View Full Version : Why was Swordman banned????
Steve Epley
04-03-2007, 02:41 PM
I do not know the identity of Swordman but all the he-she(?) ever posted was scripture with NO comment why would they be banned?????????????
If quoting the Bible only on an Apostolic forum is banned maybe the forum should be renamed????? From ultra-lib t0 ultra-con why would just quoting the Bibel offend??????????
Might get banned myself for asking?
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 02:46 PM
I think we just figured out who 'he' was...
It's possible that he was using a proxy server, which is against forum rules. He wouldn't be the first that was banned for that reason-- but I don't know for sure if that was why.
It could have absolutely nothing to do with him posting scriptures.
Steve Epley
04-03-2007, 02:47 PM
I think we just figured out who 'he' was...
I wouldn't know a proxy server if my life depended on it. Thank you for the compliment I just barely am able to post as is no fancy stuff here.
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 02:52 PM
If 'he' was using a proxy... then he was purposely trying to hide.
BoredOutOfMyMind
04-03-2007, 02:54 PM
If 'he' was using a proxy... then he was purposely trying to hide.
He was questioned and did not respond either.
Steve Epley
04-03-2007, 02:55 PM
He was questioned and did not respond either.
What is a proxy????????????????????? I do not understand now it simple for us stupid folk.:tiphat
Actaeon
04-03-2007, 02:56 PM
I do not know the identity of Swordman but all the he-she(?) ever posted was scripture with NO comment why would they be banned?????????????
If quoting the Bible only on an Apostolic forum is banned maybe the forum should be renamed????? From ultra-lib t0 ultra-con why would just quoting the Bibel offend??????????
Might get banned myself for asking?
Pro 22:25 Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.
:grampa
Bro Epley-- You'd never have a need to know how to use a proxy server unless you were attempting to hide your real identity.
I think it's a little late for you to be trying to hide. :D
Nahum
04-03-2007, 03:00 PM
Daniel is gonna be soooo mad. He stayed up nights trying to figure out who the Swordsman was. Sometimes you just gotta CUT posters loose.
Get it? I said cut and he's the swordsman!
I kill me! :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy
Felicity
04-03-2007, 03:02 PM
It's possible that he was using a proxy server, which is against forum rules. He wouldn't be the first that was banned for that reason-- but I don't know for sure if that was why.
It could have absolutely nothing to do with him posting scriptures.I would certainly hope not!
We've had posters do this in the past on other forums and they were never banned.
Steve Epley
04-03-2007, 03:02 PM
Bro Epley-- You'd never have a need to know how to use a proxy server unless you were attempting to hide your real identity.
I think it's a little late for you to be trying to hide. :D
Now the question let's say Swordman is a regular(again I have NO idea who he or she is) and their posts were ONLY scripture without comment what violence is done? Now y'all have been good to me I can get pointed and needed to apologize and did. I have edited posts when asked and sometimes after reading what I wrote I edited them myself. But banned for quoting the Bible how innocent can you be and what would be the crime. Not trying to be contentious y'all know I know how to do that but I am not understanding this help me?
Coonskinner
04-03-2007, 03:05 PM
Let's go ahead and identify the elephant in the room--just in case it was WWOD, he's gone.
Steve Epley
04-03-2007, 03:05 PM
Let's go ahead and identify the elephant in the room--just in case it was WWOD, he's gone.
Was it him?????????????????????????????
Coonskinner
04-03-2007, 03:06 PM
Was it him?????????????????????????????
I don't think so.
Coonskinner
04-03-2007, 03:10 PM
I just asked.
It wasn't WWOD.
False alarm.:)
Actaeon
04-03-2007, 03:12 PM
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Jekyll
04-03-2007, 03:13 PM
Pro 28:1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 03:14 PM
Sometimes you just gotta CUT posters loose.
Get it? I said cut and he's the swordsman!
I kill me! :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy
I say - I say, I keep a-throwin'em boy and you keep a-missin'em! Ya got a hole in ya glove! Went right by ya! ya too slow! Ain't got enough pep!
Boy's 'bout as sharp as a bowlin' ball...
Actaeon
04-03-2007, 03:14 PM
Pro 28:1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.
Some how your avatar ruins that verse........... :slaphappy
Bro Epley-- You'd never have a need to know how to use a proxy server unless you were attempting to hide your real identity.
I think it's a little late for you to be trying to hide. :D
Trying to hide is one motive, not wanting your every move to be monitored on the WWW is another.
I say - I say, I keep a-throwin'em boy and you keep a-missin'em! Ya got a hole in ya glove! Went right by ya! ya too slow! Ain't got enough pep!
Boy's 'bout as sharp as a bowlin' ball...
Okay Foghorn!:toofunny
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 03:21 PM
Okay Foghorn!:toofunny
Go away kid... ya bother me
:tiphat
Actaeon
04-03-2007, 03:24 PM
Pro 29:9 If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.
Pastor Baird
04-03-2007, 03:32 PM
Seems to me Bro Epley and I are just about the only two members on here who DON'T try to hide our identity.:tiphat
WHAT ARE YA-ALL HIDING FOR ?.?...:aaa ?
:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy
I am Ron B which stands for a mispronounced last name.
Seems to me Bro Epley and I are just about the only two members on here who DON'T try to hide our identity.:tiphat
WHAT ARE YA-ALL HIDING FOR ?.?...:aaa ?
:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy
I'm using my real name. :D I just didn't put the last name because no one could pronounce it anyway! :D
Felicity
04-03-2007, 04:10 PM
Pro 29:9 If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.This scripture ..... wow!
I am taking a rest. :tiphat
Bro Epley-- You'd never have a need to know how to use a proxy server unless you were attempting to hide your real identity.
I think it's a little late for you to be trying to hide. :D
What if Bro. Epley is really some ultra-lib lady preacher and has been fooling us all along?
mfblume
04-03-2007, 04:27 PM
Seems to me Bro Epley and I are just about the only two members on here who DON'T try to hide our identity.:tiphat
WHAT ARE YA-ALL HIDING FOR ?.?...:aaa ?
:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy
Me, too!
Seems to me Bro Epley and I are just about the only two members on here who DON'T try to hide our identity.
...
I use the posting name of Sam but also include my real name, Jim Ellis.
I use the posting name of Sam but also include my real name, Jim Ellis.
And some times I include my real picture:
Praxeas
04-03-2007, 05:06 PM
I don't see a banned swordsman
MissBrattified
04-03-2007, 05:09 PM
1. I seriously doubt it was WWOD.
2. Is it against the rules to use a proxy server????
How is hiding your identity with a proxy server any different than hiding it with an anonymous username?
Praxeas
04-03-2007, 05:21 PM
1. I seriously doubt it was WWOD.
2. Is it against the rules to use a proxy server????
How is hiding your identity with a proxy server any different than hiding it with an anonymous username?
Yes it is against the rules. Why? Because we can compare the IP addresses of folks that were banned who try to sneak back in and because we can they often resort to proxy servers AND spammers also use proxy servers
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 05:22 PM
Seems to me Bro Epley and I are just about the only two members on here who DON'T try to hide our identity.:tiphat
WHAT ARE YA-ALL HIDING FOR ?.?...:aaa ?
:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy
Yeah right... Read my sig, bubba.
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 05:53 PM
say It Ain't So
Long live Ginsu boy!
Pastor Baird
04-03-2007, 06:09 PM
What if Bro. Epley is really some ultra-lib lady preacher and has been fooling us all along?
Then I guess he'll be needing to listen to a message about lying and the HOT place:nahnah:
...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy ...:slaphappy
I just asked.
It wasn't WWOD.
False alarm.:)
Wow! I am amazed he has been able to stay away. I am sure he lurks and it must kill him not to respond to some posts. I know it would me.
I didn't see the post in question but I would think using a proxy server would be right up WWOD's technical alley if he ever gave in and decided to post.
Perhaps with a special email addres in Switzerland right next to his Swiss bank account!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MissBrattified
04-03-2007, 07:38 PM
Yes it is against the rules. Why? Because we can compare the IP addresses of folks that were banned who try to sneak back in and because we can they often resort to proxy servers AND spammers also use proxy servers
O I C. :igotit
Steve Epley
04-03-2007, 08:01 PM
Will Swordman be allowed to post or not that is the question?
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 08:04 PM
Ginsu! (http://www.ginsuguys.net)
Will Swordman be allowed to post or not that is the question?
No. By virtue of using a proxy server he or she was trying to shield their identity from the forum managers.
The only reason for a proxy server is to not show what server/ip address you are really posting from.
Forum admins cannot tell when someone using a proxy server and were banned would come back on. That is one of the main reasons one of the rules is that you cannot use a proxy server.
One of the admins posted that when this person was emailed or PM'd about using the proxy server they did not even respond. More evidence their intentions are not honorable.
Elder Epley,
Whoever Swordsman was could come back and post under their regular server under a new screen name and they could then post I am sure.
Steve Epley
04-03-2007, 08:17 PM
No. By virtue of using a proxy server he or she was trying to shield their identity from the forum managers.
The only reason for a proxy server is to not show what server/ip address you are really posting from.
Forum admins cannot tell when someone using a proxy server and were banned would come back on. That is one of the main reasons one of the rules is that you cannot use a proxy server.
One of the admins posted that when this person was emailed or PM'd about using the proxy server they did not even respond. More evidence their intentions are not honorable.
The person in question whose identity I do not know pmed me with a pm he sent to the administrators and said it was not so he was not on a proxy server. So what is the deal??? I said he but I don't know if it is a he or she but they are saying this is NOT so. So adminstration needs to clear this up
The person in question whose identity I do not know pmed me with a pm he sent to the administrators and said it was not so he was not on a proxy server. So what is the deal??? I said he but I don't know if it is a he or she but they are saying this is NOT so. So adminstration needs to clear this up
The Swordsman did send a PM to me because I was one of the staff online at the time, and I forwarded it to StMatthew. I'm sorry I can't do anything more. I'm just a moderator-- and the technical stuff is left up to those that actually know something about it. They don't want me in there messing around trying to figure out what is going on. I'm sure StMatthew will check into it as soon as he can. :)
Steve Epley
04-03-2007, 08:25 PM
The Swordsman did send a PM to me because I was one of the staff online at the time, and I forwarded it to StMatthew. I'm sorry I can't do anything more. I'm just a moderator-- and the technical stuff is left up to those that actually know something about it. They don't want me in there messing around trying to figure out what is going on. I'm sure StMatthew will check into it as soon as he can. :)
Thank you.
Thank you.
You're welcome :)
Scott Hutchinson
04-03-2007, 08:34 PM
I can't hide if I wanted too ,causing I'm using real name ,unless my name is really not Scott Hutchinson
SoCaliUPC
04-03-2007, 08:47 PM
Why do bannings of individuals have to become a trial for the moderators and admin of this board? Should we take a poll each and every time that an admin makes a decision to ban someone so that it is acceptable to everyone? It is not like the admin here are on a power trip.
I think that the question could have been asked to Admin via PM.
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 08:50 PM
The people who own the board have set these folks up as admins and moderators. They have confidence in them to make decisions on behalf of the best interests of the board and the owners.
They have the right to make those decisions as they see fit, regardless of whether the posters here agree with those decisions...
If one doesn't agree with those decisions, one has the right to not be a poster here.
That goes for me as much as anyone else...
I can't hide if I wanted too ,causing I'm using real name ,unless my name is really not Scott Hutchinson
My name is really Daniel Alicea .... for what it's worth.
Praxeas
04-03-2007, 09:06 PM
O I C. :igotit
BTW it's OPEN proxies that are not allowed, not necessarily proxies. We would have to do that case by case and see if there is a real reason
Praxeas
04-03-2007, 09:06 PM
Will Swordman be allowed to post or not that is the question?
He isn't banned that I can see
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 09:08 PM
Why does Epley seem to think he is? And if he's not labeled as banned, how does Epley have visibility to it as though he is?
Perhaps his IP address is banned from the forum or site?
Or perhaps Epley is just looking to stir up conversation... and trouble. ;)
I don't know about his ability to post on the forum-- but I do know he can communicate by PM with admin, because I have a few PMs from him.
If he was able to PM Bro Epley-- he should be able to post on the forum.
I thought if someone was banned, their PM ability was restricted only to talking to Admin.
Scott Hutchinson
04-03-2007, 09:10 PM
My name is really Daniel Alicea .... for what it's worth.
And I thought you were WH.
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 09:12 PM
I don't know about his ability to post on the forum-- but I do know he can communicate by PM with admin, because I have a few PMs from him.
If he was able to PM Bro Epley-- he should be able to post on the forum.
I thought if someone was banned, their PM ability was restricted only to talking to Admin.
It usually is, unless the admin team has set up special permissions for the 'banned' usergroup.
There's a reason to deny them the ability to pm others while banned though, so I doubt the admin team has done that.
I think there's some type of serious misunderstanding...
Scott Hutchinson
04-03-2007, 09:12 PM
All of this reminds me of Remus for some strange reason.
Praxeas
04-03-2007, 09:14 PM
He is not banned. He was not banned. He was not unable to post. He is not using an open proxy. His IP address does have the word "proxy" in it. We've looked into it and can see that his IP is legit. Now go about your business folks, there's nothing to see here.
The Swordsman
04-03-2007, 09:17 PM
2Thessalonians 3:1
Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
Praxeas
04-03-2007, 09:20 PM
2Thessalonians 3:1
Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
lol
Scott Hutchinson
04-03-2007, 09:21 PM
2Thessalonians 3:1
Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
He'll post it next in the NIV.
That swordsman seems really liberal.
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 09:22 PM
Ginsu Boy!
Praxeas
04-03-2007, 09:23 PM
I have insider information that the culprit of the rumor that TheSwordsman was banned was Scott Hutchinson. Yup, that dastardly trouble maker was at it again. :happydance
Ronzo
04-03-2007, 09:23 PM
That dude is trouble, Prax.
Scott Hutchinson
04-03-2007, 09:25 PM
Yes and the Swordsman pastors a mega church in Kentucky.
The Swordsman is a big Trinitarian as well.
Steve Epley
04-03-2007, 09:28 PM
I want to be clear I never accused the adminstration of wrong doing I just wanted to know? I guess I could have pmed them and I am sorry I did not. This was not to embarrass nor intimidate them. I have no idea who Swordman is but it was he-she that pmed me and I asked them if I could post it. I will not include all the info for it would be too personal. Again if my manner was sloppy forgive me.
Scott Hutchinson
04-03-2007, 09:32 PM
Elder Epley you meant no harm my friend.You can't slay hogs over the screen.
HeavenlyOne
04-03-2007, 09:54 PM
Wow! I am amazed he has been able to stay away. I am sure he lurks and it must kill him not to respond to some posts. I know it would me.
I didn't see the post in question but I would think using a proxy server would be right up WWOD's technical alley if he ever gave in and decided to post.
Perhaps with a special email addres in Switzerland right next to his Swiss bank account!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:bigbaby :anonymous :thad :sorry
:oops :oops :oops
:heeheehee
Old Paths
04-03-2007, 10:19 PM
Fogive me for I have sinned.
I should have NEVER showed the Elder how to start a thread.
Hee heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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