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Charnock
10-29-2008, 02:56 PM
"No one who has been baptized in Jesus Name or has even an ounce of morality could vote for the Baby Killer, Terrorist Lover, Obama. (sic)"
Saw this somewhere else.
Jermyn Davidson
10-29-2008, 02:57 PM
no.
clgustaveson
10-29-2008, 03:01 PM
Didn't know you measured morality in ounces... learn something new every day.
Jermyn Davidson
10-29-2008, 04:56 PM
Didn't know you measured morality in ounces... learn something new every day.
morality in ounces, justice by pounds.
clgustaveson
10-29-2008, 05:07 PM
morality in ounces, justice by pounds.
You must be a pretty straight forward kind of person than... :ursofunny
Michael The Disciple
10-29-2008, 06:05 PM
I have to agree. No one who has ever seen the abortion videos and they claim the Holy Ghost could vote for such a man.
marthaolivia
10-29-2008, 06:13 PM
I have to agree. No one who has ever seen the abortion videos and they claim the Holy Ghost could vote for such a man.
I agree.
I think a Christian could vote for Obama. I wouldn't agree....but a vote is just a vote. It doesn't mean they agree with everything Obama stands for.
George
10-29-2008, 06:24 PM
Not sure that I agree with this statement, but I do wonder how people, who profess christianity and claim to live moral lives, can vote for the most liberal of all. Even Obama's peers have given him the label of most liberal.
Pragmatist
10-29-2008, 06:27 PM
No.
I am a strong conservative, and I could see how someone could vote for Obama, if they were a lifelong Democrat and identified more with that party. It's not like I think McCain is the best choice out there; he just happens to be the Republican nominee.
Michael The Disciple
10-29-2008, 07:31 PM
Ok take the challenge. Watch this video.
http://www.durarealidad.com/?ds=1
I will say it till the end of time. Whoever strengthens the hands of the wicked will not be held innocent.
Scott Hutchinson
10-29-2008, 07:40 PM
I just say this if a person is a Christian and is considering voting for Obama,they should pray about it.
I don't hate Obama voters,a person has the right to vote as they choose.
iceniez
10-29-2008, 07:50 PM
I promised myself I was not going to get involved. I knew I should not have read this , I'm clicking off. Just way to upsetting.
Michael The Disciple
10-29-2008, 07:51 PM
I just say this if a person is a Christian and is considering voting for Obama,they should pray about it.
I don't hate Obama voters,a person has the right to vote as they choose.
Yes they have a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT not a Christian right to vote who they want. I feel they also must be warned if they would vote to put a man who VERY STRONGLY supports child killing and aggressivly pushes the sodomite agenda over them they will pay for it at the hand of YHWH.
And I dont hate him or anybody that I know of. But I do hate the evil they do.
clgustaveson
10-29-2008, 07:53 PM
I promised myself I was not going to get involved. I knew I should not have read this , I'm clicking off. Just way to upsetting.
k
I just say this if a person is a Christian and is considering voting for Obama,they should pray about it.
I don't hate Obama voters,a person has the right to vote as they choose.
yes, they have a right to vote as they choose,
but how can they choose to kill all those babies?
a vote for Barack Obama is a vote to promote abortion.
Scott Hutchinson
10-29-2008, 09:03 PM
I'm not voting for Obama,and I certainly do feel Christians should vote for those who have biblical values.
Truthseeker
10-29-2008, 09:14 PM
could a christian vote for a candidate that takes care of the rich and let the lower classes carry the load?
rgcraig
10-30-2008, 06:16 AM
could a christian vote for a candidate that takes care of the rich and let the lower classes carry the load?
Has it occured to anyone that the rich are the ones that own the businesses that allow the lower classes to have jobs?
If you make $75K a year are you willing to give 40% of your pay to someone making $25K?
MrsMcD
10-30-2008, 06:20 AM
I dread to see what this world is going to be like a few years from now!! God please help us Christians to endure.
Light
10-30-2008, 08:00 AM
Not sure that I agree with this statement, but I do wonder how people, who profess christianity and claim to live moral lives, can vote for the most liberal of all. Even Obama's peers have given him the label of most liberal.
What has liberal have to do with being a christian??
If Jesus was living now and running for office you would not vote for him because he would be called a trouble maker he eats with sinners. He wants to help the poor.
marthaolivia
10-30-2008, 08:36 AM
What has liberal have to do with being a christian??
If Jesus was living now and running for office you would not vote for him because he would be called a trouble maker he eats with sinners. He wants to help the poor.
He may have eaten with the sinners but I don't think He condoned the sins. I don't think he condoned abortion or performed same sex marriages either.
ReformedDave
10-30-2008, 08:40 AM
I think this subject is not as cut and dry as we like to think.......
Jack Shephard
10-30-2008, 08:45 AM
I don't agree. Anyone "could" vote for whomever they want. Should they is a different question.
ReformedDave
10-30-2008, 09:02 AM
What has liberal have to do with being a christian??
If Jesus was living now and running for office you would not vote for him because he would be called a trouble maker he eats with sinners. He wants to help the poor.
I don't think helping the poor is only a conservative or liberal position. They disagree on HOW it should be done but not that it should be done. The difference, in general terms, is that one gives man the fish and the other encourages him to fish.
clgustaveson
10-30-2008, 09:18 AM
I don't agree. Anyone "could" vote for whomever they want. Should they is a different question.
k
mfblume
10-30-2008, 09:25 AM
"No one who has been baptized in Jesus Name or has even an ounce of morality could vote for the Baby Killer, Terrorist Lover, Obama. (sic)"
Saw this somewhere else.
McCain is just as equal in regards to abortion as Obama is. He seems to be the most liberal Republican yet.
clgustaveson
10-30-2008, 09:34 AM
McCain is just as equal in regards to abortion as Obama is. He seems to be the most liberal Republican yet.
Did you watch the faith forum? Obviously not.... go watch it on YouTube, unless it's above your pay grade.
mfblume
10-30-2008, 10:17 AM
Did you watch the faith forum? Obviously not.... go watch it on YouTube, unless it's above your pay grade.
I just saw the forum and see your point, and concede. I admit I was going by hearsay on this. Thanks for the note. That being said, will McCain change the picture and make policies that actually decrease abortions, or not like Bush? I doubt it. These guys say lots of things, but when it comes down to it they do nothing different.
clgustaveson
10-30-2008, 10:39 AM
I just saw the forum and see your point, and concede. I admit I was going by hearsay on this. Thanks for the note. That being said, will McCain change the picture and make policies that actually decrease abortions, or not like Bush? I doubt it. These guys say lots of things, but when it comes down to it they do nothing different.
It's true... it really boils down to the judges they appoint with matters like this. Honestly saying you don't preform litmus tests is stupid, you can find two equally qualified people on each side. I find it humorous that people think thats a big deal.
Yeah, McCain says he wont hire based on litmus test but based on qualifications but you know he will make sure he doesn't hire Pro Choice judges... all else being equal I am sure you can find two equally qualified judges on both sides.
I was just very impressed with McCains response, he didn't even waiver. Granted I am not the biggest McCain fan this definitely gave me a little confidence in his morals.
Michael The Disciple
10-30-2008, 11:22 AM
I oppose Obama on the basis of child killing and promoting sodomite agenda. In his speech THIS MORNING he lumped "gay and straight" along with black and white, rich and poor and so on. He says he wants to bring us all together.
That is impossible. The world may all unite as one but not the Children of Light. We will be cast out as the "evil ones".
I support Sarah Palin. I have more confidence in her than Mccain.
My real confidence is in YHWH.
But from all I know of him from his Spirit and his word I dont believe one would go unpunished voting for someone who GLORIES in the things YHWH hates like shedding of innocent blood.
Not that America will go unpunished for all other sins but with HIM judgment has always been by degree.
We are rewarded for our works whether they be good or evil.
clgustaveson
10-30-2008, 11:47 AM
I oppose Obama on the basis of child killing and promoting sodomite agenda. In his speech THIS MORNING he lumped "gay and straight" along with black and white, rich and poor and so on. He says he wants to bring us all together.
That is impossible. The world may all unite as one but not the Children of Light. We will be cast out as the "evil ones".
I support Sarah Palin. I have more confidence in her than Mccain.
My real confidence is in YHWH.
But from all I know of him from his Spirit and his word I dont believe one would go unpunished voting for someone who GLORIES in the things YHWH hates like shedding of innocent blood.
Not that America will go unpunished for all other sins but with HIM judgment has always been by degree.
We are rewarded for our works whether they be good or evil.
k
Light
10-30-2008, 12:34 PM
He may have eaten with the sinners but I don't think He condoned the sins. I don't think he condoned abortion or performed same sex marriages either.
I don't condone abortion or queer marriage but
can you give me scripture where the man Jesus mentions abortion?
Ever republican politician since Roe v Wade has run on abortion yet have done nothing to reverse R v W. If McCain/Palin win they will do nothing to reverse it either. If they did they wouldn't have any thing to push your buttons to get out to vote. Queers and abortion are the ticket for election and re-election for republicans.
Light
10-30-2008, 12:35 PM
I'm not voting for Obama,and I certainly do feel Christians should vote for those who have biblical values.
What biblical values does McCain have?
Pastor Keith
10-30-2008, 12:37 PM
What has liberal have to do with being a christian??
If Jesus was living now and running for office you would not vote for him because he would be called a trouble maker he eats with sinners. He wants to help the poor.
Yes, scripture does bear the fact that the poor are generally most responsive to the Gospel, but the same Jesus that fed them, also rebuked them for only wanting natural bread instead of eternal life.
This same Jesus acknowledged that the poor will always be with us.
Even the most gifted and wise man alive to walk the earth, did not take on the task of righting all of man's social ills.
Instead he brought about a revolution of man being in a right relationship with God then that would trickle down to his relationship with his fellow man.
clgustaveson
10-30-2008, 12:58 PM
What biblical values does McCain have?
Does being honesty count?
I can't stand the dude but there is one thing I have to give him, he is very straightforward... Palin is not be as honest and straightforward as him and that just speaks verses.
p.s. I'm still not sold on McCain.
DividedThigh
10-30-2008, 01:07 PM
i cant say that it is set in stone , but i do not believe you can have a heart and vote for the abortion supporters, just cant get my arms around that, dt
clgustaveson
10-30-2008, 01:17 PM
i cant say that it is set in stone , but i do not believe you can have a heart and vote for the abortion supporters, just cant get my arms around that, dt
Wouldn't they be dead if they didn't have a heart?
ReformedDave
10-30-2008, 02:06 PM
I don't condone abortion or queer marriage but
can you give me scripture where the man Jesus mentions abortion?
He supported the law.......
clgustaveson
10-30-2008, 02:10 PM
He supported the law.......
k
Tim Rutledge
10-30-2008, 02:57 PM
A vote for hussein obama will cause.. for sure... more babies to be aborted, because of the liberal judges he puts in. At least with McCain there is a chance conservative judges will be put in and slow down or stop abortion. Nothing is more important then the abortion issue. IMO.
Scott Hutchinson
10-30-2008, 07:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THS2zZ4m260
Light
10-31-2008, 07:07 AM
Does being honesty count?
I can't stand the dude but there is one thing I have to give him, he is very straightforward... Palin is not be as honest and straightforward as him and that just speaks verses.
p.s. I'm still not sold on McCain.
Well if you are saying honesty that leaves McCain out!!!
His own campaign staff are saying he did not vet Palin yet he said he did. He said I will not go negative yet he did. I could go on all day long on his un- honesty. Oh by the way he said he only crashed 1 time, that's a lie. He crashed 4 planes. Straight talk my foot.
Truthseeker
10-31-2008, 09:03 AM
Has it occured to anyone that the rich are the ones that own the businesses that allow the lower classes to have jobs?
If you make $75K a year are you willing to give 40% of your pay to someone making $25K?
Yeah, that's how it's suppose to work. i doubt someone making personal income of 1 million a year is creating jobs, maybe a lawn man or something.
No way should the man making 50,000 pay a higher % tax then the millionare.
Charles Barkley was speaing about the same thing one time saying he paid 300,000 something less in taxes but didn't need it, that the working class needs it more. I doubt one job was created by him paying that much less in taxes.
Now giving tax breaks to companies that will actually create jobs is another story.
Michael The Disciple
10-31-2008, 11:11 AM
I am not worried about paying higher taxes. What does concern me is that Christians could vote for someone who supports the shedding of innocent blood. Someone who supports the Sodomite movement. Two things God says he hates.
Scott Hutchinson
10-31-2008, 11:53 AM
Check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyFrGbAvfHc
Scott Hutchinson
10-31-2008, 12:07 PM
This is heart breaking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_W75zh1j2I
If you have kids hug them today.
clgustaveson
10-31-2008, 12:24 PM
Well if you are saying honesty that leaves McCain out!!!
His own campaign staff are saying he did not vet Palin yet he said he did. He said I will not go negative yet he did. I could go on all day long on his un- honesty. Oh by the way he said he only crashed 1 time, that's a lie. He crashed 4 planes. Straight talk my foot.
K I prefer not to beat a dead horse.... so I will just day this it's dishonesty not un-honesty.
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