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Michael Phelps
07-20-2008, 03:15 PM
Dear Doctor,

Maybe this has been asked and answered, and if it has, forgive my failure to see it, but:

What degree do you have that qualifies you as a doctor?

From which university did you earn said degree?

Thanks for your answer.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:17 PM
Oh My Lord.. not again.. please Lord not again

SDG
07-20-2008, 03:18 PM
Oh My Lord.. not again.. please Lord not again

I'm interested too ...

Whats your BA and MA in?
From where?

Michael Phelps
07-20-2008, 03:18 PM
Oh My Lord.. not again.. please Lord not again

Just a simple question, should be a simple answer?

rgcraig
07-20-2008, 03:22 PM
Maybe the same place 1Corth received his?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:25 PM
Yep,, here's your answer

go to the search button and research... and be fair.. because someone thats not seeing this will ask the same thing again of me in an hour... I really do tire of answering the question.....

You know what.. forget it.... one day I WILL QUIT answering this question though.. I keep promisng myself that

Associates - Pearl River College, Pearl River, La
BA - Vision University, Ramona California
MA - Vision University, Ramona California
Ph.D. - Regents University, Virgina Beach, Va

and yes, all accredited... bye the way.. why am I the only on here who has to answer these questions?

rgcraig
07-20-2008, 03:26 PM
Yep,, here's your answer

go to the search button and research... and be fair.. because someone thats not seeing this will ask the same thing again of me in an hour... I really do tire of answering the question.....

You know what.. forget it.... one day I WILL QUIT answering this question though.. I keep promisng myself that

Associates - Pearl River College, Pearl River, La
BA - Vision University, Ramona California
MA - Vision University, Ramona California
Ph.D. - Regents University, Virgina Beach, Va

and yes, all accredited... bye the way.. why am I the only on here who has to answer these questions?You aren't.

Michael Phelps
07-20-2008, 03:27 PM
Yep,, here's your answer

go to the search button and research... and be fair.. because someone thats not seeing this will ask the same thing again of me in an hour... I really do tire of answering the question.....

You know what.. forget it.... one day I WILL QUIT answering this question though.. I keep promisng myself that

Associates - Pearl River College, Pearl River, La
BA - Vision University, Ramona California
MA - Vision University, Ramona California
Ph.D. - Regents University, Virgina Beach, Va

and yes, all accredited... bye the way.. why am I the only on here who has to answer these questions?


As far as I know, you're the only one who uses the title Dr. in their user name, that's probably why you're questioned......but, thanks for the answer!

Steve Epley
07-20-2008, 03:28 PM
Yep,, here's your answer

go to the search button and research... and be fair.. because someone thats not seeing this will ask the same thing again of me in an hour... I really do tire of answering the question.....

You know what.. forget it.... one day I WILL QUIT answering this question though.. I keep promisng myself that

Associates - Pearl River College, Pearl River, La
BA - Vision University, Ramona California
MA - Vision University, Ramona California
Ph.D. - Regents University, Virgina Beach, Va

and yes, all accredited... bye the way.. why am I the only on here who has to answer these questions?

No one else has Dr. in front of their name that MIGHT be the reason?:tease

B_Kendrick
07-20-2008, 03:32 PM
You can now call me Dr. Kendrick! I got my AA in disaster, my BA in zeal, my MA in argueing, and I now have my Phd. in causing trouble! :evilglee:ursofunny

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 03:33 PM
Oh My Lord.. not again.. please Lord not again

I don't know why it is that big of a deal to type a short sentence....

My wife is a real doctor as well.

But then there is "Dr J" and "Doctor <fill in a letter of the alphabet>" rap artist.....

So what is your degree in?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:34 PM
No one else has Dr. in front of their name that MIGHT be the reason?:tease

I only use it because in my circle of influence this is how I am referred to.. so its sort of what I'm used to

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 03:36 PM
Lets just say there is only ONE place I call my wife "doctor".... Hee hee hee

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:36 PM
I don't know why it is that big of a deal to type a short sentence....

My wife is a real doctor as well.

But then there is "Dr J" and "Doctor <fill in a letter of the alphabet>" rap artist.....

So what is your degree in?

Randy, its not the fact that its just a simple sentence.. it is a REPEATED SENTENCE>. I have answered it at least 10 times...

if I kept asking you where you work at eventually it would get old

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 03:37 PM
By the way, my degree is in Networking/Security with another in programming (mainly Assembler, but COBOL and RPG as well).

Steve Epley
07-20-2008, 03:38 PM
I only use it because in my circle of influence this is how I am referred to.. so its sort of what I'm used to

I am not impugning you it was YOU that was wondering why you are being asked about this now they know.

Michael Phelps
07-20-2008, 03:38 PM
Randy, its not the fact that its just a simple sentence.. it is a REPEATED SENTENCE>. I have answered it at least 10 times...

if I kept asking you where you work at eventually it would get old

I apologize for asking you to answer my simple question, as I said, I had never heard the answer.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:39 PM
By the way, my degree is in Networking/Security with another in programming (mainly Assembler, but COBOL and RPG as well).

Totally out of my league brother

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 03:39 PM
Totally out of my league brother

So what is yours in?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:40 PM
I apologize for asking you to answer my simple question, as I said, I had never heard the answer.

No big deal brother.. I will have to answer it again tomorrow

Michael Phelps
07-20-2008, 03:41 PM
No big deal brother.. I will have to answer it again tomorrow

Now you can just refer them to this thread!

SDG
07-20-2008, 03:41 PM
Yep,, here's your answer

go to the search button and research... and be fair.. because someone thats not seeing this will ask the same thing again of me in an hour... I really do tire of answering the question.....

You know what.. forget it.... one day I WILL QUIT answering this question though.. I keep promisng myself that

Associates - Pearl River College, Pearl River, La
BA - Vision University, Ramona California
MA - Vision University, Ramona California
Ph.D. - Regents University, Virgina Beach, Va

and yes, all accredited... bye the way.. why am I the only on here who has to answer these questions?

Could you share what they are in ...

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:42 PM
So what is yours in?

Randy, no offense brother.. again all of these questions have been talked about in detail on other threads.. you can easily search for them

for your sake I will answer yet again

My BA is in Business Admin
My MA is in Theology
My Ph.D. is Doctorate of Philosophy
my minor is Christian Psychology

I have an unearned Doctorate, granted in Theology

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 03:42 PM
Could you share what they are in ...

There is nothing more frustrating than trying to get the simplest answer from a politician! LOL

Maybe that is what his degree is in... Political science.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:43 PM
Tell you what Dan... why don't I just scan my transcripts and email them to you guys and perhaps all questions will be finally resolved.....

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 03:43 PM
Randy, no offense brother.. again all of these questions have been talked about in detail on other threads.. you can easily search for them

for your sake I will answer yet again

My BA is in Business Admin
My MA is in Theology
My Ph.D. is Doctorate of Philosophy

I have an unearned Doctorate, granted in Theology

Thank you :)

Praxeas
07-20-2008, 03:43 PM
I'm interested too ...

Whats your BA and MA in?
From where?
I think he got it in zoology...that is how he was able to classify us Pentecostals as hogs maybe?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:44 PM
There is nothing more frustrating than trying to get the simplest answer from a politician! LOL

Maybe that is what his degree is in... Political science.

Randy, I dont know you guy.. owe you nothing and in America what I choose to share or not to share is my right... simply tired of the constant never satisfied questions

Michael Phelps
07-20-2008, 03:44 PM
Tell you what Dan... why don't I just scan my transcripts and email them to you guys and perhaps all questions will be finally resolved.....

No need for that, questions asked and answered.

I was just curious, thanks for enlightening me!

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:45 PM
I think he got it in zoology...that is how he was able to classify us Pentecostals as hogs maybe?

PRAX,, once again.. you make it too personal... I tried to communicate on this forum with you before and you took it too far, even other's who dont necessarily like me said so publically...... since you and I are unable to effectivly communicate as brothers in Christ.. disagreeing and yet not making it personal.. I will once again decide to answer no more of your post,. I tried brother.... you just never let off of someone

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 03:46 PM
And philosophy has been getting somewhat of a bad rap in Christian circles for years. A great one to listen to is Ken Samples at www.reasons.com.

Steve Epley
07-20-2008, 03:46 PM
I looked at an application to a College once did that make me a nurse?????????:whistle

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:48 PM
I looked at an application to a College once did that make me a nurse?????????:whistle

Oh Elder,, you must be getting ready for church... your Spirit is getting right.. lol

TRFrance
07-20-2008, 03:51 PM
bye the way.. why am I the only on here who has to answer these questions?
If I may speak frankly...

Maybe because some may have thought it's a bit pretentious for someone to include Dr. in his/her user name...so they're curious as to whether it's a legitimate doctorate or a "diploma mill" doctorate degree.

Lets be real...we do get our fair share of pretenders around here.
I only use it because in my circle of influence this is how I am referred to.. so its sort of what I'm used to
Fair enough.

But don't be surprised if you're asked the question again many more times on AFF... a couple of times a month, maybe.

Timmy
07-20-2008, 03:52 PM
So, where'd you get your doctorate?

:tease

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:53 PM
If I may speak frankly...

Maybe because some may have thought it's a bit pretentious for someone to include Dr. in his/her user name...so they're curious as to whether it's a legitimate doctorate or a "diploma mill" doctorate degree.

Lets be real...we do get our fair share of pretenders around here.

Fair enough.

But don't be surprised if you're asked the question again many more times on AFF... a couple of times a month, maybe.

Fair enough... I don't even think of it.. its just how I'm referred to now with most of my aquaintences... I only find the title offensive to the Apostolic people... folks of other religious persuasions never give me a hard time about it.... I don't know why

SDG
07-20-2008, 03:55 PM
Dr. Vaughn is this the school you got your BA in Business Administration?

http://www.vision.edu/

Michael Phelps
07-20-2008, 03:56 PM
Fair enough... I don't even think of it.. its just how I'm referred to now with most of my aquaintences... I only find the title offensive to the Apostolic people... folks of other religious persuasions never give me a hard time about it.... I don't know why

There is a difference in "offended" and "suspicious".

As TR has stated, it does seem a bit pretentious. But, to each his own, and if you went thru the process of completing the studies, you should call yourself whatever you want to be called!

However, my doctor much prefers it when I call him by his first name. As does my dentist and my chiropractor.

I have yet to find a true doctor who asks to be referred to as "Doctor".

But, that's just me.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:58 PM
Dr. Vaughn is this the school you got your BA in Business Administration?

http://www.vision.edu/

Pear River COmmunity College... dont know the website, right off hand

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 03:59 PM
Vision is where my Theology work was done

TRFrance
07-20-2008, 04:00 PM
Fair enough... I don't even think of it.. its just how I'm referred to now with most of my aquaintences... I only find the title offensive to the Apostolic people... folks of other religious persuasions never give me a hard time about it.... I don't know why
Well, I do notice that titles are less prevalent in UPC/Apostolic circles than other religious persuasions. That might have something to do with it.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:00 PM
There is a difference in "offended" and "suspicious".

As TR has stated, it does seem a bit pretentious. But, to each his own, and if you went thru the process of completing the studies, you should call yourself whatever you want to be called!

However, my doctor much prefers it when I call him by his first name. As does my dentist and my chiropractor.

I have yet to find a true doctor who asks to be referred to as "Doctor".

But, that's just me.

I call everyone of my dcotors by their hardearned titles..... its a slap in a professionals face to not acknowledge their level of achievement... if you and I were on a more personal relationship of course I would tell you to call me by my first name....

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:01 PM
Yep,, here's your answer

go to the search button and research... and be fair.. because someone thats not seeing this will ask the same thing again of me in an hour... I really do tire of answering the question.....

You know what.. forget it.... one day I WILL QUIT answering this question though.. I keep promisng myself that

Associates - Pearl River College, Pearl River, La
BA - Vision University, Ramona California
MA - Vision University, Ramona California
Ph.D. - Regents University, Virgina Beach, Va

and yes, all accredited... bye the way.. why am I the only on here who has to answer these questions?

Randy, no offense brother.. again all of these questions have been talked about in detail on other threads.. you can easily search for them

for your sake I will answer yet again

My BA is in Business Admin
My MA is in Theology
My Ph.D. is Doctorate of Philosophy

I have an unearned Doctorate, granted in Theology

Pear River COmmunity College... dont know the website, right off hand

I'm confused you said you got your BA at Vision? And that your BA is in Business Admin ... Yet Vision does not offer such a degree?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:01 PM
Well, I do notice that titles are less prevalent in UPC/Apostolic circles than other religious persuasions. That might have something to do with it.

I believe so.. even terms like Bishop or Apostle or even Prophet are never spoken in their ranks.. Pastor & Evangelist is about all they use

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:02 PM
I'm confused you said you got your BA iat Vision? And that your BA is in Business Admin ... Yet Vision does not offer such a degree?

VISION is THEOLOGICAL

PEARL RIVER is where I earned my BA

I had to earn my THEOLOGY BA at vision before I could do my Masters... sheesh brother.. call Stan Dekovan.. college Dean and ask him to fax you my transcripts.. the conversation is old

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 04:03 PM
I call everyone of my dcotors by their hardearned titles..... its a slap in a professionals face to not acknowledge their level of achievement... if you and I were on a more personal relationship of course I would tell you to call me by my first name....

I had a good friend who was a neurologist -yes, an honest to God brain surgeon. I called him "Joe".
(I say "had" because he died of cancer several years ago.....)

Michael Phelps
07-20-2008, 04:04 PM
I call everyone of my dcotors by their hardearned titles..... its a slap in a professionals face to not acknowledge their level of achievement... if you and I were on a more personal relationship of course I would tell you to call me by my first name....

Well, it's not a slap in the face when they request to be called by their first names..........I've found that people who are secure with who they are don't necessarily need titles to validate their sense of self worth.

And, that's not directed at you, please understand.

I learned a long time ago, if you have to tell people you're the boss, you're probably not.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:05 PM
Keyword there is GOOD FRIEND...... Im from the old school.. I still call a preacher,.. Reverend... and any professional by their titles...

Counsellor
Your Honor

I just believe all levels of respect are being lost.... never call a preacher without saying Bro. before his name... its my attempt to keep some level of respect for others in my life

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 04:05 PM
Well, it's not a slap in the face when they request to be called by their first names..........I've found that people who are secure with who they are don't necessarily need titles to validate their sense of self worth.

And, that's not directed at you, please understand.

I learned a long time ago, if you have to tell people you're the boss, you're probably not.

It is the whole issue with those who demand respect, versus those who earn it.....

Michael Phelps
07-20-2008, 04:05 PM
I believe so.. even terms like Bishop or Apostle or even Prophet are never spoken in their ranks.. Pastor & Evangelist is about all they use

Which raises the question, how were the Apostles addressed in scripture?

Is it scriptural to refer to someone by titles?

Luke was a physician, and yet the Bible never refers to him as "Dr. Luke".

Just food for thought here...........

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:07 PM
Well, it's not a slap in the face when they request to be called by their first names..........I've found that people who are secure with who they are don't necessarily need titles to validate their sense of self worth.

And, that's not directed at you, please understand.

I learned a long time ago, if you have to tell people you're the boss, you're probably not.

Agreed,, if I remember I never asked you to call me Doctor.. call me anything.. However.. many years of hard work earned me my title and I'm not quite ready to discard of it..... sorry if I'm proud of my accomplishments... your talking to a man who came from a family with NO MONEY.. no graduates... and was the last person who should have the title Dr in our family...... although I hold no pride in myself... I am proud of the accomplishment...

Nahum
07-20-2008, 04:07 PM
VISION is THEOLOGICAL

PEARL RIVER is where I earned my BA

I had to earn my THEOLOGY BA at vision before I could do my Masters... sheesh brother.. call Stan Dekovan.. college Dean and ask him to fax you my transcripts.. the conversation is old


Wow, that's the first time I've heard of a community college granting four year degrees.

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 04:07 PM
Keyword there is GOOD FRIEND...... Im from the old school.. I still call a preacher,.. Reverend... and any professional by their titles...

Counsellor
Your Honor

I just believe all levels of respect are being lost.... never call a preacher without saying Bro. before his name... its my attempt to keep some level of respect for others in my life

Point taken. There are those who I call "Bro" before their name simply because they are old school and I don't wish to offend.... But they have also earned my respect through achievement AND humbleness.

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:08 PM
VISION is THEOLOGICAL

PEARL RIVER is where I earned my BA

I had to earn my THEOLOGY BA at vision before I could do my Masters... sheesh brother.. call Stan Dekovan.. college Dean and ask him to fax you my transcripts.. the conversation is old

But you said you earned an associates at Pearl ...

is this the community college you earned your BA in Business Administration?

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prcc.edu%2F&ei=37aDSIGZDpGe8QT2pcnoCw&usg=AFQjCNHbI_31wfGps2dkl2Nn3Obxm3je6A&sig2=Zrb4P5AROeAxSr8-2LI5sQ

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 04:08 PM
Agreed,, if I remember I never asked you to call me Doctor.. call me anything.. However.. many years of hard work earned me my title and I'm not quite ready to discard of it..... sorry if I'm proud of my accomplishments... your talking to a man who came from a family with NO MONEY.. no graduates... and was the last person who should have the title Dr in our family...... although I hold no pride in myself... I am proud of the accomplishment...

You SHOULD be proud of your accomplishments. There is nothing wrong with that -take it from someone who lives with someone who went through it. Phd level biology and chemistry courses are MURDER!

RandyWayne
07-20-2008, 04:09 PM
Wow, that's the first time I've heard of a community college granting four year degrees.

More and more are. There are technical colleges in our area giving BA's in nursing now as well as computer science.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:09 PM
Wow, that's the first time I've heard of a community college granting four year degrees.

Go check it out Dc.. the four year degree can be earned at their extention campus.. which is at the University of Mississippi... unique situation... travel was a problem for many of the rural people in that area and it was set up that way... they are actually changing that this year or next and people will not have that ability

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:11 PM
USM does... and you can do your USM classes at PRC... trust me my mother got her Bachelors in nursing there as well

Steve Epley
07-20-2008, 04:13 PM
Fair enough... I don't even think of it.. its just how I'm referred to now with most of my aquaintences... I only find the title offensive to the Apostolic people... folks of other religious persuasions never give me a hard time about it.... I don't know why

I have a friend who is a Dr. his doctorates arein World History, French, English he teaches those at M'boro,Tn. I call him Dr. Mobley. He also is an Apostolic preacher.

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:13 PM
Yep,, here's your answer

go to the search button and research... and be fair.. because someone thats not seeing this will ask the same thing again of me in an hour... I really do tire of answering the question.....

You know what.. forget it.... one day I WILL QUIT answering this question though.. I keep promisng myself that

Associates - Pearl River College, Pearl River, La
BA - Vision University, Ramona California
MA - Vision University, Ramona California
Ph.D. - Regents University, Virgina Beach, Va

and yes, all accredited... bye the way.. why am I the only on here who has to answer these questions?

Randy, no offense brother.. again all of these questions have been talked about in detail on other threads.. you can easily search for them

for your sake I will answer yet again

My BA is in Business Admin
My MA is in Theology
My Ph.D. is Doctorate of Philosophy

I have an unearned Doctorate, granted in Theology

Pear River COmmunity College... dont know the website, right off hand

I'm confused you said you got your BA iat Vision? And that your BA is in Business Admin ... Yet Vision does not offer such a degree?VISION is THEOLOGICAL

PEARL RIVER is where I earned my BA

I had to earn my THEOLOGY BA at vision before I could do my Masters... sheesh brother.. call Stan Dekovan.. college Dean and ask him to fax you my transcripts.. the conversation is old

I'm still confused ...Was the BA or the Associates in Business at Pearl River?
Obviously the LA next to Pearl River is an MS ... correct? typo?

Michael Phelps
07-20-2008, 04:16 PM
I'm confused you said you got your BA iat Vision? And that your BA is in Business Admin ... Yet Vision does not offer such a degree?

I'm still confused ...Was the BA or the Associates in Business at Pearl River?
Obviously the LA next to Pearl River is an MS ... correct? typo?

There are both - Pearl River is on the border of LA and MS.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:16 PM
I'm confused you said you got your BA iat Vision? And that your BA is in Business Admin ... Yet Vision does not offer such a degree?

I'm still confused ...Was the BA or the Associates in Business at Pearl River?
Obviously the LA next to Pearl River is an MS ... correct? typo?

Pearl River, Ms.. its 5 miles from the Lousiana line.. so... forgive the error

USM offers their Business Ad program through Pearl River.. the campus extension is at Pearl River.. so are all the RN programs which offer Bachelors.. offered at the PRC campus.... My associates and Bachelors was earned at the PRC campus.. .the BA was LEGALLy rendered through USM but it was done at PRC.... it works for those of us who couldn't drive to Hattiesburg every other day and could live on campus....

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:18 PM
There are both - Pearl River is on the border of LA and MS.

He's just digging.. has no clue where its located... you can call is LA or Ms and be correct... let him keep on,, thats just Dan for ya

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:19 PM
VISION is THEOLOGICAL

PEARL RIVER is where I earned my BA

I had to earn my THEOLOGY BA at vision before I could do my Masters... sheesh brother.. call Stan Dekovan.. college Dean and ask him to fax you my transcripts.. the conversation is old

Pearl River, Ms.. its 5 miles from the Lousiana line.. so... forgive the error

USM offers their Business Ad program through Pearl River.. the campus extension is at Pearl River.. so are all the RN programs which offer Bachelors.. offered at the PRC campus.... My associates and Bachelors was earned at the PRC campus.. .the BA was LEGALLy rendered through USM but it was done at PRC.... it works for those of us who couldn't drive to Hattiesburg every other day and could live on campus....

So you have 2 BA's? One from Pearl River and/or USM .... the other from Vision?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:21 PM
So you have 2 BA's? One from Pearl River and/or USM .... the other from Vision?

Yes,. but the vision BA was work required for my MA.. therefore I mention my business BA rather than the Vision BA.... or I could have been real pretentious and said

Associates
Bachelors
Bachelors
Master
Doctorate

I felt like it might have been overkill... but to answer your question.. my theology is with Vision in both BA & MA,,

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:24 PM
Can you please point me where Ole Miss offers it's BA in Biz Admin extension course at Pearl River?

They seem to be offering only at South Haven and Tupelo?
http://www.olemissbusiness.com/Academic%20Programs/Undergraduate/Branch-CampusPrograms.htm

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:25 PM
Can you please point me where Ole Miss offers it's BA in Biz Admin extension course at Pearl River?

They seem to be offering only at South Haven and Tupelo?
http://www.olemissbusiness.com/Academic%20Programs/Undergraduate/Branch-CampusPrograms.htm

Dan,,, this was six years ago....

Tell you what brother.. call Judy Dekerlagand in Student Services... ask her where Shane Vaughn worked on his Bachelors.... she's a personal friend....

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:26 PM
Yes,. but the vision BA was work required for my MA.. therefore I mention my business BA rather than the Vision BA.... or I could have been real pretentious and said

Associates
Bachelors
Bachelors
Master
Doctorate

I felt like it might have been overkill... but to answer your question.. my theology is with Vision in both BA & MA,,

And the other Doctorate that you mentioned ... How old are you?

TRFrance
07-20-2008, 04:29 PM
Dan, is he allowed to leave the chamber now?
...or is the inquisition still under way? :ursofunny

http://www.lakesideschool.org/studentweb/worldhistory/reformation/images/inquisition.jpg

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:30 PM
Dan,,, this was six years ago....

Tell you what brother.. call Judy Dekerlagand in Student Services... ask her where Shane Vaughn worked on his Bachelors.... she's a personal friend....

Asking her where you worked on you Bachelor's does not tell me where you received the BA ... I will try to find her contact info.

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:30 PM
Dan, is he allowed to leave the chamber now?
...or is the inquisition still under way? :ursofunny

http://www.lakesideschool.org/studentweb/worldhistory/reformation/images/inquisition.jpg

Maybe. :bigbaby

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:32 PM
I commend you for having 6 college degrees by age 35

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:36 PM
Asking her where you worked on you Bachelor's does not tell me where you received the BA ... I will try to find her contact info.

That's sick dude.. seriously who has that much "non life" to worry about someone elses education?

with that said... be my guest

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:37 PM
I commend you for having 6 college degrees by age 35

Graduated from Private ACE school at 16,, it helped

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:39 PM
Did you get your 2cd doctorate at Vision also?

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:40 PM
Graduated from Private ACE school at 16,, it helped

Don't know how you do it ... ? Married ... w/ kids ... ministry and several businesses.

I barely could finish my Masters

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:41 PM
Now wait a second you have 3 doctorates don't you?

From an old thread ...

TRFrance... how many times must I answer this question? respectfully

Doctorate of Psychology, Regents University, Virginia Beach, Va May 2008
Doctorate of Theology, Vision University, Ramona, Ca June 2006

Honorary Doctorate, Christian Life College

I hope that helps

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:43 PM
No the granted doctorate is not from Regents

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:44 PM
When did CLC stop offering graduate degrees?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:48 PM
What are you talking about?

Dr. Saundra Jones Seale is the dean of Christian life college a personal friend.. she granted me a theology doctorate. .. what are you talking about?

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:50 PM
What are you talking about?

Dr. Saundra Jones Seale is the dean of Christian life college a personal friend.. she granted me a theology doctorate. .. what are you talking about?

Maybe we speak of a different CLC?

In Pentecostal circles CLC is in Stockton, CA. Hence, the question.

Where is your 3rd CLC doctorate school located?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:50 PM
Brother.. again.. I have ONE EARNED DOCTARATE,. many friend in Christian Education work.. that have granted me degrees.... one was for a book I wrote many years ago..... I do not list those degrees when asked about my education... nor should I have to

Dr. Stan Dekovan is also a very personal friend at VIsion.. he has granted me degrees based on a lifetime of ministry.. after I earned my Masters there

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:51 PM
It was in New orleans before the storm under the jurisprudence of Faith Church and Dr. Charles Greene... I'm not sure where they are located now

Rev
07-20-2008, 04:52 PM
It was in New orleans before the storm under the jurisprudence of Faith Church and Dr. Charles Greene... I'm not sure where they are located now

Go over to the Herodia thread and see the junk that dr is puting out!

SDG
07-20-2008, 04:53 PM
Brother.. again.. I have ONE EARNED DOCTARATE,. many friend in Christian Education work.. that have granted me degrees.... one was for a book I wrote many years ago..... I do not list those degrees when asked about my education... nor should I have to

Dr. Stan Dekovan is also a very personal friend at VIsion.. he has granted me degrees based on a lifetime of ministry.. after I earned my Masters there

Sir, please understand my confusion this post from an old thread indicates 2 doctorates ... which appear to be earned ... and 1 honorary ...

TRFrance... how many times must I answer this question? respectfully

Doctorate of Psychology, Regents University, Virginia Beach, Va May 2008
Doctorate of Theology, Vision University, Ramona, Ca June 2006

Honorary Doctorate, Christian Life College

I hope that helps

So you earned your 1 Regents doctorate ...

And the 2 others (Vision and CLC) were given to you based on you lifetime of work, correct?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 04:58 PM
Again... I have only 1 EARNED Doctorate.... then of course my MA, BA & Associates was earned.... also with a BA at VISION to satisfy my MA entrance requirements....

SDG
07-20-2008, 05:00 PM
What are you talking about?

Dr. Saundra Jones Seale is the dean of Christian life college a personal friend.. she granted me a theology doctorate. .. what are you talking about?

Is this the institution Dr. Seale works for ...

http://crisisinstitute.org/page6.html

Which CLC does she teach out of ?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 05:04 PM
Before Katrina, it was in New Orleans.. at the auspices of Faith Church

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 05:04 PM
Dan, why does my life matter so much to a stranger

SDG
07-20-2008, 05:07 PM
Dan, why does my life matter so much to a stranger

Is this a philosophical question?

TRFrance
07-20-2008, 05:10 PM
Dan, why does my life matter so much to a stranger
Dr V... Dan is obviously more aggressive on this issue than most of us care to be.

But I dont think trying to flesh out inconsistencies or possible discrepancies in somebody's stated credentials is necessarily a bad thing to do.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 05:13 PM
Dr V... Dan is obviously more aggressive on this issue than most of us care to be.

But I dont think trying to flesh out inconsistencies or possible discrepancies in somebody's stated credentials is necessarily a bad thing to do.

eventually... you give it up.. you go on with your life... afte all what does my credentials matter to him...

SDG
07-20-2008, 05:15 PM
Is this the institution Dr. Seale works for ...

http://crisisinstitute.org/page6.html

Which CLC does she teach out of ?

Bump.

TRFrance
07-20-2008, 05:20 PM
eventually... you give it up.. you go on with your life... afte all what does my credentials matter to him...
Well, I cant speak for him...but maybe he feels he's on to something. (?)

I must say this all has become mildly amusing to me.:bubble

ReformedDave
07-20-2008, 05:23 PM
eventually... you give it up.. you go on with your life... afte all what does my credentials matter to him...

You sure let those guys sucker you in. I would have quit 9 pages ago.......:tease

StMark
07-20-2008, 05:25 PM
Dan,

Has his answered sufficed or do you have a feeling
something is not clean in the milk??

I'm with France on this one - amusing

TRFrance
07-20-2008, 05:26 PM
You sure let those guys sucker you in. I would have quit 9 pages ago.......:tease
http://www.remedybail.com/images/defendant_jumpsuit_court.jpg

ReformedDave
07-20-2008, 05:27 PM
http://www.remedybail.com/images/defendant_jumpsuit_court.jpg

Now that's funny:ursofunny

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 05:28 PM
You guys have galls.... do you really give a care?

Dan ,, I answered your question about Dr. Seale

Call her.. she's in Lone Oak, Tx and then after you have spoken with her to confirm my credentials,,, try getting a life brother.. seriously I have never seen anyone care so much about something that matters nothing to them

SDG
07-20-2008, 05:31 PM
You guys have galls.... do you really give a care?

Dan ,, I answered your question about Dr. Seale

Call her.. she's in Lone Oak, Tx and then after you have spoken with her to confirm my credentials,,, try getting a life brother.. seriously I have never seen anyone care so much about something that matters nothing to them

Bro ... I'm just trying to figure out how you got 7 college degrees by age 35 ... that's all ... especially when some of the programs you've discussed don't exist anymore ...

Tell you what Vision ... might be a distinct possibility for me in getting my 2cd BA and MA and Doctorate in a crunch.

TRFrance
07-20-2008, 05:33 PM
You guys have galls.... do you really give a care?

Dan ,, I answered your question about Dr. Seale

Call her.. she's in Lone Oak, Tx and then after you have spoken with her to confirm my credentials,,, try getting a life brother.. seriously I have never seen anyone care so much about something that matters nothing to them
Lighten up, Doc.
I don't think anyone here is taking this too seriously, except maybe Dan.

And if everything is legit, as you say, then who cares if he chooses to call Dr. Seale, or whoever? If he chooses to waste precious minutes of his life doing that, then that's his issue.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 05:37 PM
Lighten up, Doc.
I don't think anyone here is taking this too seriously, except maybe Dan.

And if everything is legit, as you say, then who cares if he chooses to call Dr. Seale, or whoever? If he chooses to waste precious minutes of his life doing that, then that's his issue.

Agreed. Ill just ignore him... its getting old anyhow... let him call all the folks he wants.. just hope he's got the Sprint Unimited Plan

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 05:38 PM
Bro ... I'm just trying to figure out how you got 7 college degrees by age 35 ... that's all ... especially when some of the programs you've discussed don't exist anymore ...

Tell you what Vision ... might be a distinct possibility for me in getting my 2cd BA and MA and Doctorate in a crunch.

Vision is a great school with great leadership

Rico
07-20-2008, 05:41 PM
I haven't read every post in this thread, but this is my opinion. Vaughn chose to put the Dr. in front of his name to exert his superiority over the rest of us from the gitgo. It was his way of letting anyone who reads his threads know his opinion should be valued over others.

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 05:43 PM
I haven't read every post in this thread, but this is my opinion. Vaughn chose to put the Dr. in front of his name to exert his superiority over the rest of us from the gitgo. It was his way of letting anyone who reads his threads know his opinion should be valued over others.

Thanks for your insight RICO... gotta love that scripture about not judging someone....

Rico
07-20-2008, 05:44 PM
Thanks for your insight RICO... gotta love that scripture about not judging someone....

You've earned it, Vaughn.

SDG
07-20-2008, 05:53 PM
Vision is a great school with great leadership

http://a945.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_6d213eff920d7530b9a37cd66a8af948.jpg

Was this when you graduated from CLC (Faith Church, New Orleans, LA?)...

under Dr. Greene or when Dr. Saunders awarded you the honorary doctorate?

Rev
07-20-2008, 05:57 PM
Thanks for your insight RICO... gotta love that scripture about not judging someone....

(1Co 2:15) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Rev
07-20-2008, 06:02 PM
I haven't read every post in this thread, but this is my opinion. Vaughn chose to put the Dr. in front of his name to exert his superiority over the rest of us from the gitgo. It was his way of letting anyone who reads his threads know his opinion should be valued over others.

Yes and if I'm a dr and a Greek word does not mean what I want it to mean I can just find some word "akin" to it that does.

That's like some people think that they are "akin" to apes.

Kay B
07-20-2008, 06:38 PM
http://a945.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_6d213eff920d7530b9a37cd66a8af948.jpg

Was this when you graduated from CLC (Faith Church, New Orleans, LA?)...

under Dr. Greene or when Dr. Saunders awarded you the honorary doctorate?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d25/peaches59/Animals/Animated%20Animals/hounddog.gif

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 07:28 PM
http://a945.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_6d213eff920d7530b9a37cd66a8af948.jpg

Was this when you graduated from CLC (Faith Church, New Orleans, LA?)...

under Dr. Greene or when Dr. Saunders awarded you the honorary doctorate?

Poor Dan... this was actually me just after giving the keynote address at one of their graduations... keeping digging through the picture poor soul and you will see me giving the address.....

Man,, this is fun

Whole Hearted
07-20-2008, 08:28 PM
Ever learning, but never.......

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 08:37 PM
Ever learning, but never.......

Have you ever thought that it might apply to you as well... you see every man is right in his own eyes.. and yes that includes you

Rev
07-20-2008, 09:40 PM
Poor Dan... this was actually me just after giving the keynote address at one of their graduations... keeping digging through the picture poor soul and you will see me giving the address.....

Man,, this is fun

You preached in that garb? No wonder you can't get excited.

ManOfWord
07-20-2008, 10:05 PM
DV, please don't take too much offense. It is just that we have seen so many people come here and purport to be something they are not. The only thing any of us have here is our integrity. Some are just wanting to make sure you're legit when many have come here and haven't been. If you're legit, you have nothing to fear, rest assured. :D

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 10:11 PM
DV, please don't take too much offense. It is just that we have seen so many people come here and purport to be something they are not. The only thing any of us have here is our integrity. Some are just wanting to make sure you're legit when many have come here and haven't been. If you're legit, you have nothing to fear, rest assured. :D

ManofWord... I have no fear... just makes no sense to me how someone can be so interested in a complete stranger.. that they would spend any amount of time... trying to prove someones legitimacy when it effects them none at all.... but oh well... to each his own

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 10:12 PM
You preached in that garb? No wonder you can't get excited.

Rev..... ever been to a graduation? The garb comes with the territory.. and no I didn't preach.. I SPOKE.. it was a keynote address... not a church service

U376977
07-20-2008, 10:21 PM
Good Lord, 12 pages of this stuff!! I can't believe it? And I read the whole thread. Tells you how NOT busy I am on a Sunday night--Monday morning.

If you tell me you have an earned Doctor, I choose to believe it. What is the big deal if it is not earned?

I preach in a lot of African American churches (oneness and Trinity), and generally, they are more into titles than our churches. I have been called "Dr." so many times. Just becuase I normally quote 30-50 scriptures while preaching. "Dr." is an honorary title--it shows respect. I have been called, an "apostle, prophet, evangelist, elder, ambassador, missionary, as well as false prophet, religious con, womanizer, etc."

I am so beyond titles, whether one uses them or not. It is something that should be ignored, my opinion.

Someone start a thread about obscure titles of the Lord, and what they mean. Now that would actually BE INTERESTING!

Hoovie
07-20-2008, 10:27 PM
DV, please don't take too much offense. It is just that we have seen so many people come here and purport to be something they are not. The only thing any of us have here is our integrity. Some are just wanting to make sure you're legit when many have come here and haven't been. If you're legit, you have nothing to fear, rest assured. :D

Right.

Dr Vaughn, you may have shared this already, but I am curious - how are you utilizing the education you have earned?

Scott Hutchinson
07-20-2008, 10:29 PM
Was the DR. a nurse before he became a doctor ?

Scott Hutchinson
07-20-2008, 10:30 PM
I like divinity candy does that make me a doctor of divinity ?

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 10:34 PM
Right.

Dr Vaughn, you may have shared this already, but I am curious - how are you utilizing the education you have earned?

Thanks for the question...

My Doctoarate has allowed our ministry in Jerusalem to earn government recognition for a Bible School there.. where we have received their version of accredidation by the State of Israel and as such are conducting daily Bible School there for the Christians.. preparing them for ministry

U376977
07-20-2008, 11:08 PM
Thanks for the question...

My Doctoarate has allowed our ministry in Jerusalem to earn government recognition for a Bible School there.. where we have received their version of accredidation by the State of Israel and as such are conducting daily Bible School there for the Christians.. preparing them for ministry

Fasinating ministry. Is it for converted Jews? What is the name of the ministry there? I am curious because I did some work for a ministry that was the American liason for the Knessett's CAC... I met so many people in that regard. It was an interesting 2 years of my life.

B_Kendrick
07-20-2008, 11:36 PM
I think he got it in zoology...that is how he was able to classify us Pentecostals as hogs maybe?

Hey, that was pretty good... :ursofunny

Dr. Vaughn
07-20-2008, 11:47 PM
Fasinating ministry. Is it for converted Jews? What is the name of the ministry there? I am curious because I did some work for a ministry that was the American liason for the Knessett's CAC... I met so many people in that regard. It was an interesting 2 years of my life.

It's actually for both brother.. we have several Jews.. some even Hasidic... we are affiliated with the former ministry of Sis. Ruth Heflin there.. she had a prayer chapel that God opened up for us... and since her passing we have now began a Bible School there

SDG
07-20-2008, 11:52 PM
If I were to get a BA, MA and Doctorate at Vision ... would those degrees be regionally accredited?

Obispo Matador
07-20-2008, 11:56 PM
Hermano DA,

I remember when Dr. Vaughn came to preach in Mexico when he was just a young man.
Cut him some slack, vato.

Paz de Cristo,
OM

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:03 AM
If I were to get a BA, MA and Doctorate at Vision ... would those degrees be regionally accredited?

Dan.. Regents accepted some of my credits from Vision and rejected a few... so I have no idea.. I do know that another college I am looking at now to do possibly start working on my next degree is accepting their credits in total... so I don't know how it would work for you

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:03 AM
Hermano DA,

I remember when Dr. Vaughn came to preach in Mexico when he was just a young man.
Cut him some slack, vato.

Paz de Cristo,
OM

Are you kidding or being serious?

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:14 AM
Sir,

Some more questions. I know you have clarified that your earned degree from Regent is a Doctorate in Philosophy ... not a Doctorate in Psychology ... as you state here:
TRFrance... how many times must I answer this question? respectfully

Doctorate of Psychology, Regents University, Virginia Beach, Va May 2008
Doctorate of Theology, Vision University, Ramona, Ca June 2006

Honorary Doctorate, Christian Life College

I hope that helps

You also state that Vision awarded you a Doctorate in Theology ... However they do not offer a Doctorate in Theology ... but rather a Doctorate in Ministry ... correct?
http://www.vision.edu/degrees/dmin

You're myspace indicates you have a Th.D? What would that Th. D. stand for?
http://www.myspace.com/revshanevaughn

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:22 AM
Sir,

Some more questions. I know you have clarified that your earned degree from Regent is a Doctorate in Philosophy ... not a Doctorate in Pschology ... as you state here:


You also state that Vision awarded you a Doctorate in Theology ... However they do not offer a Doctorate in Theology ... but rather a Doctorate in Ministry ... correct?
http://www.vision.edu/degrees/dmin

You're myspace indicates you have a Th.D? What would that Th. D. stand for?
http://www.myspace.com/revshanevaughn





Vision recently changed their degree programs... previously they offered Theology....and thus my Th.D.... also the degree granted from Dr. Seale was also Th.D.

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:23 AM
Dan.. Regents accepted some of my credits from Vision and rejected a few... so I have no idea.. I do know that another college I am looking at now to do possibly start working on my next degree is accepting their credits in total... so I don't know how it would work for you

Sir,

Just to let you know Vision is not regionally accredited ...
http://www.vision.edu/about/accreditation


Vision International University is not accredited by a United States Department of Education Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) approved accrediting agency.
I am sorry to inform you of this ...

Just want to put your mind at rest ....

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:32 AM
Sir,

Just to let you know Vision is not regionally accredited ...
http://www.vision.edu/about/accreditation

I am sorry to inform you of this ...

Just want to put your mind at rest ....

Their commonwealth accredidation was accepted in the State of ISrael,, I was surprised... and because of their authorization by the state of California,, Lousiana accepted their credits at the college I am considering attending now.. and Regents accepted several of my credit hours from Vision....they are a very good school... and accredited by ABHE

pelathais
07-21-2008, 12:35 AM
Yep,, here's your answer

go to the search button and research... and be fair.. because someone thats not seeing this will ask the same thing again of me in an hour... I really do tire of answering the question.....

You know what.. forget it.... one day I WILL QUIT answering this question though.. I keep promisng myself that

Associates - Pearl River College, Pearl River, La
BA - Vision University, Ramona California
MA - Vision University, Ramona California
Ph.D. - Regents University, Virgina Beach, Va

and yes, all accredited... bye the way.. why am I the only on here who has to answer these questions?
Actually, Vision University is not accredited (http://www.vision.edu/about/accreditation#accreditation)- just FWIW.

Their commonwealth accredidation was accepted in the State of ISrael,, I was surprised... and because of their authorization by the state of California,, Lousiana accepted their credits at the college I am considering attending now.. and Regents accepted several of my credit hours from Vision....they are a very good school... and accredited by ABHE

I see Dan already mentioned that as I was posting. Also, just to clarify for you Vision is not accredited by ABHE according to their web site.

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:37 AM
Actually, Vision University is not accredited (http://www.vision.edu/about/accreditation#accreditation)- just FWIW.

that would be incorrect.. in all of the commonwealth they are fully accreddited also in.. Australia... Canada... the list goes on....

They are authorized by the State of California.. and that authorization is accepted in various states such as Louisiana....

Accredidation is pending with ABHE

pelathais
07-21-2008, 12:39 AM
that would be incorrect.. they are accredited by ABHE... in all of the commonwealth they are fully accreddited also in.. Australia... Canada... the list goes on....

They are authorized by the State of California.. and that authorization is accepted in various states such as Louisiana....
From the Vision University web site:

Association for Biblical Higher Education Affiliate Membership:
http://www.vision.edu/upload/image/lgoABHE.gifVision International University is an Affiliate member of the Association for Biblical Higher Education (ABHE) (http://www.abhe.org/), a US Department of Education Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) recognized accrediting agency. Affiliate Institutions are not accredited by the ABHE. Acceptance as an Affiliate institution with the ABHEis not equivalent to accreditation and does not guarantee that Vision International University will someday be accredited, but it does indicate that Vision International University has met an initial standard for ABHE recognition.

pelathais
07-21-2008, 12:40 AM
They underlined the word "not" themselves.

http://www.vision.edu/about/accreditation#accreditation

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:40 AM
Associates - Pearl River College, Pearl River, La
BA - Vision University, Ramona California
MA - Vision University, Ramona California
Ph.D. - Regents University, Virgina Beach, Va

and yes, all accredited... bye the way.. why am I the only on here who has to answer these questions?

They are not all accredited.

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:41 AM
From the Vision University web site:

Association for Biblical Higher Education Affiliate Membership:
http://www.vision.edu/upload/image/lgoABHE.gifVision International University is an Affiliate member of the Association for Biblical Higher Education (ABHE) (http://www.abhe.org/), a US Department of Education Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) recognized accrediting agency. Affiliate Institutions are not accredited by the ABHE. Acceptance as an Affiliate institution with the ABHEis not equivalent to accreditation and does not guarantee that Vision International University will someday be accredited, but it does indicate that Vision International University has met an initial standard for ABHE recognition.







From inside sources the acreddidation is very forthcoming....

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:42 AM
They are not all accredited.

Dan... where I needed to use is .. in Jerusalem it is recognized as accreddited.. anywhere in Canada,, the commonwealth it is accreddited... all I needed it for was to pass an application with ISrael for a Bible School..

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:43 AM
They are not all accredited.

If I remember correctly.. Regents is Accreddited.. not sure

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:44 AM
yes they underlined NOT.. .the integrity of the school in impeccable

pelathais
07-21-2008, 12:45 AM
From inside sources the acreddidation is very forthcoming....
From the university itself... It is "not accredited."

Your post above, that Daniel so garishly embolded should read... "All institutions may some day be accredited..."

It's a stickler to some, I'm sure; but if you are going to introduce yourself as "DR" you should be a little more honest about the accreditation of your schools.

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:45 AM
Dan... where I needed to use is .. in Jerusalem it is recognized as accreddited.. anywhere in Canada,, the commonwealth it is accreddited... all I needed it for was to pass an application with ISrael for a Bible School..


Point of order? Minor point.

Regents is accredited. It is in Virginia. Virginia is a commonwealth.

Vision is not accredited. It is Calfornia. Is CA a commonwealth???

pelathais
07-21-2008, 12:49 AM
If I remember correctly.. Regents is Accreddited.. not sure
Again, you said they were. Now you don't know. I don't mean to be harsh but you don't even seem to be an authority on yourself let alone the areas of study represented by your degrees.

And FWIW... Regents is accredited (http://www.regent.edu/about_us/overview/accreditation.cfm). It's that easy to find out. Why can't you answer the question like I just did?

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:51 AM
Vision recently changed their degree programs... previously they offered Theology....and thus my Th.D.... also the degree granted from Dr. Seale was also Th.D.

Recently changed there degrees when?

TRFrance... how many times must I answer this question? respectfully

Doctorate of Psychology, Regents University, Virginia Beach, Va May 2008
Doctorate of Theology, Vision University, Ramona, Ca June 2006

Honorary Doctorate, Christian Life College

I hope that helps

You claim you got your doctorate in Theology from Vision in 2006 ... yet in 2006 according Vision's 2006 Course Catalog they still only offered a Doctorate in Ministry.

http://www.vision.edu/support/handbook_extension.pdf

See page 28.

Makes no mention of such a degree offered.

pelathais
07-21-2008, 12:52 AM
Point of order? Minor point.

Regents is accredited. It is in Virginia. Virginia is a commonwealth.

Vision is not accredited. It is Calfornia. Is is CA a commonwealth
The "commonwealth" to which he was referring was the former British Empire's British Commonwealth... "Australia, Canada..."

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:53 AM
The "commonwealth" to which he was referring was the former British Empire's British Commonwealth... "Australia, Canada..."

Gotcha.

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:56 AM
Recently changed there degrees when?



You claim you got your doctorate in Theology from Vision in 2006 ... yet in 2006 according Vision's 2006 Course Catalog they still only offered a Doctorate in Ministry.

http://www.vision.edu/support/handbook_extension.pdf

See page 28.

Makes no mention of such a degree offered.



save yourself alot of work.. call Stan tomorrow and ask him when the theology program was changed.... great guy tell him I said hello

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:58 AM
Again, you said they were. Now you don't know. I don't mean to be harsh but you don't even seem to be an authority on yourself let alone the areas of study represented by your degrees.

And FWIW... Regents is accredited (http://www.regent.edu/about_us/overview/accreditation.cfm). It's that easy to find out. Why can't you answer the question like I just did?

Sir, I was being sarcastic about Regents.. thanks

SDG
07-21-2008, 01:00 AM
save yourself alot of work.. call Stan tomorrow and ask him when the theology program was changed.... great guy tell him I said hello

Was the 2006 catalog issued by the school ,on it's website, wrong? Yet still insist you got a Th D in 2006 from Vision ... ?

Who is Stan?

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:03 AM
Was the 2006 catalog issued by the school ,on it's website, wrong? Yet still insist you got a Th D in 2006 from Vision ... ?

Who is Stan?

Stan Dekovan,, University President.. personal friend and ministry supporter

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:05 AM
Was the 2006 catalog issued by the school ,on it's website, wrong? Yet still insist you got a Th D in 2006 from Vision ... ?

Who is Stan?

just to shut your poor soul up.. how do you post a picture on here... I will take a picture of the degree and post it.. maybe that will shut your harping up geez.....it says PLAINLY ... DOCTORATE OF THEOLOGy.. thats all I know dude

SDG
07-21-2008, 01:32 AM
Looks like reaching Stan or anyone else at Vision will have to wait ...

PLEASE NOTE: The Vision Offices will be closed for Summer Break from July 21st - August 10, 2008. Please send inquiries by email and our staff will respond when the school reopens.

the raven
07-21-2008, 01:42 AM
Looks like reaching Stan or anyone else at Vision will have to wait ...

PLEASE NOTE: The Vision Offices will be closed for Summer Break from July 21st - August 10, 2008. Please send inquiries by email and our staff will respond when the school reopens.



:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

I have a very weird sense of humor...that being said...this rejoinder was perfect!!!

SDG
07-21-2008, 10:54 AM
BUMP

StMark
07-21-2008, 10:59 AM
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SDG
07-21-2008, 11:04 AM
You okay, Marcus? :whistle :crazy :snapout

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 11:05 AM
funny stuff

Nahum
07-21-2008, 11:09 AM
Too funny!


Daniel is a great detective.

So is the doctor really a doctor, or is he just full of..............himself?

StMark
07-21-2008, 11:09 AM
You okay, Marcus? :whistle :crazy :snapout



THRILLED!!! :tease

Gotta tip my hat off to you and Pel on this one!
Good work!!! :thumbsup

rgcraig
07-21-2008, 11:10 AM
Too funny!


Daniel is a great detective.

So is the doctor really a doctor, or is he just full of..............himself?

Seems he might have the same type degree 1Corth had.

SDG
07-21-2008, 11:14 AM
Too funny!


Daniel is a great detective.

So is the doctor really a doctor, or is he just full of..............himself?

I assert he may be ... his Doctorate of Psychology ... I mean Philosophy seems to be earned as per Dr. V. ... at Regents College ... who accepted course work from his non-accredited degrees (BA and MA in Theology from Vision College)

Keeping in mind he suggested all his degrees were accredited. (Post #6)

His claims of having a granted Th. D ... a doctorate in Theology (2006) .... given to him by the school president for a lifetime of work ... from Vision is very suspect since their course catalog did not offer such a degree in '06, nor does the school offer one today. The school only offers a Doctorate in Ministry.

Dr. V has said that he also has a non-accredited honorary Th.D degree from a CLC (Faith Church, New Orleans ... destroyed during Katrina)

The BA from Pearl River community, in my opinion, is also unverifiable ... since this school does not offer such a degree ... nor is it an extension campus with Ole Miss as Dr. Vaughn has claimed. To his defense, he says it did offer one 6 years ago.

Nahum
07-21-2008, 11:16 AM
Seems he might have the same type degree 1Corth had.

Geez, if that is what higher education does for you..................I think I may choose to remain an uneducated redneck FOREVER!

SDG
07-21-2008, 11:27 AM
TRILLED!!! :tease

Gotta tip my hat off to you and Pel on this one!
Good work!!! :thumbsup

We had a special task force on this also ... especially a good researcher that helped late into the evening.

Rico
07-21-2008, 11:29 AM
According to Vaughn, his degrees were accepted by some group in Israel.

SDG
07-21-2008, 11:34 AM
Vision is a reputable theological school in it's own right ... like many Bible Colleges it is not regionally accredited ...

This by no means suggests that Dr. Vaughn is not a doctor only that there appears to be questions about the title of Th.D which apparently was awarded for a lifetime of ministry ... however Vision does not offer such a degree ... as of the documentation researched.

Ferd
07-21-2008, 11:40 AM
Vision is a reputable theological school in it's own right ... like many Bible Colleges it is not regionally accredited ...

This by no means suggests that Dr. Vaughn is not a doctor only that there appears to be questions about the title of Th.D which apparently was awarded for a lifetime of ministry ... however Vision does not offer such a degree ... as of the documentation researched.

How much life time does one need to have lived to get one of those.

has Dr. Vaughn lived that much life?


PS, I still havent gotten the answer to my burning question.

how was Adam supposed to get his children if Branham said he and Eve were never supposed to have carnal knowlege of each other....


no answer, asked several times.

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 11:49 AM
answer not forthcoming soon, lol,dt

StillStanding
07-21-2008, 11:59 AM
How much life time does one need to have lived to get one of those.

has Dr. Vaughn lived that much life?

I was thinking the same thing! A "lifetime" doctorate (achievement award) by the age of 35???????

Dude!!!!!!!!!! :tease

Rico
07-21-2008, 12:00 PM
I was thinking the same thing! A "lifetime" doctorate (achievement award) by the age of 35???????

Dude!!!!!!!!!! :tease

Maybe he's really really really really done a lot in his short time on Earth. :D

Ferd
07-21-2008, 12:06 PM
I am 38, pretty smart and i havent masterd my remote control yet! LOL!

Encryptus
07-21-2008, 12:08 PM
We had a special task force on this also ... especially a good researcher that helped late into the evening.


:highfive


:whistle

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:12 PM
How much life time does one need to have lived to get one of those.

has Dr. Vaughn lived that much life?


PS, I still havent gotten the answer to my burning question.

how was Adam supposed to get his children if Branham said he and Eve were never supposed to have carnal knowlege of each other....


no answer, asked several times.

So sorry.. never saw your question... it is hard to keep up sometimes... FERD.. respectfully we believe that Adam had the power of the Spoken Word... and as such was made God of this world... only lower than Yahweh... and before the curse we believe that like Jesus he was the perfect Son of God.... we find it ironic that Adam nor Eve were even aware of their nudity before the fall...

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:14 PM
I was thinking the same thing! A "lifetime" doctorate (achievement award) by the age of 35???????

Dude!!!!!!!!!! :tease

I am celebrating 20 years of ministry.. for some that is a lifetime... because of a very peculiar life having begun full time ministry at age 14... the people who knew me back then.. recognized a very unique gifting and I have graciously been awarded as such.

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 12:16 PM
well ok then

Margies3
07-21-2008, 12:16 PM
So sorry.. never saw your question... it is hard to keep up sometimes... FERD.. respectfully we believe that Adam had the power of the Spoken Word... and as such was made God of this world... only lower than Yahweh... and before the curse we believe that like Jesus he was the perfect Son of God.... we find it ironic that Adam nor Eve were even aware of their nudity before the fall...

I don't have no DR. before my name, but let me try to figure this out..........

Are you saying that Adam and Eve would have had children just by speaking them into being? Like, he would have said to Eve, "hey, Eve, how about if we have a new baby today?" and poof! a baby would have formed in her arms?

How much fun would that be?!

Rev
07-21-2008, 12:16 PM
I am celebrating 20 years of ministry.. for some that is a lifetime... because of a very peculiar life having begun full time ministry at age 14... the people who knew me back then.. recognized a very unique gifting and I have graciously been awarded as such.

a very unique gifting

What does that mean?

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 12:17 PM
well i am 48 and i just received my best award, my wife told me yesterday, i am a good man, that is enough till i hear him say well done, dt

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:17 PM
Dan.... I no longer feel like arguing the point.. if you will simply tell me how to post a photo here.. I will take a picture of the TH.D from Vision... and only hope that will settle your doubts.. don't know what else to do guys.... I think it's pretty sick that I, your brother in Christ would even have to stoop to such low levels of "self defense" against baseless attacks.. again tell me how to do it and I will gladly accept apologies once I have done so...

Blessings

P.S. I already know how the responses will go once the proof is posted... "I never said you DIDN't have a Th.D. from Vision,,, I just said it is doubtful and of course no apologies will be forthcoming because some folks are just never wrong in their own eyes"

Ferd
07-21-2008, 12:18 PM
So sorry.. never saw your question... it is hard to keep up sometimes... FERD.. respectfully we believe that Adam had the power of the Spoken Word... and as such was made God of this world... only lower than Yahweh... and before the curse we believe that like Jesus he was the perfect Son of God.... we find it ironic that Adam nor Eve were even aware of their nudity before the fall...

ahhh, at least I get an answer. Adam could "speak" children into existance.


nice.

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:20 PM
Maybe he's really really really really done a lot in his short time on Earth. :D

I am 38, pretty smart and i havent masterd my remote control yet! LOL!

I am celebrating 20 years of ministry.. for some that is a lifetime... because of a very peculiar life having begun full time ministry at age 14... the people who knew me back then.. recognized a very unique gifting and I have graciously been awarded as such.

The accomplishments of Dr. Vaughn are indeed commendable and remarkable considering the trying beginnings he's had early in his life .... I mean that.

From being baptized in Jesus name at age 4 ....
ordained into full time ministry at age 14

to graduating high school at 16 ...
and launching a world wide evangelistic ministry, with TV ties, at 16 also ...

attaining 7 degrees by age 35 ... including 3 doctorates

while ministering as a Pastor, Evangelist, Missionary, Author, w/ an international bible school opening in Jerusalem

and being a... husband, father and successful entrepreneur ...

leaves me feeling unaccomplished today.

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:21 PM
a very unique gifting

What does that mean?

Simply that by the time I was 18, sorry 17 Puerto Rico is a US territory, the Lord had allowed me to preach to 18 nations of the world... at 14 through 16 I preached many of the morning services at the Tioga, La, youth camps under the direction of Bro. David Hennigan....

before 18 our radio ministry was aired on 22 radio stations..... and several appearances on Television including TBN in Santa Anna......

Many people in my life felt that God had a unique touch on my life.... and those who thought that.. one was Dr. Stan Dekovan and he did indeed honor me with a granted TH.D from Vision....

Blessings

Rico
07-21-2008, 12:21 PM
Dan.... I no longer feel like arguing the point.. if you will simply tell me how to post a photo here.. I will take a picture of the TH.D from Vision... and only hope that will settle your doubts.. don't know what else to do guys.... I think it's pretty sick that I, your brother in Christ would even have to stoop to such low levels of "self defense" against baseless attacks.. again tell me how to do it and I will gladly accept apologies once I have done so...

Blessings

P.S. I already know how the responses will go once the proof is posted... "I never said you DIDN't have a Th.D. from Vision,,, I just said it is doubtful and of course no apologies will be forthcoming because some folks are just never wrong in their own eyes"

You need to realize that you are not the first one to post among us claiming to have a doctorate. Because of the phonies that have come before you, anyone claiming to have a doctorate gets questioned on it. My suggestion would be to talk with admin about changing your screen name, maybe to Bro. Vaughn. Otherwise, people are constantly going to be asking you about how you got your degree, where it's from, etc.

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 12:22 PM
really , well ok, no owe no apology i didnt say he didnt have nuttin, lol

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:23 PM
The accomplishments of Dr. Vaughn are indeed commendable and remarkable considering the trying beginnings he's had early in his life .... I mean that.

From being baptized in Jesus name at age 4 ....
ordained into full time ministry at age 14

to graduating high school at 16 ...
and launching a world wide evangelistic ministry, with TV ties, at 16 also ...

attaining 7 degrees by age 35 ... including 3 doctorates

while ministering as a Pastor, Evangelist, Missionary, Author, w/ an international bible school opening in Jerusalem

and being a... husband, father and successful entrepreneur ...

leaves me feeling unaccomplished today.

Daniel, I understand your being facetious.... However, if there were any sincere words there.. thanks brother... blessings

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:25 PM
You need to realize that you are not the first one to post among us claiming to have a doctorate. Because of the phonies that have come before you, anyone claiming to have a doctorate gets questioned on it. My suggestion would be to talk with admin about changing your screen name, maybe to Bro. Vaughn. Otherwise, people are constantly going to be asking you about how you got your degree, where it's from, etc.

RICO I will take your advice.. and do just that... thanks.. I do get tired of having to deal with it

StillStanding
07-21-2008, 12:25 PM
Daniel, I understand your being facetious.... However, if there were any sincere words there.. thanks brother... blessings
That doctorate in Psychology is paying off! :D

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:26 PM
That doctorate in Psychology is paying off! :D

That is a Doctorate in Philosophy ... the Doctorate in Psychology was a misprint posted by Dr. Vaughn ... later corrected when called on it.

Tyk
07-21-2008, 12:27 PM
Simply that by the time I was 18, sorry 17 Puerto Rico is a US territory, the Lord had allowed me to preach to 18 nations of the world... at 14 through 16 I preached many of the morning services at the Tioga, La, youth camps under the direction of Bro. David Hennigan....

before 18 our radio ministry was aired on 22 radio stations..... and several appearances on Television including TBN in Santa Anna......

Many people in my life felt that God had a unique touch on my life.... and those who thought that.. one was Dr. Stan Dekovan and he did indeed honor me with a granted TH.D from Vision....

Blessings


If I was this learned, this studied, this busy, and this "special" (and I'm dead serious.), I would not have time to spend - here - on this forum.

That isn't a joke or a slang to say this board isn't fun, useful, or "deep" enough.

Cindy
07-21-2008, 12:27 PM
Is your wife also a Dr? And if so what are her credentials?

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:28 PM
Daniel, I understand your being facetious.... However, if there were any sincere words there.. thanks brother... blessings

It is an impressive resume ...

Your thoughts on baptizing 4 year olds, Doctor?

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:28 PM
That is a Doctorate in Philosophy ... the Doctorate in Psychology was a misprint posted by Dr. Vaughn ... later corrected when called on it.

Dan,,, for the board to know my minor as I plainly told you was in Christian Psychology....

again,, directions for a picture please... its the only way I know to stop this charade that has literally turned into an inexcusable and tasteless witch hunt

Cindy
07-21-2008, 12:28 PM
That doctorate in Psychology is paying off! :D

Now if he could just spell.......:tease

Rev
07-21-2008, 12:29 PM
Is your wife also a Dr? And if so what are her credentials?

Those from TX are not allowed to ask questions today! Sorry.

Encryptus
07-21-2008, 12:29 PM
Dan.... I no longer feel like arguing the point.. if you will simply tell me how to post a photo here.. I will take a picture of the TH.D from Vision... and only hope that will settle your doubts.. don't know what else to do guys.... I think it's pretty sick that I, your brother in Christ would even have to stoop to such low levels of "self defense" against baseless attacks.. again tell me how to do it and I will gladly accept apologies once I have done so...

Blessings

P.S. I already know how the responses will go once the proof is posted... "I never said you DIDN't have a Th.D. from Vision,,, I just said it is doubtful and of course no apologies will be forthcoming because some folks are just never wrong in their own eyes"

Sincerely, respectfully, it hardly matters what you have a photo of when it turns out your "accredited" degree isn't, and the school itself does not even offer one does it?

So we have two honorary ThD from non-regionally accredited schools, which do not even offer them.

The sad thing is I honestly believe you would not be facing such a backlash if you did not feel the need to resort to puffery and claim the trump card in discussions because of superior academics....

Perhaps just stick to a discussion without "I have a masters, ThD, etc etc and they don't just pass them out" when apparently they do...

Just a thought.

Rico
07-21-2008, 12:30 PM
RICO I will take your advice.. and do just that... thanks.. I do get tired of having to deal with it

Even if there weren't any questions concerning your degree, having it wouldn't really buy you much around here. It's been my experience that people attain to a very respected level around here because of the content of their posts, not their credentials. Take Miss Brattified, for example. She is very much a respected poster around these parts, but doesn't have a wall full of degrees.

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:31 PM
It is an impressive resume ...

Your thoughts on baptizing 4 year olds, Doctor?


I have mixed emotions... although I know you really wernt looking for a real answer as you never seem to be able to be human and just STOP

I personally would not endorse baptizing someone that you.. but in my case it was very real for me and it was actually my Pastor.. Bro. Sartin in New Orleans, La.. UPC... that saw my passion for God in the altars.. while other kids would enjoy playing my passion was God.... I had a very powerful in encounter with God at 4.. in my bedroom to which my father was a witness... and it was decided by both of them that I indeed unlike a lot of children was ready to make a decision for baptism... it was the happiest day of my life... not that you were the slightest bit interested... but I always try to answer your questions

Cindy
07-21-2008, 12:32 PM
Those from TX are not allowed to ask questions today! Sorry.

:tease

How ya been?

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:32 PM
Dan,,, for the board to know my minor as I plainly told you was in Christian Psychology....

again,, directions for a picture please... its the only way I know to stop this charade that has literally turned into an inexcusable and tasteless witch hunt

Sir,

I am simply referring to your plain post to TR France ... about a Doctorate in Psychology in an older thread ...

TRFrance... how many times must I answer this question? respectfully

Doctorate of Psychology, Regents University, Virginia Beach, Va May 2008
Doctorate of Theology, Vision University, Ramona, Ca June 2006

Honorary Doctorate, Christian Life College

I hope that helps

TRFrance
07-21-2008, 12:34 PM
There is the smell of Haterate all over this thread right now...
http://www.twistedmasterpiece.com/images/product_images/haterade.gif

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 12:35 PM
that is funny jt, dt

Rico
07-21-2008, 12:36 PM
Dan,,, for the board to know my minor as I plainly told you was in Christian Psychology....

again,, directions for a picture please... its the only way I know to stop this charade that has literally turned into an inexcusable and tasteless witch hunt

It has started heading in that direction. In your defense, I'm kinda wishing it would stop. It's already been determined that the schools aren't accredited. That alone should be enough to put an end to it. But, this is AFF, and that's how the cookie crumbles around here. The unpopular get treated like dirt by the rest of us. Oooops! Did I say that? :lol

SDG
07-21-2008, 12:37 PM
I have mixed emotions... although I know you really wernt looking for a real answer as you never seem to be able to be human and just STOP

I personally would not endorse baptizing someone that you.. but in my case it was very real for me and it was actually my Pastor.. Bro. Sartin in New Orleans, La.. UPC... that saw my passion for God in the altars.. while other kids would enjoy playing my passion was God.... I had a very powerful in encounter with God at 4.. in my bedroom to which my father was a witness... and it was decided by both of them that I indeed unlike a lot of children was ready to make a decision for baptism... it was the happiest day of my life... not that you were the slightest bit interested... but I always try to answer your questions

I have problems remembering anything in much detail before 5 ... just me

Rev
07-21-2008, 12:38 PM
:tease

How ya been?

If you want the truth you will have to ask my wife.

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 12:49 PM
after 30 years i will say that we mostly baptize the kids when they get 8 or above and can explain baptism to the pastor so we know they know at least at that moment what it is, dt

Encryptus
07-21-2008, 12:49 PM
again,, directions for a picture please... its the only way I know to stop this charade that has literally turned into an inexcusable and tasteless witch hunt

Sincerely, respectfully, it hardly matters what you have a photo of when it turns out your "accredited" degree isn't, and the school itself does not even offer one does it?

So we have two honorary ThD from non-regionally accredited schools, which do not even offer them.

The sad thing is I honestly believe you would not be facing such a backlash if you did not feel the need to resort to puffery and claim the trump card in discussions because of superior academics....

Perhaps just stick to a discussion without "I have a masters, ThD, etc etc and they don't just pass them out" when apparently they do...

Just a thought.


Perhaps what would stop the "charade" and "witch hunt" would be to cease exaggerating your credentials and just stick to posting???

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 12:50 PM
the only way i have ever found to get people to stop questioning is to come clean, just my experience, dt

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:54 PM
Now if he could just spell.......:tease

Granny,,, you guys never back down do you? There is a human behind these post granny.... if I misspell it's only because I am typing so quickly to keep up with 4 different forums that I post on.. not because I cannot spell

Ferd
07-21-2008, 12:57 PM
I want to know how you went from being in a really good church (brother Sartin), being influenced by one of Louisiana's Giants (Rev. David Hennigan) to falling into the false doctrine/heracy of Branhamism>????


this very much bothers me.

and what years were you preaching Lousisana camps?

Ferd
07-21-2008, 12:58 PM
Granny,,, you guys never back down do you? There is a human behind these post granny.... if I misspell it's only because I am typing so quickly to keep up with 4 different forums that I post on.. not because I cannot spell

I simply cannot spell that well...im dyslexic.

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 12:59 PM
well ferd my friend that is true, but i have never read a post where you tried to insult cindy either, dt

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 12:59 PM
If I was this learned, this studied, this busy, and this "special" (and I'm dead serious.), I would not have time to spend - here - on this forum.

That isn't a joke or a slang to say this board isn't fun, useful, or "deep" enough.

r u kidding, this board is actually a HOOT

Ferd
07-21-2008, 01:00 PM
well ferd my friend that is true, but i have never read a post where you tried to insult cindy either, dt

I do like Cindy. she is nice.


So, when were you preaching La. Camps?

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:01 PM
Sincerely, respectfully, it hardly matters what you have a photo of when it turns out your "accredited" degree isn't, and the school itself does not even offer one does it?

So we have two honorary ThD from non-regionally accredited schools, which do not even offer them.

The sad thing is I honestly believe you would not be facing such a backlash if you did not feel the need to resort to puffery and claim the trump card in discussions because of superior academics....

Perhaps just stick to a discussion without "I have a masters, ThD, etc etc and they don't just pass them out" when apparently they do...

Just a thought.

Encryptus.. do you believe in fairness?

Then go through the post and show me ONE TIME where I ever threw my credentials out without being prodded or asked to do so.....

TRFrance
07-21-2008, 01:01 PM
I've heard of a 3 year old, and a 4 year old girl receiving the Holy Ghost before. So if someone is able to receive the Holy Ghost at that age, maybe it's not a problem for them to them to be baptized at that age also.

Rico
07-21-2008, 01:01 PM
Encryptus.. do you believe in fairness?

Then go through the post and show me ONE TIME where I ever threw my credentials out without being prodded or asked to do so.....

How about your screen name? :lol

Rico
07-21-2008, 01:02 PM
I've heard of a 3 year old, and a 4 year old girl receiving the Holy Ghost before. So if someone is able to receive the Holy Ghost at that age, maybe it's not a problem for them to them to be baptized also at that age also.

True.

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:05 PM
I want to know how you went from being in a really good church (brother Sartin), being influenced by one of Louisiana's Giants (Rev. David Hennigan) to falling into the false doctrine/heracy of Branhamism>????


this very much bothers me.

and what years were you preaching Lousisana camps?

Ferd,, it would have been when I was around 12 or thirteen because I preaced my first sermon for My Pastor.. Presbyter Gene Simpkins in Bogalusa, La.... and then he recommended to me to Bro. Hennigan... not sure of the exact years,, it was probably from ages 12 all the way up to 14... i then moved to Texas under the tutelage of Rev. Ken Gurley

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:06 PM
RICO.. getting to the screen name brother... oh bye the way,.. this is a no win war... once I change it.. then all those who have not read this thread will be asking for days.. WHY DID YOU CHANGE YOUR NAME.... no longer a doctor? I can only hear all the replys.. but yet.. Im getting there

SDG
07-21-2008, 01:07 PM
Ferd,, it would have been when I was around 12 or thirteen because I preaced my first sermon for My Pastor.. Presbyter Gene Simpkins in Bogalusa, La.... and then he recommended to me to Bro. Hennigan... not sure of the exact years,, it was probably from ages 12 all the way up to 14... i then moved to Texas under the tutelage of Rev. Ken Gurley

We were both born in 1973 ...

So Ferd that would be circa 85-88.

Rico
07-21-2008, 01:09 PM
RICO.. getting to the screen name brother... oh bye the way,.. this is a no win war... once I change it.. then all those who have not read this thread will be asking for days.. WHY DID YOU CHANGE YOUR NAME.... no longer a doctor? I can only hear all the replys.. but yet.. Im getting there

Not necessarily. For one thing, this thread would eventually go bye bye. You would have to deal with the occasional person bringing it up, like 1Cor has to deal with (the forum went down this road with him awhile back), but it would eventually become a non-issue.

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 01:09 PM
ferd you are not that old you should remember this stuff come on, dt

Encryptus
07-21-2008, 01:10 PM
Encryptus.. do you believe in fairness?

Then go through the post and show me ONE TIME where I ever threw my credentials out without being prodded or asked to do so.....

By the way, you might want to just get off of here and read your bible a little more.

Rev.. I actually disected it multiples times..... they just dont hand out those Masters Degrees in theology.. you actually have to know how to spell Genesis now.... amazing isn't it


You just don't know how to stop digging it deeper do you?????

SDG
07-21-2008, 01:10 PM
The same Ken Gurley that is in Pearland, Dr. V?

Rev
07-21-2008, 01:10 PM
We were both born in 1973 ...

So Ferd that would be circa 85-88.

When did Ken Gurley start pastoring? What years was he in Lufkin?

U376977
07-21-2008, 01:11 PM
Sounds to me this is a whole lot to do about nothing.

Honory degrees and undergraduate schools aside. If he graduated from Regents Univ. you must be a college grad to attend the school. If Dr. went to regents and has the Dr. degree from there, he is a DR. plain and simple.

Encryptus
07-21-2008, 01:14 PM
You just don't know how to stop digging it deeper do you?????

BTW I can understand you not remembering that exchange after all it was

YESTERDAY

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showpost.php?p=537282&postcount=27

Ferd
07-21-2008, 01:14 PM
Ferd,, it would have been when I was around 12 or thirteen because I preaced my first sermon for My Pastor.. Presbyter Gene Simpkins in Bogalusa, La.... and then he recommended to me to Bro. Hennigan... not sure of the exact years,, it was probably from ages 12 all the way up to 14... i then moved to Texas under the tutelage of Rev. Ken Gurley

85 to 87 or some such right?


hmmm. interesting. I seem to have some vague memories.

what camps?

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:14 PM
We were both born in 1973 ...

So Ferd that would be circa 85-88.

It was during the times the David Hennigan was Principal... Tom Foster was the evening speaker one of those years,, preached on "The Simplicity of Christ" man what a message

Michael Phelps
07-21-2008, 01:15 PM
Ferd,, it would have been when I was around 12 or thirteen because I preaced my first sermon for My Pastor.. Presbyter Gene Simpkins in Bogalusa, La.... and then he recommended to me to Bro. Hennigan... not sure of the exact years,, it was probably from ages 12 all the way up to 14... i then moved to Texas under the tutelage of Rev. Ken Gurley

YOu were preaching at a Louisiana camp when you were 12 or 13? Which one?

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:16 PM
You just don't know how to stop digging it deeper do you?????

after being prodded ...

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:16 PM
The same Ken Gurley that is in Pearland, Dr. V?

That would be him... give him a call.. .loves me dearly as I do him.... my cousin Joel Gatlin sat under his ministry as well

SDG
07-21-2008, 01:18 PM
after being prodded ...

No prodding for the first 3 pages of that thread ... none... this remark came after a discussion of Greek terms.

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:18 PM
When did Ken Gurley start pastoring? What years was he in Lufkin?

No idea... Elder Barnette was Pastor at the time... Ken became pastor when we returned years later.. we was there when Ben Spell was music Director the last time

I said Ken Gurley because the name no one knows the elder as much as Bro. Gurley

SDG
07-21-2008, 01:18 PM
That would be him... give him a call.. .loves me dearly as I do him.... my cousin Joel Gatlin sat under his ministry as well

Call him for what reason?

Rico
07-21-2008, 01:19 PM
BTW, you can scan your degrees, all of them if you want to, and then add them to a post as an attachment. You can't do it if you use the quick reply option. You have to use the Post Reply button and look for Manage Attachments.

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:20 PM
No prodding for the first 3 pages of that thread ... none... this remark came after a discussion of Greek terms.

Dan who started this entire discussion about degrees? I never do, its not what I do... you find one mention of it from me in exasperation.... are there any others?

SDG
07-21-2008, 01:21 PM
Dr. ... were you enrolled at the School of Psychology at Regent?

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:22 PM
Call him for what reason?

because you seem to always need proof of anything someone tells you... so if you also don't believe,, call him as I have invited you to do for many others.. rather than just keeping this charade up.. make the phone calls and then shut up please brother.. I am not the only one this is getting old too.. read the post

Michael Phelps
07-21-2008, 01:22 PM
No idea... Elder Barnette was Pastor at the time... Ken became pastor when we returned years later.. we was there when Ben Spell was music Director the last time

I said Ken Gurley because the name no one knows the elder as much as Bro. Gurley

I was just getting ready to reply to your post - there was no Barnhill.

But, I see you corrected it, it's Barnett.

My folks attended his church in Pearland for four years during their stint on staff at TBC.

DividedThigh
07-21-2008, 01:23 PM
if dan is anything he is persistent, lol

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:24 PM
BTW, you can scan your degrees, all of them if you want to, and then add them to a post as an attachment. You can't do it if you use the quick reply option. You have to use the Post Reply button and look for Manage Attachments.

Ill have to photograph them and transfer them from my memory card to here... ya know this is really sick.. but whateva

SDG
07-21-2008, 01:25 PM
Dr. ... were you enrolled at the School of Psychology at Regent?

Bump

Also, Was it the Doctorate in counselor education & supervision (Ph.D.)?

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:26 PM
Dr. ... were you enrolled at the School of Psychology at Regent?

Daniel... I'm done brother.. will post the degrees and I respectfully ask you to back away.... as a human being, it literally feels like you are stalking me dude... its creepy.... again I will post the degrees but I am through with this conversation.. I have tried soooo hard to answer any and every question that you might have... and you can never be a gentleman and say thanks and move on..... its to the point where its creepy now.....

Blessings..

SDG
07-21-2008, 01:27 PM
Daniel... I'm done brother.. will post the degrees and I respectfully ask you to back away.... as a human being, it literally feels like you are stalking me dude... its creepy.... again I will post the degrees but I am through with this conversation.. I have tried soooo hard to answer any and every question that you might have... and you can never be a gentleman and say thanks and move on..... its to the point where its creepy now.....

Blessings..

Just this one please?:bigbaby

Tyk
07-21-2008, 01:30 PM
Is English your first language and/or where were you raised?

Dr. Vaughn
07-21-2008, 01:31 PM
Just this one please?:bigbaby

Sorry my friend, no answer suffices you.... you guys reeled me in way with just ONE MORE QUESTION please... and this conversation is benefitting no one.. I tell you what.. there was a very special man who helped pay for my Regent graduation...... KG.... he can verify anything you need.. besides that.. it ends here

Rico
07-21-2008, 01:31 PM
Ill have to photograph them and transfer them from my memory card to here... ya know this is really sick.. but whateva

Well, I can't say that I didn't see it coming. Soon as I saw your screen name I knew it would eventually become an issue. No way you could have known that, though. This forum went 'round and 'round with 1Cor over his supposed credentials just a few weeks ago.

TRFrance
07-21-2008, 01:33 PM
Sounds to me this is a whole lot to do about nothing.

Honory degrees and undergraduate schools aside. If he graduated from Regents Univ. you must be a college grad to attend the school. If Dr. went to regents and has the Dr. degree from there, he is a DR. plain and simple.
I agree. Harassing him about his associate degree, bachelors degree, etc, and whether they were from an accredited college , etc is just nitpicking at this point.

The primary question that started this thread was about his Dr. title. He has stated that he's earned a Doctorate in Psychology from Regents, so that should be enough. Question answered. The man has even offered to upload a photograph of his degree/diploma for anyone who still has doubts.

I don't believe the man is lying, and even if he were, that's between him and God. But this constant badgering of the poor man is becoming more and more unseemly.