Preacher Arrested In Church After Wife's Body....

[CC1]

Preacher Arrested in Church After Wife's Body Found In Freezer!

See news aritcle from Fox News online below. This guy apparently was Church of God In Christ in Alabama.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,394925,00.html

[dansamy]

Oh good grief! I live in Mobile County. However, I am not fond of television and my newspaper subscription has lapsed. I hadn't seen any local news coverage of this as a result.

[Sassy]

Preacher Arrested in Church After Wife's Body Found In Freezer!

See news aritcle from Fox News online below. This guy apparently was Church of God In Christ in Alabama.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,394925,00.html

I guess he got tired of the "three burnt sacrifices a day".....

[Sassy]

Preacher Arrested in Church After Wife's Body Found In Freezer!

See news aritcle from Fox News online below. This guy apparently was Church of God In Christ in Alabama.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,394925,00.html

sorry...that was a REALLY bad joke.....

How HORIBBLE!! People get crazier and crazier!

[Jack Shephard]

No matter which way you slice 'er, that's just cold!

:snapout

[Sassy]

No matter which way you slice 'er, that's just cold!

:snapout

ewwww......!!!

[Mrs. LPW]

Cold as a body in a freezer for three years....


Crazy

[Jack Shephard]

The mans name is Anthony Hopkins--Dude he is Hannibal Lecter! Silence of the Lambs.....great movie!

[tamor]

Cold as a body in a freezer for three years....


Crazy


You got that right. This is crazy.

[CC1]

I am amazed no one noticed a mother of 8 missing for three years.

I can just imagine the conversatoins he had during his revivals "Brother how is your wife?"

Answer "Well, she is suffering from a little cold".

[dansamy]

The pastor of the church where he was speaking said he told her his wife had died in childbirth. The article mentions the wife having been missing for 3 years and that the children taken into the DHR system as being in range from 3-something-in-the-teens-but-I-don't-recall-the-number.

Logically, she could have died in childbirth 3 years ago, especially if she had a precipitous delivery at home and some complication arose. Now, what mental disease/defect would cause him to think it was ok to place her body in a freezer? Who knows?

[tamor]

I am amazed no one noticed a mother of 8 missing for three years.

I can just imagine the conversatoins he had during his revivals "Brother how is your wife?"

Answer "Well, she is suffering from a little cold".

That is so bad!! :ursofunny:ursofunny

[CC1]

Now, what mental disease/defect would cause him to think it was ok to place her body in a freezer? Who knows?

I have always read that freezers are more efficient and use less electricity the more you have in them so maybe he was just trying to conserve energy and lower his electric bill.

(I also have a sneaking suspicion that when it all comes out some type of government checks she was receiving and he continued to receive after her death will have played a part even if she died of natural causes).

[rgcraig]

I have always read that freezers are more efficient and use less electricity the more you have in them so maybe he was just trying to conserve energy and lower his electric bill.

(I also have a sneaking suspicion that when it all comes out some type of government checks she was receiving and he continued to receive after her death will have played a part even if she died of natural causes).

You are probably right and she could have died from childbirth and that's the reason he decided to store her!

[Sassy]

I have always read that freezers are more efficient and use less electricity the more you have in them so maybe he was just trying to conserve energy and lower his electric bill.

(I also have a sneaking suspicion that when it all comes out some type of government checks she was receiving and he continued to receive after her death will have played a part even if she died of natural causes).

Freezers are cheaper than funerals for sure!!

I wonder if any of the kids helped with cooking? What did they think was in the freezer? Oh we prepared a new meal tonight dad.....YIKES!!

[dansamy]

(I also have a sneaking suspicion that when it all comes out some type of government checks she was receiving and he continued to receive after her death will have played a part even if she died of natural causes).

I didn't even think of governmental assistance being a reason to hide her death, but that makes perfect sense. Abuse of the government's social welfare programs is really bad down here, with an entitlement mentality that "Uncle Sam owes me" being deeply ingrained.

[StillStanding]

I am amazed no one noticed a mother of 8 missing for three years.

I can just imagine the conversatoins he had during his revivals "Brother how is your wife?"

Answer "Well, she is suffering from a little cold".
:ursofunny:ursofunny CC1, that's one of your funniest to date! :ursofunny
"She's not feeling very well right now. In fact, she's out cold!"

[RandyWayne]

I am amazed no one noticed a mother of 8 missing for three years.

I can just imagine the conversatoins he had during his revivals "Brother how is your wife?"

Answer "Well, she is suffering from a little cold".

Something Sean Connery/James Bond would say! LOL

[RandyWayne]

As Alton Brown would no doubt point out, "the frozen body can act as a capacitor of sorts for regulating the temperature of the freezer in the same manner that a pizza oven regulates the heat in an oven."

[TRFrance]

Gee, I'm kind of surprised by some of these very tasteless jokes.

[Jack Shephard]

Gee, I'm kind of surprised by some of these very tasteless jokes.

You are just upset that you were beaten to the punch....just chill brother.

:tease

[Sassy]

Gee, I'm kind of surprised by some of these very tasteless jokes.

Sorry Mr. France....really wasn't out to offend you or anyone. It is such a horrible act that we had to laugh a little to get over the shock of it!

[Cindy]

Wow, they went looking for an alleged child molester and found a dead body in the freezer. That's the first place cops look for evidence. How dumb can you be?

[Rico]

Is there any proof that she was murdered? I read an article on Yahoo, but it didn't say they had any proof that she was murdered.

[Cindy]

Is there any proof that she was murdered? I read an article on Yahoo, but it didn't say they had any proof that she was murdered.

I don't think they have had time to figure out the cause of death. He alledged she died in childbirth, so why no funeral? More questions than answers.

[RandyWayne]

Sorry Mr. France....really wasn't out to offend you or anyone. It is such a horrible act that we had to laugh a little to get over the shock of it!

Or as Chuckles the Clown always said, "A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down the pants".

Gee, I'm kind of surprised by some of these very tasteless jokes.

Admit it. You'd be the one busting a gut at the funeral.

[CC1]

Gee, I'm kind of surprised by some of these very tasteless jokes.

Uh.....and how long have you been a member of AFF?

On a serious note I know what you mean. It is a terrible situation but sometimes in terrible situations there is humor.

The idea of a man preaching in Pentecostal churches while his dead wife is tucked away in his freezer is pretty bizarre.

[Hoovie]

Gee, I'm kind of surprised by some of these very tasteless jokes.

Just depends on how you fix her. I would recommend a curry marinade or

stuff with turkey duck and chicken. Huturduken

[Hoovie]

Uh.....and how long have you been a member of AFF?

On a serious note I know what you mean. It is a terrible situation but sometimes in terrible situations there is humor.

The idea of a man preaching in Pentecostal churches while his dead wife is tucked away in his freezer is pretty bizarre.

Are you saying this is uncommon??

[TRFrance]

Uh.....and how long have you been a member of AFF?

On a serious note I know what you mean. It is a terrible situation but sometimes in terrible situations there is humor.

The idea of a man preaching in Pentecostal churches while his dead wife is tucked away in his freezer is pretty bizarre.
Well, I'm not trying to be Mr. Stuck-in-the-mud or anything, but I just know if this was my relative who'd died like this, I'd be horrified to come across a thread on a message board where people were making humor out of such a tragic situation.

Anyway, carry on.

[berkeley]

Well, I'm not trying to be Mr. Stuck-in-the-mud or anything, but I just know if this was my relative who'd died like this, I'd be horrified to come across a thread on a message board where people were making humor out of such a tragic situation.

Anyway, carry on.

agreed!

[Rico]

I don't think they have had time to figure out the cause of death. He alledged she died in childbirth, so why no funeral? More questions than answers.

Maybe he didn't have the money? Someone mentioned that she may have been getting some sort of benefits. That could be the reason why too. The article I read said only 6 of the 8 children were his. Any way you look at it, this guy is in trouble with the law.

[Rico]

Well, I'm not trying to be Mr. Stuck-in-the-mud or anything, but I just know if this was my relative who'd died like this, I'd be horrified to come across a thread on a message board where people were making humor out of such a tragic situation.

Anyway, carry on.

I agree. I thought the jokes weren't a good idea. But, what can ya do about it?

[Hoovie]

You all are right, this thread has put a bad taste in my mouth.


I'm sorry.

[RandyWayne]

I am sure the police have frozen this guys assets.

[CC1]

Well, I'm not trying to be Mr. Stuck-in-the-mud or anything, but I just know if this was my relative who'd died like this, I'd be horrified to come across a thread on a message board where people were making humor out of such a tragic situation.

Anyway, carry on.

These would be the same relatives who apparently did not inquire as to her where abouts for three years?

[Hoovie]

I am sure the police have frozen this guys assets.

RW, seriously, this has gotta stop,:snapout Yer killin me!

[Hoovie]

These would be the same relatives who apparently did not inquire as to her where abouts for three years?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkYSDYDc8mE

[CC1]

Mr. Eureka,

I remember "Wipeout" well.

[TRFrance]

These would be the same relatives who apparently did not inquire as to her where abouts for three years?

1...What do you see in that news story that says they didn't inquire about her for three years? I don't see that in the story at all. Are you just assuming that?
(If anything, the story indicated that the man moved from place to place a lot, which may have made it difficult for them to keep track of her.)

2... What does that have to do with the fact it would still be appaling to them to see people making humor about the situation? (I really don't see what one has to do with the other.)

[RandyWayne]

I guess it can be hard to see the humor in this because as it is oft mentioned, we're only reading text and not seeing what was actually going on.

For instance, no one was there to hear the Benny Hill theme playing in the background as he was running around in fast motion trying to stuff her under the frozen meat and peas.

[Rico]

I guess it can be hard to see the humor in this because as it is oft mentioned, we're only reading text and not seeing what was actually going on.

For instance, no one was there to hear the Benny Hill theme playing in the background as he was running around in fast motion trying to stuff her under the frozen meat and peas.

RW, I am disappointed that you have stooped to this level on this thread. I would have expected more from you than this. Acting with callous disregard is not something I would have guessed you would do.

[RandyWayne]

RW, I am disappointed that you have stooped to this level on this thread. I would have expected more from you than this. Acting with callous disregard is not something I would have guessed you would do.

It was the coins fault. Heads - Callous disregard or Tails - irreverent humor.
I had to flip it three times, but it finally came up tails!

[berkeley]

It was the coins fault. Heads - Callous disregard or Tails - irreverent humor.
I had to flip it three times, but it finally came up tails!

Calm down Harvey Dent..

[Scott Hutchinson]

Good greif this happened in my town,I live in Jackson,AL.
Here is a link http://southalabamian.com
I have passed by this church often.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Oh good grief! I live in Mobile County. However, I am not fond of television and my newspaper subscription has lapsed. I hadn't seen any local news coverage of this as a result.

Check out the Mobile Press register,it's on the front page.
Check this out.
http://wkrg.com

[Scott Hutchinson]

This COGIC church is about a mile from my house.

[Hoovie]

This COGIC church is about a mile from my house.

WOW! I hope this is not contagious... you better check the freezer just to be safe...

[Scott Hutchinson]

I'm never been to that church though,btw there was a pastor there several yrs.ago who is a oneness preacher now.

[live4him]

you guys are pretty COLD

[Praxeas]

Oh good grief! I live in Mobile County. However, I am not fond of television and my newspaper subscription has lapsed. I hadn't seen any local news coverage of this as a result.
I get my news on the internet. Try Foxnews.com or even your local stations

[Praxeas]

The pastor of the church where he was speaking said he told her his wife had died in childbirth. The article mentions the wife having been missing for 3 years and that the children taken into the DHR system as being in range from 3-something-in-the-teens-but-I-don't-recall-the-number.

Logically, she could have died in childbirth 3 years ago, especially if she had a precipitous delivery at home and some complication arose. Now, what mental disease/defect would cause him to think it was ok to place her body in a freezer? Who knows?
Mind you, this man with the possible mental disorder was supposed to be an evangelist and was preaching when he was arrested. He was also arraigned for child sexual abuse on a family member, incest

[pelathais]

As Alton Brown would no doubt point out, "the frozen body can act as a capacitor of sorts for regulating the temperature of the freezer in the same manner that a pizza oven regulates the heat in an oven."

Yes, but I'd still throw out the frozen veggies and ice cream.

This one's just too horrifying to contemplate without "gallows humor." And what's with his name? Anthony Hopkins? And twice Fox News has to tell us he's a "small time" preacher.

I hurt inside.

[TRFrance]

I cant help but wonder how much discernment was in operation (or not) at the places this guy was preaching.

[dansamy]

Mind you, this man with the possible mental disorder was supposed to be an evangelist and was preaching when he was arrested. He was also arraigned for child sexual abuse on a family member, incest

Being crazy does not preclude being intelligent. Nor am I saying he actually has a mental disease or disorder. Simply that most of us wouldn't do something like this unless we lost all our senses and were a wee bit off our rockers. ("Us" in this sense means the general mentally healthy populace.)

[TRFrance]

Being crazy does not preclude being intelligent. Nor am I saying he actually has a mental disease or disorder. Simply that most of us wouldn't do something like this unless we lost all our senses and were a wee bit off our rockers. ("Us" in this sense means the general mentally healthy populace.)

Indeed . And there are many intelligent men out there preaching, even though they have zero anointing on their life. But if they know the Word pretty well, can speak well, and are good storytellers, often they can very a lot of success in their preaching career...(ahem)... I mean 'ministry'. :coffee2

[Dr. Vaughn]

The pastor of the church where he was speaking said he told her his wife had died in childbirth. The article mentions the wife having been missing for 3 years and that the children taken into the DHR system as being in range from 3-something-in-the-teens-but-I-don't-recall-the-number.

Logically, she could have died in childbirth 3 years ago, especially if she had a precipitous delivery at home and some complication arose. Now, what mental disease/defect would cause him to think it was ok to place her body in a freezer? Who knows?

It is quite possible that his religious leaning does not believe in physicians.. and perhaps the delivery went bad and he was afraid he would face charges for not getting her medical help.. he might have freaked.. the truth will come out.. if the autopsy indeed reveals she died in childbirth.. he would face no murder charges..... and I suppose it's legal to bury someone wherever you desire.. who knows

[Pro31:28]

Well I asked my husband about the laws regarding putting your dead wife in the freezer, and even if was through natural causes, he said it varies from state to state. But even in the backwoods state of Alabama! :ursofunny
there has to be a law regarding the desecration of a corpse!

Of course I do have a sister who is unmarried with 4 children and her excuse for not marrying her 'baby-daddy' is because they can't afford a wedding... :crazy
Maybe he was waiting until he could afford a funeral... :tease

[MrsMcD]

It's hard to believe someone can go missing and no one report it. It seems at least the 19 year old child would have reported it.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I cant help but wonder how much discernment was in operation (or not) at the places this guy was preaching.

Around here some churches let just about anybody preach,no joke.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I cant help but wonder how much discernment was in operation (or not) at the places this guy was preaching.

People, come on already "discernment?" how about considering the source.

You are all jumping up and down over a COGIC preacher?

This is what happens when you all assume that if someone claims Christ that they are of Christ. Jesus said depart from me who work lawlessness for I NEVER knew you (Mat 7:23 ). Jesus didn't know them, and as with the sons of Sceva (Acts 19:14 ), the demons didn't know them. The demons knew the Apostle Paul, and Christ, but the false ministry they disregarded ( Act 19:15 ).

Sinners do sinner things. Maybe you all should compel these individuals to go further in their experience and come into the truth of Jesus name, instead of making excuses for them. In that way there could be less crowded ice boxes and less seats in the waiting room to Hell.


In Jesus Name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[StillStanding]

Have you all considered that he might have put her in the freezer to preserve her in case God decided to one day raise her from the dead?

In fact, it could have happened and then she froze to death again!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Have you all considered that he might have put her in the freezer to preserve her in case God decided to one day raise her from the dead?

In fact, it could have happened and then she froze to death again!

He put her in the freezer because he murdered her and hid the body.

John Wayne Gacy mudered his victims and hid them under his home.

Jeffrey Dahmer murdered his victims and placed them in freezers.

These are all killers who were lead by hell itself.

Sinners do sinner things.

[rgcraig]

By Jessica Taloney Reporter
.

Published: Wed, July 30, 2008 - 4:58 pm

Jessica Taloney Shocking new information in the gruesome murder of a woman police say was killed by her husband and stuffed in a freezer.

News Five obtained court documents claiming Anthony Hopkins asked one of his children to help hide their mother's body.

According to the search warrant, a sexual affair involving Anthony Hopkins and one of his eight children had been going on for eight years. In the warrant, one of Hopkins' daughters says on or around November 4, 2004, her mother, Arletha Hopkins, caught her dad sexually abusing her in a bathroom at their home. The daughter says that lead to an argument, and the next morning her father asked her to help hide her mom's body in a freezer.

http://www.wkrg.com/investigates/article/shocking_new_details_in_freezer_murder/16412/

[rgcraig]

Guys this is sick and EB is right!

[Dr. Vaughn]

By Jessica Taloney Reporter
.

Published: Wed, July 30, 2008 - 4:58 pm

Jessica Taloney Shocking new information in the gruesome murder of a woman police say was killed by her husband and stuffed in a freezer.

News Five obtained court documents claiming Anthony Hopkins asked one of his children to help hide their mother's body.

According to the search warrant, a sexual affair involving Anthony Hopkins and one of his eight children had been going on for eight years. In the warrant, one of Hopkins' daughters says on or around November 4, 2004, her mother, Arletha Hopkins, caught her dad sexually abusing her in a bathroom at their home. The daughter says that lead to an argument, and the next morning her father asked her to help hide her mom's body in a freezer.

http://www.wkrg.com/investigates/article/shocking_new_details_in_freezer_murder/16412/

Somethings not adding up with the daughters story.....

[rgcraig]

Somethings not adding up with the daughters story.....

Really? Why would you say that?

[TRFrance]

People, come on already "discernment?" how about considering the source.

You are all jumping up and down over a COGIC preacher?

This is what happens when you all assume that if someone claims Christ that they are of Christ. Jesus said depart from me who work lawlessness for I NEVER knew you (Mat 7:23 ). Jesus didn't know them, and as with the sons of Sceva (Acts 19:14 ), the demons didn't know them. The demons knew the Apostle Paul, and Christ, but the false ministry they disregarded ( Act 19:15 ).

Sinners do sinner things. Maybe you all should compel these individuals to go further in their experience and come into the truth of Jesus name, instead of making excuses for them. In that way there could be less crowded ice boxes and less seats in the waiting room to Hell.

Calm down, brother. I am well aware of the essentials of bibilical doctrine...

However, Almost all COGIC preachers have the baptism of the Holy Ghost (yes, the REAL Holy Ghost, like we received). And it is not unheard of for gifts of the spirit to be in operation even in churches that are not Apostolic.

So it's not outrageous to think that a pastor of a COGIC church could have or should have discerned that something was not right with this guy. That's all I'm saying.

[rgcraig]

Calm down, brother. I am well aware of the essentials of bibilical doctrine...

However, Almost all COGIC preachers have the baptism of the Holy Ghost (yes, the REAL Holy Ghost, like we received). And it is not unheard of for gifts of the spirit to be in operation even in churches that are not Apostolic.

So it's not outrageous to think that a pastor of a COGIC church could have or should have discerned that something was not right with this guy. That's all I'm saying.

Really!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Read the latest here.http://www.al.com

[Evang.Benincasa]

Calm down, brother. I am well aware of the essentials of bibilical doctrine...

However, Almost all COGIC preachers have the baptism of the Holy Ghost (yes, the REAL Holy Ghost, like we received). And it is not unheard of for gifts of the spirit to be in operation even in churches that are not Apostolic.

So it's not outrageous to think that a pastor of a COGIC church could have or should have discerned that something was not right with this guy. That's all I'm saying.

So people have the bonafide Holy Ghost and never grow to mature understanding?

By, By Miss American Pie, this nation is a smoked cartridge. Brother France, I cannot say this enough, but it's an attitude like that is leading American churches down the valley of steel to be converted to lamb cutlets.

COGIC, are as Pentecostal as as any other non-denominational church. If someone gets the real Holy Ghost he will not stay in a Trinitarian church.

He will grow up.

Lord bless you

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Scott Hutchinson]

I drove right by that church today.Alot of the churches around here let just about any and everybody preach for them.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Read the latest here.http://www.al.com

Why?

And everyone gets bent out of shape when I say Trinitarians are going to hell and post a picture, and threads like this grow and grow?

Go figure.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Evang.Benincasa]

I drove right by that church today.Alot of the churches around here let just about any and everybody preach for them.


I wonder why? Maybe it's because they don't believe in anything.

Let's face it, most of those churches are just mom and pop businesses.

Where they pray for pay, and the people leave as lost as they came.

[TRFrance]

So people have the bonafide Holy Ghost and never grow to mature understanding?

By, By Miss American Pie, this nation is a smoked cartridge. Brother France, I cannot say this enough, but it's an attitude like that is leading American churches down the valley of steel to be converted to lamb cutlets.

COGIC, are as Pentecostal as as any other non-denominational church. If someone gets the real Holy Ghost he will not stay in a Trinitarian church.


So if someone gets the Holy Ghost in a Trinitarian church but remains Trinitarian.... it's because didnt receive "the real Holy Ghost"?

But if he decides to accept the Oneness doctrine, then he received the real Holy Ghost?

Sorry bro. That does not compute.
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Anyway, to answer your question, yes, a person can have the bona fide Holy Ghost and not come to a mature understanding . Just look at the many Oneness believers who came out of families that were Assemblies of God, Cogic, Chuch of God, where many of their family members had previously received the Holy Ghost . Some of them came to a fuller understanding, and some didnt.

Just because they chose to cling to their Trinity doctrine doesnt mean they didnt receive the Holy Ghost brother. Lets get real here.

Besides, I think it's a bit presumptuous of you to assert that someone didnt receive the same Holy Ghost as you did, just because they dont have the same doctrinal understanding that you do.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Well several yrs.ago this church had a white pastor who is now Jesus Name.
A sister who goes to my church witnessed to that man.

[Evang.Benincasa]

So if someone gets the Holy Ghost in a Trinitarian church but remains Trinitarian.... it's because didnt receive "the real Holy Ghost"?

But if he decides to accept the Oneness doctrine, then he received the real Holy Ghost?

Sorry bro. That does not compute.

I have no problem with you that it doesn't compute, it's obvious, and that is why we are currently have this dialog.

Jesus said be mature as your Father in heaven is mature (Mat 5:48).

If someone stays a Trinitarian it's because he refused to be lead by the Holy Ghost. Big difference.

I'm not talking about polly parroting a doctrine, but an individual hearing the Word and getting understanding. Then we see God work and not man.




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Anyway, to answer your question, yes, a person can have the bona fide Holy Ghost and not come to a mature understanding . Just look at the many Oneness believers who came out of families that were Assemblies of God, Cogic, Chuch of God, where many of their family members had previously received the Holy Ghost . Some of them came to a fuller understanding, and some didnt.

I am pleased to see you understand what I was saying. One must come to understand who Jesus really is. Not one Jehovah Witness will make it to heaven, no matter how much Bible he studies, if he does not allow God to show him the mighty God in Christ.

The Assembly of God believer who refuses to let God show him truth will slip backward away from God and toward their false teachers. They respect the leadership more of man than of the Holy Ghost that they claimed to of received. Those who got the revelation of the scripture about the mighty God in Christ, went on to greater revelations in the Word, when some others went backward. Not all who were baptized in Jesus name walked out of that meeting with the Assembly of God.


Just because they chose to cling to their Trinity doctrine doesnt mean they didnt receive the Holy Ghost brother. Lets get real here.

Hold on, what about those men who went on to believe in dualism, that Jesus was just a man and that their was a greater who was their God.

Sorry but when you go back and truth on the Godhead you have lost who your God is.

The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth, not some truth.

The teaching of Jesus being God is the corner stone of the whole structure of the Kingdom.


Besides, I think it's a bit presumptuous of you to assert that someone didnt receive the same Holy Ghost as you did, just because they dont have the same doctrinal understanding that you do.

My Brother, that is just something you and I will have to be judged for.
You see if someone receives the Holy Ghost they don't go backward "IF" they are ALLOWING the Holy Ghost to be their Master. The ministers are to teach the truth no matter what, and let God do the rest. Paul planted, Apollos watered but God gave the increase. I have met One God believers from all over the United States and abroad, who have a great understanding of the Mighty God in Christ because they allowed the Holy Ghost to lead them as they were taught by Holy Ghost filled preachers and they STUDIED to see if what was being preached was TRUTH.

People will be tossed into Hell because they and their preachers didn't care about the Book. Trinitarians need to be saved, and baptized in Jesus name.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

[MissBrattified]

It is quite possible that his religious leaning does not believe in physicians.. and perhaps the delivery went bad and he was afraid he would face charges for not getting her medical help.. he might have freaked.. the truth will come out.. if the autopsy indeed reveals she died in childbirth.. he would face no murder charges..... and I suppose it's legal to bury someone wherever you desire.. who knows

I'm sure authorities think that if he's capable of raping and sodomizing a relative, he might also be capable of murder. That connection makes sense--if you're capable of one type of violence, it's not such a leap to another capability.

And actually, I don't think it's legal to bury someone wherever you desire. :coffee2

I wonder what he told his children? And why didn't he actually go ahead and bury his wife somewhere? Why put her in the freezer?

They were homeschooling, and if he was evangelizing (e.g., traveling), it stands to reason that his wife was flying "under the radar" anyway, and it would be common for him to show up at revivals without his wife. Therefore, I can see how she wouldn't be missed, as opposed to a pastor's wife.

That doesn't explain why her family didn't notice her missing, though....

Overall, it's a disturbing story.

[MissBrattified]

Somethings not adding up with the daughters story.....

Which part? Things like this have happened before.

[Praxeas]

Being crazy does not preclude being intelligent. Nor am I saying he actually has a mental disease or disorder. Simply that most of us wouldn't do something like this unless we lost all our senses and were a wee bit off our rockers. ("Us" in this sense means the general mentally healthy populace.)
I didn't say anything about being crazy and not being intelligent.

[CC1]

The story this thread is based on has taken a horrific turn. I had hoped that since this husband was a preacher perhaps the wife had died of natural causes and he had just kept her body frozen to keep getting a welfare check or something.

It is the worst possible story. The wife caught this man abusing his daughter sexually in a bathroom November of 2004. They argued and she kicked him out of the house, locking him out. That night he came to his daughters window and talked her into opening it and letting him in. He killed his wife and had the daughter help him put her body in the freezer.

The daugther who is 19 years old now moved out of the home 2 weeks ago and went to officials and told them her father had been sexually abusing her since she was 11 years old and what had happened to her mother.

I cannot imagine the psychological and spiritual scars this 19 year old girl must have from all she has endured and witnessed. I imagine she was afraid that if she told anybody he would kill her also.

Here is a link to the updated story at the Clinton News Network (CNN)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/index.html

[dansamy]

I imagine that's why she didn't come forward until she was safely out of the home.

[Mrs. LPW]

This is truly horrific.

That poor dear girl.

[dansamy]

Can you imagine her fear? He's been abusing her. He kills her mother. Makes her help him hide it. Continues abusing and terrorizing her, probably now with threats of "Remember what happened to your mom? I can kill you too." Or threats of hurting one of her siblings.

[Mrs. LPW]

I can't for the life of me figure out why that man wouldn't have disposed of the body, or the freezer.. or both.
Maybe it was to keep the children in fear.

[TRFrance]

More details on this horrible crime have come out...

CNN.com story: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fYGYUWFfTs

[The Mrs]

Found this at the end of the story...it amazes me...

Of Hopkins' preaching ability, Porter said, "he was a bulls-eye prophet. If he told you something, you could pretty much bank on it."

[dansamy]

That home is very near the community college where I attended nursing school. I graduated in Dec 06, so this poor woman was dead in the freezer while life bustled in the community around the home. It just all feels very surreal to me.

[TRFrance]

Found this at the end of the story...it amazes me...

Of Hopkins' preaching ability, Porter said, "he was a bulls-eye prophet. If he told you something, you could pretty much bank on it."

A child molester, liar, and murderer who is also supposedly a prophet.
Interesting, to say the least.

[Rico]

More details on this horrible crime have come out...

CNN.com story: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fYGYUWFfTs



This is so disgusting! This guy deserves whatever punishment he gets!

[Scott Hutchinson]

This fellow used to reside in a small town called Fairford,AL before residing in Mobile,AL anyways when he lived in Fairford,my father in law who works for the REA the rural electric association used to check his meter.