George W Bush is a Socialist

[Charnock]

Patriot Act
Prescription Drug Program
Nationalized Banking

[Praxeas]

Patriot Act
Prescription Drug Program
Nationalized Banking
He was directing the nation in that direction....ironic eh? They voted for Obama because they did not want 4 more years of Bush via McCain.

[A_PoMo]

He was directing the nation in that direction....ironic eh? They voted for Obama because they did not want 4 more years of Bush via McCain.

True dat.

[Joe 7]

You can't forget the, No Child Left Behind Act.

[clgustaveson]

dumb thread

[Praxeas]

dumb thread
You're just jealous because all your threads have bombed

[clgustaveson]

You're just jealous because all your threads have bombed

My portfolio did too...

[Praxeas]

My portfolio did too...
And that has to do with this thread how?

[Charnock]

Patriot Act
Prescription Drug Program
Nationalized Banking

You can't forget the, No Child Left Behind Act.


Good point.

Now, where are all those people who are so worried about Obama and socialism?

GW Bush has trampled privacy rights, tortured prisoners and nationalized our banking system. I suspect he will do the same thing with the auto industry before he leaves office.

[Charnock]

It's awwwwwwwwfully quiet on this thread...............

[TRFrance]

It's awwwwwwwwfully quiet on this thread...............

Maybe because the topic is boring.

[Charnock]

Maybe because the topic is boring.

Maybe, but so are you.

[freeatlast]

dumb thread




Mmmm huh. Agreed

[Charnock]

Bush is a socialist.

Obama is a socialist.

Socialism seems popular in Amerika.

[TRFrance]

Maybe because the topic is boring.

Maybe, but so are you.

Wow.
Very childish, Charnock. Very childish.

[Cindy]

Maybe, but so are you.

:scorebad

[HappyTown]

He was directing the nation in that direction....ironic eh? They voted for Obama because they did not want 4 more years of Bush via McCain.

McCain may have gotten in if he didn't put all his apples in one basket (Christan Right) !!! This Nation was built on many different walks of life, not just the Christians, this is why he lost big time! He also made the mistake of picking SP as his running mate, she to was for one small portion of the population who makes up this place. Many who were Republican crossed over due to the fact McCain and SP didn't represented the rest of the majority view points!

We as Christians may not like it, but the Founding Fathers of the United States set up the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution for all walks of life!
Freedom to all, straight and the no so straight! This is a truth!

Obama reach out to all walks, even if he may have not agree with it ! The office of President of the United States, ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." For all walks of life!

This is People's Contract With America.

[HappyTown]

Good point.

Now, where are all those people who are so worried about Obama and socialism?

GW Bush has trampled privacy rights, tortured prisoners and nationalized our banking system. I suspect he will do the same thing with the auto industry before he leaves office.

GWB not done yet!!! Bush Administration to rape and pillage the planet!
“The Bush administraton is forcing through 90-plus institutional changes easing pollution limits and counter terrorism rules … “all of will be actual “law” without debate and without Congress by the time the next president takes over. And this is apparently how we make decisions about whether or not American kids drink dirty or clean water or breathe dirty or clean air and whether or not shipping containers in our ports are checked for bombs or not. Taaa Daaa”

Have a nice -die-off.

[clgustaveson]

And that has to do with this thread how?

If Bush was a socialist then I would not have lost 17K in a night.... There is no risk in socialism, he would have had 8 years to at least fix that ........... he didn't I lost.

[Praxeas]

If Bush was a socialist then I would not have lost 17K in a night.... There is no risk in socialism, he would have had 8 years to at least fix that ........... he didn't I lost.
Can you explain how Bush was responsible for that? Up until recently the market has been a Bull Market...during his presidency. The recent "fiasco" have the dems to be blamed for it to a large degree.

[Baron1710]

McCain may have gotten in if he didn't put all his apples in one basket (Christan Right) !!! This Nation was built on many different walks of life, not just the Christians, this is why he lost big time! He also made the mistake of picking SP as his running mate, she to was for one small portion of the population who makes up this place. Many who were Republican crossed over due to the fact McCain and SP didn't represented the rest of the majority view points!

We as Christians may not like it, but the Founding Fathers of the United States set up the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution for all walks of life!
Freedom to all, straight and the no so straight! This is a truth!

Obama reach out to all walks, even if he may have not agree with it ! The office of President of the United States, ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." For all walks of life!

This is People's Contract With America.

This show a complete lack of understanding of the political enviroment in America. One of the most liberal states voted yet a second time to ban gay marrige, the problem wasn't that MCcain was depending on the "religious-right" the problem is McCain wasn't a conservative. He did not exite the conservative base, many folks particularly in states that are historically democrat in their presidentail elections, either didn't vote or voted for a third party. Republicans think that conservatives are stupid and simple vote for them because they have an R beside their name. The reality is when the Republicans put up a conservative candidate its an overwhelming victory. e.g. Reagan in 1984 winning 49 out of 50 states.

The turnout for this election was the same as 4 years ago "A downturn in the number and percentage of Republican voters going to the polls seemed to be the primary explanation for the lower than predicted turnout,”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/06/report-08-turnout-same-or-only-slightly-higher-than-04/

[smurfette]

This show a complete lack of understanding of the political enviroment in America. One of the most liberal states voted yet a second time to ban gay marrige, the problem wasn't that MCcain was depending on the "religious-right" the problem is McCain wasn't a conservative. He did not exite the conservative base, many folks particularly in states that are historically democrat in their presidentail elections, either didn't vote or voted for a third party. Republicans think that conservatives are stupid and simple vote for them because they have an R beside their name. The reality is when the Republicans put up a conservative candidate its an overwhelming victory. e.g. Reagan in 1984 winning 49 out of 50 states.

The turnout for this election was the same as 4 years ago "A downturn in the number and percentage of Republican voters going to the polls seemed to be the primary explanation for the lower than predicted turnout,”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/06/report-08-turnout-same-or-only-slightly-higher-than-04/

Bingo. Very well said. So far, the best post in this thread.:friend

[AmericanAngel]

They just wanted a Demo, no matter what......:depressed:wacko:foottap

[OP_Carl]

Patriot Act
Prescription Drug Program
Nationalized Banking

I think that if you delve into this just a tad deeper you will discern that George W. Bush is not a socialist - he's an oligarchist. Either way spells less happiness and freedom for the common man. (not speaking of the leeches) We're on a big-government kick right now. However, the inherent corruption in our system of patronage leads to dramatic crises such as that caused by the CRA, housing bubble, and existence of Fannie & Freddie.

[clgustaveson]

Can you explain how Bush was responsible for that? Up until recently the market has been a Bull Market...during his presidency. The recent "fiasco" have the dems to be blamed for it to a large degree.

You can play the blame game all you want, but it has nothing to do with what I said because I didn't say Bush had anything to do with it.

What I said was, clearly after 8 years if Bush were a socialist there would be no risk in my investments... yet there is.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Can you explain how Bush was responsible for that? Up until recently the market has been a Bull Market...during his presidency. The recent "fiasco" have the dems to be blamed for it to a large degree.


Really?

Are you really going to tell me that for 6 of the last 8 years, NONE of Bush's "advisors" saw this coming? Are you telling me that it is perfectly excusable for these folks to have been sleep at the wheel during all of this?

The buck stops with the President.

His decisions, actions, and inactions have contributed LARGELY to this mess.

His = GWB, his administration and all who have had any kind of influence of the financial markets and situations of the last 8 years. Realistically, they are all connected to GWB, directly and indirectly.


So when the market picks up again, are you going to say, "WOW GWB was so wise, those Republicans back in 08 made the right decisions to get our country out of the mess?

[DividedThigh]

well gwb is not a socialist, he is not to smart about all this though, but the mortgage melt down goes all the way back to the clinton years, and the dems blocking doing something about it, just the truth guys, dt

[OP_Carl]

Really?

Are you really going to tell me that for 6 of the last 8 years, NONE of Bush's "advisors" saw this coming? Are you telling me that it is perfectly excusable for these folks to have been sleep at the wheel during all of this?

The buck stops with the President.

His decisions, actions, and inactions have contributed LARGELY to this mess.

His = GWB, his administration and all who have had any kind of influence of the financial markets and situations of the last 8 years. Realistically, they are all connected to GWB, directly and indirectly.


So when the market picks up again, are you going to say, "WOW GWB was so wise, those Republicans back in 08 made the right decisions to get our country out of the mess?

You are correct that the Treasury Secretary and the Fed chairman did not act appropriately before, during, or after the financial meltdown. In that sense, the Bush administration rightly deserves blame.

The structures and systems that were put in place (by Carter and Clinton) or kept in place (by Barney Frank & Senate Democrats) that CAUSED all this should have been torn down or severely modified. We can also blame the Bush administration for not having the temerity to tackle this project - an initiative that would have been EXTREMELY unpopular if it had been attempted beforehand.

But generally speaking, it takes years for the effects of any given economic policy to become fully known.

[DividedThigh]

You are correct that the Treasury Secretary and the Fed chairman did not act appropriately before, during, or after the financial meltdown. In that sense, the Bush administration rightly deserves blame.

The structures and systems that were put in place (by Carter and Clinton) or kept in place (by Barney Frank & Senate Democrats) that CAUSED all this should have been torn down or severely modified. We can also blame the Bush administration for not having the temerity to tackle this project - an initiative that would have been EXTREMELY unpopular if it had been attempted beforehand.

But generally speaking, it takes years for the effects of any given economic policy to become fully known.
true, oc, dt

[Ferd]

I am for extracting information from terrorists by any means necessary. If you want to call that torture be my guest I dont care.

I dont think the Patriot act went too far.

George W. Bush spent like a drunken sailor.... Or it would be better to say he stood on the sidelines and let congress spend like drunken sailors and he said nothing. for 6 of his almost 8 years the spenders were republicans. (boo! hiss!)

This financial market bailout isnt socialism its stupid and its communsim. and I am mad about it.

[jimmyrrs]

I am for extracting information from terrorists by any means necessary. If you want to call that torture be my guest I dont care.

I dont think the Patriot act went too far.

George W. Bush spent like a drunken sailor.... Or it would be better to say he stood on the sidelines and let congress spend like drunken sailors and he said nothing. for 6 of his almost 8 years the spenders were republicans. (boo! hiss!)

This financial market bailout isnt socialism its stupid and its communsim. and I am mad about it.

I will say war is war and you do what you must to win. Play fair or play dirty. Win. Protect the United States of America which is made up of people from all walks of life.

All politicans spend to much money, yet it is us the voters that put them in office. Rep's spend to much, Dem's spend to much yet when things go good we are ok with it.

I hate to see the financial market in trouble and I too am upset about the bailout. Why should the goverment help out when companies make mistakes.

If a person over spends should the gov help them out, when they KNEW BETTER.

I'm thankful my wife and I have jobs and are able to pay our bills, but GOD gave me common sense not to over do it.

I still pray the blessing of the Lord on our country.

[clgustaveson]

Really?

Are you really going to tell me that for 6 of the last 8 years, NONE of Bush's "advisors" saw this coming? Are you telling me that it is perfectly excusable for these folks to have been sleep at the wheel during all of this?

The buck stops with the President.

His decisions, actions, and inactions have contributed LARGELY to this mess.

His = GWB, his administration and all who have had any kind of influence of the financial markets and situations of the last 8 years. Realistically, they are all connected to GWB, directly and indirectly.


So when the market picks up again, are you going to say, "WOW GWB was so wise, those Republicans back in 08 made the right decisions to get our country out of the mess?

Fortunately, I don't agree with that. The Market is NOT the product of the presidents actions. When it is I am moving to an isolated island in the south pacific.

[Jermyn Davidson]

You are correct that the Treasury Secretary and the Fed chairman did not act appropriately before, during, or after the financial meltdown. In that sense, the Bush administration rightly deserves blame.

The structures and systems that were put in place (by Carter and Clinton) or kept in place (by Barney Frank & Senate Democrats) that CAUSED all this should have been torn down or severely modified. We can also blame the Bush administration for not having the temerity to tackle this project - an initiative that would have been EXTREMELY unpopular if it had been attempted beforehand.

But generally speaking, it takes years for the effects of any given economic policy to become fully known.



You know what, you are really reaching to try to convince me that Carter had something to do with this, but you skip Reagan and Bush Sr.

Honestly, if you have a problem with Democrat policies then say that.

But to blame 2008's financial crisis on a President who served one term almost 30 years ago is laughable.

If his policies were that bad, then Reagan and Bush Sr are just as guilty for letting it stand.

Surely, if Carter's and Clinton's policies were that bad, the Republican President and the Republican dominated House and Senate should have done something about it to fix it.

Remember Newt's contract with America and the Republican dominated Congress of the 1990's, yeah, they share piece in this soup sandwich too, if you really want to blame Carter and Clinton.


I don't make these arguments.

Maybe the foundation for all of this mess was laid in the 1990's. Maybe.

But we are 8 years into this century, with 6 of the last 8 years dominated by Republicans.

They are largely responsible-- their actions and inactions.

That is why WE LOST this time.