Jason B
07-20-2008, 04:39 PM
i was rading the WWPF thread and these thoughts come to mind.
I am sick and tired of men thinking they must have some group to protect God's truth. Sure enough WWPF will split somethime, and then spilt again. Where do all the splits stop? We aren't going to split in heaven, why bicker over little stuff.
My goodness, we can't hardly even have fellowship among ourselves, EVEN IN THE SAME ORGANIZATION, much less with other oneness churches.
Now I'm not saying embrace the whole christian world, nor even the charismatics, but what a shame, (God help us to change), that people who believe in the one and only true God, who know his name, who hold to Acts 2:38 (whether a PCI or UPCI view), can't even fellowship. And I still think there is room for holiness, but we ought to have fellowship and affiliation with other Jesus Name churches. Really what 2 Jesus name churches agree 100% on everything, should we all build bunkers and preach we only are going to heaven?
Really, we preach that other groups of oneness people are saved, for example UPCI does'nt condemn ALJC, which doesn't condemn PAW, which doesn't condemn AWCF, etc. So we agree that we will be in heaven with these people, but when it comes to so much as having a service with various groups, oh no, we can't do that, those across down have short sleeves, those across town wear only long sleeves.
We are supposed to be the true church of God (and I believe we are, at least doctinally), but the devil has caused us to be distracted by minor differences, while the world is going to hell.
SO I say ENOUGH, I'm sick of man made organizations. God is coming after a church, not an organization. As for my church, I will fellowship with nearly any church that is oneness, Jesus Name, Acts 2:38, doesn't mean I agree with everything, but so long as they are not in blantant heresy (see universalism)or error-uncondusive to compelling the lost to come in(snake handaling). We do we treat churches of like precious faith like the Ethiopian plague, and how does this strengthen out message?
Don't get me wrong, I am a progressive conservative, but I can be at home with ultra-con, and though I am slighty uncomfortable with liberal UPC, I can live with it (see-NOT break fellowship, and ........ them to hell). The line is when someone no longer holds to the necessity of Acts 2:38 (even 1-stepperes still strongly encourage their people to be baptized and recieve the Holy Ghost), when someone teaches it doesn't really matter, or gets so liberal, they don't even encourage modesty, I can't do that.
The problem is everyone has a line you won't cross, I respect that, I have mine. But for me the problem is that everytime you turn around someone else has moved their line further back, and you aren't holy enough for them.
They are more meticulous about who they fellowship than God.
Scattered thoughts I know, but what think ye?
I am sick and tired of men thinking they must have some group to protect God's truth. Sure enough WWPF will split somethime, and then spilt again. Where do all the splits stop? We aren't going to split in heaven, why bicker over little stuff.
My goodness, we can't hardly even have fellowship among ourselves, EVEN IN THE SAME ORGANIZATION, much less with other oneness churches.
Now I'm not saying embrace the whole christian world, nor even the charismatics, but what a shame, (God help us to change), that people who believe in the one and only true God, who know his name, who hold to Acts 2:38 (whether a PCI or UPCI view), can't even fellowship. And I still think there is room for holiness, but we ought to have fellowship and affiliation with other Jesus Name churches. Really what 2 Jesus name churches agree 100% on everything, should we all build bunkers and preach we only are going to heaven?
Really, we preach that other groups of oneness people are saved, for example UPCI does'nt condemn ALJC, which doesn't condemn PAW, which doesn't condemn AWCF, etc. So we agree that we will be in heaven with these people, but when it comes to so much as having a service with various groups, oh no, we can't do that, those across down have short sleeves, those across town wear only long sleeves.
We are supposed to be the true church of God (and I believe we are, at least doctinally), but the devil has caused us to be distracted by minor differences, while the world is going to hell.
SO I say ENOUGH, I'm sick of man made organizations. God is coming after a church, not an organization. As for my church, I will fellowship with nearly any church that is oneness, Jesus Name, Acts 2:38, doesn't mean I agree with everything, but so long as they are not in blantant heresy (see universalism)or error-uncondusive to compelling the lost to come in(snake handaling). We do we treat churches of like precious faith like the Ethiopian plague, and how does this strengthen out message?
Don't get me wrong, I am a progressive conservative, but I can be at home with ultra-con, and though I am slighty uncomfortable with liberal UPC, I can live with it (see-NOT break fellowship, and ........ them to hell). The line is when someone no longer holds to the necessity of Acts 2:38 (even 1-stepperes still strongly encourage their people to be baptized and recieve the Holy Ghost), when someone teaches it doesn't really matter, or gets so liberal, they don't even encourage modesty, I can't do that.
The problem is everyone has a line you won't cross, I respect that, I have mine. But for me the problem is that everytime you turn around someone else has moved their line further back, and you aren't holy enough for them.
They are more meticulous about who they fellowship than God.
Scattered thoughts I know, but what think ye?