would agree to that - - lol!
Spiritual gauge?
I don't know if I would say that.
In general, when a person who has been a fervent worshipper stops doing it, it itends to be a sign that something is wrong.
Worship is one of those vital signs, you know.
I just wondered if you had changed your philosophy about worship also. No biggie.:)
The main thing I have changed about worship is that I do not feel contrained to worship to be acceptable to anybody. There once was a time that I thought it was a spiritual gauge. My pastor never taught me that, I just thought it was. Actually my pastor taught me it was NOT a spiritual gauge but more of a repsonse to God. I do not agree that fervent worshippers stopping fervent worship means something is wrong, but it might be.
When she introduced you to me, my comment was meant to be humorous.:)
You must have been smiling like you do in all of your pictures. ;)
Sarilda was very popular and I had never been as a young person.
I always felt like people thought she married beneath her. I agreed with them.:)
Still do.[/QUOTE]
She married somebody godly. That's what she wanted. :)
She won't like me talking about her this way.
She is still a prayier warrior too.
There are many times she travails so long and hard in prayer that her body will be sore for days.
I used to do that. I can't do the things I used to. I don't have the physical stamina anymore. I do miss it, but I'm glad I used my body for God when I was younger and could. I talk like an old woman, but I feel like one.
ChTatum
04-07-2007, 06:56 PM
Beards for Easter????
Thank God for resurrection power, I keep mine year 'round....
Just a Shepherd
04-07-2007, 08:47 PM
Spiritual gauge?
I don't know if I would say that.
In general, when a person who has been a fervent worshipper stops doing it, it itends to be a sign that something is wrong.
Worship is one of those vital signs, you know.
I just wondered if you had changed your philosophy about worship also. No biggie.:)
When she introduced you to me, my comment was meant to be humorous.:)
Sarilda was very popular and I had never been as a young person.
I always felt like people thought she married beneath her. I agreed with them.:)
Still do.
This may be just semantics because pentecostals use praise and worship interchangably, but for what it's worth biblical worship isn't jumping around and shouting. The biblical definitions actually describe a different posture
Worship:
Hebrew - to prostrate, humble, make to stoop
Greek - like a dog licking his master’s hand, prostrate
Not trying to start a debate but I just taught on this last week and I realized that so much of what we call "worship" is really praise. There is a big difference.
Scott Hutchinson
04-07-2007, 08:54 PM
Beards for easter I just want a choclate bunny,maybe I need a goatee,if I had one some folks in TN,would still love me ?
LadyCoonskinner
04-08-2007, 12:22 AM
She won't like me talking about her this way.
She is still a prayier warrior too.
There are many times she travails so long and hard in prayer that her body will be sore for days.
You are in trouble my dear husband.......
Need to talk to you about sharing to much info here. (I am not ashamed, just don't want anyone judging my worship in a negative way) I don't really care what people think when I worship the Lord ( don't mean that in an ugly way, just what God thinks and feels is more important to me than what others think)
You are in trouble my dear husband.......
Need to talk to you about sharing to much info here. (I am not ashamed, just don't want anyone judging my worship in a negative way) I don't really care what people think when I worship the Lord ( don't mean that in an ugly way, just what God thinks and feels is more important to me than what others think)
May I suggest this ....
http://www.coco-de-mer-shop.co.uk/images/prod_thu_3798.jpg
LadyCoonskinner
04-08-2007, 12:25 AM
May I suggest this ....
http://www.coco-de-mer-shop.co.uk/images/prod_thu_3798.jpg
Nope.... I need something bigger than that!!!!
This just might do the trick ...
http://www.spare-rods.com/Images/Paddle2.jpg
Ronzo
04-08-2007, 12:30 AM
Here's my contribution...
http://crystalman62.xtremeserver.net/images/Modeling/Baseball%20Bat_001.jpg
LadyCoonskinner
04-08-2007, 12:31 AM
This just might do the trick ...
http://www.spare-rods.com/Images/Paddle2.jpg
Cancha do better than that?:slaphappy :friend :slaphappy
LadyCoonskinner
04-08-2007, 12:31 AM
Here's my contribution...
http://crystalman62.xtremeserver.net/images/Modeling/Baseball%20Bat_001.jpg
Ok, gettin better n better!!!:happydance :happydance
Cancha do better than that?:slaphappy :friend :slaphappy
This is my final offer ...
http://www.podiumwagen.com/images/mack%20truck/mack%20truck%20large.jpg
Ronzo
04-08-2007, 12:34 AM
Mine's better....
http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/Abrams_Pics/M1A1-Firing-svg-01.jpg
LadyCoonskinner
04-08-2007, 12:36 AM
I don't know how to work either one of those, do I have a volunteer to help me?
Ronzo
04-08-2007, 12:37 AM
I don't know how to work either one of those, do I have a volunteer to help me?
*raises hand*
Pick me!
I'll see ya ... and I'll up the ante....
http://www.talkingproud.us/ImagesMilitary/PeacekeeperICBM/MXTransporter.jpg
*raises hand*
Pick me!
Oh no you ... dont ....
I've got first licks ....
Ronzo
04-08-2007, 12:39 AM
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Ronzo
04-08-2007, 12:40 AM
Oh no you ... dont ....
I've got first licks ....
Who said anything about licking?
You can do all the licking you want... it's all you dude.
Russian Tsar Bomb ... largest nuclear bomb ever made ... booya ....
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/Tsarbmb.jpg
Ronzo
04-08-2007, 12:44 AM
Russian Tsara Bomb ... largest nuclear bomb ever made ... booya ....
Missile defense system, pansy boy
http://www.princeton.edu/~jfriess/blog/BMD.JPG
Ronzo
04-08-2007, 12:46 AM
G'night Dan. Love ya bro.
G'night Dan. Love ya bro.
No fair ... G'night bro .... Might visit the Jones' brothers tomorrow.
This may be just semantics because pentecostals use praise and worship interchangably, but for what it's worth biblical worship isn't jumping around and shouting. The biblical definitions actually describe a different posture
Worship:
Hebrew - to prostrate, humble, make to stoop
Greek - like a dog licking his master’s hand, prostrate
Not trying to start a debate but I just taught on this last week and I realized that so much of what we call "worship" is really praise. There is a big difference.Oh, but you can't go around saying that! Why, don't you realize that it doesn't matter what the Bible says, it only matters what Pentecostal tradition says? Pointing out to us the truth of God's word and how we' don't use terms the way the Bible uses them is legalism! :D
My husband and several of the men in my UPC church are growing beards for Easter! One of the men is the father of a well known poster here. Going around town my husband has made sure that EVERY pentecostal who either ignored him or turned their nose up he would go up to and tell them why he was growing a beard. I have mixed emotions about it. My husband's dad isn't hardly even speaking to him. I would love to know or maybe I would not want to know what the people on AFF think. Okay let the games begin!!!!!
As a member of a UPCI church and NOT in any way a liberal, I think it is stupid for folk to get upset over beards.
In fact, I think a better case can be made that we should all have one, than the case for having a no beard standard.
this is true silliness.
MrsMcD
04-09-2007, 08:58 AM
Easter is over. It is time to shave those sinful beards. No more Easter excuse for keeping one. :D
Missile defense system, pansy boy
http://www.princeton.edu/~jfriess/blog/BMD.JPG
you do know that we are working on a lazer system that seems to be far better than SDI?
BoredOutOfMyMind
04-09-2007, 09:02 AM
Easter is over. It is time to shave those sinful beards. No more Easter excuse for keeping one. :D
Maybe I will tell my Pastor I volunteer to grow one for next year's drama. (we don't have these btw)
:nah
Easter is over. It is time to shave those sinful beards. No more Easter excuse for keeping one. :D
maybe we should start being biblical and all grow beards!
Esther
04-09-2007, 09:04 AM
As a member of a UPCI church and NOT in any way a liberal, I think it is stupid for folk to get upset over beards.
In fact, I think a better case can be made that we should all have one, than the case for having a no beard standard.
this is true silliness.
Amen!!!
Buffy
04-09-2007, 09:15 AM
Well the beard is off! Our Easter Drama was a huge success. Over the four nights we ministered to around 1,275 people, so I guess the Easter beards were worth it!
rgcraig
04-09-2007, 09:19 AM
Well the beard is off! Our Easter Drama was a huge success. Over the four nights we ministered to around 1,275 people, so I guess the Easter beards were worth it!
That's awesome!
I didn't see the donation jug until we were leaving (too many people in the lobby when we got there), so I made a deposit there.....hope others did also!
Buffy
04-09-2007, 09:32 AM
That's awesome!
I didn't see the donation jug until we were leaving (too many people in the lobby when we got there), so I made a deposit there.....hope others did also!
It was a lot of work, but so much fun! Thanks for the deposit!:tiphat
We did not do any advertising and still had that many people come! I look forward to next year!
I went to the annual Easter Drama in Auburn Hills (Pontiac)...it was very good...
The amount of talent there is just astounding...the sets and costumes were gorgeous, the music wonderful, and the Spirit rich. I cried at the end, as I always do.
I was there Good Friday night and it was sold out...for visibility purposes, some of the seats were closed off on the right and left, but I would say there were over 2,000 there that night.
When they had the dress rehearsal, they brought in folks from their prison ministry, and over 30 women were baptized that night in Jesus Name!!:happydance
Oh, and the beards were real...:winkgrin
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