Is this racist?

[U376977]

This from a link on the Drudge report today.

Adam LaDuca, 21, the former executive director of the Pennsylvania Federation of College Republicans, wrote on his Facebook page in late July that Obama has "a pair of lips so large he could float half of Cuba to the shores of Miami (and probably would.)"

After being forced to resign his postion he commented.....

"And man, if sayin' someone has large lips is a racial slur, then we're ALL in trouble" (Adam LaDuca).


Was it racist or was it an attempt to highlight what may be Osama's cuba policy?

[tstew]

This from a link on the Drudge report today.

Adam LaDuca, 21, the former executive director of the Pennsylvania Federation of College Republicans, wrote on his Facebook page in late July that Obama has "a pair of lips so large he could float half of Cuba to the shores of Miami (and probably would.)"

After being forced to resign his postion he commented.....

"And man, if sayin' someone has large lips is a racial slur, then we're ALL in trouble" (Adam LaDuca).


Was it racist or was it an attempt to highlight what may be Osama's cuba policy?

It was the stupidest thing an executive of any Republican Federation could have said given the perception of the party. What his observation has to do with such an important election escapes me. Why is he even discussing the size of his lips? It is just another example of the juvenile approach that many people take to elections.

[rgcraig]

Racist.

[DividedThigh]

it was stupid, 100% stupid, the dude is an idiot

[Cindy]

And no class.

[Jack Shephard]

There are racists everywhere. He is one of them

[rgcraig]

Okay, what's a crump fest?

One of my employees just used that term.

She said she couldn't decide if she wanted to go to the game this weekend because she'd heard it was mainly a "crump fest".

[MissBrattified]

...Was it racist or was it an attempt to highlight what may be Osama's cuba policy?

Yes.

[Pressing-On]

This is also racism.


What I Saw at the Two Conventions
by Dennis Prager
September 9, 2008

5. At the Democratic Convention, I spoke to a number of blacks, on the radio and privately, who predicted that if Barack Obama loses, most blacks will attribute the loss to racism, especially if McCain wins by a narrow margin. They did not even rule out the possibility of some rioting.

http://townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2008/09/09/what_i_saw_at_the_two_conventions

[rgcraig]

This is also racism.

Yes it is and if that happens, how pitiful!

[tstew]

This is also racism.

I just do not see people rioting as a result.
If he does lose by a narrow margin, you could attribute it in part to those who would vote against him because he's black. If he wins by a narrow margin you could attribute it in part to those who would vote for him because he's black.

[tstew]

Basically, the Black people who care enough about politics in our country to get really involved are not the same ones rioting.

[Pressing-On]

Basically, the Black people who care enough about politics in our country to get really involved are not the same ones rioting.

I think the mindset will always be on Rodney King and when they make comments like that, "we won't rule that (rioting) out", it doesn't bode well for the memory.

But, I agree with you. Intelligent people do not riot.

[Praxeas]

I think there are certain elements that thrive on chaos and racial angst...Jessie Jackson and Al Sharton both do. It's in their best interests.

Even the News thrives on stuff like this and riots are in THEIR best interests too, just like war.

[tamor]

Okay, what's a crump fest?

One of my employees just used that term.

She said she couldn't decide if she wanted to go to the game this weekend because she'd heard it was mainly a "crump fest".

Never heard of that one.

[joyful]

Okay, what's a crump fest?

One of my employees just used that term.

She said she couldn't decide if she wanted to go to the game this weekend because she'd heard it was mainly a "crump fest".

I haven't actually heard that term used but in the context that she said it, I would say that it is in reference to the "krump" dance style and culture which is a more hard hitting urban dance form that started in Los Angeles among African American dancers. It is more raw than hip hop and usually involves dressing like thugs and gang members.

I think that she was basically making what sounds like a somewhat racist comment about the type of people that would be at the game.

[rgcraig]

I haven't actually heard that term used but in the context that she said it, I would say that it is in reference to the "krump" dance style and culture which is a more hard hitting urban dance form that started in Los Angeles among African American dancers. It is more raw than hip hop and usually involves dressing like thugs and gang members.

I think that she was basically making what sounds like a somewhat racist comment about the type of people that would be at the game.

She is black.

[joyful]

She is black.

Hmm...who knows then? Maybe she just really hates the whole street wannabe gang look that she might find on a lot of young men at the game. We can always say more about our own culture than others can get away with.

Or I could be totally wrong. It certainly wouldn't be the first time:tease

[Pressing-On]

Hmm...who knows then? Maybe she just really hates the whole street wannabe gang look that she might find on a lot of young men at the game. We can always say more about our own culture than others can get away with.

Or I could be totally wrong. It certainly wouldn't be the first time:tease

Right, like Bill Cosby. :thumbsup The educational system needs to equip them with -YOU CAN MAKE SOMETHING OF YOURSELF, and I don't think they do.

[rgcraig]

I had the wrong word - - it was Krunk Fest.

[soldoutochrist]

I had the wrong word - - it was Krunk Fest.

Well, she could've meant it as a term for a wild party, although many use the term crunk for crazy drunk as slang

[joyful]

I had the wrong word - - it was Krunk Fest.

Ok, gotcha. She probably meant it's a major party atmosphere. The Krunk Fest is a pretty wild music festival that is held in the Memphis Colosium. I think it's mainly rap music.

[Grey Goo]

racism? I don't know. Stupid? Yes

[tstew]

Undoubtedly stupid, but with racist undertones.

[U376977]

I had the wrong word - - it was Krunk Fest.

Why don't you just ask her?

[rgcraig]

Why don't you just ask her?

She was talking on her cell phone so I don't want to appear that I was listening in - - even thought she was at her desk while talking on the phone.

[jaxfam6]

It was the stupidest thing an executive of any Republican Federation could have said given the perception of the party. What his observation has to do with such an important election escapes me. Why is he even discussing the size of his lips? It is just another example of the juvenile approach that many people take to elections.

maybe he has a lip fetish

[Grey Goo]

The thing is...why is it racist? Because he is black? If I said Angelena Jolie has big lusciou-- oops. If I said Angelena Jolie has big lips is that racist?

[tstew]

The thing is...why is it racist? Because he is black? If I said Angelena Jolie has big lusciou-- oops. If I said Angelena Jolie has big lips is that racist?

Grey Goo, if we lived in a vacuum then a comment about lips would not have any relevance to race. Since we live in America and there has been much said specifically deregatory about Black people and lips, making a "big lip" comment about the first Black major nominee is going to evoke this reaction. Some have undoubtedly spoken of Jolie's lips in a derogatory way and have made connections between her and Black people due to her lips. It was a stupid, immature comment, and I still for the life of me cannot figure out why the President of such a Federation would be moved to talk about Obama's lips anyway.

[Pressing-On]

Grey Goo, if we lived in a vacuum then a comment about lips would not have any relevance to race. Since we live in America and there has been much said specifically deregatory about Black people and lips, making a "big lip" comment about the first Black major nominee is going to evoke this reaction. Some have undoubtedly spoken of Jolie's lips in a derogatory way and have made connections between her and Black people due to her lips. It was a stupid, immature comment, and I still for the life of me cannot figure out why the President of such a Federation would be moved to talk about Obama's lips anyway.

Exactly. Good post, Stew!

[HappyTown]

She is black.

Could be off term of cracker's???

[HappyTown]

The thing is...why is it racist? Because he is black? If I said Angelena Jolie has big lusciou-- oops. If I said Angelena Jolie has big lips is that racist?

lusciou--lips is one thing, floating a boat is another!!!

[U376977]

She was talking on her cell phone so I don't want to appear that I was listening in - - even thought she was at her desk while talking on the phone.

Well I thought I was pretty good at African American slang/ebonics. But this has got me puzzled.

You could'nt say..."Hey Shirley, I was walking by your desk yesterday and I saw you on your cell phone, just as I was passing by I accidentally overheard you say Krunk fest....or something like that....I did not mean to overhear....girl you know I am not nosey....but (LOL) it has bugged me all night....what is Krunk Fest....good Lord.....?" "I feel so out of touch....not keeping up with the lingo....."

She will tell you...not be offended and get the message that you knew she was on a personal call while at work.

Just what I would do.....

[tstew]

Well I thought I was pretty good at African American slang/ebonics. But this has got me puzzled.

You could'nt say..."Hey Shirley, I was walking by your desk yesterday and I saw you on your cell phone, just as I was passing by I accidentally overheard you say Krunk fest....or something like that....I did not mean to overhear....girl you know I am not nosey....but (LOL) it has bugged me all night....what is Krunk Fest....good Lord.....?" "I feel so out of touch....not keeping up with the lingo....."

She will tell you...not be offended and get the message that you knew she was on a personal call while at work.

Just what I would do.....

If she said "Krunk Fest" she was just saying that it would be too rowdy and youth oriented. That is not an inference of violence or thuggery, just not the environment that she apparently wanted to be in. Krunk is a term that is basically started within music as a description of particularly rowdy music designed to get people really excited in clubs and at parties with flashing lights and smoke and stuff :)

[HappyTown]

If she said "Krunk Fest" she was just saying that it would be too rowdy and youth oriented. That is not an inference of violence or thuggery, just not the environment that she apparently wanted to be in. Krunk is a term that is basically started within music as a description of particularly rowdy music designed to get people really excited in clubs and at parties with flashing lights and smoke and stuff :)

I'd say your right! I've never called white folks Krunk Fest before...LOL !!!.;)

[U376977]

If she said "Krunk Fest" she was just saying that it would be too rowdy and youth oriented. That is not an inference of violence or thuggery, just not the environment that she apparently wanted to be in. Krunk is a term that is basically started within music as a description of particularly rowdy music designed to get people really excited in clubs and at parties with flashing lights and smoke and stuff :)

When I was in High School it was called Disco!! LOL

[mfblume]

This from a link on the Drudge report today.

Adam LaDuca, 21, the former executive director of the Pennsylvania Federation of College Republicans, wrote on his Facebook page in late July that Obama has "a pair of lips so large he could float half of Cuba to the shores of Miami (and probably would.)"

After being forced to resign his postion he commented.....

"And man, if sayin' someone has large lips is a racial slur, then we're ALL in trouble" (Adam LaDuca).


Was it racist or was it an attempt to highlight what may be Osama's cuba policy?

Racist.

[tstew]

When I was in High School it was called Disco!! LOL

That's not hip enough for this crowd. We hear disco in elevators :)

[rgcraig]

I'd say your right! I've never called white folks Krunk Fest before...LOL !!!.;)

It wouldn't be white "folks". It the Heritage Football game in Memphis on Saturday.

[rgcraig]

If she said "Krunk Fest" she was just saying that it would be too rowdy and youth oriented. That is not an inference of violence or thuggery, just not the environment that she apparently wanted to be in. Krunk is a term that is basically started within music as a description of particularly rowdy music designed to get people really excited in clubs and at parties with flashing lights and smoke and stuff :)

This is the idea I got from her statement.

[HappyTown]

It wouldn't be white "folks". It the Heritage Football game in Memphis on Saturday.

I was referring to the term Krunk Fest. I've never heard color folks or myself call white folks Krunk Fest, never heard the word before. Thought maybe it was a new sling word. Nor do I live in Tennessee, so I have no ideal if this was an all white or black event.

[rgcraig]

I was referring to the term Krunk Fest. I've never heard color folks or myself call white folks Krunk Fest, never heard the word before. Thought maybe it was a new sling word. Nor do I live in Tennessee, so I have no ideal if this was an all white or black event.

That's what I was trying to say - she didn't call white folks Krunk Fest. It is a black event.

Isn't the proper term now - people of color? Not color folks.

[HappyTown]

That's what I was trying to say - she didn't call white folks Krunk Fest. It is a black event.

Isn't the proper term now - people of color? Not color folks.

It depends where you live, were I live my husbands been called boy and he no boy, most call us the color folks down the road. In Calif it was African Americans. I like to be called a person. We do have skin heads here in Hayden, so we've been called the n word, our kids mutes .

[rgcraig]

It depends where you live, were I live my husbands been called boy and he no boy, most call us the color folks down the road. In Calif it was African Americans. I like to be called a person. We do have skin heads here in Hayden, so we've been called the n word, our kids mutes .

So sad.

I'm with you - - just call us all Americans and be done with it!

[HappyTown]

So sad.

I'm with you - - just call us all Americans and be done with it!

Hey, we agree on something....;)

[U376977]

So sad.

I'm with you - - just call us all Americans and be done with it!

And if they are Christians.....calling each other Brothers and Sisters.

[Scott Hutchinson]

That comment was racist.

[Ferd]

Grey Goo, if we lived in a vacuum then a comment about lips would not have any relevance to race. Since we live in America and there has been much said specifically deregatory about Black people and lips, making a "big lip" comment about the first Black major nominee is going to evoke this reaction. Some have undoubtedly spoken of Jolie's lips in a derogatory way and have made connections between her and Black people due to her lips. It was a stupid, immature comment, and I still for the life of me cannot figure out why the President of such a Federation would be moved to talk about Obama's lips anyway.

exactly. i am glad the guy was forced to resign.

[Scott Hutchinson]

And if they are Christians.....calling each other Brothers and Sisters.

Agreed.