Laodicea Had A Warning - Take 2

[rrford]

Tucked away, and almost overlooked in the book of Colossians, are four verses that reference the church of Laodicea. When most folks hear that church mentioned they immediately think of the admonition given to them in the book of Revelation. In fact, the church of Laodicea is mentioned more in Colossians than in Revelation.

It makes one wonder if there is not some import in the Colossians references. Looking into those specific verses indeed shows us a strong intent by the Apostle Paul in mentioning this church in an Epistle to the Colossians.

A brief overview of the book of Colossians is very telling in the intent that Paul had. It was written by Paul somewhere between 60 and 64 AD. The purpose of the writing was to counteract doctrinal errors in the church that were arising from Judaistic, oriental, and philosophic influences in the church. When these components begin to enter into the church they have the tendency to overshadow the person and work of Jesus Christ. When that is overshadowed then it is an easy digression into weak doctrine. That in turn leads to worldliness in the body which will diminish the level of spirituality present in the body.

Paul re-affirms the divinity of Jesus Christ and emphasizes the proper understanding of who He is. He then moves on and lets them know that he is anxious for them. His purpose is to make them realize that they are united in love as they understand the mysteries of God. The writer then quickly moves onto warnings against allowing false doctrine to infiltrate the church. Worldly philosophies and legalism are soundly condemned and the liberty of the Cross and Christ are exalted. He even goes so far as to warn them about being consumed with ceremonialism.

In chapter 3, he admonishes them to mortify the flesh, put on the spiritual adornments, practice Christian graces, spiritual love, and to live up to their responsibilities.

But most interesting to note is that in the last few verses of chapter 4 he mentions Laodicea 3 times. Once as a point of interest, second as a greeting, and thirdly as a directive to cause the Epistle to the Colossians to be read in the church as Laodicea. Colossians 4:16 “And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans;”

That arrested my attention. Could it be that Paul was doing his best to forewarn the church of Laodicea that they were heading in a wring direction? Could it be that approximately 32 years before the rebuke in Revelation was given that the Apostle sent a heads up that should have made them examine their practices and mindsets? I have often wondered how different Laodicea could have been had she heeded the words of the Epistle to the Colossians.

It makes on wonder what “Epistle” has the church not heeded from days gone by? As we see worldly philosophies and legalism both creep into the church can we honestly expect any other response from the Lord than what Laodicea did? When the church endeavors to be relevant to the world and loses its identity of, and in, Jesus Christ she has become a modern day Laodicea. The church of today, just like the church of Laodicea, will never be able to say that God judged without warning. Heaven help us to read the message to the Colossians and examine where we are that we may remain faithful until that day.

[Old Paths]

It's just as good the second time around.

Job 33:14
For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.
KJV

[Ron]

Tucked away, and almost overlooked in the book of Colossians, are four verses that reference the church of Laodicea. When most folks hear that church mentioned they immediately think of the admonition given to them in the book of Revelation. In fact, the church of Laodicea is mentioned more in Colossians than in Revelation.

It makes one wonder if there is not some import in the Colossians references. Looking into those specific verses indeed shows us a strong intent by the Apostle Paul in mentioning this church in an Epistle to the Colossians.

A brief overview of the book of Colossians is very telling in the intent that Paul had. It was written by Paul somewhere between 60 and 64 AD. The purpose of the writing was to counteract doctrinal errors in the church that were arising from Judaistic, oriental, and philosophic influences in the church. When these components begin to enter into the church they have the tendency to overshadow the person and work of Jesus Christ. When that is overshadowed then it is an easy digression into weak doctrine. That in turn leads to worldliness in the body which will diminish the level of spirituality present in the body.

Paul re-affirms the divinity of Jesus Christ and emphasizes the proper understanding of who He is. He then moves on and lets them know that he is anxious for them. His purpose is to make them realize that they are united in love as they understand the mysteries of God. The writer then quickly moves onto warnings against allowing false doctrine to infiltrate the church. Worldly philosophies and legalism are soundly condemned and the liberty of the Cross and Christ are exalted. He even goes so far as to warn them about being consumed with ceremonialism.

In chapter 3, he admonishes them to mortify the flesh, put on the spiritual adornments, practice Christian graces, spiritual love, and to live up to their responsibilities.

But most interesting to note is that in the last few verses of chapter 4 he mentions Laodicea 3 times. Once as a point of interest, second as a greeting, and thirdly as a directive to cause the Epistle to the Colossians to be read in the church as Laodicea. Colossians 4:16 “And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans;”

That arrested my attention. Could it be that Paul was doing his best to forewarn the church of Laodicea that they were heading in a wring direction? Could it be that approximately 32 years before the rebuke in Revelation was given that the Apostle sent a heads up that should have made them examine their practices and mindsets? I have often wondered how different Laodicea could have been had she heeded the words of the Epistle to the Colossians.

It makes on wonder what “Epistle” has the church not heeded from days gone by? As we see worldly philosophies and legalism both creep into the church can we honestly expect any other response from the Lord than what Laodicea did? When the church endeavors to be relevant to the world and loses its identity of, and in, Jesus Christ she has become a modern day Laodicea. The church of today, just like the church of Laodicea, will never be able to say that God judged without warning. Heaven help us to read the message to the Colossians and examine where we are that we may remain faithful until that day.


Very good.
It is interesting to note that you mention legalism, and ceremonialism.
Those are things that the Church of today complains about.
I do no think it is more laws, or more liberwalism that is needed.

I think it is a rememberence to fall back in love with Jesus where you will want to please him no matter what the cost.
We would also desire to love the brethren (& Sistren:winkgrin ) as well.

Isn't that what garnered the Church at Philedelphia (brotherly love) a commendation from the Lord?
They were strong in doctrine, faithful in suffering, and loved both the Lord and their brethren.

Lord help us to heed the Spirit's warning for I do believe that he is, and has been speaking to the Church.

Great post brother.

[Sam]

My prayer is like one that I heard from one of the teaching pastors at our church on 4/9/99 just before he spoke:
"Open your Word to me
and
open me to your Word."

or paraphrased
"Lord, help me to look into the mirror of your Word (James 1:22-25), and honestly evaluate myself, and then by your grace and by the help of your Holy Spirit, make the changes I need to make."

[Actaeon]

What's this thread got to do with ashes? :surrender

[Steve Epley]

Didn't they have an earthquake in Laodicea?????????????:aaa

[Coonskinner]

This is a great piece.

I copied and pasted it into a special file I have on my computer.

[Coonskinner]

It makes on wonder what “Epistle” has the church not heeded from days gone by? As we see worldly philosophies and legalism both creep into the church can we honestly expect any other response from the Lord than what Laodicea did?

This segment really stuck out to me.

Both legalism and worldly permissiveness are extreme reactions that lead one away from truth and grace.

[Steve Epley]

I rpeached a message a few years ago at different meetings "What Happened to the Epistle to the Laodiceans?" Of course the message wasn't that good because of the preacher however my thoughts ran the same as Rford. Their carelessness not immorality or doctrinal impurity caused an Epistle to be lost.

[Scott Hutchinson]

The lesson here is for me is that when a church loses focus on preaching Christ and him crucified ,and gets off on doctrinal tangents on things that are debatable and have no scriptural backing then havoc is reeked in a church.
A balance is needed the anything goes of Antinomianism , leads to destruction , but legalism and false concepts of Holiness leads to frustration and a religion based on works and not grace.

[freeatlast]

Thanks RRFord. I found it interesting to find evidence of "lost books" recorded in the word.

The lost letter to the Corinthian church is another.

I think the lost Corinthian letter was mainly a correspondence by Paul to clear up His confusing words in I Cor. 11 :slaphappy

Whatever the subject addressed by Paul in those letters, it would be nice to be able to read them.

[Apostolic Kitty]

So... I thought it said part 3 when it was take 2... And I take it that this is the original posting?? I put it in word.

[ForeverBlessed]

awesome... much to think about. Thank you for reposting. :tiphat

[ForeverBlessed]

So... I thought it said part 3 when it was take 2... And I take it that this is the original posting?? I put it in word.

I have a stash of RRford stuff on my home computer. :winkgrin

[Nahum]

This is a great piece.

I copied and pasted it into a special file I have on my computer.

The recycle bin? :slaphappy :slaphappy

[Theresa]

can someone give me the reference to the warning found in Revelation?

[Ron]

can someone give me the reference to the warning found in Revelation?

Hi Theresa, read the first post in this thread.

[Theresa]

Hi Theresa, read the first post in this thread.

I had - I overlooked it - but I found it myself...I was trying to do several things at once - needed to just STOP and read it and absorb what I was reading

Good Stuff..

I have some questions, but it will only show how dumb I am - so I'll keep reading to see if I can find my own answer :)

[Theresa]

(we need more threads like this)

or yet (I need more threads like this)

[Carpenter]

Tucked away, and almost overlooked in the book of Colossians, are four verses that reference the church of Laodicea...

See...this is why churches are soooo blessed to have you in their pulpits!

Man, you need to bring this sermon to these parts and toss the church on its ear...so they will invite you back as a regular occurance. :D

Awesome RRFORD Bravo! :rooting




...notwithstanding I am sure we could have an hours long conversation on our two differing opinions on what is putting the church to sleep nowadays.
:heeheehee

[Carpenter]

I am kind of curious as well why this keeps getting pushed to page 2...

[Sam]

I rpeached a message a few years ago at different meetings "What Happened to the Epistle to the Laodiceans?" Of course the message wasn't that good because of the preacher however my thoughts ran the same as Rford. Their carelessness not immorality or doctrinal impurity caused an Epistle to be lost.

Some teach that the Epistle that we call "Ephesians" may have been the one referred to by Paul as the Laodicean epistle. Some old copies of Ephesians have a blank space in verse one of chapter one where others have the word "Ephesus." Both Colossians and Ephesians along with Philippians and Philemon are thought to have been written by Paul when he was under arrest in Rome during the years AD 60 and 62 (Ref Acts 28).

[rrford]

I am kind of curious as well why this keeps getting pushed to page 2...

Because it cannot be allowed to outpost my other thread about "snorting your father's ashes." :slaphappy

[Carpenter]

I was almost able to read through this thread...but I fell asleep... :D

[Sister Alvear]

very stirring...

[Carpenter]

very stirring...

Hypnotic...

[rrford]

I was almost able to read through this thread...but I fell asleep... :D

You were alseep long before you tried to read this thread. :slaphappy