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Has anyone heard about Dr. S. at CLC ... ?
freeatlast
04-02-2007, 08:11 PM
Heard what Daniel ? That he's a Dr. ?
CupCake
04-02-2007, 08:13 PM
Has anyone heard about Dr. S. at CLC ... ?
Yes and he a real nut job!
freeatlast
04-02-2007, 08:14 PM
Yes and he a real nut job!
Really? Do tell.
CupCake
04-02-2007, 08:15 PM
Really? Do tell.
Standing on the 5th here...;)
freeatlast
04-02-2007, 08:18 PM
If it's who i think it is, he preached fo rus last year. I liked what he preached.
Is he still the President?
RevDWW
04-02-2007, 08:44 PM
What'cha diggin' for here Dan?
freeatlast
04-02-2007, 08:48 PM
Not like Dan to post and run? Where'd he go?
What'cha diggin' for here Dan?
Digging? Simply being inquisitive.
freeatlast
04-02-2007, 08:57 PM
You asking about the dad or the son, who is also Dr S.
Scott Hutchinson
04-02-2007, 09:09 PM
Who is DR.S I certainly don't know?
SoCaliUPC
04-02-2007, 09:13 PM
I do know there has been some talk about what his status would be. It would be more pointed to get to what it is you are really asking.
freeatlast
04-02-2007, 09:13 PM
maybe some of california posters can help us know this mystery
I do know there has been some talk about what his status would be. It would be more pointed to get to what it is you are really asking.
Has he resigned ??... some of my sources say he has .... or is about to.
SoCaliUPC
04-02-2007, 09:14 PM
Has he resigned ??... some of my sources say he has .... or is about to.
Well, I do not live there...have just heard.
Sweet Pea is our resident CLC'er.
Thad may have heard since he is in the vicinity.
freeatlast
04-02-2007, 09:17 PM
keith4Him is a good friend of Mark S. Maybe he knows
Scott Hutchinson
04-02-2007, 09:17 PM
Lord I thought CLC was Christian Life Church in Austin, what do I know ?
SoCaliUPC
04-02-2007, 09:18 PM
Lord I thought CLC was Christian Life Church in Austin, what do I know ?
It is one of many.....
Trouvere
04-02-2007, 09:35 PM
Brother S is probably moving towards retirement age.
i was asked not to comment on this topic so i wont
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:16 PM
It is one of many.....
Ahem...it's Christian Life CENTER and we were the first!:grampa
Lord I thought CLC was Christian Life Church in Austin, what do I know ?
CLC in Austin is an up and coming growing UPC church. However THE CLC is Christian Life Center Stockton, CA.
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:20 PM
For the record, he's president of Christian Life COLLEGE which is different than CLC the church. We used to be confused with the college choir back when we were CLC Youth Choir...confusing I know.
Monkeyperson,
Good point that CLC is the initials of both the church and the Bible College. Of course in the context of the Sea person it is the Bible College.
I wonder what is behind this rumor. If he is leaving why, where to, etc, etc.
Praxeas
04-02-2007, 10:27 PM
Brother S is probably moving towards retirement age.
Since when do teachers and college professors retire? I thought once they got tenure they held on tooth and nail until the grave
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:29 PM
Monkeyperson,
Good point that CLC is the initials of both the church and the Bible College. Of course in the context of the Sea person it is the Bible College.
I wonder what is behind this rumor. If he is leaving why, where to, etc, etc.I'd say ask Keith4him...he's great friends and a travel buudy of the doctor's son.
Funny story, the doctor has a funny way of making a point, he wriggles his fingers and gives a googly eye...one day waaay back he did this and then proceeded to casually lean back with his hand resting on the wall for emphasis (it was a great point) he misjudged the distance and placed his hand through an open 2nd story window and almost fell out of the building!!!:slaphappy :slaphappy Can you say, "Class dismissed due to laughter"????!!!!
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:30 PM
Since when do teachers and college professors retire? I thought once they got tenure they held on tooth and nail until the gravewith all the mystery and drama with DA's question, me thinks there is more to the story.
with all the mystery and drama with DA's question, me thinks there is more to the story.
Perhaps he has seen the error of his ways and is renouncing the uncut hair doctrine!!!!!:happydance
Perhaps he has seen the error of his ways and is renouncing the uncut hair doctrine!!!!!:happydance
Perhaps he gone fully PCI ... lol.
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:34 PM
Perhaps he has seen the error of his ways and is renouncing the uncut hair doctrine!!!!!:happydancehmmm?:ignore :ignore
Without a doubt he's the org's best and most sound theologian ... hands down.
Without a doubt he's the org's best and most sound theologian ... hands down.
Better than David Barnard??????????
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:38 PM
hmmm, better maybe but bernard has more clout inside and out.
Praxeas
04-02-2007, 10:40 PM
hmmm, better maybe but bernard has more clout inside and out.
Other than the magic hair thingy I think that is actually a bad thing for the UPC.
Better than David Barnard??????????
As much as Bernard is touted ... there's holes in some of his work ...
He's a good guy ... don't get me wrong ... but he's too company oriented ... Seagraves approach is way more scholarly and less reliant on being PC.
SoCaliUPC
04-02-2007, 10:41 PM
i was asked not to comment on this topic so i wont
Censorship??
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:42 PM
As much as Bernard is touted ... there's holes in some of his work ...
He's a good guy ... don't get me wrong ... but he's too company oriented ... Seagraves approach is way more scholarly and less reliant on being PC.
I'm talking about cred. Bernard is read and known throughout religious studies while the doc is not.
I'm talking about cred. Bernard is read and known throughout religious studies while the doc is not.
Bernard's got a better PR manager????
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:44 PM
Bernard's got a better PR manager????he he, good stuff.:tiphat
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:46 PM
like it or not, bernard is our representative in the academic/theology circles.
like it or not, bernard is our representative in the academic/theology circles.
that's too bad ...
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:52 PM
that's too bad ...well, then get your phd, write some books and get noticed, it's not gonna happen here on AFF capice?:tiphat
Hoovie
04-02-2007, 10:53 PM
like it or not, bernard is our representative in the academic/theology circles.
Bernard is more published, and has made resources widely available for everything from new converts to scholarly works for the Society For Pentecostal Studies.
I like some of Seagraves distictives as well as Jason Dulle.
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 10:55 PM
Bernard is more published, and has made resources available for everything from new converts to scholarly works for the Society For Pentecostal Studies.
I like some of Seagraves distictives as well as Jason Dulle.My brother is a member of SFPS...he's apostolic too!:tiphat :tiphat We're sneaking in!
Hoovie
04-02-2007, 10:56 PM
My brother is a member of SFPS...he's apostolic too!:tiphat :tiphat We're sneaking in!
Great, but the "sneaking in" part I doubt.
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 11:00 PM
Great, but the "sneaking in" part I doubt.I went to University of Toronto to see him at one of these events...man did I ever feel like the dumbest person in the room (again):slaphappy
LaGirl
04-02-2007, 11:02 PM
i was asked not to comment on this topic so i wont
:jaw
well, then get your phd, write some books and get noticed, it's not gonna happen here on AFF capice?:tiphat
I'm seriously considering pursuing one ...
Monkeyman
04-02-2007, 11:09 PM
I'm seriously considering pursuing one ...it's not too late...my bro went back after many years out of university and got his. You can do it man!
it's not too late...my bro went back after many years out of university and got his. You can do it man!
I've got my Masters ... I've got six years till 40 ... I've purposed to have a doctorate by 40. Now all I need is the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Trouvere
04-02-2007, 11:37 PM
Since when do teachers and college professors retire? I thought once they got tenure they held on tooth and nail until the grave
hahaha...too funny.What teeth will be left? I want to travel when I am old and teach ESL classes.
Sweet Pea
04-03-2007, 04:49 AM
Yes, Dr. Daniel Segraves has resigned as president of Christian Life College. I heard him personally and this is what he had to say.... "For several years, God has dealt with me regarding devoting myself to writing for the Pentecostal Oneness movement. When I signed my last contract (seven and 1/2 years ago), I knew that it would be my last. The contract expired this past August; however, at that point I didn't feel released to go so I stayed for another school year. My wife and I will be settling in St. Louis, MO. MO is where both of us were born and raised and is our homestate.... We own property there and it just makes sense to settle in a centrally located city.... besides the fact that St. Louis has some of the largest and most extensive theological research libraries in the country." He went on to speak very highly of NH and his leadership of the church and the college. He said he would be back from time to time to visit the college and will remain on the college Board of Directors. He also said that he believes very strongly in CLC (both church and college) and the direction that NH is leading both. At this time a new president has not been named. NH will serve as "acting president" until a new one is named. (I've been here MANY years and this is how it was always handled when a president resigned. KH was "acting president" several times during my years here.) I understand his son Mark will be taking the Adult Bible Class on Sunday mornings, something that his dad has had for probably the entire 25 years he has been here.
Now......... D.A. I don't know why you were so evasive in your question.... trying to stir up something that is not there? And I can't imagine why Thad was asked not to comment on this unless it was prior to it being announced to the faculty and student body ... fact is fact.... :tiphat
Folks the man is retirement age.... and if you don't live in CA, you have no idea how unfriendly it can be to retirees. I can fully understand he reasons to move since he feels that God is leading him in this direction.
Any more questions??????? :winkgrin
Fonix
04-03-2007, 05:02 AM
Has anyone heard about Dr. S. at CLC ... ?
Danny Danny. I tought you left us upc'ers. Why would you even be interested?
Sweet Pea
04-03-2007, 05:19 AM
Danny Danny. I tought you left us upc'ers. Why would you even be interested?
I wondered the same thing....:aaa
I'm also surprised that it took so long for this bit of information to hit this forum and by an "ex-er" at that. :winkgrin
Coonskinner
04-03-2007, 06:28 AM
Without a doubt he's the org's best and most sound theologian ... hands down.
Actually, that would be Cliff Readout.
StillStanding
04-03-2007, 06:47 AM
Are you sure he resigned? It seems to me his contract ran out, and he decided not to renew it! (re:CA GS position) :D
Sweet Pea
04-03-2007, 07:03 AM
Are you sure he resigned? It seems to me his contract ran out, and he decided not to renew it! (re:CA GS position) :D
I guess that you could define it that way. His contract expired this past August. I don't know if he told them at that time that it would be on a year to year basis or not. I only know that he spoke with NH two to three weeks ago and told him at that time that he was going to retire. He is truly a GREAT man and his wife is a special lady. They will truly be missed at the church as well as the college. I'm privileged to count them as "friends".
philjones
04-03-2007, 07:12 AM
I guess that you could define it that way. His contract expired this past August. I don't know if he told them at that time that it would be on a year to year basis or not. I only know that he spoke with NH two to three weeks ago and told him at that time that he was going to retire. He is truly a GREAT man and his wife is a special lady. They will truly be missed at the church as well as the college. I'm privileged to count them as "friends".
Sweetpea,
if no one has told you lately, I sure appreciate you and your approach to things. your honesty and forthrightness in defense of those God has placed in your life to lead you is commendable!:tiphat :tiphat
Sweet Pea
04-03-2007, 08:58 AM
Sweetpea,
if no one has told you lately, I sure appreciate you and your approach to things. your honesty and forthrightness in defense of those God has placed in your life to lead you is commendable!:tiphat :tiphat
Thank you, Phil! No, I don't get that kind of compliment around here much. :winkgrin But that is okay. :tiphat I appreciate you taking the time to post your thoughts!
revrandy
04-03-2007, 09:25 AM
I personally talked with his son.. He will finish out the school year if this has been already said.. I'm sorry...
Sweet Pea
04-03-2007, 09:34 AM
I personally talked with his son.. He will finish out the school year if this has been already said.. I'm sorry...
Guess that I just assumed that people would realize that... (Should never "assume" anything.) :winkgrin After all there are only five more weeks of school. DS said that they were not leaving until sometime in the summer.
Sweet Pea
04-03-2007, 09:35 AM
RevRandy......... is that your dog in the avatar? Love him! Do you use him to hunt?
Yes, Dr. Daniel Segraves has resigned as president of Christian Life College. At this time a new president has not been named. NH will serve as "acting president" until a new one is named. :winkgrin
ROFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing like having a guy who not only didn't finish High School but spurned attending the Bible College his family owned to now be the temporary President of it. Only in Pentecost!!!!!!!!!!!!!:slaphappy
revrandy
04-03-2007, 09:54 AM
RevRandy......... is that your dog in the avatar? Love him! Do you use him to hunt?
I can't claim her SP... she belongs to the Coonskinner... I just created the avatar from a Pic he put on here awhiles back... (with his permission of course)
revrandy
04-03-2007, 09:54 AM
ROFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing like having a guy who not only didn't finish High School but spurned attending the Bible College his family owned to now be the temporary President of it. Only in Pentecost!!!!!!!!!!!!!:slaphappy
there does seem to be some sort of poetic irony here... :winkgrin
Praxeas
04-03-2007, 10:14 AM
Are you sure he resigned? It seems to me his contract ran out, and he decided not to renew it! (re:CA GS position) :D
Wrong topic Pman!
Praxeas
04-03-2007, 10:16 AM
Guess that I just assumed that people would realize that... (Should never "assume" anything.) :winkgrin After all there are only five more weeks of school. DS said that they were not leaving until sometime in the summer.
My teacher once taught me that by way of teaching me how to remember how to spell the word...of course I can't post what he said as I might have to ban myself, but I have color coded the word so it might be easier to figure out :slaphappy
ROFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing like having a guy who not only didn't finish High School but spurned attending the Bible College his family owned to now be the temporary President of it. Only in Pentecost!!!!!!!!!!!!!:slaphappy
Sad.
Sweet Pea
04-03-2007, 11:55 AM
ROFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing like having a guy who not only didn't finish High School but spurned attending the Bible College his family owned to now be the temporary President of it. Only in Pentecost!!!!!!!!!!!!!:slaphappy
Sad.
CC1......... You and I have had this discussion in the past. :beatdeadhorse :beatdeadhorse The man DID finish high school!!!! At least he had the gumption to realize that he made a mistake when he was a young man and took the necessary steps to correct it! He has probably taken more college classes than people will ever give him credit for and he is NO dummy!!! And I would put him up against ANYONE with his business sense. The man has made money people are not aware of - and has given it most of it back to the Kingdom! You don't KNOW him and have no right to be so critical of him! :ignore
And Daniel............ what do you know of the man that makes you think it so sad???? Nevermind............ I don't even want to know!
Pastor Keith
04-03-2007, 12:37 PM
Daniel Segraves will be missed, but he is needed to complete a comprehensive systematic theology from a Oneness perspective.
St. Louis is centrally located for his continued speaking ministry and is a whole lot cheaper to live in for retired couples.
I count it to be one life's highest gifts to me that I had him a teacher/mentor, my whole theology/view of God has been influened by him, I don't have one iota of ministry that does not have his mark on.
He is a tremedous gift to the church.
Hoovie
04-03-2007, 12:47 PM
Daniel Segraves will be missed, but he is needed to complete a comprehensive systematic theology from a Oneness perspective.
St. Louis is centrally located for his continued speaking ministry and is a whole lot cheaper to live in for retired couples.
I count it to be one life's highest gifts to me that I had him a teacher/mentor, my whole theology/view of God has been influened by him, I don't have one iota of ministry that does not have his mark on.
He is a tremedous gift to the church.
I wonder, does this mean he will be taking a larger role at UGST?
Sweet Pea
04-03-2007, 12:49 PM
Daniel Segraves will be missed, but he is needed to complete a comprehensive systematic theology from a Oneness perspective.
St. Louis is centrally located for his continued speaking ministry and is a whole lot cheaper to live in for retired couples.
I count it to be one life's highest gifts to me that I had him a teacher/mentor, my whole theology/view of God has been influened by him, I don't have one iota of ministry that does not have his mark on.
He is a tremedous gift to the church.
Keith4Him.... You are so right!
jollyrancher
04-03-2007, 12:50 PM
Daniel Segraves will be missed, but he is needed to complete a comprehensive systematic theology from a Oneness perspective.
St. Louis is centrally located for his continued speaking ministry and is a whole lot cheaper to live in for retired couples.
I count it to be one life's highest gifts to me that I had him a teacher/mentor, my whole theology/view of God has been influened by him, I don't have one iota of ministry that does not have his mark on.
He is a tremedous gift to the church.
There is NO ONE better than him and my comments about him have been.... He is the Closest thing to GOD in my mind :)
revrandy
04-03-2007, 12:51 PM
There is NO ONE better than him and my comments about him have been.... He is the Closest thing to GOD in my mind :)
I doubt he would like to hear that.....imo... :nah
Daniel Segraves will be missed, but he is needed to complete a comprehensive systematic theology from a Oneness perspective.
St. Louis is centrally located for his continued speaking ministry and is a whole lot cheaper to live in for retired couples.
I count it to be one life's highest gifts to me that I had him a teacher/mentor, my whole theology/view of God has been influened by him, I don't have one iota of ministry that does not have his mark on.
He is a tremedous gift to the church.
Boy O Boy ! what is the big secret ?????????????????????????
I asked 2 friends about this and they acted like it was some kind of KGB secret !!!!!!! that was about a week ago ....NO NAMES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
revrandy
04-03-2007, 12:54 PM
Boy O Boy ! what is the big secret ?????????????????????????
I asked 2 friends about this and they acted like it was some kind of KGB secret !!!!!!! that was about a week ago ....NO NAMES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I were a betting man.. I would wager he will be spending a little time at the Urshan School...
Hoovie
04-03-2007, 12:54 PM
I doubt he would like to hear that.....imo... :nah
I thought that too, but then, if true, then that would speak of his humility... which is Christ-like and...:igotit :tiphat
If I were a betting man.. I would wager he will be spending a little time at the Urshan School...
So is TH finally taking over the school complelety or ???/
He has wanted to change the direction of the school for years
revrandy
04-03-2007, 12:57 PM
So is TH finally taking over the school complelety or ???/
He has wanted to change the direction of the school for years
Bro.. He has been there for 25 Years... I am sure he is ready to go..
Pastor Keith
04-03-2007, 12:59 PM
Boy O Boy ! what is the big secret ?????????????????????????
I asked 2 friends about this and they acted like it was some kind of KGB secret !!!!!!! that was about a week ago ....NO NAMES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They didn't want it annouced until all the staff and student body could hear at the same time. Sorry for the secrecy, but they didnt want mis-communication and inneundos.
Keith
Bro.. He has been there for 25 Years... I am sure he is ready to go..
you know more then you're saying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy
what will mark do now that his father is moving ?
Pastor Keith
04-03-2007, 01:13 PM
I wonder, does this mean he will be taking a larger role at UGST?
As I understand things, he might not upfront because UGST is tight with the $, but he will play a greater roles as it opens up.
His calender is full with speaking engagements so there will be no shortage of opportunities, and he is finishing up his Doctorate with Regent. BIG TIME REQUIREMENTS!
you know more then you're saying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy
what will mark do now that his father is moving ?
Bump
So is TH finally taking over the school complelety or ???/
He has wanted to change the direction of the school for years
another bump
SoCaliUPC
04-03-2007, 02:21 PM
Danny Danny. I tought you left us upc'ers. Why would you even be interested?
People may have left the UPC, but still feel that it is their legacy and where they came from. Some people still have family and friends in the UPC and are quite interested in what happens. I may have left my previous employer...however...I still ask about certain things and people.
SoCaliUPC
04-03-2007, 02:26 PM
Thad...according to Sweet Pea, Than will be "Acting President." After that, I will say no mo.
South of I 90
04-03-2007, 02:33 PM
Thad...according to Sweet Pea, Than will be "Acting President." After that, I will say no mo.
"Acting President"; isn't that an oxymoron?
"Acting President"; isn't that an oxymoron?
Not unless you're Ronald Reagan
http://www.ronaldreagan.com/reaganpics/rr140.jpg
Daniel Segraves is a walking treasure...his words are pearls of great wisdom...I was privileged to be his student at CLC and consumed his teaching like a starving person. What a great man of God. Hope he and his fabulous wife come visiting our way.
God bless this dear servant of the Lord.
Who is DR.S I certainly don't know?
I don't either
but,
maybe that's one of those cases where,
if you don't know and you have to ask, then you don't need to know.
I don't know.
Hoovie
04-03-2007, 06:54 PM
I don't either
but,
maybe that's one of those cases where,
if you don't know and you have to ask, then you don't need to know.
I don't know.
Right. Don't ask - don't tell policy. Even Bush talked about it.
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