Legitimate Apostolic Colleges

[Rico]

Do y'all know of any legitimate Apostolic colleges? You know, the kind that are actually accredited, with degrees that are accepted by employers? I found one college that offers a degree for $200!! What kinda bogus education is that? Is that the best we can come up with for higher education?

[Timmy]

Do y'all know of any legitimate Apostolic colleges? You know, the kind that are actually accredited, with degrees that are accepted by employers? I found one college that offers a degree for $200!! What kinda bogus education is that? Is that the best we can come up with for higher education?

Yeah! They shouldn't charge anything!

[Pragmatist]

Does anyone know if Great Lakes University is accredited now? I think it's been four years since they started.

[1Corinth2v4]

Do y'all know of any legitimate Apostolic colleges? You know, the kind that are actually accredited, with degrees that are accepted by employers? I found one college that offers a degree for $200!! What kinda bogus education is that? Is that the best we can come up with for higher education?

$200.00 would be a blessing after you've spent nearly $100K

[DividedThigh]

especially if you got rooked on the 100k, lol

[Rico]

$200.00 would be a blessing after you've spent nearly $100K

I can not fathom getting a decent education for $200. It doesn't make any sense. In my opinion, any college that offers a degree for that kind of money is nothing more than a diploma mill.

[stmatthew]

I taught my kids that if they wanted to go to bible college, they should go to a secular college first and get at the least an Associates degree in a usable field, and then go on to bible college. With all the options for distant learning degree's, I wouldn't recommend anyone go to bible college first. You can always do your bible learning via distant learning after you finish secular college and get settled into a job.

But that is just my opinion.

[tamor]

I taught my kids that if they wanted to go to bible college, they should go to a secular college first and get at the least an Associates degree in a usable field, and then go on to bible college. With all the options for distant learning degree's, I wouldn't recommend anyone go to bible college first. You can always do your bible learning via distant learning after you finish secular college and get settled into a job.

But that is just my opinion.


Same here, Matt. My daughter wanted to go one in Texas that is not accredited. We decided on Lee University in Cleveland, TN. If she wants to go later, she can still do it. I just want her to have that degree first.

[LUKE2447]

Go to a secular college first get a degree then go to Bible college. It is the best way financially and the future.

[Rico]

I taught my kids that if they wanted to go to bible college, they should go to a secular college first and get at the least an Associates degree in a usable field, and then go on to bible college. With all the options for distant learning degree's, I wouldn't recommend anyone go to bible college first. You can always do your bible learning via distant learning after you finish secular college and get settled into a job.

But that is just my opinion.

I agree.

[Michael The Disciple]

I can not fathom getting a decent education for $200. It doesn't make any sense. In my opinion, any college that offers a degree for that kind of money is nothing more than a diploma mill.

What happened to learning the Bible from the Elders of the Church? Are Elders not teaching the whole counsel of God? If they are NOT how did they become an Elder?

[Sister Alvear]

Nothing in your head has to affect that is in your heart...I encourage our youth to get an education...

[commonsense]

When most Bible schools started it was for the ministry and no one considered secular jobs.
In today's world I'd say get a real degree.
Or make special arrangements.
A medical student attended when I was at ABI. He took a one yr break from his "real" degree and came to ABI. He was permitted to take classes from all 3 yrs programs as was deemed most beneficial.
This is no doubt what they should offer to others..................

[StillStanding]

I saw the title of this thread and thought it would be empty! :D

[Rico]

What happened to learning the Bible from the Elders of the Church? Are Elders not teaching the whole counsel of God? If they are NOT how did they become an Elder?

There's nothing wrong with that route. There's nothing wrong with wanting to go to some sort of college either. Wasn't Daniel (the one in the Bible) part of some school for prophets or something of that nature?

[Michael The Disciple]

There's nothing wrong with that route. There's nothing wrong with wanting to go to some sort of college either. Wasn't Daniel (the one in the Bible) part of some school for prophets or something of that nature?

There was a school of the Prophets in the OT. That is seen in the NT in the ministry of Yeshua teaching the Apostles. Then it is seen in the Elders teaching the Church. It is NEVER seen as people coming and paying a set sum to be taught the word of God.

No one went that route in the New Testament Church.

[Rico]

There was a school of the Prophets in the OT. That is seen in the NT in the ministry of Yeshua teaching the Apostles. Then it is seen in the Elders teaching the Church. It is NEVER seen as people coming and paying a set sum to be taught the word of God.

No one went that route in the New Testament Church.

I am not saying this to be rude, MTD, but so what? If someone wants to go to Bible School, and can actually find an accredited one among the apostolics, what does it matter to you that they didn't do it that way in the NT? There's nothing wrong with someone wanting to get a religious education apart from what they learn at church. What's sad is that apostolics really don't have many, if any, good choices.

[Pro31:28]

I attend Regent University online (starting my Junior year in August)and I am very happy with My education. If we lived closer I would be happy to attend on campus, but I really don't feel like I am missing anything by learning at home. I am pursuing a Bachelors in Communication with a Minor in Governent, but as part of my general studies, I have had to take 4 courses in what are termed "religious studies",
New Testament Survey,
Mission and Message of Jesus,
Worldviews,
Contemporary problems for Christian Leaders
(also my logic and critical thinking class, as well as science we very Bible based)

All of the courses I take come from a biblical worldview and other then one professor who had a little different opinion on "The Kingdom", I have not had to skew my views in order to attend. They would not be apostolic, but they are very 'oneness, and Pentecostal Friendly'... That is if you can get over the fact that there is a television studio on campus, as well as a large theater... :)
Well, and there is also the fact that they teach... <GASP> Law Students!
If anyone is interested, send me a PM and let me know!

[Rico]

I attend Regent University online (starting my Junior year in August)and I am very happy with My education. If we lived closer I would be happy to attend on campus, but I really don't feel like I am missing anything by learning at home. I am pursuing a Bachelors in Communication with a Minor in Governent, but as part of my general studies, I have had to take 4 courses in what are termed "religious studies",
New Testament Survey,
Mission and Message of Jesus,
Worldviews,
Contemporary problems for Christian Leaders
(also my logic and critical thinking class, as well as science we very Bible based)

All of the courses I take come from a biblical worldview and other then one professor who had a little different opinion on "The Kingdom", I have not had to skew my views in order to attend. They would not be apostolic, but they are very 'oneness, and Pentecostal Friendly'... That is if you can get over the fact that there is a television studio on campus, as well as a large theater... :)
Well, and there is also the fact that they teach... <GASP> Law Students!
If anyone is interested, send me a PM and let me know!

I don't know anything about that college. Is it an apostolic one?

[Pro31:28]

I don't know anything about that college. Is it an apostolic one?

No, but they do have penteostal leanings, and a couple of the professors are oneness.

[Pro31:28]

I don't know anything about that college. Is it an apostolic one?

www.regent.edu

[Rico]

No, but they do have penteostal leanings, and a couple of the professors are oneness.

Ok. So there is at least some oneness/pentecostal influence there. Cool. I see nothing wrong with that at all.

[dizzyde]

I taught my kids that if they wanted to go to bible college, they should go to a secular college first and get at the least an Associates degree in a usable field, and then go on to bible college. With all the options for distant learning degree's, I wouldn't recommend anyone go to bible college first. You can always do your bible learning via distant learning after you finish secular college and get settled into a job.

But that is just my opinion.

Same here, Matt. My daughter wanted to go one in Texas that is not accredited. We decided on Lee University in Cleveland, TN. If she wants to go later, she can still do it. I just want her to have that degree first.

This exactly what I told my daughter, not that she wanted to go to Bible College, she had other academic goals. But I told her that if she wanted to go, it was better to do it after she finished her "real" degree.

[Pastor Keith]

Do y'all know of any legitimate Apostolic colleges? You know, the kind that are actually accredited, with degrees that are accepted by employers? I found one college that offers a degree for $200!! What kinda bogus education is that? Is that the best we can come up with for higher education?


My understanding is that Gateway is or will be soon accredited.

[Michael The Disciple]

I am not saying this to be rude, MTD, but so what? If someone wants to go to Bible School, and can actually find an accredited one among the apostolics, what does it matter to you that they didn't do it that way in the NT? There's nothing wrong with someone wanting to get a religious education apart from what they learn at church. What's sad is that apostolics really don't have many, if any, good choices.

The answer concerning so what is simple. Its not in the New Testamant. Its like saying "of course Christmas is not in the Bible but so what". And the thing that is SO WRONG is that they CANNOT be taught by the local Church. They are loaded down with the same errors as the Bible Colleges.

At least you are right about that.

[Rico]

The answer concerning so what is simple. Its not in the New Testamant. Its like saying "of course Christmas is not in the Bible but so what". And the thing that is SO WRONG is that they CANNOT be taught by the local Church. They are loaded down with the same errors as the Bible Colleges.

At least you are right about that.

This is amazing. You want to come on here and slam people for getting an education at a Bible college? Sorry, Bro., but it just doesn't compute. There's no sin in going to Bible college. In fact, more people should go to Bible college. It's a shame us apostolics don't have any legitimate Bible colleges, but my guess is that is something that will eventually change. Even without formal accreditation, I don't see the harm in someone getting an education from a Bible college as long as they're not expecting their degree to buy them a job and as long as it's not from one of these $200 diploma mills.

[OnTheFritz]

I saw the title of this thread and thought it would be empty! :D

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

[Michael The Disciple]

This is amazing. You want to come on here and slam people for getting an education at a Bible college? Sorry, Bro., but it just doesn't compute. There's no sin in going to Bible college. In fact, more people should go to Bible college. It's a shame us apostolics don't have any legitimate Bible colleges, but my guess is that is something that will eventually change. Even without formal accreditation, I don't see the harm in someone getting an education from a Bible college as long as they're not expecting their degree to buy them a job and as long as it's not from one of these $200 diploma mills.

Is this not an admission that the whole counsel of God is not being taught in the local Churches? If it WERE there would be no need for young people to uproot and pay men somewhere else to teach them the truth.

Maybe we talking apples and oranges. When I speak against Bible College my definition is this:

A place where interested Students go to learn more Bible truth. They pay the Teachers and for all their materials and of course their living quarters. They are not there to learn how to be a Doctor or a Lawyer.

If one is working his education to prepare for a secular type job there are other places they can go and learn. Or are you talking about a College where they teach secular subjects and have some Bible classes here and there?

As far as "slamming" anyone that was not my intent. My intent is to show there is no basis for a Bible College in the Bible. The concept of it is not ordained by Jesus Christ. So if I am slamming anyone it is those Teachers and Admins who operate something so far off. Not the young people who dont know a better way.

And especially I am sounding out the message that every Pastor/Elder should be capable of teaching the whole counsel of God. If they cannot they should not be in Eldership.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Do y'all know of any legitimate Apostolic colleges? You know, the kind that are actually accredited, with degrees that are accepted by employers? I found one college that offers a degree for $200!! What kinda bogus education is that? Is that the best we can come up with for higher education?


You can get a legitimate degree if you attend Gateway. They have a program where you can take classes simultaneously with another neighboring school that is accredited. I think it is Patterson Univ or Patten or something with a "P".

[Jermyn Davidson]

No, but they do have penteostal leanings, and a couple of the professors are oneness.

Regent is connected to Pat Robertson, like Liberty is to the late Jerry Falwell.

[Pro31:28]

I don't know anything about that college. Is it an apostolic one?

Regent is connected to Pat Robertson, like Liberty is to the late Jerry Falwell.

Yeah, he founded it, but he doesnt have much to do with the day to day runnings. I can't say that he has ever been mentioned in class. I did hear him speak at a graduation ceremony, though... He is a little off his rocker, but his vision has brought about a great work... I don't follow CBN, but he hires good teachers!

[Rico]

Is this not an admission that the whole counsel of God is not being taught in the local Churches? If it WERE there would be no need for young people to uproot and pay men somewhere else to teach them the truth.

Maybe we talking apples and oranges. When I speak against Bible College my definition is this:

A place where interested Students go to learn more Bible truth. They pay the Teachers and for all their materials and of course their living quarters. They are not there to learn how to be a Doctor or a Lawyer.

If one is working his education to prepare for a secular type job there are other places they can go and learn. Or are you talking about a College where they teach secular subjects and have some Bible classes here and there?

MTD, I'm sorry, Bro., but the purpose of the Church is not be a college. I don't know where you got that idea either. Sunday school, Wednesday night Bible study, and all the preaching in the world will still not be the same as going to a college specifically for the study of the Bible. There are simply too many details involved to expect that kind of in-depth learning to take place during regular church activities. Should people be learning from what's taught at their churches? Most definitely. Does that mean churches are supposed to be set up like colleges? Of course not.

Also, Bible college doesn't just teach one about the Bible. Bible courses are mixed in with the other subjects being taught. At least I would think it's this way. Even in secular colleges you have to take English classes, things like advanced mathematics, and suchlike. This is assuming, of course, you aren't getting your degree from one of these degree mills.

[Rhoni]

Indiana Wesleyan University accepted my JCM Bible Courses. There program requires Biblical foundation as well as secular teachings. I learned a lot from my professors who were: Wesleyan, Calvanist, and Quaker. One of my professors taught in the English school in Korea and taught the Bernard children while they were on the mission field in Korea. Talk about a small world.

All young people should get a secular education so they can work their way through Bible College.

Very few employers, or even colleges, care about education received at a non-accreditted Bible College.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Is this not an admission that the whole counsel of God is not being taught in the local Churches? If it WERE there would be no need for young people to uproot and pay men somewhere else to teach them the truth.



Secularly, I think Bible Colleges are ALMOST useless if not accredited.

Spiritually, God can use a Bible College to work out His Will in someone's life, but he can do the same without one going to Bible College.

Alas, when I think of Bible College, I think of it as a place where young folks go to get spouses because there aren't any suitable ones in their local congregations.

[Rico]

MTD, check this site out.


http://gatewaycollege.net/

[Pro31:28]

Secularly, I think Bible Colleges are ALMOST useless if not accredited.

Spiritually, God can use a Bible College to work out His Will in someone's life, but he can do the same without one going to Bible College.

Alas, when I think of Bible College, I think of it as a place where young folks go to get spouses because there aren't any suitable ones in their local congregations.

I didnt go for that purpose... But alas that's where I found my Hunk o' Hunk o' Burnin' love! (wow, almost 16 years ago...) :dance

[Rico]

I didnt go for that purpose... But alas that's where I found my Hunk o' Hunk o' Burnin' love! (wow, almost 16 years ago...) :dance

U found Elvis at a Bible college?!?!?!?! :D

[Rhoni]

Gloria Gaither spoke at my graduation ceremony when I was awarded a Master of Arts in Christian Marriage & Family Counseling. She did an awesome job of describing Jesus as being Alpha, the God of beginnings, and Omega, the God of endings. One thing that stands out in my mind that I have come to know and understand: Many times what would appear to be a beginning has been and ending, and what I thought was an ending was truly a beginning.

[Pro31:28]

U found Elvis at a Bible college?!?!?!?! :D


Ummmm no! Mine is WAY better lookin'!

[Scott Hutchinson]

I don't have a Bible college education which I certainly could have benefited from,I understand a DR.Joe Nelson from Parkersburg,WV has a good school.

[Scott Hutchinson]

These people although we won't agree with them everything have a pretty good course I understand.
http://unitedchristianbiblecollege.com

[Rico]

Got a question about this Gateway college. If they are accredited, then why don't they accept government grants and federal student loans? Anyone know off the top of their head?

[Scott Hutchinson]

Here is the correct link.http://unitedchristianchurch.com/united_christian_bible_institute.html

[Scott Hutchinson]

Here is one from DR.Nelson.http://www.parkersburgbiblecollege.com/about_PBC_history.htm

[TRFrance]

As far as "slamming" anyone that was not my intent. My intent is to show there is no basis for a Bible College in the Bible. The concept of it is not ordained by Jesus Christ. So if I am slamming anyone it is those Teachers and Admins who operate something so far off. Not the young people who dont know a better way.

And especially I am sounding out the message that every Pastor/Elder should be capable of teaching the whole counsel of God. If they cannot they should not be in Eldership.

Ephesians 4:11-12 speaks of the 5-fold ministry of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. Who says the teaching has to be done only by the Pastor/elder in one's local church, [as you seem to be implying]?

What is wrong with creating institutions that prepare people for ministry and ministry-related work? I don't see how that violates any biblical principle.

As a matter of fact, Bible Colleges have been a useful tool to the body of Christ, having prepared tens of thousands of ministry workers to help fulfill the Great Commission. I don't think God has any problem with the existence of bible colleges at all, and I'm not sure why you do.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Here is another one of interest.http://awcf.org/content/view/31/61/

[rrford]

Man, I didn't realize that some of us that worked at Bible Colleges and feel that to be our calling and passion were beneath contempt to so many. :whistle

I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into a discussion about Bible Colleges and whether they are scriptural or satanic; whether they serve any good purpose or are only a roller coaster to marriage; but let me make a couple of salient points (not that it will really matter): I well realize that BC's are not accpetable to many in the Pentecostal ranks. No problem. Just don't want to argue with folks over it. Personally, when allowed to serve their real purpose BC's serve a definite good.

None of the UPCI Bible Colleges are accredited nor will any of them most likely be in the next few years. Gateway, like most other BC's have nearby accredited colleges where one can take classes simultaneously..

Bible College serves a far greater purpose in the lives of thoe CALLED TO MINISTRY than just Biblical education:

It also has more value than somewhere to find a spouse (although it can be a great place to find one.)

There are relationship and people skills that are developed in a BC setting that really is quite unique and can't be matched in man other places.

World views are expanded in an exponential way in a BC setting for many people.

I am not against secular education. I am against the mentality of telling a God called minister to get an "accredited" degree so they have something to fall back on. God has a degree in faith that has to be learned and earned somewhere, especially for those in the ministry.

After reading some of the repsonses on this thread it is little wonder to me why we are lacking young people with a deisre to pursue ministerial calling.

Now, I shall go find a corner to build an altar and repent for wasting my prime years investing my life, my anointing, my God given knowledge and ability into the hearts and lives of the next generation of ministry. :snapout

[rrford]

Ephesians 4:11-12 speaks of the 5-fold ministry of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. Who says the teaching has to be done only by the Pastor/elder in one's local church, [as you seem to be implying]?

What is wrong with creating institutions that prepare people for ministry and ministry-related work? I don't see how that violates any biblical principle.

As a matter of fact, Bible Colleges have been a useful tool to the body of Christ, having prepared tens of thousands of ministry workers to help fulfill the Great Commission. I don't think God has any problem with the existence of bible colleges at all, and I'm not sure why you do.

Thanks for this post.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Bible college does seem to be a good idea to me.

[Michael The Disciple]

Ephesians 4:11-12 speaks of the 5-fold ministry of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. Who says the teaching has to be done only by the Pastor/elder in one's local church, [as you seem to be implying]?

What is wrong with creating institutions that prepare people for ministry and ministry-related work? I don't see how that violates any biblical principle.

As a matter of fact, Bible Colleges have been a useful tool to the body of Christ, having prepared tens of thousands of ministry workers to help fulfill the Great Commission. I don't think God has any problem with the existence of bible colleges at all, and I'm not sure why you do.

The teaching in the local Church certainly should not be limited to the Elders. Matter of fact I feel thats part of the problem. People are USUALLY only getting preached to as opposed to being taught.

As far as violating principle I have stated there is no command nor precedent for charging disciples of Yeshua to teach them his truth. Rather that is to be done in the local Church. If you can give me an example go ahead. Maybe I missed something.

Well thousands of workers may well have come out of the Colleges. I know for sure at least for a season the Lord will use a program that is not fully of him.

[Michael The Disciple]

MTD, I'm sorry, Bro., but the purpose of the Church is not be a college. I don't know where you got that idea either. Sunday school, Wednesday night Bible study, and all the preaching in the world will still not be the same as going to a college specifically for the study of the Bible. There are simply too many details involved to expect that kind of in-depth learning to take place during regular church activities. Should people be learning from what's taught at their churches? Most definitely. Does that mean churches are supposed to be set up like colleges? Of course not.

Also, Bible college doesn't just teach one about the Bible. Bible courses are mixed in with the other subjects being taught. At least I would think it's this way. Even in secular colleges you have to take English classes, things like advanced mathematics, and suchlike. This is assuming, of course, you aren't getting your degree from one of these degree mills.

Here is what I am saying. Paul taught the Elders at Ephesus everything he knew.

26: Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.
27: For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
28: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Acts 20:26-28

He said he taught them ALL THE COUNSEL OF GOD. That means there was nothing he was holding back from them. He then charged THEM to feed the flock. With what?

The whole counsel of God they got from him. This was a primitive time and place in our eyes. Yet THEY had the truth. We on the other hand in this day with all our learning tools and Bible Colleges have produced Preachers that are in key issues at stark contrast to the simplistic gospel taught in the early Church.

Looks like I am outgunned in this belief so guess I should let it go.

[rrford]

The teaching in the local Church certainly should not be limited to the Elders. Matter of fact I feel thats part of the problem. People are USUALLY only getting preached to as opposed to being taught.

As far as violating principle I have stated there is no command nor precedent for charging disciples of Yeshua to teach them his truth. Rather that is to be done in the local Church. If you can give me an example go ahead. Maybe I missed something.

Well thousands of workers may well have come out of the Colleges. I know for sure at least for a season the Lord will use a program that is not fully of him.

Your posts on this thread border on "Ignorant" with a capital "I."

[TRFrance]

Your posts on this thread border on "Ignorant" with a capital "I."
In the new testament they met in house churches. There's no biblical record of groups of saints buying buildings to have church in. So using that logic, maybe he thinks having "church buildings" is wrong too.

[Michael The Disciple]

Your posts on this thread border on "Ignorant" with a capital "I."

And yet no one can produce a New Testament example. So really the "faith once delivered to the saints" is not important in this day and age. Just run the Church according to whatever seems right in our own eyes.

[rrford]

And yet no one can produce a New Testament example. So really the "faith once delivered to the saints" is not important in this day and age. Just run the Church according to whatever seems right in our own eyes.

Let me know how those robes and sandals are working for ya.

[TRFrance]

And yet no one can produce a New Testament example. So really the "faith once delivered to the saints" is not important in this day and age. Just run the Church according to whatever seems right in our own eyes.
Michael, stop the foolishness please.

There's no New Testament example of churches having choirs either. So are churches wrong for having choirs? What New Testament principle does the existence of choirs violate? (none! ... And neither do bible colleges violate any scriptural principle.)

Get your priorities in order, brother. Save the righteous indignation for the real serious issues, not for these bible colleges that are helping build up God's kingdom. You're really wasting time with this.

[rrford]

Michael, stop the foolishness please.

There's no New Testament example of churches having choirs either. So are churches wrong for having choirs? What New Testament principle does the existence of choirs violate? (none! ... And neither do bible colleges violate any scriptural principle.)

Get your priorities in order, brother. Save the righteous indignation for the real serious issues, not for these bible colleges that are helping build up God's kingdom. You're really wasting time with this.

Thanks again. For a while there I was contemplating quitting my job. :crazy:whistle

[Michael The Disciple]

TRFrance

You're really wasting time with this.

On this we agree.

[Rico]

MTD, you do make a good point that sometimes not enough is being taught in local churches. That still doesn't make Bible colleges wrong or some sort of affront to the NT.

[TRFrance]

MTD, you do make a good point that sometimes not enough is being taught in local churches. That still doesn't make Bible colleges wrong or some sort of affront to the NT.
Well said sir.

Balance is key.
Imbalanced views of scripture can lead to [and has led to] all kinds of erroneous teachings.

[Ferd]

the disciples went to the synagogue and evidence suggests that the early Jewish Christians met there.

Paul preached in public (not in a house)

Peter and Paul met a large group of people (clearly not a house) when they followed Philip to Samaria.

while Paul was preaching someone fell out of a window and died. not likely to be some small "House group"

so all this talk about the early church not having meeting places for larger groups of people (like churches) is a bunch of bunk.

Look, you guys that want to have house church, that's fine by me. go for it. I don't care how you meet, so long as you meet, so long as you have pastoral authority in your life, so long as you are both giving and receiving truth.

Just dont act like "church" in the modern sense is somehow anti-biblical or somehow, not the method God intended.

hog wash!


I feel better.

[Rico]

the disciples went to the synagogue and evidence suggests that the early Jewish Christians met there.

Paul preached in public (not in a house)

Peter and Paul met a large group of people (clearly not a house) when they followed Philip to Samaria.

while Paul was preaching someone fell out of a window and died. not likely to be some small "House group"

so all this talk about the early church not having meeting places for larger groups of people (like churches) is a bunch of bunk.

Look, you guys that want to have house church, that's fine by me. go for it. I don't care how you meet, so long as you meet, so long as you have pastoral authority in your life, so long as you are both giving and receiving truth.

Just dont act like "church" in the modern sense is somehow anti-biblical or somehow, not the method God intended.

hog wash!


I feel better.

I hear ya. I envision a sort of hybrid for myself and my family. We'd like to make these home meetings a regular thing, and include visiting churches when finances will allow. I certainly do not think it needs to be an either/or type of situation.