View Full Version : Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
Charnock
10-26-2008, 04:09 PM
This is an ole-time Pennycostal practice. During every service at our campground the boys sit on one side of the church, and the girls on the other. Considering our current culture, Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
All of the games are girls vs. boys.
Boys and girls are always pitted against each other in offerings.
I personally think it is an archaic practice. One that needs to go bye-bye.
I want my boys to like girls.
Seems odd that the church wants them to stay away from each other.
El Predicador
10-26-2008, 04:18 PM
Sounds innocent enough on the surface but then what next, allow the boys and girls to walk around holding hands?
Better to draw the line at complete separation and keep their minds pure and on God.
RandyWayne
10-26-2008, 04:20 PM
Boys... sitting next to girls...?
Oooooooooooo, you got trouble my friend! I say trouble right here in River city!
Charnock
10-26-2008, 04:21 PM
What's wrong with them holding hands?
Would we rather teach them the opposite sex is bad, bad, bad!!!!???
El Predicador
10-26-2008, 04:23 PM
What's wrong with them holding hands?
Would we rather teach them the opposite sex is bad, bad, bad!!!!???
It is not evil, but young men should be at the campground to learn of God. Then when faced with seducing spirits they can be pure until marriage.
RandyWayne
10-26-2008, 04:34 PM
It is not evil, but young men should be at the campground to learn of God. Then when faced with seducing spirits they can be pure until marriage.
This is NOT why most young people go to camp. It IS to meet and flirt with members of the opposite sex. Why do you think that the typical camp meeting can be so easily confused with a Hollywood red carpet premier (as far as cloths go)?
El Predicador
10-26-2008, 04:43 PM
This is NOT why most young people go to camp. It IS to meet and flirt with members of the opposite sex. Why do you think that the typical camp meeting can be so easily confused with a Hollywood red carpet premier (as far as cloths go)?
How sad for you and your children, I would be glad to PM you the location of some conservative camps, where the Word of God is still taught!
It is not evil, but young men should be at the campground to learn of God. Then when faced with seducing spirits they can be pure until marriage.
Then they should have boys camp and girls camp!~
I am not serious. But, hey, boys and girls notice each other. :)
El Predicador
10-26-2008, 05:00 PM
Then they should have boys camp and girls camp!~
Actually that is an excellent idea sister !!!
Cindy
10-26-2008, 05:08 PM
This is NOT why most young people go to camp. It IS to meet and flirt with members of the opposite sex. Why do you think that the typical camp meeting can be so easily confused with a Hollywood red carpet premier (as far as cloths go)?
For some of the girls it is all about fashion.
marthaolivia
10-26-2008, 05:08 PM
Were the men and women separated on the day of Pentecost? Were they not all in one room and one accord or were the men on one side of the room and women on the other?
If there was separation in biblical times, how was Jesus' feet washed by a woman's hair?
Just curious. I've often thought about this subject.
El Predicador
10-26-2008, 05:10 PM
For some of the girls it is all about fashion.
And sadly when they grow up and go to general conference it still is.
Cindy
10-26-2008, 05:11 PM
Were the men and women separated on the day of Pentecost? Were they not all in one room and one accord or were the men on one side of the room and women on the other?
If there was separation in biblical times, how was Jesus' feet washed by a woman's hair?
Just curious. I've often thought about this subject.
I have heard that men and women were separated in the synagogue. And the reason that women were to be silent in the church. Because they were shouting questions to their husbands across the room.
Praxeas
10-26-2008, 05:12 PM
This is an ole-time Pennycostal practice. During every service at our campground the boys sit on one side of the church, and the girls on the other. Considering our current culture, Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
All of the games are girls vs. boys.
Boys and girls are always pitted against each other in offerings.
I personally think it is an archaic practice. One that needs to go bye-bye.
I want my boys to like girls.
Seems odd that the church wants them to stay away from each other.
I think pitting boys vs girls is idiotic. However separating them during service? I don't see the harm. I don't think being separated seating is going to make a boy not like girls...
marthaolivia
10-26-2008, 05:17 PM
I have heard that men and women were separated in the synagogue. And the reason that women were to be silent in the church. Because they were shouting questions to their husbands across the room.
Things haven't changed that much. This still happens today.. :heeheehee
El Predicador
10-26-2008, 05:19 PM
Were the men and women separated on the day of Pentecost? Were they not all in one room and one accord or were the men on one side of the room and women on the other?
If there was separation in biblical times, how was Jesus' feet washed by a woman's hair?
Just curious. I've often thought about this subject.
If they followed Jewish custom and there is no reason to believe they did not, then in all probably they were on separate sides of the room.
In fact women were not even allowed in the temple area. So just congregating in the same building was a major breakthrough, and no doubt was more prevalent among the gentiles than Jews.
As to the second part, women were allowed to enter the room and serve, but outside the family setting they normally did not eat with the men.
HappyTown
10-26-2008, 05:28 PM
This is an ole-time Pennycostal practice. During every service at our campground the boys sit on one side of the church, and the girls on the other. Considering our current culture, Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
All of the games are girls vs. boys.
Boys and girls are always pitted against each other in offerings.
I personally think it is an archaic practice. One that needs to go bye-bye.
I want my boys to like girls.
Seems odd that the church wants them to stay away from each other.
Some wonder why their members have sexual hangups !!!!
HappyTown
10-26-2008, 05:31 PM
This is NOT why most young people go to camp. It IS to meet and flirt with members of the opposite sex. Why do you think that the typical camp meeting can be so easily confused with a Hollywood red carpet premier (as far as cloths go)?
Randy....Now some of us went just for the food...;)
:ursofunny I agree, I went for guys!:tease
George
10-26-2008, 06:05 PM
This is an ole-time Pennycostal practice. During every service at our campground the boys sit on one side of the church, and the girls on the other. Considering our current culture, Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
All of the games are girls vs. boys.
Boys and girls are always pitted against each other in offerings.
I personally think it is an archaic practice. One that needs to go bye-bye.
I want my boys to like girls.
Seems odd that the church wants them to stay away from each other.
I totally agree with you.
RandyWayne
10-26-2008, 06:18 PM
How sad for you and your children, I would be glad to PM you the location of some conservative camps, where the Word of God is still taught!
It has nothing to do with the Word of God or how it is taught. It is all about the birds and the bees. In conservative circles especially! When young people (and single adults) are continually isolated from others outside the four walls of THEIR church, camp meetings become all the more important for hormone driven activities, or the promise of such.
I think it's best to teach kids proper behavior and let them intermingle. Keeping them apart causes more problems than it helps, I think.
marthaolivia
10-26-2008, 06:46 PM
All I do know is that if I lived back in biblical times, I would want to be in the same room and as close to Jesus as I could be--probably sitting at His feet.
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In fact women were not even allowed in the temple area. So just congregating in the same building was a major breakthrough, and no doubt was more prevalent among the gentiles than Jews.
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Diagrams of the Temple show that the Beautiful Gate (Acts 3:2) was an entrance into the Women's Court from Solomon's Porch (Acts 3:11 and 5:12). It seems that the early believers gathered in that part of the temple. Even Gentiles could access Solomon's Porch.
I thought camp meetings, youth rallies, etc. were great places for guys and girls to meet and develop relationships. Young people have a lot more choice in a setting like this than just the same ones they see all the time at the local church.
Sure, I can see separate seating during services and separate places at the altar for guys and girls, but they're gonna get together after the service. If they didn't, it would not be quite natural.
Guys against girls in teams and competition? That hardly seems fair.
Guys are generally brawnier and girls are generally smarter.
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Guys against girls in teams and competition? That hardly seems fair.
Guys are generally brawnier and girls are generally smarter.
Hope that didn't sound too sexist.
Reminds me of two things:
1. Question: Why are blonde jokes usually so short?
Answer: so guys can remember them.
2. Suspended on a Rope
Eleven people were hanging on a rope, under a helicopter, 10 men and 1 woman. The rope was not strong enough to carry them all, so they decided that one had to leave, because otherwise they were all going to fall.
They weren't able to choose that person, until the woman gave a very touching speech. She said that she would voluntarily let go of the rope because, as a woman, she was used to giving up everything for her husband and kids or for men in general. She was used to always making sacrifices with little in return.
As soon as she finished her speech, all the men started clapping.
Sam,
Your avatar is making me skeered. :notme
Charnock
10-26-2008, 07:59 PM
The Catholics separate their boys from their girls.
Boys = Priests, Girls = nuns.
That seems to have worked really well, huh?
lol
meBNme
10-26-2008, 08:53 PM
This is an ole-time Pennycostal practice. During every service at our campground the boys sit on one side of the church, and the girls on the other. Considering our current culture, Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
All of the games are girls vs. boys.
Boys and girls are always pitted against each other in offerings.
I personally think it is an archaic practice. One that needs to go bye-bye.
I want my boys to like girls.
Seems odd that the church wants them to stay away from each other.
Considering our current culture.......
No matter what the current culture, Teenage boys and girls will be attracted and distracted by each other.
Afraid they will turn gay? Tell a teenager not to do something and what do they want to do more than anything else?
Separate them during services and they just want to be around each other more everywhere else.
Let them sit together...... well, lets enter the mind, emotions and hormones of a teenager for a bit eh?
"Great, I'm looking forward to camp, and all the awesome preaching, all my friends, no parents, and the GIRLS!! WOOHOOO!!!"
Now let them sit together during service.
Awesome, I can't believe she actually said OK! Now I'm sitting right beside her, and she is gorgeous!! I hope all my friends can see me now!
Oh my God, our elbows just touched on the seat armrest, I hope she doesnt freak out..... I hope I don't freak out. Alright now, I have to make sure I worship so her pastor doesnt think I'm a backslider. But I don't want to look wacked out or bump into her.... no wait..... I actually DO want to bump into her!
O Lord her hair is so ...... MAN!! and she has the greatest perfume ever put in a bottle.... Uh oh... I hope she likes my cologne, did I put on enough? I hope I didn't put on too much! I wonder if We can sit together for the next service? Should I ask her right after this one or wait till later? Oh man, here comes the preacher down the isle, he sure is preaching good tonight. umm... I'm not sure what the subject is, but he's preaching it hard! Oh yeah, not giving into peer pressure and live for God all your life, that's right. Oh I sure would love to life for God all my life with HER by my side! I wonder how much she likes me? GULP!! Our legs just bumped!!!!!! OK... OK, don't hyperventilate here, ...did she notice? Did she do it on purpose? Does she think I did it on purpose? I wonder what she would do I I touched her hand?
O lord will this service EVER be over? I wonder if...... whats going on? What the.....? WOW, church is already over! Should I go to the altar like everyone else? Man, there sure are a lot of people crying and pouring into the altar. I wonder what they are crying about? Wow, it looks like God really moved in this service, I'll have to get the cd to hear it. It looks like most everybody was moved by the preaching. I wish I knew what he said.
But hey! At least she is still here beside me! Look at that, everyone around us went to the altar, but she and I are still standing back here..... together!
Maybe she really DOES like me!
And that's the ones who actually came to camp wanting to GET something from God and hear some preaching. What about the ones who only came to get a boyfriend/girlfriend?
El Predicador
Silent No More Join Date: Jun 2008
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
This is NOT why most young people go to camp. It IS to meet and flirt with members of the opposite sex. Why do you think that the typical camp meeting can be so easily confused with a Hollywood red carpet premier (as far as cloths go)?
How sad for you and your children, I would be glad to PM you the location of some conservative camps, where the Word of God is still taught!
Teach the world all you want, but we are still human, and teenager are still children entering adulthood. With childlike discipline and adult like hormones.
13 going on 30.
Why are they conservative? Because it is enforced. Let em sit where they want, hang with whoever they want, listen to whatever they want, do whatever they want, and by next years camp they will make the liberal camps look conservative.
Jermyn Davidson
10-26-2008, 09:18 PM
This is an ole-time Pennycostal practice. During every service at our campground the boys sit on one side of the church, and the girls on the other. Considering our current culture, Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
All of the games are girls vs. boys.
Boys and girls are always pitted against each other in offerings.
I personally think it is an archaic practice. One that needs to go bye-bye.
I want my boys to like girls.
Seems odd that the church wants them to stay away from each other.
The separation is a good idea.
1) It makes getting to interact with a girl that much more of a challenge to conquer. If its too easy it won't be appreciated.
2) School systems are actually turning to this as a positive way to educate their children-- allows for greater focus and much more productive students.
MissBrattified
10-26-2008, 09:25 PM
It depends on why you do it and how it's presented. There are times when its appropriate and even needful. But separating boys and girls simply because of an inordinate fear of impropriety or immorality does way more harm than good.
Even the most ultra-con churches have problems with immorality, so the "no-touch" rules obviously DON'T work.
I vote for relaxed but well-supervised environments.
It really irritates me when adults tease children for being in the vicinity of the opposite sex--even when it's obvious they're just interacting on the friendly level. It shows the adult's discomfort with normal situations. I want my children to feel at ease with the opposite sex. There does NOT need to be an "electric" atmosphere simply because a boy sits next to my daughter in class--because that's somehow taboo. Nor am I the sort to go through the roof if a guy slings his arm around my daughter's shoulders.
Kids need to be taught what is appropriate, friendly, or familial--not that touch or interaction is altogether wrong.
I knew a trinity holiness church that taught no touch at all, until marriage. They also taught that father's shouldn't show physical affection to their daughters, and vice-versa for sons and mothers. Weird. And stupid.
meBNme
10-26-2008, 09:41 PM
I want to clarify something.
I am only supportive of separating the boys from girls during church services.
The most important thing then is that they focus on God. It's enough of a challenge focusing on the service when the object of your desires is sitting the next isle over. Mix em all up and concentration goes out the window.
otherwise, of course they need to mingle and socialize. As for contests involving Boys against Girls, if done right, it can really be a way to get them involved, enthusiastic and exited about it.
We must remember, just as men are different from women, teens are different from adults. We cannot approach things for teens the way we would as adults, we will lose our teens. They are not merely children, and they are not yet fully adults. Look back to your teenage years. Who were the most influential people in your lives?
Were they the "adults" that expected you to "Behave, grow up, act mature, and be an example" or were they the ones who made the effort to understand you, your challenges, your thoughts. The ones who got on your level and realized that teens will be teens, so they must learn how to reach you. Not just set rules or give you the reins to your own life and expect you to turn out OK.
MissBrattified
10-26-2008, 09:49 PM
I want to clarify something.
I am only supportive of seperating the boys from girls during church services.
I get what you're saying, meBNme. But...I attended a church once that separated men and women during prayer at the altar--even married couples. I HATED it. Anytime my husband and I wish to pray together, that should be a welcome part of church service. Now, have I seen some touchy-feely folks that took things too far? Sure. Anyone who's been around church awhile has. But that doesn't mean we should all be punished and kept from normalcy because a few idiots don't know what "appropriate touch" means.
The most important thing then is that they focus on God. It's enough of a challenge focusing on the service when the object of your desires is sitting the next isle over. Mix em all up and concentration goes out the window.
I think it depends on what the environment is the rest of the time, whether this holds true for a church service.
In some churches, if there has been rampant immorality among the youth group, I can see how it could be necessary, but I think, at best, it's only a temporary solution. The real problem is not praying together, is it? LOL!!!!
Encryptus
10-26-2008, 09:56 PM
Girls are the debbil ....
Bobby Bouche's momma- Waterboy
meBNme
10-26-2008, 10:09 PM
I get what you're saying, meBNme. But...I attended a church once that separated men and women during prayer at the altar--even married couples. I HATED it. Anytime my husband and I wish to pray together, that should be a welcome part of church service. Now, have I seen some touchy-feely folks that took things too far? Sure. Anyone who's been around church awhile has. But that doesn't mean we should all be punished and kept from normalcy because a few idiots don't know what "appropriate touch" means.
I agree 100%. I think it is VERY important for families to pray together in church. I do not advocate separating men and women, just teenage boys and teenage girls during the actual service.
I like how our church does it.
We have the youth section, right up front during church services. One side boys, one side girls. They can also sit with parents.
Classroom teaching, other events there is no separation.
I HIGHLY recommend camp meeting services have the separation during church.
I knew a trinity holiness church that taught no touch at all, until marriage. They also taught that father's shouldn't show physical affection to their daughters, and vice-versa for sons and mothers. Weird. And stupid.
Whoever taught this was apparently afraid of something....for themselves. Too bad they hurled it onto everybody else too.
I get what you're saying, meBNme. But...I attended a church once that separated men and women during prayer at the altar--even married couples. I HATED it. Anytime my husband and I wish to pray together, that should be a welcome part of church service. Now, have I seen some touchy-feely folks that took things too far? Sure. Anyone who's been around church awhile has. But that doesn't mean we should all be punished and kept from normalcy because a few idiots don't know what "appropriate touch" means.
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The church I came into and attended for 9 years....at the altar men on one side, women on the other....always....
Jack Shephard
10-27-2008, 10:52 AM
I see no big deal in it. Though better safe than sorry. What make me scratch my head is that it seems that people think that all kids are sex crazed. I think that the chances of a kid not paying attention is greater when it is all boy and all girls seperate. I was youth pastor for a good while and that was my observation. Switched it up. Row 1 boys, row 2 girls and stager it that way then you get the same seperation. At my church the youth groups is very girl heavy. It is 7 to 1 ratio easy.
Sister Alvear
10-27-2008, 11:47 AM
It is a natural thing for opposite sexes to attract...
Jack Shephard
10-27-2008, 12:49 PM
It is a natural thing for opposite sexes to attract...
You are right, but not too often during a church service
freeatlast
10-27-2008, 03:06 PM
I get what you're saying, meBNme. But...I attended a church once that separated men and women during prayer at the altar--even married couples. I HATED it. Anytime my husband and I wish to pray together, that should be a welcome part of church service. Now, have I seen some touchy-feely folks that took things too far? Sure. Anyone who's been around church awhile has. But that doesn't mean we should all be punished and kept from normalcy because a few idiots don't know what "appropriate touch" means.
I think it depends on what the environment is the rest of the time, whether this holds true for a church service.
In some churches, if there has been rampant immorality among the youth group, I can see how it could be necessary, but I think, at best, it's only a temporary solution. The real problem is not praying together, is it? LOL!!!!
Many UPC's are like this
About three years ago we taked about this with our church and encouraged them all to did regard the "men and womens "sides of the altar and to intermingle.
Our guest is one of the reasons for this.
How often has a guest responed to an altar call and unknowingly went to the wrong side of the altar and been embarrased when they realized this.
It's been working goo for us so far for over three years and not one has fallen ito adultery over praying next ot a person of the oppsite gender yet.
jediwill83
10-27-2008, 05:13 PM
Well...I never had any girls in church my age to go out with.I met my wife at camp and we have been married for 4.5 years.I like what we had at la. camp.yes...we were there for the social aspect....but we also had awesome moves of God....you CAN have both u know.hehe.But the getting treated like a sex fiend for wanting to hold hands would get old fast.To this day I feel awkward kissing my wife in public....wish I didnt...guess its all those ''Hangups''
Sept5SavedTeen
10-27-2008, 05:36 PM
As a brother who's 19- I couldn't be more grateful to be in the assembly I am in, and to have been able to go to a good camp last summer. In my assembly the guys and girls have their areas where they sit, and even the engaged couples (there are none right now) don't sit together, we think there should be some things that shouldn't be taken away from newly married couples, like getting to sit together for the first time in the assembly hall.
Also, at camp- if the preacher isn't making hookey jokes about guys and girls getting together, and if you separate the guys and girls, but don't make a federal case of it, they just know that's the way it's going to be, you don't have minds wandering. The brothers have a good time together, the sisters have a good time together, and you're at camp to get something from GOD and have NO distractions. You can get a wife at socials back home, where the focus is NOT supposed to be a week away from home, work, the distractions of modern living, and you can focus on service, fellowship and activities (which is what camp is supposed to be).
Why don't we raise the courting age to 20? Does anyone want to live holy anymore?
-Bro. Alex
jediwill83
10-27-2008, 05:55 PM
There was no social life back home! I lived out in the middle of nowhere.I believe that u need experiance interacting with the opposite sex....last time I checked babies dont come from holding hands"Cooties but not babies" and neither does sitting next to each other...."But Master Jedi u say...we need boundaries!" and I agree but the next logical step from holding hands is NOT sex!Maybe im different...i dunno.
Charnock
10-27-2008, 06:04 PM
As a brother who's 19- I couldn't be more grateful to be in the assembly I am in, and to have been able to go to a good camp last summer. In my assembly the guys and girls have their areas where they sit, and even the engaged couples (there are none right now) don't sit together, we think there should be some things that shouldn't be taken away from newly married couples, like getting to sit together for the first time in the assembly hall.
Also, at camp- if the preacher isn't making hookey jokes about guys and girls getting together, and if you separate the guys and girls, but don't make a federal case of it, they just know that's the way it's going to be, you don't have minds wandering. The brothers have a good time together, the sisters have a good time together, and you're at camp to get something from GOD and have NO distractions. You can get a wife at socials back home, where the focus is NOT supposed to be a week away from home, work, the distractions of modern living, and you can focus on service, fellowship and activities (which is what camp is supposed to be).
Why don't we raise the courting age to 20? Does anyone want to live holy anymore?
-Bro. Alex
Dude, you're scaring me.
It is not unholy to be attracted to the opposite sex.
Not everybody wants to wait until they go to Bible School to find a boyfriend or girlfriend.
We preach that our kids should not date/marry those who are unbelievers but we don't want them hanging out, or sitting with, or socializing with, or dating other believers at camp or at youth rallies?
jediwill83
10-27-2008, 06:12 PM
I was 18 before I started dating....not cause I couldnt or didnt want to but because there was no one I wanted to date....believe it or not sex was not my goal in dating...I was just lonely.I wasnt good looking and confident"like I am now" hehe...age isnt always the best proof of maturity.Some people I know should be barred from dating into their thirties.Or better yet raise the age to where they are so old they cant remember why they wanted to date in the first place.lol
tstew
10-27-2008, 06:14 PM
As a brother who's 19- I couldn't be more grateful to be in the assembly I am in, and to have been able to go to a good camp last summer. In my assembly the guys and girls have their areas where they sit, and even the engaged couples (there are none right now) don't sit together,
Maybe some cause and effect? :)
we think there should be some things that shouldn't be taken away from newly married couples, like getting to sit together for the first time in the assembly hall.
I probably shouldn't be the one to tell you this, but there are already some things that newly married couples have that seperates them :)
Also, at camp- if the preacher isn't making hookey jokes about guys and girls getting together, and if you separate the guys and girls, but don't make a federal case of it, they just know that's the way it's going to be, you don't have minds wandering. The brothers have a good time together, the sisters have a good time together, and you're at camp to get something from GOD and have NO distractions. You can get a wife at socials back home, where the focus is NOT supposed to be a week away from home, work, the distractions of modern living, and you can focus on service, fellowship and activities (which is what camp is supposed to be).
Why don't we raise the courting age to 20? Does anyone want to live holy anymore?
-Bro. Alex
I'm just messing with you a little Bro. I can appreciate your stances and pray that God strengthens you.
Sherri
10-27-2008, 06:20 PM
I don't understand keeping the boys and girls separated. We want our boys to like girls and not other boys, right? I think things like this, plus NOT encouraging them to play sports, encourages effeminacy among Penteocostal young men! JMHO.:aaa
tstew
10-27-2008, 06:21 PM
I don't understand keeping the boys and girls separated. We want our boys to like girls and not other boys, right? I think things like this, plus NOT encouraging them to play sports, encourages effeminacy among Penteocostal young men! JMHO.:aaa
Doh...don't leave me in here after you dropped that bomb. :aaa
jediwill83
10-27-2008, 06:24 PM
Oh by the way...on top of being from a church of 14 and being in the middle of nowhere did I mention I was home schooled?Yep,my social life was rockin lemme tell ya and we never had youth revivals and the girls in the church down the road were not dating material.So yes,youth camp was actually the highlight of my social life,such as it was.See,I actually DID live for God the best I could the rest of the year so I wasnt spending camp trying to be something I wasnt the rest of the year.
tstew
10-27-2008, 06:27 PM
Oh by the way...on top of being from a church of 14 and being in the middle of nowhere did I mention I was home schooled?Yep,my social life was rockin lemme tell ya and we never had youth revivals and the girls in the church down the road were not dating material.So yes,youth camp was actually the highlight of my social life,such as it was.See,I actually DID live for God the best I could the rest of the year so I wasnt spending camp trying to be something I wasnt the rest of the year.
Jedi, I think that a lot of young people fall in your category, and I do believe that practical socializing is something that we must consider.
jediwill83
10-27-2008, 06:30 PM
Im just glad I have who I have...I actually proposed to her at youth camp.
Sam,
Your avatar is making me skeered. :notme
Is this one better?
Sept5SavedTeen
10-27-2008, 06:48 PM
Dude, you're scaring me.
It is not unholy to be attracted to the opposite sex.
Where did I say it was unholy to be attracted to the opposite sex? It is unholy to have our focus off of GOD when it's time to meet together for worship.
-Bro. Alex
freeatlast
10-27-2008, 07:05 PM
As a brother who's 19- I couldn't be more grateful to be in the assembly I am in, and to have been able to go to a good camp last summer. In my assembly the guys and girls have their areas where they sit, and even the engaged couples (there are none right now) don't sit together, we think there should be some things that shouldn't be taken away from newly married couples, like getting to sit together for the first time in the assembly hall.
Also, at camp- if the preacher isn't making hookey jokes about guys and girls getting together, and if you separate the guys and girls, but don't make a federal case of it, they just know that's the way it's going to be, you don't have minds wandering. The brothers have a good time together, the sisters have a good time together, and you're at camp to get something from GOD and have NO distractions. You can get a wife at socials back home, where the focus is NOT supposed to be a week away from home, work, the distractions of modern living, and you can focus on service, fellowship and activities (which is what camp is supposed to be).
Why don't we raise the courting age to 20? Does anyone want to live holy anymore?
-Bro. Alex
I think the highlighted portion of your post explains the position you hold. :ursofunny
jediwill83
10-27-2008, 07:06 PM
But brother! I have Bible for being distracted! For whatsoever things are lovely.....hehe...seriously though...I understand ur point.
LaVonne
10-27-2008, 07:22 PM
This is an ole-time Pennycostal practice. During every service at our campground the boys sit on one side of the church, and the girls on the other. Considering our current culture, Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
All of the games are girls vs. boys.
Boys and girls are always pitted against each other in offerings.
I personally think it is an archaic practice. One that needs to go bye-bye.
I want my boys to like girls.
Seems odd that the church wants them to stay away from each other.
No kidding! My husband was raised in a UPC church and attended the church school most of school years and it was the same thing. Actually, in his school the boys couldn't even play against the girls in case they accidentally touched each other. There was so much fear instilled in the opposite sex that my husband still to this day struggles with knowing how to interact with ladies.
Scott Hutchinson
10-27-2008, 08:01 PM
I guess they are afraid if a boy and girl accidentally touch the chemical factory will explode.
jediwill83
10-27-2008, 08:13 PM
Geez...I was never THAT bad off.lol
LaVonne
10-27-2008, 08:31 PM
I guess they are afraid if a boy and girl accidentally touch the chemical factory will explode.
Yep!
My BIL when he was a young boy was caught by the Pastor holding hands with a girl and he told her that's how girls got pregnant. No wonder my husband's family is so messed up!
Is this one better?
Verbal Bean, right?
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yes,
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RandyWayne
10-27-2008, 10:56 PM
Yep!
My BIL when he was a young boy was caught by the Pastor holding hands with a girl and he told her that's how girls got pregnant. No wonder my husband's family is so messed up!
So THAT is where my son came from!
And of course once you finally were married, then sex was to ONLY be done at night, in bed, in the dark, and fully clothed!
webdesigner
10-27-2008, 11:13 PM
In our church, unmarried , and young boys is separated from girls to have them focus on the word of God and not from flirting.
meBNme
10-30-2008, 07:53 PM
I don't understand keeping the boys and girls separated. We want our boys to like girls and not other boys, right? I think things like this, plus NOT encouraging them to play sports, encourages effeminacy among Penteocostal young men! JMHO.:aaa
So separating girls and boys during a service will make em go gay?
I was 2 when My mother started taking me to church.
Our church has ALWAYS taken a stand on not participating in organized sports. Our youth group separated the boys and girls two years after my class was promoted to the youth group, its been that way now for the last 19 years.
Now, we didn't participate in organized sports, but we sure didn't run around in ballet tutu's making needlepoint rainbows either.
We got together for pickup football, basket ball, roller hockey etc.
We thought you were a sissy if you wanted to play anything BUT full contact tackle football, or whined about body checking in hockey.
Our youth group has averaged from 15 to 65 the entire 19 years since I joined.
WE HAVE NEVER had one person grow up in our church who turned out gay.
We have however had many couples who saved themselves until marriage, numerous couples who dated from their youth group days, got married and have wonderful marriages and happy families.
Three youth groups before mine had bad records for backslidden teens.
At the youth camps, we certainly didn't have the best behavior award presented to our youth groups. My group had a lot of backsliders, most of them from the same class I was in. Very shortly after we made different sections during service, those groups started doing MUCH better.
Was it all due to separating the boys from the girls during services and not participating in organized sports? Of course not, but having been a part of it from both sides I am 100% convinced it had a large part in reaching, and keeping our teens.
We have never separated sexes during anything but the actual service, (Nor during altar calls) and certainly not adults or families.
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