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mizpeh
07-20-2008, 02:46 PM
Is sin fun? Here's what one person wrote:
Sin is fun. At least it can be. I admit to this. I am an expert at both sin and fun. I like one, but often find the former a necessary conduit to this latter.
Now, obviously, we would not classify all sin as “fun.” Exploding in uncalled for anger is not fun. Worry is not fun. Demeaning others for the sake of self-security is not really fun. In many cases, the deepest sinful bents we have are not practiced for the sake of fun.
But some sin is fun and fun is our motivation for this sin. No, it is not pride, hate, or lack of faith that catapults us into this sin . . . it is just plain fun. It is to remedy the often mundane boring circumstance we find ourselves in. Escape from reality? Maybe. But it is often the reality we feel we are compelled to. Who wants to be bored. Boredom and escape from what we believe to be a trapped personality waiting to happen, can cause us to say, “What the heck! What harm does it really do? If we have a good time while engaging in some sin and as long as no one gets hurt, what’s the problem?”
This is not a defense of sin. God’s word is our ultimate authority, not our definition and drive for fun. Often the Christian life will be boring. Often doing what is right feels to go against our natural inclination for the fuller life. I think that this is what is so hard for some of us to realize. The “fuller life,” “fun,” and “pleasure” often change from day to day, having many dependencies. Personal instability will redefine everything. Telling a non-Christian that they are not really having fun may be the wrong direction to take. As well, I don’t think that this is the best direction for Christians to take in own own battle against sin.
Yes, there is pleasure in sin for a season, but that “season” may be our entire life.
http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/07/18/sin-is-fun/
ReformedDave
07-20-2008, 02:56 PM
Is sin fun? Here's what one person wrote:
Sin is fun. At least it can be. I admit to this. I am an expert at both sin and fun. I like one, but often find the former a necessary conduit to this latter.
Now, obviously, we would not classify all sin as “fun.” Exploding in uncalled for anger is not fun. Worry is not fun. Demeaning others for the sake of self-security is not really fun. In many cases, the deepest sinful bents we have are not practiced for the sake of fun.
But some sin is fun and fun is our motivation for this sin. No, it is not pride, hate, or lack of faith that catapults us into this sin . . . it is just plain fun. It is to remedy the often mundane boring circumstance we find ourselves in. Escape from reality? Maybe. But it is often the reality we feel we are compelled to. Who wants to be bored. Boredom and escape from what we believe to be a trapped personality waiting to happen, can cause us to say, “What the heck! What harm does it really do? If we have a good time while engaging in some sin and as long as no one gets hurt, what’s the problem?”
This is not a defense of sin. God’s word is our ultimate authority, not our definition and drive for fun. Often the Christian life will be boring. Often doing what is right feels to go against our natural inclination for the fuller life. I think that this is what is so hard for some of us to realize. The “fuller life,” “fun,” and “pleasure” often change from day to day, having many dependencies. Personal instability will redefine everything. Telling a non-Christian that they are not really having fun may be the wrong direction to take. As well, I don’t think that this is the best direction for Christians to take in own own battle against sin.
Yes, there is pleasure in sin for a season, but that “season” may be our entire life.
http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/07/18/sin-is-fun/
In our natural state we love sin. Otherwise why do we choose to do it? The end result is tragic and many types of sin will eventually destroy our lives in a physical way but we don't usually count the cost.
Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:00 PM
There is no such thing as a miserable sinner.... until the Spirit of God begins to draw theml... then and only then will you find a miserable sinner... all other sinners are having the time of their life... THE PLEASURES OF SIN.... it is pleasurable... except for the elect who God draws unto himself... if they are out in sin.. once this light begins to shine on their path and they come into recognition of the true place in Christ.. then the Spirits drawing will make them miserable as they must decide now which pull to obey
TRFrance
07-20-2008, 03:05 PM
Yes, sin is pleasurable, but that doesn't mean people who live in sin are happy.
Of course there are miserable sinners. That's why so many of them end up committing suicide.
Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:13 PM
Yes, sin is pleasurable, but that doesn't mean people who live in sin are happy.
Of course there are miserable sinners. That's why so many of them end up committing suicide.
Go to the bar across the street and see if you find misery.. or good times....people have fun in sin until God begins to draw them and of course some run to death instead of God
rgcraig
07-20-2008, 03:23 PM
Is fun sin?
RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 03:27 PM
Is fun sin?
Yes, unless it is eating at the Old Country Buffet.
dizzyde
07-20-2008, 03:27 PM
Is fun sin?
Well, I sincerely hope not, otherwise I am in a heap of trouble! :dance
Michael The Disciple
07-20-2008, 03:49 PM
Go to the bar across the street and see if you find misery.. or good times....people have fun in sin until God begins to draw them and of course some run to death instead of God
Speaking as the chief of sinners you could not be more wrong. Sinners can have fun at times of course. They can also have lonely times of depression. I would guess more sinners suffer from depession than Christians.
The joy of the Lord is our strength. I have no greater joy than to hear my children walk in truth.
RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 04:40 PM
Speaking as the chief of sinners you could not be more wrong. Sinners can have fun at times of course. They can also have lonely times of depression. I would guess more sinners suffer from depession than Christians.
The joy of the Lord is our strength. I have no greater joy than to hear my children walk in truth.
Actually, I think he way saying exactly the same thing you just did. Sin IS fun for a season. I had some GREAT times in bars during a few periods in my 20's. But the times quickly ended when the night did, and the morning came.
RevDWW
07-20-2008, 09:09 PM
True joy comes from the Holy Ghost. Happiness is generally predicated on circumstance. A sinner can be happy, but a the same time joyless.
AbundantGrace
07-20-2008, 09:23 PM
Go to the bar across the street and see if you find misery.. or good times....people have fun in sin until God begins to draw them and of course some run to death instead of God
Dr. Vaughn,
I must adamantly disagree with you my friend. Being a delivered Meth Addict and Alcoholic, I know about the misery of sin firsthand... I knew many other sinners back in the day, who were miserable as well. My best friend, Johnnie, took his own life at the young age of only 36 years old via an overdose, because he was so miserable. Sure, there are times which are fun, but sin is a miserable, miserable existence and only increases in misery with time.
Now, I must admit that in the very beginning, much of my sin was fun. It was the fun that, I suppose, kept drawing me back, but once the sinful addictions had their hold on me, I was a tormented, depressed, and hurting man. I was far from having a good time.
There are many people who you will see who are actively using or drinking and partying in clubs who look like they're having a great time (and some are), but many of those who look like they're having the time of their life are really so miserable and the look of fun, is nothing but a facade temporarily enhanced by the drugs or alcohol to try and hide the pain that they're really in.
Not wanting to argue for the sake of arguing, but after living that lifestyle for 17 years, I absolutely know what I'm talking about on this one.
mizpeh
07-20-2008, 09:26 PM
There is no such thing as a miserable sinner.... until the Spirit of God begins to draw theml... then and only then will you find a miserable sinner... all other sinners are having the time of their life... THE PLEASURES OF SIN.... it is pleasurable... except for the elect who God draws unto himself... if they are out in sin.. once this light begins to shine on their path and they come into recognition of the true place in Christ.. then the Spirits drawing will make them miserable as they must decide now which pull to obey
Sin is pleasurable BUT it doesn't satisfy the inner man. There is always a looking for something more, something else, a higher rush.....the elusive something that cannot be found outside of God.
After awhile, after the "season", sin takes it toll on us. We start reaping what we have sowed. Many young folks believe they can't have fun unless it includes a six pack of beer and before they know it some of them become alcoholics.
The Bible tells us there is no peace to the wicked. I think the grace of God is for ALL mankind, some respond and some don't to the goodness of God in the time of their visitation. By God's foreknowledge from before the foundation of the world, He knows who will respond and calls them to be His elect. But He wants everyone to be delivered from sin for Christ died for the whole world.
mizpeh
07-20-2008, 09:31 PM
Prov 23:29 Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has contentions? Who has complaining? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness of eyes?
30 Those who linger long over wine, Those who go to taste mixed wine.
31 Do not look on the wine when it is red, When it sparkles in the cup, When it goes down smoothly;
32 At the last it bites like a serpent And stings like a viper.
33 Your eyes will see strange things And your mind will utter perverse things.
34 And you will be like one who lies down in the middle of the sea, Or like one who lies down on the top of a mast.
35 "They struck me, but I did not become ill; They beat me, but I did not know it. When shall I awake? I will seek another drink."
Timmy
07-20-2008, 10:02 PM
Is sin fun? How would I know?
:ursofunny
Is sin fun? How would I know?
:ursofunny
Maybe we could ask someone that does it?
Jermyn Davidson
07-20-2008, 11:28 PM
Some sins are fun. My Dad has a saying though: "The same thing that makes you laugh will make you cry."
Some sins are fun. My Dad has a saying though: "The same thing that makes you laugh will make you cry."
Well, tell 2798 that sounds about right.
U376977
07-20-2008, 11:45 PM
Go to the bar across the street and see if you find misery.. or good times....people have fun in sin until God begins to draw them and of course some run to death instead of God
Until you wake up the next morning. It is called a hang over!!! LOL, for those of us who have been there.
REALITY. There is no pleasure in sin when the drunk lays down at night and the haunting, dark, horrid and oppressive spirit settles down on your heart, pushing your shoulders into the bed and robbing you of sleep. The darkness of you own soul rises up and it seems as if the flames of hell are already dancing at your feet. No peace, no joy remains. The good times at the bar are a hollow memory and all things are meaningless. Friends are gone.
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