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Praxeas
11-01-2008, 07:26 PM
I saw a youtube video of some radio show host or something stating all cultures are NOT equal. The list of comments as a result were basically callling her a racists. Race is not culture. Just because a culture might be or seem inferior to someone in some areas does not make that person a racist.

What do you think?

Mrs. LPW
11-01-2008, 07:38 PM
I saw a youtube video of some radio show host or something stating all cultures are NOT equal. The list of comments as a result were basically callling her a racists. Race is not culture. Just because a culture might be or seem inferior to someone in some areas does not make that person a racist.

What do you think?

I agree that Race is not Culture.
And I think my culture is best of course. :D

Seriously though, having not seen the video myself, I can't give a fair assessment but I would say if you start to pit one culture against another, or better than another, you're likely to raise some ire. It's a very touchy subject with some blurred lines.

Hoovie
11-01-2008, 07:50 PM
I would have to see the link.


My culture is slightly superior. :)

Praxeas
11-01-2008, 07:53 PM
IS the Islamic culture in Africa, where they take a woman guilty of adultery, bury her up to her head, then stone her to death in front of a crowd of onlookers equal to a culture that finds that unacceptable?

TalkLady
11-01-2008, 07:58 PM
I just did a google search of "The Dissolution of American culture" and this article from The Denver Post was the first link.

http://neighbors.denverpost.com/blog.php/2007/10/08/dissolution-of-our-culture-ultimate-breakdown-of-america/

Also, another link that came up:

http://rightisbest.blogspot.com/2008/10/were-losing-culture-war-but-we-can-digg.html

.........What is the culture of America? We are a country of immigrants, but don't we have "An American Culture"?...Not a culture defined from where our ancestors came from in Europe, Asia, or Africa - or anywhere else?

I just read this quote from Ronald Regan on that second link...IT's worth remembering:

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”- Ronald Reagan

Scott Hutchinson
11-01-2008, 08:07 PM
Culture is not race,saying all cultures are not equal does a racist make.

meBNme
11-01-2008, 08:20 PM
Here is the official, certified answer from the answers department of the "Know it all Foundation of America" or "KFA" for short.

Studies have shown that all cultures are NOT equal when compared in a literal setting.

One culture shines above and beyond the norm, and is indeed quite superior to all the others.

This superior culture is the "Redneck" culture.

It dominates in every aspect.
It transcends all political parties, races, countries, sports and regions.
It has been proven that individuals who are of the Redneck culture can fix anything with just two items, Duct tape and WD40.
"If it don't move, an it's posed too, use WD40. If it moves an it ain't posed too, use duct tape" is one oft used quotes of wisdom from the grass roots members of this culture.

This select group of people are known for their ability to survive in adverse conditions. Some of their virtues Include but are not limited to :
Surviving in the wild with very few provisions.
Defending those in their care with extreme measures when needed.
A determination to overcome despite the odds.
A deep love of country and freedom.
A great respect of military and Devotion to their God.
Diverse opinions on a wide range of subjects.
A high regard for the females of their species, the elderly, and children.

They have been known to "fight at the drop of a hat" if someone disrespects or harms one of their elderly, children, or women. Sometimes they drop the hat .

These elite individuals boast members from every race, financial background and family history.

They are sometimes confused by those who are unaware of their true standing, with a few of the far inferior cultures such as the "White trash" culture, the "unwashed and ignorant" culture, and a few others of which we cannot speak.
While there are a few limited similarities, the cultures are drastically different.

It is a little known fact that many individuals actually are a part of this elevated culture, yet they themselves are not aware of it.

There may be, in fact, some reading this certified document, that are unaware of their superior status as a member of the elite, the unequaled, the "Redneck" culture!

George
11-01-2008, 10:08 PM
IMO - cultures are not equal and by saying so does not make me a racist. For instance, take the culture of Papua New Guinea that is only about 50 years removed from cannibalism. There is no way anyone could fairly say their culture is equal to the culture of their not too far away neighbors in Australia. In fact, there are several different cultures within Australia and they are not equal. It has nothing to do with race but rather with primitive natives versus cultured, modern, city slickers who have the ability to pursue education.

Hoovie
11-01-2008, 10:57 PM
right. some are just MORE equal than others....

Ron
11-01-2008, 11:25 PM
All cultures have pluses & minuses.

That is my take!

One is not superior to the other.

JMHO

El Apostolico
11-02-2008, 01:09 AM
I saw a youtube video of some radio show host or something stating all cultures are NOT equal. The list of comments as a result were basically callling her a racists. Race is not culture. Just because a culture might be or seem inferior to someone in some areas does not make that person a racist.

What do you think?

All Humans are sinners and so all human cultures are formed in sin and slaves to the Kingdom of Darkness. Christ came to redeem man and to have victory over the Kingdom of Darkness, and so the only superior culture is that which Christ established through his church.

I remember when I was a sophomore I went to a private Christian school. I was in World History and my professor said that the Aztecs were wiped out because God had willed it after seeing all the human sacrifices. My blood boiled, and it is only by the aid of Holy Spirit that I did not tell him all the atrocities created by Western European Culture.

There is no one Superior culture. We are all sinners. Only Christ is superior.

Praxeas
11-02-2008, 01:29 AM
All Humans are sinners and so all human cultures are formed in sin and slaves to the Kingdom of Darkness. Christ came to redeem man and to have victory over the Kingdom of Darkness, and so the only superior culture is that which Christ established through his church.

I remember when I was a sophomore I went to a private Christian school. I was in World History and my professor said that the Aztecs were wiped out because God had willed it after seeing all the human sacrifices. My blood boiled, and it is only by the aid of Holy Spirit that I did not tell him all the atrocities created by Western European Culture.

There is no one Superior culture. We are all sinners. Only Christ is superior.
So...is the answer YES all cultures are equal? BTW a culture is not a race.

Human cultures are not formed in sin...HUMANS are formed in sin.

Western European cultures were responsible for a lot of bad things, because it was acceptable.

It's no longer acceptable, the bad things are done by bad people in Europe or America, not by the culture. Cultures evolve, but that does not prevent evil men with evil intent from doing their will

El Apostolico
11-02-2008, 09:31 AM
So...is the answer YES all cultures are equal? BTW a culture is not a race.

Human cultures are not formed in sin...HUMANS are formed in sin.

Western European cultures were responsible for a lot of bad things, because it was acceptable.

It's no longer acceptable, the bad things are done by bad people in Europe or America, not by the culture. Cultures evolve, but that does not prevent evil men with evil intent from doing their will

I'd say they are all equal, and are in need of Jesus. I know that culture =/= race.

So Western European culture is perfect? Maybe its because I'm from a different culture, but I see plenty of stuff wrong W.E. culture.

Human cultures are formed in sin for they are productions of sinful humans. The Bible says that there is nothing good we do Praxeas...that must include everything.

Praxeas
11-02-2008, 01:54 PM
I'd say they are all equal, and are in need of Jesus. I know that culture =/= race.

The question isn't though that everyone needs Jesus. Cultures don't need Jesus. People need Jesus.

So Western European culture is perfect?
Who said that? Nobody said any culture is perfect.

Maybe its because I'm from a different culture, but I see plenty of stuff wrong W.E. culture.
Nobody said there was nothing wrong with W.E. culture.

Human cultures are formed in sin for they are productions of sinful humans.
No, HUMANS are formed in sin...didn't we just do this? HUMANS are formed in sin. Cultures are the norms, beliefs, practices etc etc that we Humans form. It's the HUMAN that are formed in sin

The Bible says that there is nothing good we do Praxeas...that must include everything.
believing in God is not good? But again, this statement has nothing to do with the idea that one culture is better than another or that all cultures are the same (equal)

Praxeas
11-02-2008, 05:11 PM
A 13-year-old girl who said she had been raped was stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery by Islamic militants, a human rights group said.
Dozens of men stoned Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow to death Oct. 27 in a stadium packed with 1,000 spectators in the southern port city of Kismayo, Amnesty International and Somali media reported, citing witnesses. The Islamic militia in charge of Kismayo had accused her of adultery after she reported that three men had raped her, the rights group said.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445962,00.html

meBNme
11-02-2008, 09:21 PM
Who said that? Nobody said any culture is perfect.




Correct, even the undisputed champion culture I spoke of earlier is not perfect. Close, but not perfect.:tease

meBNme
11-02-2008, 09:26 PM
A 13-year-old girl who said she had been raped was stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery by Islamic militants, a human rights group said.
Dozens of men stoned Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow to death Oct. 27 in a stadium packed with 1,000 spectators in the southern port city of Kismayo, Amnesty International and Somali media reported, citing witnesses. The Islamic militia in charge of Kismayo had accused her of adultery after she reported that three men had raped her, the rights group said.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445962,00.html

Prax, Is this a result of culture...... or religion?

Praxeas
11-03-2008, 12:14 AM
Prax, Is this a result of culture...... or religion?
Often culture and religion's are blurred or combined. Our culture for many years was strongly influenced by Christianity

El Apostolico
11-03-2008, 12:39 AM
The question isn't though that everyone needs Jesus. Cultures don't need Jesus. People need Jesus.


Who said that? Nobody said any culture is perfect.


Nobody said there was nothing wrong with W.E. culture.


No, HUMANS are formed in sin...didn't we just do this? HUMANS are formed in sin. Cultures are the norms, beliefs, practices etc etc that we Humans form. It's the HUMAN that are formed in sin


believing in God is not good? But again, this statement has nothing to do with the idea that one culture is better than another or that all cultures are the same (equal)

Praxeas...cultures are the creations of men. As such if men need Jesus, so do their respective cultures or perhaps they need to be re-oriented.

Perhaps I misinterpreted your diction two posts ago to mean that W.E. culture had evolved to a state of near blamelessness, forgive me for supposing incorrectly.

I would agree that Humans are the ones who need redemption. But so do cultures in the sense that certain cultural norms must be destroyed, and others are or can be Christo-centric. Again, man is linked to his respective culture, and that culture in the light of the Spirit and the Scriptures must be changed. Perhaps change or shift would be a better word?

"For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross." Colossians 1:19-20

Maybe its a hermeneutical stretch, but I read it from this angle, that all things need to be reconciled...all including culture. No culture is better, for cultures are composed of sinful men and each and every culture has something that does not line up with the Scriptures and the Spirit. Everything needs to be changed.

I see you have made my same mistake in going to an extreme. Belief in God originates with God and not with us (Prevenient Grace) so we cannot really attribute belief in God as a work of man.

All cultures are equal in the sense that they are imperfect (perhaps you would be much more comfortable with that term).

commonsense
11-03-2008, 08:46 AM
First I don't equate race with culture.

Are they equal? I don't know. They're all different. Although less so today at one time the culture of a community was based on the ethnicity of the neighborhood.
To me culture is more how we live, what we do for enjoyment (museums: art, history; symphony concerts, the zoo; our food; our dress----but again much less so today than in the 1800's.)
So who is to judge culture??

Jermyn Davidson
11-03-2008, 12:17 PM
Culture is not race,saying all cultures are not equal does a racist make.

ALL CULTURES ARE NOT EQUAL!


The the antebellum culture of the southern portion of the United States was not an example of true Christianity and love.

The culture that praises abortion is not equal to one that prohibits abortion.

The culture of the Canaanites included burning their babies alive.

The culture of many third world countries include the worship of animals and perverse sexual rites.

It's akin to the sin of, "I-don't-know-the-word-but-it-includes-the-thought-that-my-way-to-Heaven-is-good-and-your-way-to-Heaven-is-good-and-we-will-all-arrive-to-the-same-destination-- Heaven.

The devil is a liar!!!

Some cultures glorify God, some cultures don't acknowledge God, and some cultures hate God!!!

Then how are we using the word culture?

The drug culture in today's America has had a devastating affect on all races of Americans, but especially the impoverished Blacks. Is this a good culture?

The Mob culture of Chicago, and Boston-- oh yeah, real good cultures to be a part of!

Lactobacillus bulgaricus and necrotizing fasciitis-- choose the culture you'd rather have with your morning granola!

MarcBee
11-03-2008, 01:17 PM
Equal means "the same," so how could any two cultures be equal? Perhaps what is meant is, "Are different cultures equally valuable?" But this is about like asking "Whose mother is the BEST?" Sure, we could devise an objective description of the perfect mom, but in the end, your mother is "the best" for you, and my mother is the best for me, (excepting the obvious exceptions.)

One criterion of relative value may be to apply the principle, "To whom much is given, much is required." And by that value, American culture may be among the worst, (not historically, but presently.)
SOS

Tyk
11-03-2008, 01:22 PM
All cultures have pluses & minuses.

That is my take!

One is not superior to the other.

JMHO

I agree with half of this =P
+ and -
but

Some definitely have huge draw backs, because it hampers there ability to see the salvation of Christ. Just as some, actually makes it easier.

Tyk
11-03-2008, 01:23 PM
ALL CULTURES ARE NOT EQUAL!


The the antebellum culture of the southern portion of the United States was not an example of true Christianity and love.

The culture that praises abortion is not equal to one that prohibits abortion.

The culture of the Canaanites included burning their babies alive.

The culture of many third world countries include the worship of animals and perverse sexual rites.

It's akin to the sin of, "I-don't-know-the-word-but-it-includes-the-thought-that-my-way-to-Heaven-is-good-and-your-way-to-Heaven-is-good-and-we-will-all-arrive-to-the-same-destination-- Heaven.

The devil is a liar!!!

Some cultures glorify God, some cultures don't acknowledge God, and some cultures hate God!!!

Then how are we using the word culture?

The drug culture in today's America has had a devastating affect on all races of Americans, but especially the impoverished Blacks. Is this a good culture?

The Mob culture of Chicago, and Boston-- oh yeah, real good cultures to be a part of!

Lactobacillus bulgaricus and necrotizing fasciitis-- choose the culture you'd rather have with your morning granola!

Aren't you voting Obo?

Ron
11-03-2008, 01:26 PM
I agree with half of this =P
+ and -
but

Some definitely have huge draw backs, because it hampers there ability to see the salvation of Christ. Just as some, actually makes it easier.

And a lot who have had a greater opportunity to know Christ have squandered it!

Jermyn Davidson
11-03-2008, 01:30 PM
Aren't you voting Obo?

Abortion is not the "hot button" issue it used to be for me because it is clear to me that America will NEVER outlaw abortion completely.

I'm not sure we should.

If I was voting, I would vote for Sen. Obama.

When listening to his words concerning abortion, it is clear to me that he does not "praise" abortion.

Tyk
11-03-2008, 01:40 PM
And a lot who have had a greater opportunity to know Christ have squandered it!

No doubt.

Doesn't change the ease of the opportunity to spread the gospel.