Dallas Metroplex Churches ?

[PraiseHymn]

Ok saints, so now that I have physically moved here to Dallas I ask for thine help once again. This city is just way to big with too many churches and I dont think I will ever find an Apostolic Church. Folks have directed me to the "church locator" link on the UPCI page (50+ churches came up). Others have suggested names of Pastors but had no clue the names or areas/town of churches (its kinda hard to google that you know). With me not being off every Sunday its soooooooooo hard to just visit all of these churches a brother is feeling overwhelmed. I hate to be bothersome (to the saints ya know) but I really want a thriving 500+ members conservative apostolic church to go to here in the Dallas Metroplex area. HELP!!!!!!!!!! :snapout Ok ok ok, I am done here, but any help will do. (and I am so angry that the Church of Our Lord has no churches here in Dallas at all . . . of all cities).

How is Emmanuel Pentecostal Church Pastor Richard Flowers in Mesquite?

How is North Cities UPC in Garland Pastor Hargrove?

How is New Life Tabernacle Pastor Stanley?

How is Abundant Life Church in Plano Pastor Hennigan?

Refuge of the Lake Cities Pastor L. Chancy Gore?

Ohhhhhhhhh Lord I need help.

[BroBallard]

It all depends on what you are looking for... Bro. Flowers is a very good man and I respect him highly. My mother and brother attend this church.

Bro. Hargrove's is good as well even though I've never been... I think this is where Bro. Irvin Baxter goes to church.

I haven't seen Bro. Stanley in years but he's a good man.

I do not know the others.

I work in Dallas but I go to church in Ft. Worth and live in Ft. Worth. Our church runs about 200 to 250 people on the border of Ft. Worth and Arlington, with a couple of daughter works.

[Cindy]

EPC Rocks!
Brother Flowers is a great pastor, so I am told. I only heard him preach once I think.
I grew up at EPC when it was in Dallas, a longggggggg time ago.

[CC1]

Don't foget Mike Hayes Covenant Church!

Alos Ron Liles (Lyles?) church and Bo Baker's church that Elder Guidroz used to pastor.

[Cindy]

Brother Hargrove's church in Garland has a great reputation also.

[BroBallard]

EPC Rocks!
Brother Flowers is a great pastor, so I am told. I only heard him preach once I think.
I grew up at EPC when it was in Dallas, a longggggggg time ago.

Were you there when Bro. Housh (sp?) was pastor?

[Cindy]

Some Plano people were kinda of snobbish back in the day. Not the church people in particular. Don't know how it is now.

[Cindy]

Were you there when Bro. Housh (sp?) was pastor?

Yes I was until the late 60's.

[OnTheFritz]

Some Plano people were kinda of snobbish back in the day. Not the church people in particular. Don't know how it is now.

So, you just mean the pastoral staff, the city of Plano in general, or ... ;).

I attend church in Plano. Fantastic people, great pastor, but we're pretty progressive. I think you would probably like Bro. Flowers church. He's very good if you lean more conservative. We'd love to have you visit, though. We'll try not to be too snobby. :lol

[Cindy]

So, you just mean the pastoral staff, the city of Plano in general, or ... ;).

I attend church in Plano. Fantastic people, great pastor, but we're pretty progressive. I think you would probably like Bro. Flowers church. He's very good if you lean more conservative. We'd love to have you visit, though. We'll try not to be too snobby. :lol

No, not the church people. The people that lived in Plano, had a reputation of snobbishness. I thought I said in my post not the church people. And this was back in the 60's, I have no clue about now.

[BroBallard]

No, not the church people. The people that lived in Plano, had a reputation of snobbishness. I thought I said in my post not the church people. And this was back in the 60's, I have no clue about now.

I understand what you are saying, it was a stereotype of the city of Plano, but I think that has dissipated quite a bit. I went to the Plano church back in 1980 and was there when Bro. Mangun left for LA and Bro. Rigdon took the church.

[OnTheFritz]

No, not the church people. The people that lived in Plano, had a reputation of snobbishness. I thought I said in my post not the church people. And this was back in the 60's, I have no clue about now.

You said not the church people - wasn't sure if you meant the congregation was ok, but that we had snobby leadership. I understand now. :)

[PraiseHymn]

Progressive or liberal? (Concerning the Plano church) as I am very conservative in my views concerning adornment and holiness in general. When I look at a churches website and click on "about us" there are certain things I look for. When reading the statement of faith for Abundant Life http://www.alcplano.org/AboutALC/StatementofFaith/tabid/56/Default.aspx I see no mention of the Baptism in Jesus Name or receiving the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues. If thats "progressive" I dont think that will be the place for me. Now, I understand a lot of ministries dont want to be associated or considered Apostolic anymore but that is the basics for being saved and if the statement of faith does not reflect that coupled with it being taught at the church, hmmmmmmm, I dont think thats ok.

[Joie]

You might like to visit around.... the churches you listed are all very different.....have heard good reports about all on the list.

Please try to visit Peace Church in Mesquite at Beltline & Tripp. There are some precious people in that church. Also, you will love Bro Baker.

That church was pastored my Bro Murray Layne and his son Bro. Keith Layne. Both have passed away.

Which Dallas burb are you located in or do you live in east Dallas or north Dallas or other..... Travel in Dallas not too bad on Sunday.

I would rule out Bro. Stanley unless you are accustomed to a certain kind of leadership which I will not discuss. :)

Distance is important to me at this time in my life...

[crakjak]

Progressive or liberal? (Concerning the Plano church) as I am very conservative in my views concerning adornment and holiness in general. When I look at a churches website and click on "about us" there are certain things I look for. When reading the statement of faith for Abundant Life http://www.alcplano.org/AboutALC/StatementofFaith/tabid/56/Default.aspx I see no mention of the Baptism in Jesus Name or receiving the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues. If thats "progressive" I dont think that will be the place for me. Now, I understand a lot of ministries dont want to be associated or considered Apostolic anymore but that is the basics for being saved and if the statement of faith does not reflect that coupled with it being taught at the church, hmmmmmmm, I dont think thats ok.

You probably should go to Bro. Hargove's in Garland or Bro. Gore's in Wylie, or possibly Bro. Flowers, the rest will likely be too liberal for you.

[crakjak]

:ursofunnyDon't foget Mike Hayes Covenant Church!

Alos Ron Liles (Lyles?) church and Bo Baker's church that Elder Guidroz used to pastor.

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

I might fit in those churches, as you CC1 would likely also, that should tell you something.

[Joie]

:ursofunny

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

I might fit in those churches, as you CC1 would likely also, that should tell you something.

Pleazzzzzzze be more specific about this "crak"!!:roseglasses

[Kay B]

No, not the church people. The people that lived in Plano, had a reputation of snobbishness. I thought I said in my post not the church people. And this was back in the 60's, I have no clue about now.

Hey sis Plano was just being devloped in the late 60's. lol BB and I looked at houses there in the price range of $19,000. Man wish we had bought one then ! :D
I believe you and i know some folks that attend there. Good folks. To far from you to visit though. ;)

[AmazingGrace]

Some Plano people were kinda of snobbish back in the day. Not the church people in particular. Don't know how it is now.


Plano is far from conservative now... no offense to my one poster friend who goes there as I have many friends there but they do not uphold standards there at all really.

[CC1]

You probably should go to Bro. Hargove's in Garland or Bro. Gore's in Wylie, or possibly Bro. Flowers, the rest will likely be too liberal for you.

I think you have pretty much summed it up.

[AmazingGrace]

I think you have pretty much summed it up.

This is very much the case... but Bro Flowers is a lot more liberal than the first 2 named as far as I have been informed as of the last year. I could be wrong as this is just hearsay but... Yea... as far as UPC and Conservative.. youve named em!

I will say that I go to one of the 2 named and it is an awesome church, our pastor has never harped on standards from the pulpit. Its a very large and growing rapidly church... many different daughter works and adding more daily in our state and throughout the world. We are in the process of also beginning to start sending groups of ministers around the world and starting more daughter works internationally and our pastor completely has a vision for the lost and I am so thankful to sit under him as my pastor!

[Rhoni]

This is very much the case... but Bro Flowers is a lot more liberal than the first 2 named as far as I have been informed as of the last year. I could be wrong as this is just hearsay but... Yea... as far as UPC and Conservative.. youve named em!

I will say that I go to one of the 2 named and it is an awesome church, our pastor has never harped on standards from the pulpit. Its a very large and growing rapidly church... many different daughter works and adding more daily in our state and throughout the world. We are in the process of also beginning to start sending groups of ministers around the world and starting more daughter works internationally and our pastor completely has a vision for the lost and I am so thankful to sit under him as my pastor!

Amazing Grace,

Me thinks you have heard wrong. I have visited most of the churches discussed here and I would say Bro. Flowers is conservative. He has been preaching a series on "Holiness" that reminds me of my home church. It is as conservative as Bro. Hargroves.

Blessings, Rhoni

[OnTheFritz]

Progressive or liberal? (Concerning the Plano church) as I am very conservative in my views concerning adornment and holiness in general. When I look at a churches website and click on "about us" there are certain things I look for. When reading the statement of faith for Abundant Life http://www.alcplano.org/AboutALC/StatementofFaith/tabid/56/Default.aspx I see no mention of the Baptism in Jesus Name or receiving the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues. If thats "progressive" I dont think that will be the place for me. Now, I understand a lot of ministries dont want to be associated or considered Apostolic anymore but that is the basics for being saved and if the statement of faith does not reflect that coupled with it being taught at the church, hmmmmmmm, I dont think thats ok.

Fortunately I have had time to cool down before responding, so I will just say this. I can acknowledge and appreciate your opinion - in spite of the fact that you have discounted the faith, beliefs and salvation of our entire church family and ministry. Our website is not an all inclusive bullet list of our core beliefs, but rather a simple explanation for those who don't know God. You can call us whatever you like, whether it be liberal or progressive, but we are not a watered down version of the apostolic doctrine.

Would still love to have you visit. :) God bless.

[OnTheFritz]

You probably should go to Bro. Hargove's in Garland or Bro. Gore's in Wylie, or possibly Bro. Flowers, the rest will likely be too liberal for you.

Agreed.

[OnTheFritz]

Plano is far from conservative now... no offense to my one poster friend who goes there as I have many friends there but they do not uphold standards there at all really.

No offense taken. :friend

[OnTheFritz]

Amazing Grace,

Me thinks you have heard wrong. I have visited most of the churches discussed here and I would say Bro. Flowers is conservative. He has been preaching a series on "Holiness" that reminds me of my home church. It is as conservative as Bro. Hargroves.

Blessings, Rhoni

That's my understanding as well.

[AmazingGrace]

Amazing Grace,

Me thinks you have heard wrong. I have visited most of the churches discussed here and I would say Bro. Flowers is conservative. He has been preaching a series on "Holiness" that reminds me of my home church. It is as conservative as Bro. Hargroves.

Blessings, Rhoni

Thanks you girl for that info. I didnt want to believe but I did make sure I noted that it was indeed hearsay... :)

[CC1]

Fortunately I have had time to cool down before responding, so I will just say this. I can acknowledge and appreciate your opinion - in spite of the fact that you have discounted the faith, beliefs and salvation of our entire church family and ministry. Our website is not an all inclusive bullet list of our core beliefs, but rather a simple explanation for those who don't know God. You can call us whatever you like, whether it be liberal or progressive, but we are not a watered down version of the apostolic doctrine.

Would still love to have you visit. :) God bless.

Just keep your eyes peeled the next few Sunday's for that visitor wih one eyebrow arched and a look of disapproval on her face as she looks around to see if all of your saints meet her dress code and hair standards!:tease

[AmazingGrace]

No offense taken. :friend

:) cool :friend

[OnTheFritz]

Just keep your eyes peeled the next few Sunday's for that visitor wih one eyebrow arched and a look of disapproval on her face as she looks around to see if all of your saints meet her dress code and hair standards!:tease

I'll be watching....
:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

[AmazingGrace]

I'll be watching....
:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

Now make sure it aint me when I come in the door visiting... I wont have my eyebrow raised.. I know what to expect... but I still loves yall heathens LOL jk

[OnTheFritz]

Now make sure it aint me when I come in the door visiting... I wont have my eyebrow raised.. I know what to expect... but I still loves yall heathens LOL jk

Just think, if we weren't so liberal, you guys wouldn't have received such a boost in attendance a couple years ago. See - we're good for something.. :dance :ursofunny

[AmazingGrace]

Just think, if we weren't so liberal, you guys wouldn't have received such a boost in attendance a couple years ago. See - we're good for something.. :dance :ursofunny

LOL

I know huh... well hey were are growin real good on our own... dont have room for yall to go any more charasmatic! We are maxed out!!!! LOL kidding!!!!!!!!!!!:ursofunny

[OnTheFritz]

LOL

I know huh... well hey were are growin real good on our own... dont have room for yall to go any more charasmatic! We are maxed out!!!! LOL kidding!!!!!!!!!!!:ursofunny

Great. Well, I guess we'll have to delay our plans to provide sprinkling baptism for infants.... :ursofunny

:tic

[AmazingGrace]

Ya know Derrick... I was thinking tho... on the bright side... that other more more liberal upc church in our area (the one I grew up in) probably gave yall a big attendance boost a few yrs ago also..,. so yall should be fine :) LOL

[AmazingGrace]

Great. Well, I guess we'll have to delay our plans to provide sprinkling baptism for infants.... :ursofunny

:tic

You are so bad!!!!! Nah... I know a lot came over... and we have since begun growing by leaps and bounds... had 50 people like 8 yrs ago and now over 1000 and growing... Not to mention all of our daughter works. I know God has good things in store...

As for your church. I do not want anyone to think I am bashing AL... I love that church so much. I did a lot of my growing up around there... friends family and life... I never attended there but well.. if you knew me you would understand the situation. And No matter what that will always have a place in my heart.. someone talking down on AL is like someone bashing Christian world. Neither one of them are what God has in store for me spiritually but I love those churches and will never do a thing to tear them down... besides... AL has one of the most awesome drama directors in the world!!! And I just realized.. its not called AL anymore right?! ROFL having flashbacks here!

[OnTheFritz]

You are so bad!!!!! Nah... I know a lot came over... and we have since begun growing by leaps and bounds... had 50 people like 8 yrs ago and now over 1000 and growing... Not to mention all of our daughter works. I know God has good things in store...

As for your church. I do not want anyone to think I am bashing AL... I love that church so much. I did a lot of my growing up around there... friends family and life... I never attended there but well.. if you knew me you would understand the situation. And No matter what that will always have a place in my heart.. someone talking down on AL is like someone bashing Christian world. Neither one of them are what God has in store for me spiritually but I love those churches and will never do a thing to tear them down... besides... AL has one of the most awesome drama directors in the world!!! And I just realized.. its not called AL anymore right?! ROFL having flashbacks here!

I know you're not bashing. I love ALC (we added a "C", I guess) - and am not ashamed of where we stand on anything. I wouldn't have it any other way. I do appreciate the kind words. I likewise have always felt welcome when attending the Garland church (particularly for my niece's baptism).

By the way, you should definitely try to come to our Saturday Night Life event in October. If that doesn't get an eyebrow raise out of you, I don't know what will :)

[Bro-Larry]

Praisehim is a Her? Lol:crazy

I'd say it depends a lot on where you sleep. It's possible to drive 150 miles round trip to church in DFW.

[AmazingGrace]

I know you're not bashing. I love ALC (we added a "C", I guess) - and am not ashamed of where we stand on anything. I wouldn't have it any other way. I do appreciate the kind words. I likewise have always felt welcome when attending the Garland church (particularly for my niece's baptism).

By the way, you should definitely try to come to our Saturday Night Life event in October. If that doesn't get an eyebrow raise out of you, I don't know what will :)

I know what Saturday Night Life is LOL... so nope you didnt get the eyebrow raise And I will indeed be there this time. I had a proceedure done on my back right before the last one so I wasnt able to make it but I intend to be there for the next.

[LaGirl]

my friends tried several churches...they loved and now attend bro hargroves church.

[Rhoni]

my friends tried several churches...they loved and now attend bro hargroves church.


I visited once and Bro Hargrove was very cordial and welcoming. They have an awesome deaf ministry. Bro. & Sis. Baxter were neighboring Pastors in Indiana...back in the day.

[OnTheFritz]

Foster's church is also pretty conservative, I think.

[Ferd]

Don't foget Mike Hayes Covenant Church!

Alos Ron Liles (Lyles?) church and Bo Baker's church that Elder Guidroz used to pastor.

uhm.... well....errrr.... please forget Mike Hayes....


please....


CC1 dude said he wanted CONSERVITIVE CHURCH! lol!

[Ferd]

Praisehim is a Her? Lol:crazy

I'd say it depends a lot on where you sleep. It's possible to drive 150 miles round trip to church in DFW.

Now that there is absolute truth!

[Ferd]

AG or someone, isnt there another pretty conservitive church somewhere in the midcities? cant remember the pastors name.

[OnTheFritz]

AG or someone, isnt there another pretty conservitive church somewhere in the midcities? cant remember the pastors name.

I know some folks here. I believe it is conservative.

http://www.fupceuless.org/home.php

[Ferd]

I know some folks here. I believe it is conservative.

http://www.fupceuless.org/home.php

That's it! Mclaughlin is quite conservitive.

[AmazingGrace]

AG or someone, isnt there another pretty conservitive church somewhere in the midcities? cant remember the pastors name.

There is but I too cannot remember the name... I will think on it a while

[Cindy]

This thread brings back so many memories of growing up in a great church.

[rrford]

Amazing Grace,

Me thinks you have heard wrong. I have visited most of the churches discussed here and I would say Bro. Flowers is conservative. He has been preaching a series on "Holiness" that reminds me of my home church. It is as conservative as Bro. Hargroves.

Blessings, Rhoni

I really like Bro. Flowers. Would be interesting to hear exactly what he is teaching about holiness. Besides, CM Becton goes to church there and there aren't many finer Christian gentelenn on the face of the earth, IMO.

[commonsense]

That's it! Mclaughlin is quite conservitive.

We have friends that moved to Dallas a couple yrs ago and that's where they go to church. I think it qualifies as quite conservative!

[CC1]

I really like Bro. Flowers. Would be interesting to hear exactly what he is teaching about holiness. Besides, CM Becton goes to church there and there aren't many finer Christian gentelenn on the face of the earth, IMO.

Interesting. I didn't know that CM Becton had retired to the Dallas area. I wonder why there and not Nashville.

[CC1]

uhm.... well....errrr.... please forget Mike Hayes....


please....


CC1 dude said he wanted CONSERVITIVE CHURCH! lol!

You have to admit that the thought of a very conservative UPC type visiting Mike Hayes church is pretty funny.

[rrford]

Interesting. I didn't know that CM Becton had retired to the Dallas area. I wonder why there and not Nashville.

Oh, I don't know....maybe because anyone with half a brain would choose Texas over Tennessee. :ursofunny

[PraiseHymn]

Fortunately I have had time to cool down before responding, so I will just say this. I can acknowledge and appreciate your opinion - in spite of the fact that you have discounted the faith, beliefs and salvation of our entire church family and ministry. Our website is not an all inclusive bullet list of our core beliefs, but rather a simple explanation for those who don't know God. You can call us whatever you like, whether it be liberal or progressive, but we are not a watered down version of the apostolic doctrine.

Would still love to have you visit. :) God bless.

Uh, but what about those that already know God who want to use the website as a witnessing tool. Surely just a "summary" of your beliefs is not enough to explain how one gets to heaven. YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN of the water and of the Spirit and after reading the statement of faith, it did not explain how one can be born again. By no means do I think your church is not saved, however, its important to me who IS saved that my churches website explain how to get to heaven in their statement of faith otherwise it is a watered down version of the Acts 2:38 message. Just my view however I am just stating the facts according to what was presented to me on your website.

Funny, I met someone online that was telling me that they had no clue they were going to a COGIC/Church of God In Christ church because the literature nor the website said anything about being COGIC. He knew something was up when he saw women in skirts all the time but still could not put his finger on it (and yes, there are still some COGIC churches who teach outward standards).

I say all of that to say its very important TO ME for the core beliefs of the church to be on there website in this day in age.

[PraiseHymn]

Just keep your eyes peeled the next few Sunday's for that visitor wih one eyebrow arched and a look of disapproval on her face as she looks around to see if all of your saints meet her dress code and hair standards!:tease


1. I'm not UPC so you can grow or cut your hair all you want. I could care less.

2. I am not female, I'm a DUDE!

Thanks all for the comments. I have my work cut out for me visiting churches believing God will plant me where He wants me to be.

[StMark]

Uh, but what about those that already know God who want to use the website as a witnessing tool. Surely just a "summary" of your beliefs is not enough to explain how one gets to heaven. YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN of the water and of the Spirit and after reading the statement of faith, it did not explain how one can be born again. By no means do I think your church is not saved, however, its important to me who IS saved that my churches website explain how to get to heaven in their statement of faith otherwise it is a watered down version of the Acts 2:38 message. Just my view however I am just stating the facts according to what was presented to me on your website.

Funny, I met someone online that was telling me that they had no clue they were going to a COGIC/Church of God In Christ church because the literature nor the website said anything about being COGIC. He knew something was up when he saw women in skirts all the time but still could not put his finger on it (and yes, there are still some COGIC churches who teach outward standards).
I say all of that to say its very important TO ME for the core beliefs of the church to be on there website in this day in age.


Eeeew Lord you'll really gotta a fued going on I see - have at it
I like a rukus :ursofunny

anyhow, what you are describing is what they call "undercover COGIC".
many UPC churches are doing the same way when they name their
churches generic names. I think they do that because of the stigma
that some carry around with traditional churches.

Actually, I didn't know it but Rick Warran is Baptist! however, his
church is called Saddleback church.

[OnTheFritz]

Uh, but what about those that already know God who want to use the website as a witnessing tool. Surely just a "summary" of your beliefs is not enough to explain how one gets to heaven. YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN of the water and of the Spirit and after reading the statement of faith, it did not explain how one can be born again. By no means do I think your church is not saved, however, its important to me who IS saved that my churches website explain how to get to heaven in their statement of faith otherwise it is a watered down version of the Acts 2:38 message. Just my view however I am just stating the facts according to what was presented to me on your website.

Funny, I met someone online that was telling me that they had no clue they were going to a COGIC/Church of God In Christ church because the literature nor the website said anything about being COGIC. He knew something was up when he saw women in skirts all the time but still could not put his finger on it (and yes, there are still some COGIC churches who teach outward standards).

I say all of that to say its very important TO ME for the core beliefs of the church to be on there website in this day in age.


So.... I've tried to be good spirited about this, but now you're just irritating me. I don't know if it's your writing style or what (I realize that tone can be hard to interpret on forums), but your responses seem quite condemning. And if you want to go down that path, then we can. And I can assure you, that I will not apologize for our approach, nor feel that need to justify it according to your criteria.

its important to me who IS saved that my churches website explain how to get to heaven in their statement of faith otherwise it is a watered down version of the Acts 2:38 message

I can appreciate that this is important to you, but leaping to the conclusion that we are watered down on doctrine because of the verbiage on our website is asinine.

You've talked me into it. By all means, feel free to go to another church :)

[OnTheFritz]

Eeeew Lord you'll really gotta a fued going on I see - have at it
I like a rukus :ursofunny

anyhow, what you are describing is what they call "undercover COGIC".
many UPC churches are doing the same way when they name their
churches generic names. I think they do that because of the stigma
that some carry around with traditional churches.

Actually, I didn't know it but Rick Warran is Baptist! however, his
church is called Saddleback church.

Troublemaker. ;)

I'll take you on next, my friend. :snapout

[AmazingGrace]

Interesting. I didn't know that CM Becton had retired to the Dallas area. I wonder why there and not Nashville.

From what I was told his daughter is Sis Flowers... therefore he is there retiring with his family

[StMark]

Troublemaker. ;)

I'll take you on next, my friend. :snapout


Trouble Maker????????? Here you are in a Brawl and talkin'
bout taking me on next???? YOU are the one !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ursofunny

[OnTheFritz]

Trouble Maker????????? Here you are in a Brawl and talkin'
bout taking me on next???? YOU are the one !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ursofunny

Yeah - read the whole thread and see how nice I've been.... :friend

:club

:ursofunny:ursofunny

[AmazingGrace]

Man! And I am headed to bed! I always miss all the fun!

[StMark]

Man! And I am headed to bed! I always miss all the fun!


you KNOW you LOVE to Fight!!! lol just admit it :ursofunny
I could see you in a trailer park pulling hair, scratching and
screamin' in a country twangy accent :ursofunny

I know.... I'm being mean but it's fun :tease

[AmazingGrace]

you KNOW you LOVE to Fight!!! lol just admit it :ursofunny
I could see you in a trailer park pulling hair, scratching and
screamin' in a country twangy accent :ursofunny

I know.... I'm being mean but it's fun :tease



Well you wont ever find this chic in a trailer park so dont worry you wont miss nuttin! LOL

I am not a country hick stuck in the city!!! I am a city girl!!!!

[AmazingGrace]

But yes I love to fight LOL..

Happy?

[StMark]

well you wont ever find this chic in a trailer park so dont worry you wont miss nuttin! Lol

i am not a country hick stuck in the city!!! i am a city girl!!!!


puuuuleeze!!!

[AmazingGrace]

puuuuleeze!!!

:snapout:whistle

[PraiseHymn]

No DerrickS, whats irritating is you changing your avatar more than once a day.

You really think I should back down on my beliefs? Call it what you want. Everything that I've said has referred to "me" and "I". Women can wear pants and men skirts in your church if all I care. I was just stating the facts according to your churches website. Everyone on here has been to accomedating with me and my move to Dallas and has welcomed me (wether consevative or liberal) to fellowship with them in their church, however just because someone states that they feel your "statement of faith" is watered down should mean nothing to you.

Your still going to pay tithes there arent you? Your still going to get up Sunday morning and bypass hundreds of other churches just to go to your church. Why should you care what someone thinks of your statement of faith. Be proud that your website says nothing about being APOSTOLIC or HOLINESS or STANDARDS or WATER BAPTISM! Thats a choice you decided to make.

If the rest of your members at ALC is like you, then I truly dont want to visit.

Now go run and tell that to your Pastor that you are on an Apostolic message board running people away from your congregation before they even get their.

Your just like those people at the Potters House. As soon as someone wanted to question why TD Jakes wears an earring in his ear, they all were ready to fight. Answer the question and move on.............

Remember DerrickS, one more member at ALC equals one more gallon of gas your pastor gets to put into HIS car to get to church to preach to you. 500 less members with you left equals your pastor living in poverty and seeking employement elsewhere. Be nice to the newbies and dont get annoyed if someone finds something oddly strange with your statement of faith.

**excuse all mis-spelled words as I type in haste and prepare to meet "someone" in the trailer park!**

NOW RUN AND TELL THAT!

[StMark]

No DerrickS, whats irritating is you changing your avatar more than once a day.

You really think I should back down on my beliefs? Call it what you want. Everything that I've said has referred to "me" and "I". Women can wear pants and men skirts in your church if all I care. I was just stating the facts according to your churches website. Everyone on here has been to accomedating with me and my move to Dallas and has welcomed me (wether consevative or liberal) to fellowship with them in their church, however just because someone states that they feel your "statement of faith" is watered down should mean nothing to you.

Your still going to pay tithes there arent you? Your still going to get up Sunday morning and bypass hundreds of other churches just to go to your church. Why should you care what someone thinks of your statement of faith. Be proud that your website says nothing about being APOSTOLIC or HOLINESS or STANDARDS or WATER BAPTISM! Thats a choice you decided to make.

If the rest of your members at ALC is like you, then I truly dont want to visit.

Now go run and tell that to your Pastor that you are on an Apostolic message board running people away from your congregation before they even get their.

Your just like those people at the Potters House. As soon as someone wanted to question why TD Jakes wears an earring in his ear, they all were ready to fight. Answer the question and move on.............

Remember DerrickS, one more member at ALC equals one more gallon of gas your pastor gets to put into HIS car to get to church to preach to you. 500 less members with you left equals your pastor living in poverty and seeking employement elsewhere. Be nice to the newbies and dont get annoyed if someone finds something oddly strange with your statement of faith.

**excuse all mis-spelled words as I type in haste and prepare to meet "someone" in the trailer park!**

NOW RUN AND TELL THAT!



Now THAT is my kind of post!!!!!! :ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

[Rhoni]

I really like Bro. Flowers. Would be interesting to hear exactly what he is teaching about holiness. Besides, CM Becton goes to church there and there aren't many finer Christian gentelenn on the face of the earth, IMO.

Bro & Sis. Becton are very good people and I respect them from years ago [30+] up through today. They are consistent and precious people. Sis Flowers is their daughter and she has such a loving and gracious heart. When I shook her hand...she has the most dainty and soft hands...totally match her spirit.

Bro. Flowers has not let down anything his father-in-law built and the foundation there is strong and sure.

If a good, strong, consistent, Apostolic UPCI church is what you are looking for - there is none better.

Blessigns, Rhoni

[CC1]

Oh, I don't know....maybe because anyone with half a brain would choose Texas over Tennessee. :ursofunny

I dearly love Texas but as I pointed out to my wife last night as we opened our front door and stepped outside to a COOL breeze in July, "This would have never happened in Texas in July!!!!".

There are not many places I would rather be than Texas (except June - Sept) but Nashville is one of them.

[CC1]

From what I was told his daughter is Sis Flowers... therefore he is there retiring with his family

Ah, this maketh sense!

[CC1]

1. I'm not UPC so you can grow or cut your hair all you want. I could care less.

2. I am not female, I'm a DUDE!

Thanks all for the comments. I have my work cut out for me visiting churches believing God will plant me where He wants me to be.

LOL!!!! Sorry about thinking you were a woman. You can still arch an eyebrow though can't you?

If you are not UPC and are seeking a conservative church perhaps Elder Epey can weigh in with GIB and AMF churches in the Dallas area that might be your cup of tea. Hope he sees this.

[Ferd]

I dearly love Texas but as I pointed out to my wife last night as we opened our front door and stepped outside to a COOL breeze in July, "This would have never happened in Texas in July!!!!".
There are not many places I would rather be than Texas (except June - Sept) but Nashville is one of them.

It happened last year and I thought the world was coming to an end.

[Ferd]

LOL!!!! Sorry about thinking you were a woman. You can still arch an eyebrow though can't you?

If you are not UPC and are seeking a conservative church perhaps Elder Epey can weigh in with GIB and AMF churches in the Dallas area that might be your cup of tea. Hope he sees this.

Actually Brother Ballard has chimed in he goes to an awesome GIB very conservitive church with a fantastic pastor (Steve Pixler).

so there you go...

[Ferd]

You have to admit that the thought of a very conservative UPC type visiting Mike Hayes church is pretty funny.

hee hee... Dude would freak out. and be mad at us for sending him there! LOL!

[OnTheFritz]

You really think I should back down on my beliefs? Call it what you want. Everything that I've said has referred to "me" and "I". Women can wear pants and men skirts in your church if all I care. I was just stating the facts according to your churches website. Everyone on here has been to accomedating with me and my move to Dallas and has welcomed me (wether consevative or liberal) to fellowship with them in their church, however just because someone states that they feel your "statement of faith" is watered down should mean nothing to you.

I welcomed you several times. Now I'm done.

Your still going to pay tithes there arent you? Your still going to get up Sunday morning and bypass hundreds of other churches just to go to your church. Why should you care what someone thinks of your statement of faith. Be proud that your website says nothing about being APOSTOLIC or HOLINESS or STANDARDS or WATER BAPTISM! Thats a choice you decided to make.

Oh the drama.

If the rest of your members at ALC is like you, then I truly dont want to visit.

I speak only for myself. And, I will now speak for myself and say that you are acting like a 5 year old.

Now go run and tell that to your Pastor that you are on an Apostolic message board running people away from your congregation before they even get their.

Are you for real? You bait me with your church-bashing comments, then you say I am running you off?

Your just like those people at the Potters House. As soon as someone wanted to question why TD Jakes wears an earring in his ear, they all were ready to fight. Answer the question and move on.............

There is a difference between questioning and accusing. Clearly, you are still discovering that difference.

Remember DerrickS, one more member at ALC equals one more gallon of gas your pastor gets to put into HIS car to get to church to preach to you. 500 less members with you left equals your pastor living in poverty and seeking employement elsewhere.

We'll gladly take one more member - we'll just wait for one a little less holier-than-thou. :whistle

**excuse all mis-spelled words as I type in haste and prepare to meet "someone" in the trailer park!**

NOW RUN AND TELL THAT!

Again with the EMPHASIS!

Brother, I am going to try and step away from this conversation as it is not constructive. I sincerely wish you the best in your search. You and everyone else are always welcome at our church, but please try and leave your attitude at home.

[JosephConroy]

Ok saints, so now that I have physically moved here to Dallas I ask for thine help once again. This city is just way to big with too many churches and I dont think I will ever find an Apostolic Church. Folks have directed me to the "church locator" link on the UPCI page (50+ churches came up). Others have suggested names of Pastors but had no clue the names or areas/town of churches (its kinda hard to google that you know). With me not being off every Sunday its soooooooooo hard to just visit all of these churches a brother is feeling overwhelmed. I hate to be bothersome (to the saints ya know) but I really want a thriving 500+ members conservative apostolic church to go to here in the Dallas Metroplex area. HELP!!!!!!!!!! :snapout Ok ok ok, I am done here, but any help will do. (and I am so angry that the Church of Our Lord has no churches here in Dallas at all . . . of all cities).

How is Emmanuel Pentecostal Church Pastor Richard Flowers in Mesquite?

How is North Cities UPC in Garland Pastor Hargrove?

How is New Life Tabernacle Pastor Stanley?

How is Abundant Life Church in Plano Pastor Hennigan?

Refuge of the Lake Cities Pastor L. Chancy Gore?

Ohhhhhhhhh Lord I need help.


Well I would try and put myself in your shoes to give you a good answer there. Lets see where would *I* go if I lived in the DFW area. Well there are several GREAT choices! I could go to Brother Steve Pixlers over in Fort Worth, Or I could go over to Fort Worth To Brother Steve Pixlers Church OR I MIGHT go over to Fort Worth to Brother Steve Pixlers church , or I'd consider going over to the Church in Fort Worth that Steve Pixler Pastors or I might go to Apostolic Church of Fort Worth Pastored by Steve Pixler or , well What's that church over there in Fort Worth Pastored by that guy who writes all those songs? Oh yeah, Brother Pixlers, OH WAIT! WAIT! What about that church in Fort Worth Pastored by that guy who is a hyper genius and has a revelation of the grace of God and the wonders of New Testament salvation that just wont quit? I think its pastored by some guy named Pixler or Bixler or something like that.... I guess its hopeless! Theres only one choice in the area for me!

http://www.acfw.org

[OnTheFritz]

Now THAT is my kind of post!!!!!! :ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

It is indeed. You both need to invest in a spell checker ... :ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

j/k.

[PraiseHymn]

Well I would try and put myself in your shoes to give you a good answer there. Lets see where would *I* go if I lived in the DFW area. Well there are several GREAT choices! I could go to Brother Steve Pixlers over in Fort Worth, Or I could go over to Fort Worth To Brother Steve Pixlers Church OR I MIGHT go over to Fort Worth to Brother Steve Pixlers church , or I'd consider going over to the Church in Fort Worth that Steve Pixler Pastors or I might go to Apostolic Church of Fort Worth Pastored by Steve Pixler or , well What's that church over there in Fort Worth Pastored by that guy who writes all those songs? Oh yeah, Brother Pixlers, OH WAIT! WAIT! What about that church in Fort Worth Pastored by that guy who is a hyper genius and has a revelation of the grace of God and the wonders of New Testament salvation that just wont quit? I think its pastored by some guy named Pixler or Bixler or something like that.... I guess its hopeless! Theres only one choice in the area for me!

http://www.acfw.org

I listened to his podcast last night online and when I tell you I about had a holy fit. The man is DEEP in the WORD. Thats what I need. I'll be visiting soon enough (sooner rather than later now that gas has gone down in price a little bit....what...a penny or two lol). But for real, I agree, the man has Word!!!!!!!!

[Ferd]

I listened to his podcast last night online and when I tell you I about had a holy fit. The man is DEEP in the WORD. Thats what I need. I'll be visiting soon enough (sooner rather than later now that gas has gone down in price a little bit....what...a penny or two lol). But for real, I agree, the man has Word!!!!!!!!

hook up with Brother Ballard. He attends there and is an AWESOME guy... even if he does owe me some sushi!

[JosephConroy]

hook up with Brother Ballard. He attends there and is an AWESOME guy... even if he does owe me some sushi!

Ballard? Ballard!!!??? What can you say about Brother Ballard except there is no finer more wonderful brother in the Lord ANYWHERE! I love my brother and that would be YET ANOTHER reason why there simply couldnt be any other choice for me in the DFW area!

Sushi for Ballard! Sushi for EVERYONE!!!!

[StMark]

Is Pastor Lyles still UPC ?

[Ferd]

Is Pastor Lyles still UPC ?

Yes. the church isnt. he is.

[BroBallard]

Ballard? Ballard!!!??? What can you say about Brother Ballard except there is no finer more wonderful brother in the Lord ANYWHERE! I love my brother and that would be YET ANOTHER reason why there simply couldnt be any other choice for me in the DFW area!

Sushi for Ballard! Sushi for EVERYONE!!!!

Bro. Conroy you're on AFF!!!!!

Thanks for the compliment.

You eat sushi!!!! Hey hey hey!!!! Next time you're here we'll take Pastor along and pick up FERD in fact FERD will pick up the tab, he's that sort of guy!!!! :ursofunny

[dizzyde]

You might like to visit around.... the churches you listed are all very different.....have heard good reports about all on the list.

Please try to visit Peace Church in Mesquite at Beltline & Tripp. There are some precious people in that church. Also, you will love Bro Baker.

That church was pastored my Bro Murray Layne and his son Bro. Keith Layne. Both have passed away.

Which Dallas burb are you located in or do you live in east Dallas or north Dallas or other..... Travel in Dallas not too bad on Sunday.

I would rule out Bro. Stanley unless you are accustomed to a certain kind of leadership which I will not discuss. :)

Distance is important to me at this time in my life...

Did you mean to say that Murray Lane was your brother, or just that he was your pastor? He pastored my grandparents for a while as well.

[Joie]

Hellooo Dizzy :):)

My Pastor... in fact, I came out of the Baptist Church. At Peace Church in Mesquite, I receive the Holy Ghost and was baptized In Jesus Name in November of 1990. Pastor Murray married my dh and I at Peace Tabernacle as it was previous to Peace Church.

[crakjak]

Foster's church is also pretty conservative, I think.

I was wondering about Tom Foster's church, this morning at our church, a family was in front of us, and I thought they might be the Hoover's (j/k steve). However, they did appear to be Mennonite or Amish, they had five girls, age 16 to maybe four, that sat between the mom and the dad.

I met them after service and they had been attending Bro. Foster's, and after further discussion I found that they had attended the church at Heritage Homestead near Waco, Blair Adams the leader. So that explained the conservative dress.

I enjoyed meeting them, they seemed like a wonderful family. I believe it was a God thing for us to be so near them, since we had similar roots. They have attended Lake Highland Church this being the third time and said they were really liking it, and were meeting with Pastor Jim Reynolds following the service.

Lake Highlands is a great church, established fifty years ago as a Church of Christ, invaded by the Spirit of God and wonderful music 20 years ago. Full of real folks, trying to follow Jesus and to serve this generation. Pastor is teaching some on the history of the Church, showing the thread of true discipleship and love of God throughout the sordid history of Christiany.

[Falla39]

Lake Highlands is a great church, established fifty years ago as a Church of Christ, invaded by the Spirit of God and wonderful music 20 years ago. Full of real folks, trying to follow Jesus and to serve this generation. Pastor is teaching some on the history of the Church, showing the thread of true discipleship and love of God throughout the sordid history of Christianity.

Bro. Crakjak,

Some have read the story of how our grandmother, Lizzie Blakey, in the
thread, "Falla's Grandmother, Lizzie Blakey, ...", , how the Lord led her,
as a very devout Methodist, to hear the apostolic message. A very few years
after He had healed her as she lay dying of typhoid fever.

After she heard this new message, she fully intended to show that preacher
he was wrong. In searching the scriptures she indicted herself and found that
she simply had not been told this part of the scriptures. Our late father,
fourteen years old at the time, thought it to be Jehovah Witness doctrine.

But Lizzie said, "No, Son, I have searched the scriptures and it's there". He
decided maybe he should pay closer attention to it then. A short time later
Dad decided he was going to be baptized in Jesus Name and told Grandma
of his intentions. She said, "Son, if that's the way you feel, I'll go with you.

He told her she had her church and he didn't want her to feel she had to
leave it because of his decision. She replied, "No, Son, matter of fact a
Church of Christ minister who convinced me a few years ago by the
scriptures that you should be immersed in water at baptism. I didn't
believe the other things the Church of Christ taught so I didn't join them.
I now understand my need to be baptized in Jesus Name."

I thank God for that C of C minister who took the time to show her that
much. I believe it was the beginning of the Lord leading her into more truth.
Our late father used to say, "Sometimes people won't accept the message
because they don't like the "source" it comes through".

When we were children if something was different than what we had always
heard and been taught, we looked to Dad to discern if it was right because
we knew he studied the Word. But there comes a time we have to seach
out our own salvation with fear and trembling.

Blessings,

Falla39

[crakjak]

Bro. Crakjak,

Some have read the story of how our grandmother, Lizzie Blakey, in the
thread, "Falla's Grandmother, Lizzie Blakey, ...", , how the Lord led her,
as a very devout Methodist, to hear the apostolic message. A very few years
after He had healed her as she lay dying of typhoid fever.

After she heard this new message, she fully intended to show that preacher
he was wrong. In searching the scriptures she indicted herself and found that
she simply had not been told this part of the scriptures. Our late father,
fourteen years old at the time, thought it to be Jehovah Witness doctrine.

But Lizzie said, "No, Son, I have searched the scriptures and it's there". He
decided maybe he should pay closer attention to it then. A short time later
Dad decided he was going to be baptized in Jesus Name and told Grandma
of his intentions. She said, "Son, if that's the way you feel, I'll go with you.

He told her she had her church and he didn't want her to feel she had to
leave it because of his decision. She replied, "No, Son, matter of fact a
Church of Christ minister who convinced me a few years ago by the
scriptures that you should be immersed in water at baptism. I didn't
believe the other things the Church of Christ taught so I didn't join them.
I now understand my need to be baptized in Jesus Name."

I thank God for that C of C minister who took the time to show her that
much. I believe it was the beginning of the Lord leading her into more truth.
Our late father used to say, "Sometimes people won't accept the message
because they don't like the "source" it comes through".

When we were children if something was different than what we had always
heard and been taught, we looked to Dad to discern if it was right because
we knew he studied the Word. But there comes a time we have to seach
out our own salvation with fear and trembling.

Blessings,

Falla39

Well said, my dear sister.

Lake Highlands will celebrate its fifty year in the next few months, I am looking forward to hearing about the path that brought them to where they are today. I feel sure that their love for the Word of God, and that search opened them up to understand that the Spirit of God is active in His church today. Pastor Reynolds has been teaching about the early church since before Pentecost Sunday, he definitely believes the true has a thread that connects with the apostles. He is quite the scholar, he was a practicing attorney until just recently, has five or six college degrees, yet he is one of the most unassuming men I have ever met. Anyway, I am really enjoying the teaching and preaching.

[Whole Hearted]

I listened to his podcast last night online and when I tell you I about had a holy fit. The man is DEEP in the WORD. Thats what I need. I'll be visiting soon enough (sooner rather than later now that gas has gone down in price a little bit....what...a penny or two lol). But for real, I agree, the man has Word!!!!!!!!

Bro Pixler is great. That would be my first chose in churches but it would be quite a drive..

I have a friend who preaches quite a bit for Brother Stanley and he says that that is a good church.

[berkeley]

How ya doin WH?

[Whole Hearted]

How ya doin WH?

Tired but blessed.

[apostolic1980]

Dallas Apostolic
3106 Acoca St
Dallas, TX 75228

[Sabby]

Peace Church
Beltline Road
Mesquite, TX

[CC1]

You guys do realize that this thread is from 2008 right? I hope all these years later this person found their church in Dallas!

[berkeley]

You guys do realize that this thread is from 2008 right? I hope all these years later this person found their church in Dallas!LOL

Maybe he's not satisfied where he landed

[Jermyn Davidson]

He doesn't live in Dallas and now he attends Bro Huntley's church.