Why Do You Hang Around Here?

[rgcraig]

I've been asked several times by different posters as to why I hang around here. (there are times even I wonder)- But my history is one of 40 plus years and I've known many wonderful people and.....my dad's fingerprints are still evident though they are fading fast.

This post rang true to me when I read it!

Many have wondered why so many of us ex-UPC people hang around here and I know from time to time we've tried to explain it, but the answer for me is just as RD stated - - it's our history.

It's part of my culture of who I am and why I am who I am. To be in contact with others that were raised similar makes it fun to hang around here. It's like a family - we know so many of the same people, have had so many of the same experiences and like the UPC culture thread can laugh about so many of the things we did through the years.

With all the fussing and division at times it's a wonder we even speak to each other from day to day, but it's because we have that common bond.

What's so hard to understand about that? :friend

Why do you hang around here?

[Scott Hutchinson]

I hang around here because I like alot of people here it's rather hard to explain,but people here treat me kindly.

[Pro31:28]

Because it's like family. Even though you don't always agree, you have a common bond.

There are very few people in my life that I can walk up to and talk about my history, they think it's crazy! I remember one time having a conversation with someone about my history and they said, "I don't care what someone said, I would never take off my make-up!"
My comment to them was, "if you sincerely thought it would get you Heaven, you would"...
Other people don't "get it"
But my adopted family at AFF does!

[Cindy]

Well, I came here out of curiosity. And stayed because of a few people that I have really come to like a lot. Some are gone, but some are still here. Except for that Prax guy :D most of y'all are very likable people. And I wanted to reconnect to my past if I could. Being here and posting really gave me a desire to know God more. And to be like Jesus, and pray for God to give me strength to go to church when I can. Sometimes y'all get me through some days when I want to give up.

[OneAccord]

Sometimes I ask myself that same question. Then I answer it with this: Raven, Pressingon, Amazing Grace, Renda, Sis Falla, Sis Alvear,Rico, Bro. Scott. Sisters Barb, Esther and Rhoni, St Matthew and many more. You guys are the reasons I keep hangin' around. And something more...every so often a crumb falls from the Masters Table in the form of a post that ministers to me- and helps me to see where I need to follow a little closer to the Lord.


Micheal Phelps, too. So I hang around because of you guys. Its your fault I'm still here.

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

I hang around here because my favorite chair is in front of the computer and I do not want to move it.

[1Corinth2v4]

I hang around because I'm loved by RCraig and The Mrs.

[rgcraig]

I hang around because I'm loved by RCraig and The Mrs.

:whistle Dean Martin crooning...."everybody loves somebody sometime" :whistle

[Margies3]

I'm like so many of the others of you who've said that you come here because the Apostolic church is a part of who you are. I coud no more deny the influence that the UPC has had on my life than I could deny the change being married to Walt has made in my life.

It's almost like we come here because we feel a need to connect with our arm or our leg or our ear. We're all part of the body of Christ. I need you - all of you. Just like, whether you like it or not, you also need me :)

Besides all that, the honest truth is that when we talk to people who've never experienced this, they don't get it. We might as well be talking gibberish. I need to talk to people who have had these same experiences and know what I'm talking about.

Plus, I've learned to love a whole lot of you :friend

[Scott Hutchinson]

1CORINTH2V4 is so sweet he is turning into sugar.

[rgcraig]

AND I love the way we can be fussing one moment and be presented with a need and immediately all weapons are put down and prayer is going up!

Can't get that just everywhere either!

[Esther]

I come here to learn and enjoy fellowship! :)

[Scott Hutchinson]

CC1 was kissed by RGCraig he proably will never forget it.

[seguidordejesus]

You guys are cool...lots of history and I get to stay in touch with those from the past all over the world.

[MrsMcD]

I like the people that post on this forum.

[Kay B]

I followed Cindy over here from GNC and found that there were a few folks that I knew. Also made some new friends and renewed contact with some old friend through some here.
I believe there are many others here that possibly we either have met or know alot of the same folks.

Also was reminded of some words to a song (probably a country western one). "The roots of my raising run deep". I believe this is one of the things we all have in common no matter if we are still part of the UPC or not. I'm way up here in Alaska and have been for almost 19 years. My southern roots still run deep! :D

[Jack Shephard]

Renda, I agree with you 100%. It is a culture thing. I hang out with old friends when I am in town cause of the times we spent together and we are still friends. I am friends with the UPCI, but not married to it. I hang around here, AFF because I like the culture here. It is a place for people that call Jesus God no matter how the other chips fall.

I am a big fan of history. American history, church history, etc. It is impossible to know where you are going with out knowing where you have been. It is human nature to know where you come from. I have friends that were adopted when younger. Often times they want to seek out the biological parents to know where they come from. I think the same is true here. UPCI or ALJC, is where my background is. It is not where my theology lies, but I do attend a UPCI church. I think that alot of us 'formers and exes' are fine with being involved with the people still in the UPCI. I for one thank God for the UPCI and ALJC because they birthed me spiritually.

[Ron]

I hang around here cuz I don't know how to log off!:D

[Scott Hutchinson]

Hey Sister KAY hope you don't mind me calling you that,that dixie fried roots thing sticks with you.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Brother Ron you know you love your American kin folks.

[rgcraig]

CC1 was kissed by RGCraig he proably will never forget it.

And this is why you hang around here? :ursofunny

[Scott Hutchinson]

And this is why you hang around here? :ursofunny

Well sure I can joke with my family about such things.
You are my adopted sister you know.

[Kay B]

Hey Sister KAY hope you don't mind me calling you that,that dixie fried roots thing sticks with you.

It's fine Bro Scott. :D That Georgia red clay sure did stick. ;)

[steve p]

:shockamooI come from a Southern Baptist Background. But, having experienced the Baptisim of the Holy Ghost, speaking in tongues, etc; I found this forum to be informative. I can't really agree on a lot of the doctrine, and I find it somewhat disturbing how people get so angry with each other on here. I still like most of the people I've "met" on here. I need to be more forgiving and loving in how I deal with those with whom I dont always agree.

Blessings to all!!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Steve P hey us guitar fans are a clannish lot,a guy that loves picking like you do has got to be a good joe.

[steve p]

Steve P hey us guitar fans are a clannish lot,a guy that loves picking like you do has got to be a good joe.

We could start our own church eh!!!!!

[Mosby48]

This post rang true to me when I read it!

Many have wondered why so many of us ex-UPC people hang around here and I know from time to time we've tried to explain it, but the answer for me is just as RD stated - - it's our history.

It's part of my culture of who I am and why I am who I am. To be in contact with others that were raised similar makes it fun to hang around here. It's like a family - we know so many of the same people, have had so many of the same experiences and like the UPC culture thread can laugh about so many of the things we did through the years.

With all the fussing and division at times it's a wonder we even speak to each other from day to day, but it's because we have that common bond.

What's so hard to understand about that? :friend

Why do you hang around here?
Two reasons. I work for the railroad and I am Pentecostal. Both cultures have their own language and way of talking. If you tell a story to an outsider, it loses it's funniness because you have to explain so much. It's two cultures I understand and they understand me. This forum is enjoyable (most of the time), concerns ideas I believe and is made up of a lot of really nice folks. I enjoy the gossip and info about events happening around the country.

[ManOfWord]

Why do I hang around here? Good question!

The answer is pretty much why I do almost anything.......I want to make a difference. I do NOT want to make everyone like me. But God has put so many good men and women in my life who have made a difference; I just want to do the same thing. Truthfully, pastoring a church of 300 and the other things I am involved in take up quite a bit of my time. I am very involved in my community and am beginning to travel to other countries more to teach on the Jewish roots of Christianity and the oneness of God.

I like the people here! I like the exchanges. I like the way the people here cause me to think and I hope from time to time I challenge others to think as well.

I got saved, married, ordained and pastored in the UPC for over 20 yrs. It is my Christian cultural roots. I still have many connections in it. I still bring attention to its warts and rightly so. I also have a deep appreciation for its wonderful men and women of God.

I am secure in who I am because of Him and I honestly don't need to post here to make me feel good. I have a camaraderie with the other owners here even though we're not all alike. I believe that unity is diversity walking the same direction.

AFF is fun. AFF is NOT life. AFF is not everything to me, but it is something....something I enjoy. AFF is truly the people who post here and I enjoy everyone of them...those who like me and those who don't.....lib, con & everything in between. We share a common bond around the Godhead and I am sold out to that truth in scripture!


Viva la difference!!!! :D

[A_PoMo]

I come here for all the salacious gossip. And because DizzyDe paid me to be her friend on here, thus I feel obligated. :)

[Scott Hutchinson]

Well POMO have you finally found what you are looking for ?
Manofword can blame me for ruining his life with forums.

[Scott Hutchinson]

We could start our own church eh!!!!!

Yes we could have fuzztone and clean tone worship services.

[A_PoMo]

Well POMO have you finally found what you are looking for ?
Manofword can blame me for ruining his life with forums.

Yeah, actually I did find it! But, alas, I lost it again. :search

[Rhoni]

I post here ...to feel connected to my roots.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Scott Hutchinson]

It's nice to see my wiser big sister from TX posting here.

[RandyWayne]

Can you imagine how boring it would be if the only members present for conservative and a few mod posters?

Can we all say 'amen?', and "good report!", and 'preach it bro!' would be the bulk of the posts.

And the threads on those who 'went charasmatic' and 'backslid' to which there would be plenty of the above as well.

[AmazingGrace]

Sometimes I ask myself that same question. Then I answer it with this: Raven, Pressingon, Amazing Grace, Renda, Sis Falla, Sis Alvear,Rico, Bro. Scott. Sisters Barb, Esther and Rhoni, St Matthew and many more. You guys are the reasons I keep hangin' around. And something more...every so often a crumb falls from the Masters Table in the form of a post that ministers to me- and helps me to see where I need to follow a little closer to the Lord.


Micheal Phelps, too. So I hang around because of you guys. Its your fault I'm still here.

Awww! I have to say its posters like you and some others around here that keep me coming back day after day also... I just love this place!!!!! Thank you though and yes how true of a post!

[Scott Hutchinson]

With Sister AG comes alot of Sisterly sweetness.

[Sister Alvear]

I think this is a great forum and I have been blessed by making many friendships here and I know more people are praying for us...and some in time will come and visit us here on the mission field.
I don´t think we have to agree on everything to still be friends...

[Sister Alvear]

Scott, I think you are a great guy and if you ever left us your posts would be missed....

[Rhoni]

Sometimes I ask myself that same question. Then I answer it with this: Raven, Pressingon, Amazing Grace, Renda, Sis Falla, Sis Alvear,Rico, Bro. Scott. Sisters Barb, Esther and Rhoni, St Matthew and many more. You guys are the reasons I keep hangin' around. And something more...every so often a crumb falls from the Masters Table in the form of a post that ministers to me- and helps me to see where I need to follow a little closer to the Lord.


Micheal Phelps, too. So I hang around because of you guys. Its your fault I'm still here.OneAccord,

I am truly honored.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Rhoni]

It's nice to see my wiser big sister from TX posting here.

With Sister AG comes alot of Sisterly sweetness.

I think this is a great forum and I have been blessed by making many friendships here and I know more people are praying for us...and some in time will come and visit us here on the mission field.
I don´t think we have to agree on everything to still be friends...

Scott, I think you are a great guy and if you ever left us your posts would be missed....

Amen. Love you guys:friend

[Scott Hutchinson]

Scott, I think you are a great guy and if you ever left us your posts would be missed....

I have faults aplenty but I do care about people,and I appreciate God's children very much.
MotherA. you are a very dear mother in zion.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Sister Rhoni I hope all is well in your neck of the woods.

[jaxfam6]

I hang around because you all are so bad it makes me feel MUCH better about myself.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I hang around because you all are so bad it makes me feel MUCH better about myself.

At least you married a saint.:ursofunny

[jaxfam6]

At least you married a saint.:ursofunny

that is true

[Scott Hutchinson]

JAXFAM6 We know where your kids got their looks from.

[AmazingGrace]

Wow such a mushy lovey thread! Sniff sniff not sure what all to say.... I guess I just want to stand and say tonight that I love the forum and that I am so thankful to be here and I am so thankful for all my dear friends... Rhoni, Falla, Scott, Dizzy, Carey and all the rest of you nuts and thats all I have tonight... AMEN!!!!

Next.... Sis Rhoni why dont you stand up and say a word for the forum LOL sorry... Ok I am doing being goofy :)

fyi this was my attempt at a tension breaker as I started to get teary eyed

[jaxfam6]

JAXFAM6 We know where your kids got their looks from.

Where would that be from? certainly ISN'T isn't me

[Rico]

I hang around because I'm loved by RCraig and The Mrs.


I am sure they, like the rest of us, are happy to be stuck with you too. :D

AND I love the way we can be fussing one moment and be presented with a need and immediately all weapons are put down and prayer is going up!

Can't get that just everywhere either!

It's kinda weird the way that works, huh? We can beat the tar out of each other, but let something come along that needs prayed over and LOOK OUT DEVIL!

I hang around here cuz I don't know how to log off!:D

I heard that!

I hang around because you all are so bad it makes me feel MUCH better about myself.

I know that feeling too. I've thanked God many times I was me instead of someone else on this forum. :lol


I hang out here for one simple reason. Y'all are the closest thing I have to a church family. I know I've said church people get on my nerves, and they still do. Even still, I like interacting with y'all. I like laughing with y'all, crying with y'all, fighting with y'all, praying with y'all, the whole bit. I know this isn't church, but it certainly is an extension, or outgrowth, of the Church.

[Carpenter]

I like hanging around here because I don't have a life, my brother moved out of town and I have no friends.


:dance

[rgcraig]

I like hanging around here because I don't have a life, my brother moved out of town and I have no friends.


:dance

Tears are flowing here for you......................


























:snapout

[OnTheFritz]

I hang around to encourage those that agree with me, and antagonzie those who don't. Plus, it's an addiction. :lol

[Nahum]

Why am I here?

Blame Verlon Blackwell.

[HeavenlyOne]

Sometimes I ask myself that same question. Then I answer it with this: Raven, Pressingon, Amazing Grace, Renda, Sis Falla, Sis Alvear,Rico, Bro. Scott. Sisters Barb, Esther and Rhoni, St Matthew and many more. You guys are the reasons I keep hangin' around. And something more...every so often a crumb falls from the Masters Table in the form of a post that ministers to me- and helps me to see where I need to follow a little closer to the Lord.


Micheal Phelps, too. So I hang around because of you guys. Its your fault I'm still here.

I'm glad you are here.

I have met a lot of people in real life from this forum and other forums I'm a member of and have not been disappointed. There are several others I hope to meet someday as well.

In fact, I'd like to meet everyone, even those I can't stand on here....LOL!

There are those of us who are quite different in real life than we are on this forum. I'm one of those people (or so I've been told). Some people on this forum I honestly don't or cannot get along with here, but I would love to meet them in person because of comments from others I admire and believe who have met them and have awesome things to say.

As for why I stick around this place, must be the addiction. I have no other explanation.

[Rhoni]

Wow such a mushy lovey thread! Sniff sniff not sure what all to say.... I guess I just want to stand and say tonight that I love the forum and that I am so thankful to be here and I am so thankful for all my dear friends... Rhoni, Falla, Scott, Dizzy, Carey and all the rest of you nuts and thats all I have tonight... AMEN!!!!

Next.... Sis Rhoni why dont you stand up and say a word for the forum LOL sorry... Ok I am doing being goofy :)

fyi this was my attempt at a tension breaker as I started to get teary eyed

The forum...hummm, of FCF, NFCF, and AFF...things get better and better. The Island was kind of like Abraham's bosom...the peace before judgement day.:tease

How's that AG:friend

Blessings, Rhoni

[AmazingGrace]

The forum...hummm, of FCF, NFCF, and AFF...things get better and better. The Island was kind of like Abraham's bosom...the peace before judgement day.:tease

How's that AG:friend

Blessings, Rhoni

:) that will work!!!!

[Rhoni]

I hang around to encourage those that agree with me, and antagonzie those who don't. Plus, it's an addiction. :lol

:evilglee EXACTLY!!!!:club

[Praxeas]

This post rang true to me when I read it!

Many have wondered why so many of us ex-UPC people hang around here and I know from time to time we've tried to explain it, but the answer for me is just as RD stated - - it's our history.

It's part of my culture of who I am and why I am who I am. To be in contact with others that were raised similar makes it fun to hang around here. It's like a family - we know so many of the same people, have had so many of the same experiences and like the UPC culture thread can laugh about so many of the things we did through the years.

With all the fussing and division at times it's a wonder we even speak to each other from day to day, but it's because we have that common bond.

What's so hard to understand about that? :friend

Why do you hang around here?
I get paid :evilglee:evilglee

[Margies3]

I get paid :evilglee:evilglee

It can't be that great a paycheck! :tease

[Ron]

Brother Ron you know you love your American kin folks.

Yeah, you are right. Some brethren such as yourself it is real easy to like.

I think of it like this,

To dwell above with Saints We love,
That truly will be glory!

To dwell below with Saints we know,
Well, that's a different story!

Sounds funny, but if we don't love those who we can see, how can we love God
who we can't see?

I am still working on that.

[Carpenter]

On second thought I have no clue why I am here. This is a waste of time.

[Ron]

On second thought I have no clue why I am here. This is a waste of time.

Carp, I am glad you are here.

[HeavenlyOne]

Carp, I am glad you are here.

I'm glad he's here too.

[Rhoni]

Yeah, you are right. Some brethren such as yourself it is real easy to like.

I think of it like this,

To dwell above with Saints We love,
That truly will be glory!

To dwell below with Saints we know,
Well, that's a different story!

Sounds funny, but if we don't love those who we can see, how can we love God
who we can't see?

I am still working on that.

On second thought I have no clue why I am here. This is a waste of time.

I'm glad he's here too.

I'm glad all three of you are here. I enjoy your posts.

Blessings, Rhoni

[StillStanding]

I'm here because I share common Apostolic DNA with most everyone on AFF.

I totally understand where the conservative, moderates and liberals are coming from, because I've been all three at one time or another! :)

[RandyWayne]

I'm glad all three of you are here. I enjoy your posts.

Blessings, Rhoni

I don't know why I'm here half the time.....

[AmazingGrace]

On second thought I have no clue why I am here. This is a waste of time.

waaaaaaaaaaaaa

[JaneEyre]

waaaaaaaaaaaaa

Hey, girl....I hang around to get your CokeRewards Codes. JUST KIDDING!!!

:heeheehee

[AmazingGrace]

Hey, girl....I hang around to get your CokeRewards Codes. JUST KIDDING!!!

:heeheehee

LOL I got another box today but havent opened it yet so expect another tomorrow :)

I do know your kidding tho and I hang around so that you can pick on me! LOL

PS You have been in my prayers. Hope you are having a good week! :friend

[ReformedDave]

I don't know why I'm here half the time.....

What about the other half...?

[JaneEyre]

LOL I got another box today but havent opened it yet so expect another tomorrow :)

I do know your kidding tho and I hang around so that you can pick on me! LOL

PS You have been in my prayers. Hope you are having a good week! :friend

How is your back?...I have been thinking about you, too. How have you been feeling?? I hope you are much improved!!

[OnTheFritz]

I'm waiting for St. Mark to embrace his inner liberal. I know he's in there somewhere... :lol

[AmazingGrace]

How is your back?...I have been thinking about you, too. How have you been feeling?? I hope you are much improved!!

I have been doing a lot better! Nervous because I am not feeling a big diff yet but its only a week out and they say up to 3 weeks to see any improvement at all so I guess I am just anxious but other than that I am doing ok... appreciate the prayers

[AmazingGrace]

I'm waiting for St. Mark to embrace his inner liberal. I know he's in there somewhere... :lol

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!! I am waiting on Mark to see this post and go nuts all over it too! :ursofunny

[JaneEyre]

I have been doing a lot better! Nervous because I am not feeling a big diff yet but its only a week out and they say up to 3 weeks to see any improvement at all so I guess I am just anxious but other than that I am doing ok... appreciate the prayers

Yes, I have heard that recovery from any type of back surgery is a slow process. I pray that it will be worth it for you. Take it easy and keep drinking those Coke products and staying cool!

Seriously, I appreciate the codes but don't go to any trouble.

God bless and good night. Early shift comes early tomorrow.

[AmazingGrace]

Yes, I have heard that recovery from any type of back surgery is a slow process. I pray that it will be worth it for you. Take it easy and keep drinking those Coke products and staying cool!

Seriously, I appreciate the codes but don't go to any trouble.

God bless and good night. Early shift comes early tomorrow.

I gotta have my coke! LOL... at least its diet now LOL

And yep... I am just taking it slow... appreciate the thoughts and talk to you tomorrow!

[Hoovie]

This post rang true to me when I read it!

Many have wondered why so many of us ex-UPC people hang around here and I know from time to time we've tried to explain it, but the answer for me is just as RD stated - - it's our history.

It's part of my culture of who I am and why I am who I am. To be in contact with others that were raised similar makes it fun to hang around here. It's like a family - we know so many of the same people, have had so many of the same experiences and like the UPC culture thread can laugh about so many of the things we did through the years.

With all the fussing and division at times it's a wonder we even speak to each other from day to day, but it's because we have that common bond.

What's so hard to understand about that? :friend

Why do you hang around here?


What do you mean it's your history?

You are Oneness Pentecostal are you not?

This is not a UPC forum.

[rrford]

Thinking......














:tease

[ReformedDave]

Thinking......














:tease

Why bother...?:whistle

[rrford]

Why bother...?:whistle

Why bother thinking or hanging around?

[ReformedDave]

Why bother thinking or hanging around?

Thinking. No one else here does...........j/k

[rrford]

Thinking. No one else here does...........j/k

Of course not. All of the conservatives left.













:killinme:killinme

[ReformedDave]

Of course not. All of the conservatives left.













:killinme:killinme

Ouch.........I'd better go too.

[Blubayou]

I have not had time to read the whole thread, but I wanted to tell you why I hang around here. First, I consider you my friends, I miss you when we do not interact- I know it is crazy- we have never met. The discussions have made me think, search out the scriptures, and confirm what I believe. I have a history in UPC and love to reminisce about our culture. I love to hear what went on in other parts of the country and how alike we all were/are. Most of all, I love when someone has a need and we all go to prayer- I feel that we bind together and petition God for a need and lift one another up in love.
AND I LOVE THE BREAKING NEWS!!!!!

[live4him]

i like it here, i like to see people get into it-lol just kiddin- where is mark? i would love to see what he is going to say, i read alot of what people put on here thru youtube, - like the hiphop music, and messages from other ministers, this is awesome, but i enjoy my time here when i could see what other people are posting, -love ya all anyway

[jaxfam6]

I like hanging around here because I don't have a life, my brother moved out of town and I have no friends.


:dance


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ever tried being friendly? works wonders
give it a shot sometime.



=)

[Brad Murphy]

I hang around because I'm loved by RCraig and The Mrs.

Me too, there are a handful of people who for some reason like to have me around even with my cynicism and disrespect... if it wasn't for me being encouraged to stay on several occasions, I would probably not be here, so I agree, it is their fault. :)

[rgcraig]

Me too, there are a handful of people who for some reason like to have me around even with my cynicism and disrespect... if it wasn't for me being encouraged to stay on several occasions, I would probably not be here, so I agree, it is their fault. :)

More than a handful like to have your around.............glad you are here!

[Cindy]

Me too, there are a handful of people who for some reason like to have me around even with my cynicism and disrespect... if it wasn't for me being encouraged to stay on several occasions, I would probably not be here, so I agree, it is their fault. :)

If we were all alike, it would be boring. :)

[StMark]

This post rang true to me when I read it!

Many have wondered why so many of us ex-UPC people hang around here and I know from time to time we've tried to explain it, but the answer for me is just as RD stated - - it's our history.

It's part of my culture of who I am and why I am who I am. To be in contact with others that were raised similar makes it fun to hang around here. It's like a family - we know so many of the same people, have had so many of the same experiences and like the UPC culture thread can laugh about so many of the things we did through the years.

With all the fussing and division at times it's a wonder we even speak to each other from day to day, but it's because we have that common bond.

What's so hard to understand about that? :friend

Why do you hang around here?


Renda,

I think what throws a lot of people off is, you people want
to hang out with UPCers yet you are so against the UPC
and have renounced all its teachings.
Why would you all want to associate with something
so awful???
Most people that end up in a divorice sever all
ties even if there were a few good memories.

[StillStanding]

Renda,

I think what throws a lot of people off is, you people want
to hang out with UPCers yet you are so against the UPC
and have renounced all its teachings.
Why would you all want to associate with something
so awful???
Most people that end up in a divorice sever all
ties even if there were a few good memories.
I can't speak for Renda, but I think of UPCers and other conservative Apostolics as family! We share a common DNA. Most of us have share fond memories of moves of God while in the UPC.

I feel I have been enlightened, but still enjoy the friendship of conservative Apostolics because I totally understand their history, beliefs, etc.

[StMark]

I can't speak for Renda, but I think of UPCers and other conservative Apostolics as family! We share a common DNA. Most of us have share fond memories of moves of God while in the UPC.

I feel I have been enlightened, but still enjoy the friendship of conservative Apostolics because I totally understand their history, beliefs, etc.


But did you know that you are viewed by most
as a traitor ??? No, I'm being serious

[StillStanding]

But did you know that you are viewed by most
as a traitor ??? No, I'm being serious

Honestly, that doesn't bother me and I actually expect it! I'm not seeking approval, I'm just seeking friendship! :)

[StMark]

Honestly, that doesn't bother me and I actually expect it! I'm not seeking approval, I'm just seeking friendship! :)


It doesn't bother you??? O yes it does!!! I don't believe that.

[Baron1710]

But did you know that you are viewed by most
as a traitor ??? No, I'm being serious

Good thing most of my friends in the UPC are not like most that you know.

[BrotherEastman]

because I can.

[Michlow]

Because I am stubborn, most likely. ;)

[StMark]

Good thing most of my friends in the UPC are not like most that you know.


Didn't say i viewed them as such but it is more common
then not and PM knows it's true

[StillStanding]

It doesn't bother you??? O yes it does!!! I don't believe that.

Most of my conservative friends are smart enough to not tell me things like that to my face. I would get upset if they made a public spectacle of me.

It doesn't work that way, though. I know their beliefs, and the conclusion that those beliefs lead to. I have no problem with that! Seriously!

For instance, thoughts and conclusions come to my mind when I think about certain people. They would/could be shocked if I vocalized some of these opinions. They probably wonder in their mind if I heard the rumors about them, and what my opinion is! I will never bring these issues up because it could stir things up and end our friendship.

I value the friendship enough to "overlook" our differences.

[rgcraig]

Renda,

I think what throws a lot of people off is, you people want
to hang out with UPCers yet you are so against the UPC
and have renounced all its teachings.
Why would you all want to associate with something
so awful???
Most people that end up in a divorice sever all
ties even if there were a few good memories.

But did you know that you are viewed by most
as a traitor ??? No, I'm being serious

Sounds like it's more of a problem for the ones left in UPC than us.

The generalization that "you are so against the UPC" is just plan silly. I didn't divorce myself from my heritage - - just see things a bit differently.

Also, renounced all it's teachings - - what you really mean is cut your hair and wear pants. The man-made rules! I haven't renounced my Biblical UPC teachings! You just really want to stir it up don't you!

[dizzyde]

I come here for all the salacious gossip. And because DizzyDe paid me to be her friend on here, thus I feel obligated. :)

Lotta good that did me! ... just cause you had a new kid doesn't mean you have to drop off the planet you know!!! I want a refund!! :club

:toofunny

[dizzyde]

Wow such a mushy lovey thread! Sniff sniff not sure what all to say.... I guess I just want to stand and say tonight that I love the forum and that I am so thankful to be here and I am so thankful for all my dear friends... Rhoni, Falla, Scott, Dizzy, Carey and all the rest of you nuts and thats all I have tonight... AMEN!!!!

Next.... Sis Rhoni why dont you stand up and say a word for the forum LOL sorry... Ok I am doing being goofy :)

fyi this was my attempt at a tension breaker as I started to get teary eyed

AWWW, love you too, friend!! :friend

[StMark]

Well folks, look like I offended someone -(wont name who)
i just received a PM and saw the need to apologize here -
I didn't mean to upset anyone at all

[Ron]

Most of my conservative friends are smart enough to not tell me things like that to my face. I would get upset if they made a public spectacle of me.

It doesn't work that way, though. I know their beliefs, and the conclusion that those beliefs lead to. I have no problem with that! Seriously!

For instance, thoughts and conclusions come to my mind when I think about certain people. They would/could be shocked if I vocalized some of these opinions. They probably wonder in their mind if I heard the rumors about them, and what my opinion is! I will never bring these issues up because it could stir things up and end our friendship.

I value the friendship enough to "overlook" our differences.

That says a lot doesn't it.
I have many friends, some more liberal, some more conservative, & most around the moderate end of the scale.
I respect them & they respect me even though we differ on things.

My friendship doesn't compromise what I believe.

[StMark]

That says a lot doesn't it.
I have many friends, some more liberal, some more conservative, & most around the moderate end of the scale.
I respect them & they respect me even though we differ on things.

My friendship doesn't compromise what I believe.


Ron I'm glad you feel that way but I've had several UPCers
come down on me for having XUPC friends. I can't tell you
the looks and comments i've gotten over the years as if I
hung around people that had a disease

[rgcraig]

That says a lot doesn't it.
I have many friends, some more liberal, some more conservative, & most around the moderate end of the scale.
I respect them & they respect me even though we differ on things.

My friendship doesn't compromise what I believe.

That's the key. I respect others and hope they respect me.

Note: it wasn't me that pm'd Mark - - I'm use to his rants trying to rile up us former UPCer's

[Ron]

Well folks, look like I offended someone -(wont name who)
i just received a PM and saw the need to apologize here -
I didn't mean to upset anyone at all

I didn't know you would make my PM Public!!:blush

[Ron]

Ron I'm glad you feel that way but I've had several UPCers
come down on me for having XUPC friends. I can't tell you
the looks and comments i've gotten over the years as if I
hung around people that had a disease

XUPCers are another thing.
If they (I am not saying everyone does this, just a select few) leave with a terrible attitude and/or tried to tear things up then I would not fellowship with them as being them who sow discord.

If they left for either they didn't want to live for God or they just do not find what they are seeking at a UPC Church but have a good attitude, then I will be friends with them.

[Ron]

Sounds like it's more of a problem for the ones left in UPC than us.

The generalization that "you are so against the UPC" is just plan silly. I didn't divorce myself from my heritage - - just see things a bit differently.

Also, renounced all it's teachings - - what you really mean is cut your hair and wear pants. The man-made rules! I haven't renounced my Biblical UPC teachings! You just really want to stir it up don't you!

I don't see them "all" as man made.
I see it this way in differing views on scripture, Bro Blume had a take on a verse of scripture a few years ago and he posted his view on it.
When I questioned him on it, he stated, "don't you see it?"

I said, "I did not." I didn't say he was "wrong", there is a difference.

[Pro31:28]

My in-laws left the UPC because of some things that were going on in a church that they just couldn't overlook. At the time, they had 2 teenagers still at home. My inlaws didn't go out and start living 'in the world', but they did attend an independant church with no other teenagers. One of the things that killed me, was seeing what was done to the kids (by the 'saints').
The 'saints' kids were told by the pastor to have NOTHING to do with them, and so they literally lost every friend they had ever grown up with. Even adults would make a point of walking the other way in the grocery store.
It was enough to make your heart ache. Neither one of them are really living for God today.

[dizzyde]

For me this forum is meeting some very real needs in my life. I think I have mentioned this before, but for the last 10 years or so, I have pretty much been in shell, I haven't really engaged socially with anyone outside of my family and few very close, trusted friends. So this forum is has been a concerted effort for me to push outside of my boundaries and start re-socializing myself.

Also, I don't exactly fit the mold of traditional Pentecostalism, I have been pushed outside of those boundaries by an unusual life. So I don't really fit in with a lot of people that I know socially in "real" life. It is a relief for me to come here and feel like I can question, discuss and even argue about things that I am not free to in "real" life.

The last reason that I come here is one that I think is seriously underrated, is the humor. Some times I just can't believe the brilliance of it, I would seriously pay to read some of the things that Pelathais writes! He needs to do a column or something!

A shout out to some of the people that have made my being here sooo worth the while: Jeannie, AG, Karen, MarthaO & Cindy-love you girls! I hope to get to meet all of you in real life! Kenneth-you are my partner in crime, thanks for being a true friend! Sis. Nancy, thank you so much for loving and caring about me, it means more than you know! A_PoMo, well, there is only one you! St.Mark, it has been fun getting reacquainted after all these years! Baron & Pro31:28, it has been so much fun connecting and reconnecting, I can't wait till Oct.! I know that I am missing people, but I really do love you all!!


Renda-Thanks for all you do around here, I know it is a lot of work!! :friend

[dizzyde]

My in-laws left the UPC because of some things that were going on in a church that they just couldn't overlook. At the time, they had 2 teenagers still at home. My inlaws didn't go out and start living 'in the world', but they did attend an independant church with no other teenagers. One of the things that killed me, was seeing what was done to the kids (by the 'saints').
The 'saints' kids were told by the pastor to have NOTHING to do with them, and so they literally lost every friend they had ever grown up with. Even adults would make a point of walking the other way in the grocery store.
It was enough to make your heart ache. Neither one of them are really living for God today.

My best friend left a UPC church and was treated the same way, it was unbelievable to me. I wasn't raised that way, and I cannot even imagine any way that it could be justifiable, unless the person was just an absolute devil, which, how often is that really the case??

[rgcraig]

Dizz - it does fill the gap, doesn't it?

And you right, the humor around here is unsurpassed at times!

I have to hold my laughter in here at work or people would think I really enjoy my job!

[Pro31:28]

My best friend left a UPC church and was treated the same way, it was unbelievable to me. I wasn't raised that way, and I cannot even imagine any way that it could be justifiable, unless the person was just an absolute devil, which, how often is that really the case??

The thing that hurt me was that the kids had NOTHING to with the choice, but my in-laws couldn't sit back and watch something they didn't feel comfortable with, take place. So the church members (maybe without relaizing it, but I doubt it) made the kids pay the highest price.

[dizzyde]

Dizz - it does fill the gap, doesn't it?

And you right, the humor around here is unsurpassed at times!

I have to hold my laughter in here at work or people would think I really enjoy my job!

Me too!!! :toofunny

[dizzyde]

The thing that hurt me was that the kids had NOTHING to with the choice, but my in-laws couldn't sit back and watch something they didn't feel comfortable with, take place. So the church members (maybe without relaizing it, but I doubt it) made the kids pay the highest price.

Very sad. There is just no excuse.

[Cindy]

Well I laugh a lot but there's usually not anyone around to hear it. And when there is they just ignore it, they all know I'm crazy.:tease

[tamor]

Dizz - it does fill the gap, doesn't it?

And you right, the humor around here is unsurpassed at times!

I have to hold my laughter in here at work or people would think I really enjoy my job!

Me too!!! :toofunny


Me three!! :toofunny

[Ferd]

its really simple. i am addicted.

[rgcraig]

its really simple. i am addicted.

Bottom line, huh? :friend

[Ferd]

Bottom line, huh? :friend

yea pretty much. that and like everyone else around here im a narcisist.

[StillStanding]

yea pretty much. that and like everyone else around here im a narcisist.:ursofunny

[Ferd]

:ursofunny

you know its true!

[tamor]

you know its true!

:toofunny