News Flash!!!!!!! Upc Pastor's Wife Appears On Tv!

[SoCaliUPC]

Yes....A UPCI Pastor's Wife appeared on Late Night with David Letterman tonight. Dave was out in the audience and asked the pastor's wife a question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Thad]

DO NOT reveal who it is ! ! !

what a big sinner I'm calling her Dist Supt in the morning !!!!

[Monkeyman]

I saw his show a few years ago, do I need to confess to someone?

[SoCaliUPC]

DO NOT reveal who it is ! ! !

what a big sinner I'm calling her Dist Supt in the morning !!!!

Never!!! But something tells me, he already knows! :winkgrin :slaphappy

[chaotic_resolve]

And you know this how? Was she wearing a big "I'm a UPC Pastor's Wife" sign or something? :aaa

[SoCaliUPC]

And you know this how? Was she wearing a big "I'm a UPC Pastor's Wife" sign or something? :aaa

Let's see...know this because I saw it. Not wearing sign, no.....she's "known."

[Thad]

Never!!! But something tells me, he already knows! :winkgrin :slaphappy


Then I'm going to put out a petition drive and send it to Haneywood !!!!

[Trouvere]

Who in the world was up watching letterman?

[Praxeas]

Yes....A UPCI Pastor's Wife appeared on Late Night with David Letterman tonight. Dave was out in the audience and asked the pastor's wife a question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's bigger news? That she was on TV or that she was there to begin with? And, how does she know about him? Does she watch him regularly? :happydance

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

What's bigger news? That she was on TV or that she was there to begin with? And, how does she know about him? Does she watch him regularly? :happydance

Is it on YouTube yet? :toofunny

[Steve Epley]

What's bigger news? That she was on TV or that she was there to begin with? And, how does she know about him? Does she watch him regularly? :happydance

Those are good questions?:tiphat

[Neck]

Who in the world was up watching letterman?

Ever heard of DVR?

[Steve Epley]

Ever heard of DVR?

I have never seen Dave Letterman have I missed alot?????? I do remember Johnie Carson he was much back then that was in the 60's. I do not feel deprived.:tiphat

[Scott Hutchinson]

Why would a Christian want to go see the David Letterman show in the first place?

[tv1a]

Letterman is a better show than Leno.

Why would a Christian want to go see the David Letterman show in the first place?

[tv1a]

You go to New York to be entertained, shop, or look at tall buldings and statues. Other than that, there isn't really much to NYC...

Why would a Christian want to go see the David Letterman show in the first place?

[MrsMcD]

I have never seen Dave Letterman have I missed alot?????? I do remember Johnie Carson he was much back then that was in the 60's. I do not feel deprived.:tiphat

No, you haven't missed anything. :tiphat

[COOPER]

Ever heard of DVR?
THAT MEANS CABLE OR SATELLITE!!

[COOPER]

Yes....A UPCI Pastor's Wife appeared on Late Night with David Letterman tonight. Dave was out in the audience and asked the pastor's wife a question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TONIGHT??? AS In April 3, 2007 show?

[LadyChocolate]

why would it be sooo hush hush for us to know who it is if she went on national tv for billions to see? doesn't make sense to me

[COOPER]

Contestant #1: Heather, from Anchorage, Alaska. What's it like in Alaska? "It's frozen and it's cold." Just like the Ed Sullivan Theater. She's a mom of three and owns a children's clothing store. She's here with her husband. Dave leans over to greet the husband who does not rise to meet Dave. Dave mutters with sarcasm, "Don't get up." The guy was in a no-win situation. If he had stood up, Dave would have told him to sit down. Whichever way it goes, it makes me laugh every time.
What does Heather want to play? Know Your Current Events
#1. This week, New Yorkers had to trudge through four inches of what?
Answer: Discarded Knicks tickets.
#2. Why has President Bush kept mostly silent about Barack Obama?
Answer: He can't pronounce his name.

Contestant #2: Kerry Anne from Chicago. While Dave and KerryAnne chat, our camera starts going haywire, moving up and down and side to side. Dave finally notices the screwy camera and asks our cameraman Dave Dorsett what's the problem. The ever honest Mr. Dorsett responds, "Sorry, Dave, I was just trying to liven up this ........."
Kerry Anne owns a housecat named Phoenix that weighs 20 pounds. Heck, we have rats in the theater that big. Kerry Ann chooses, "Know Your Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show."
#1. (photo of a bald dog-judge.) This year, prominent judge Dr. Robert Indeglia was selected to judge which category?
Answer: "Hairless breeds"
#2. (photo of golden retriever getting his teeth inspected) Here we see a judge checking for what?
Answer: "Clues to what happened to a missing Teacup Chihuahua

Contestant #3. Susan, from Jacksonville, Florida. She's here on her honeymoon. Late Show viewers should have known what was coming next. Dave wonders why anyone would want to spend their honeymoon at the Late Show. As Dave hands Susan the category card, he says to her, "Make a choice. Discuss it with your husband . . . this could be your first big decision as a couple." I laughed when Susan didn't even look towards her husband. She perused the card and decided on Know Your Cuts of Meat. Tonight's featured meats: Beef round top round roast, and ground veal. Congratulations to Susan for knowing the ground veal.

And that was Know Your Current Events.

[MrsMcD]

why would it be sooo hush hush for us to know who it is if she went on national tv for billions to see? doesn't make sense to me

Really! My thoughts exactly. If she cared for folks knowing, she wouldn't have gone on television.

[Ron]

Contestant #1: Heather, from Anchorage, Alaska. What's it like in Alaska? "It's frozen and it's cold." Just like the Ed Sullivan Theater. She's a mom of three and owns a children's clothing store. She's here with her husband. Dave leans over to greet the husband who does not rise to meet Dave. Dave mutters with sarcasm, "Don't get up." The guy was in a no-win situation. If he had stood up, Dave would have told him to sit down. Whichever way it goes, it makes me laugh every time.
What does Heather want to play? Know Your Current Events
#1. This week, New Yorkers had to trudge through four inches of what?
Answer: Discarded Knicks tickets.
#2. Why has President Bush kept mostly silent about Barack Obama?
Answer: He can't pronounce his name.

Contestant #2: Kerry Anne from Chicago. While Dave and KerryAnne chat, our camera starts going haywire, moving up and down and side to side. Dave finally notices the screwy camera and asks our cameraman Dave Dorsett what's the problem. The ever honest Mr. Dorsett responds, "Sorry, Dave, I was just trying to liven up this ........."
Kerry Anne owns a housecat named Phoenix that weighs 20 pounds. Heck, we have rats in the theater that big. Kerry Ann chooses, "Know Your Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show."
#1. (photo of a bald dog-judge.) This year, prominent judge Dr. Robert Indeglia was selected to judge which category?
Answer: "Hairless breeds"
#2. (photo of golden retriever getting his teeth inspected) Here we see a judge checking for what?
Answer: "Clues to what happened to a missing Teacup Chihuahua

Contestant #3. Susan, from Jacksonville, Florida. She's here on her honeymoon. Late Show viewers should have known what was coming next. Dave wonders why anyone would want to spend their honeymoon at the Late Show. As Dave hands Susan the category card, he says to her, "Make a choice. Discuss it with your husband . . . this could be your first big decision as a couple." I laughed when Susan didn't even look towards her husband. She perused the card and decided on Know Your Cuts of Meat. Tonight's featured meats: Beef round top round roast, and ground veal. Congratulations to Susan for knowing the ground veal.

And that was Know Your Current Events.

So, which one was it?

I am of the opinion if you go on TV don't be embarrassed if it is known.
If you don't want it known-don't go.

Boy that was simple.

[Ron]

Really! My thoughts exactly. If she cared for folks knowing, she wouldn't have gone on television.

Great Minds Think....:tiphat

[LadyChocolate]

Really! My thoughts exactly. If she cared for folks knowing, she wouldn't have gone on television.

yeah exactly............... this is a "duh" thing. she appears before millions of people, but don't tell anyone.... dope

[Kutless]

yeah exactly............... this is a "duh" thing. she appears before millions of people, but don't tell anyone.... dopeMaybe certain ones enjoy the fact that they are "in the know" and dangle it.

Seems to be a reaccurring theme around here.

[COOPER]

So, which one was it?

I am of the opinion if you go on TV don't be embarrassed if it is known.
If you don't want it known-don't go.

Boy that was simple.
Sister Kerry Anne from Chicago!!!:toofunny

[Ron]

Sister Kerry Anne from Chicago!!!:toofunny

I hope she enjoyed her prize!:winkgrin

[Trouvere]

wow what an exciting show.......not

[Scott Hutchinson]

You go to New York to be entertained, shop, or look at tall buldings and statues. Other than that, there isn't really much to NYC...

I could think of better things to do in NYC than see Letterman.
Now Branson that's a place I could enjoy.

[COOPER]

wow what an exciting show.......not

I like the Ten list and Will It Float.

Better than Leno, Leno is a potty mouth.

[rgcraig]

Yep, if she didn't want anyone to know she shouldn't have gone on the show!

[StillStanding]

Will someone PLESAE spill the beans and get this OVER with? :D

[Felicity]

Will someone PLESAE spill the beans and get this OVER with? :DExactly what I was thinking! Who is this lady? LOL. Not that I really care or anything. I don't. :)

[MrsMcD]

We don't care. We are just nosy. LOL

[Felicity]

We don't care. We are just nosy. LOLLOL! Right. :toofunny

[Thad]

I am waiting for the okay to do so

[Felicity]

I am waiting for the okay to do soYou have my permission! :toofunny

[Thad]

You have my permission! :toofunny


If i could go on that I would but paranoia has set in ! :slaphappy

I knew about Dan seagraves leaving CLC but the CIA secret police would not hear of it being posted

[rgcraig]

I am waiting for the okay to do so

Thad - seriously....she WAS on TV last night!

[Thad]

Thad - seriously....she WAS on TV last night!



I KNOW I KNOW

[rgcraig]

I KNOW I KNOW

It won't change my day though :happydance

[Ron]

It has already been stated in this thread who she is.:D

[rgcraig]

It has already been stated in this thread who she is.:D

Wasn't sure if Coop knew or was guessing.

[Thad]

Wasn't sure if Coop knew or was guessing.


it's the last name that would get me in trouble.
she's a well known pastor's wife.
I have not told a soul !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Felicity]

Sister Kerry Anne from Chicago!!!:toofunnyDidn't see this earlier. Whoever Kerry Anne is. Means nothing to me.

[rgcraig]

Last night's show was aired originally on 2/15/07, so it's been on TV twice now.

[MrsMcD]

Maybe certain ones enjoy the fact that they are "in the know" and dangle it.
Seems to be a reaccurring theme around here.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

[Thad]

I think you hit the nail on the head.

No not for me. on FCF and Thads Tab I was very upfront.
This forum has a different sort of personality. you have to tread lightly here. that's ok! I'm not kncking it just saying what is

[revrandy]

WHOA!!!! I just found out who it is...

A Possible Conservative Biggie...... (as least on the forefront)...

NO WONDER HER HUSBAND DIDN"T GET UP!!!!!!!


HEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!

[revrandy]

I just called a freind of mine... In AK...

This is old news....

The show was a rerun...

but here's a vid clip...

vKlBYKsUins

[Felicity]

Oops, guess it wasn't Kerry Anne. :D

[MrsMcD]

No not for me. on FCF and Thads Tab I was very upfront.
This forum has a different sort of personality. you have to tread lightly here. that's ok! I'm not kncking it just saying what is

I know what you mean. :tiphat

[SoCaliUPC]

Why would a Christian want to go see the David Letterman show in the first place?


Hmmm.....just a question but what does a Christian have anything to do with going to a show?

[Theresa]

I know him LOL what is her name?

[SoCaliUPC]

TONIGHT??? AS In April 3, 2007 show?

It appeared last night (April 3rd).

[SoCaliUPC]

why would it be sooo hush hush for us to know who it is if she went on national tv for billions to see? doesn't make sense to me

Can't have it both ways hun. It has been stated more than once that we are here to discuss the issue not the name. Sooooooooooo, I guess the issue is should UPC ministers and wives be going to TV shows on their vacation?

[revrandy]

Can't have it both ways hun. It has been stated more than once that we are here to discuss the issue not the name. Sooooooooooo, I guess the issue is should UPC ministers and wives be going to TV shows on their vacation?

I think the issue would be...IF they specifically Preached against TV... then it's ooopppssss... redface time...

[Michlow]

To be honest, not recognizing the name, if I had just happened to see the show, I never would have thought her UPC.

[revrandy]

Dudes & Dudettes...

You know when Letterman choose her... something probaly died in that man...HEHEHEHE...

[SoCaliUPC]

Maybe certain ones enjoy the fact that they are "in the know" and dangle it.

Seems to be a reaccurring theme around here.

Unless the rules of this forum has changed....and names are allowed to be said, I will fully comply. We were asked to talk about issues, and that is basically what people wanted...and not names....as to put names out there would insinuate "gossip" (even IF it is true).

The issue at hand is what if it was YOUR pastor's wife who went on vacation and appeared on the show? Is it appropriate?

[MrsMcD]

To be honest, not recognizing the name, if I had just happened to see the show, I never would have thought her UPC.

I wouldn't have noticed she was UPC either.

[SoCaliUPC]

I could think of better things to do in NYC than see Letterman.
Now Branson that's a place I could enjoy.

Oh brother!! You are couuuunnnnnnnntry!!! :slaphappy

[Theresa]

Heather...

he dated LMW when he was in jackson LOL

[SoCaliUPC]

Exactly what I was thinking! Who is this lady? LOL. Not that I really care or anything. I don't. :)

WOW!! And to think, I thought some of us did not want to hear names...but talk about the issue. Hmmmm......

[revrandy]

Do you think she was "bundled" up as NOT be recognized possibly???? I am still laughing over this!!!

[Theresa]

Do you think she was "bundled" up as NOT be recognized possibly???? I am still laughing over this!!!

she might have been bundled up b/c it was cold and her outfit was cute LOL!!!!!!!!

[SoCaliUPC]

No not for me. on FCF and Thads Tab I was very upfront.
This forum has a different sort of personality. you have to tread lightly here. that's ok! I'm not kncking it just saying what is

Correct. From what I have come to understand, we are here to discuss the issue and not names. If that has changed...please let me know.

[Theresa]

Do you think she was "bundled" up as NOT be recognized possibly???? I am still laughing over this!!!

AND to not be recognized by all the OTHER UPC folks WATCHING at home

ROFL

[MrsMcD]

AND to not be recognized by all the OTHER UPC folks WATCHING at home

ROFL

:slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy

[SoCaliUPC]

WEll...now that we know...........(putting this in my bank the next time some people want to get "no name" happy)......

Is it appropriate for a minister and his wife to attend a TV show taping on their vacation?

My answer is YES it is okay. Did she or they do or say anything inappropriate or would bring about a negative image? Absolutely not. Were they a bad witness? Absolutely not. The show is a talk show where celebrities come on and talk. It is not like a UPC couple was caught in Vegas coming out of Zumanity or Jubilee.

[revrandy]

I could really care less one way or the other.. but this happened months ago.. and no effect...

This was not a spur of the moment either... you have to get tickets in advance.. so NO big deal here...

SoCali.. I think you are right...

[SoCaliUPC]

Do you think she was "bundled" up as NOT be recognized possibly???? I am still laughing over this!!!

I don't think they were completely worried about being recognized. Just curious, but why the laugh?

[Scott Hutchinson]

Oh brother!! You are couuuunnnnnnnntry!!! :slaphappy

Dollywood would be a place I would love to visit.

[SoCaliUPC]

I could really care less one way or the other.. but this happened months ago.. and no effect...

This was not a spur of the moment either... you have to get tickets in advance.. so NO big deal here...

SoCali.. I think you are right...

Furthermore...the people who are picked to do that portion of the show, are picked ahead of time. Usually 99% are tourists. They have to sign a release and are seated next to the front. If at any time it was wrong...(which I would love to hear the reasoning of why it would be)....they could have said no thanks.

[SoCaliUPC]

Dollywood would be a place I would love to visit.

Case closed! :slaphappy

[revrandy]

I don't think they were completely worried about being recognized. Just curious, but why the laugh?

I just thought it interesting that if you are considering doing this... and your wife out of everybody else gets picked..and your a UPC pastor.. what does this say to your congregation if you preach against TV?

And you find yourself in the spot light.. it's gotta be somewhat a little uncomfortable...

[Scott Hutchinson]

I could care less about seeing Letterman ,but I can't condemn these folks either.

[SoCaliUPC]

I just thought it interesting that if you are considering doing this... and your wife out of everybody else gets picked..and your a UPC pastor.. what does this say to your congregation if you preach against TV?

And you find yourself in the spot light.. it's gotta be somewhat a little uncomfortable...


Do we know if that is the case?

[tv1a]

Thank God for small miracles. The ultimate compliment is you don't look upc.


I wouldn't have noticed she was UPC either.

[SoCaliUPC]

Hmmm.....just a question but what does a Christian have anything to do with going to a show?

***bump for Scott H.*******

[MrsMcD]

I don't think they were completely worried about being recognized. Just curious, but why the laugh?

She was more bundled up than anyone else. If I remember right, the hat almost went to her eyes. She was cute!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Case closed! :slaphappy

I hear some twanging sounds coming out of Bakersfield.
My dream place to visit would be Canada though.

[Scott Hutchinson]

***bump for Scott H.*******

That was their preference ,ok this I understand.

[COOPER]

WHOA!!!! I just found out who it is...

A Possible Conservative Biggie...... (as least on the forefront)...

NO WONDER HER HUSBAND DIDN"T GET UP!!!!!!!


HEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!

Ahhhhh ha!!


The one from Alaska!!!:igotit

[SoCaliUPC]

She was more bundled up than anyone else. If I remember right, the hat almost went to her eyes. She was cute!

If you know anything about her....she is cold AAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL the time...and it is no secret that the temperture in the studio is frigid all the time.

[SoCaliUPC]

That was their preference ,ok this I understand.

Not answering the question. You stated why would a Christian want to go to a show like this? I want to know why you think a Christian should not go?

[Scott Hutchinson]

OK my friend ,maybe I sounded harsh I didn't mean to ,but to me I can't see anything that appealing in the David Letterman show to a believer.
I'm not casting judgement on my Sister.
I may do somethings that others don't care for either.

[Ron]

I hear some twanging sounds coming out of Bakersfield.
My dream place to visit would be Canada though.

You are always welcome in our parts!:tiphat

[Theresa]

OK my friend ,maybe I sounded harsh I didn't mean to ,but to me I can't see anything that appealing in the David Letterman show to a believer.
I'm not casting judgement on my Sister.
I may do somethings that others don't care for either.

some would say the same thing about Branson or Dollywood...

neither glorify God or come from a Christian perspective....

they are just "country".....

I think these are the things God entrusts us to make the best decisions for ourselves....you know?

[Scott Hutchinson]

I don't see the appeal of The David Letterman show for believers ,but I'm not these good folks.

[Hoovie]

OK my friend ,maybe I sounded harsh I didn't mean to ,but to me I can't see anything that appealing in the David Letterman show to a believer.
I'm not casting judgement on my Sister.
I may do somethings that others don't care for either.

Sometimes that is reason enough for a believer to participate. I was delighted to see the lady stand for truth on that Opra clip the other day.

[Scott Hutchinson]

some would say the same thing about Branson or Dollywood...

neither glorify God or come from a Christian perspective....

they are just "country".....

I think these are the things God entrusts us to make the best decisions for ourselves....you know?

I agree.Like I say if I sounded judgemental I didn't mean to.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Sometimes that is reason enough for a believer to participate. I was delighted to see the lady stand for truth on that Opra clip the other day.

That's fine I meant no harm.I'm not mean -spirited.

[Hoovie]

That's fine I meant no harm.I'm not mean -spirited.

I think we ALL know that!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Again I apologize if someone thought I am casting judgement on somebody.
I maybe didn't use the best wording.

[Theresa]

I agree.Like I say if I sounded judgemental I didn't mean to.

you didnt....and I didnt mean to come off as throwing it up to you...

[Scott Hutchinson]

I think we ALL know that!

I hope you do my friend, but please don't sing on TV. again J/k

[COOPER]

I just called a freind of mine... In AK...

This is old news....

The show was a rerun...

but here's a vid clip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKlBYKsUins

That is funny!!!!

Hope they had a good time!

[Scott Hutchinson]

you didnt....and I didnt mean to come off as throwing it up to you...

You didn't Sis , it's all made for love.

[MrsMcD]

Again I apologize if someone thought I am casting judgement on somebody.
I maybe didn't use the best wording.

Brother, we all know that you are not mean spirited! :friend

[SoCaliUPC]

some would say the same thing about Branson or Dollywood...

neither glorify God or come from a Christian perspective....

they are just "country".....

I think these are the things God entrusts us to make the best decisions for ourselves....you know?

Exactly. Not all entertainment is going to be about God...however, there are some forms of entertainment that are good.

Having been to Branson (and will never go back) the shows are country but nothing God-centered. However, it is good entertainment for those that like that. To put the logic presented about a Christian going to something like that...you ae right that the same could be said about Branson, or any other entertainment genre that did not bring glory or centered on God.

God does entrust us. It would be a totally different discussion if they were caught coming out a topless revue show. But, they were caught on tape in the audience of the David Letterman show. No bad done.

[SoCaliUPC]

I don't see the appeal of The David Letterman show for believers ,but I'm not these good folks.

Neither do some see the appeal of Branson night shows for believers....but we are not those good folks either.

[SoCaliUPC]

Sometimes that is reason enough for a believer to participate. I was delighted to see the lady stand for truth on that Opra clip the other day.

Which one?

[SoCaliUPC]

That's fine I meant no harm.I'm not mean -spirited.

We ALL know that. That is a given.

[Hoovie]

Which one?

That one where the lady in the audience insisted there is one way - Jesus.

[Hoovie]

I hope you do my friend, but please don't sing on TV. again J/k

LOL! I was hoping for a General Conference slot!

[becky123abc]

That one where the lady in the audience insisted there is one way - Jesus.

I bumped the Oprah thread if anyone missed it...

[MrsMcD]

Exactly. Not all entertainment is going to be about God...however, there are some forms of entertainment that are good.

Having been to Branson (and will never go back) the shows are country but nothing God-centered. However, it is good entertainment for those that like that. To put the logic presented about a Christian going to something like that...you ae right that the same could be said about Branson, or any other entertainment genre that did not bring glory or centered on God.

God does entrust us. It would be a totally different discussion if they were caught coming out a topless revue show. But, they were caught on tape in the audience of the David Letterman show. No bad done.

I went to Branson during Christmas and saw "Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede Christmas Show." It was centered around the birth of Christ. It was awesome. I was pleasantly surprised at how open they were about Christmas and the birth. They had an angel floating in the sky. It is neat.

If it had not been a Christmas show, I wouldn't have enjoyed it.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Neither do some see the appeal of Branson night shows for believers....but we are not those good folks either.

Yes I agree and their Holy Ghost is their guide.I've never been to Branson so I'm not really sure what goes on in those shows.

[Hoovie]

I bumped the Oprah thread if anyone missed it...

thanks

[Scott Hutchinson]

LOL! I was hoping for a General Conference slot!

Hey if I ever put on a convention ,you can provide the music.

[Theresa]

Exactly. Not all entertainment is going to be about God...however, there are some forms of entertainment that are good.

Having been to Branson (and will never go back) the shows are country but nothing God-centered. However, it is good entertainment for those that like that. To put the logic presented about a Christian going to something like that...you ae right that the same could be said about Branson, or any other entertainment genre that did not bring glory or centered on God.

God does entrust us. It would be a totally different discussion if they were caught coming out a topless revue show. But, they were caught on tape in the audience of the David Letterman show. No bad done.

I didnt read everything about that particular show, but I thought I saw something about a guest on that show was a particular challenge for the censors....meaning she had a potty mouth..I'd hope some portions of the taping were uncomfortable for a born again, HG filled person....

about going to David Letterman - nothing he talks about, very few guest he has or extra entertaining segments, are anything Christians, especially pentecostal folks should waste their time seeing...The arguement can be made that we see and hear the same thing on our job or out at the mall...so nothing is EVER cut and dry.

I dont think we as born again believers we are to stick our head in the sand and shelter ourselves from the real world, neither do I think we need to expose ourselves to things that are of the world that could be harmful. Our only commandment, as I understand it, it to bear fruit...how can you bear fruit if you dont go out into the harvest...BUT you dont go out there and become like the world and allow yourself to be influenced - you are a part of this world to make a difference

But the bottom line is - we make our own choices about our lives - and if we are living like we should, those choices are easy. (Most of the time)

[Hoovie]

Hey if I ever put on a convention ,you can provide the music.

Deal. My booking agent will contact you.

[Hoovie]

I didnt read everything about that particular show, but I thought I saw something about a guest on that show was a particular challenge for the censors....meaning she had a potty mouth..I'd hope some portions of the taping were uncomfortable for a born again, HG filled person....

about going to David Letterman - nothing he talks about, very few guest he has or extra entertaining segments, are anything Christians, especially pentecostal folks should waste their time seeing...The arguement can be made that we see and hear the same thing on our job or out at the mall...so nothing is EVER cut and dry.

I dont think we as born again believers we are to stick our head in the sand and shelter ourselves from the real world, neither do I think we need to expose ourselves to things that are of the world that could be harmful. Our only commandment, as I understand it, it to bear fruit...how can you bear fruit if you dont go out into the harvest...BUT you dont go out there and become like the world and allow yourself to be influenced - you are a part of this world to make a difference

But the bottom line is - we make our own choices about our lives - and if we are living like we should, those choices are easy. (Most of the time)

OK I really don't know since I don't do letterman.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Deal. My booking agent will contact you.

Do me a favor ,you have connections ,I'm not UPCI ,I want to preach the gospel on TV, could you fix it for me ?

[Hoovie]

Do me a favor ,you have connections ,I'm not UPCI ,I want to preach the gospel on TV, could you fix it for me ?

I am absolutely voteless.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I am absolutely voteless.

Well I could preach TV ,and not get in trouble.
But I couldn't be on wife swap ,and I'd proably get upset and slug somebody.
It ain't no telling who they would send me.

[Hoovie]

Well I could preach TV ,and not get in trouble.
But I couldn't be on wife swap ,and I'd proably get upset and slug somebody.
It ain't no telling who they would send me.

LOL!

Hey as a side note, The Meeks called and said they plan to go to church on Sunday. This great news! They have not been to church in a long time.

[Straightline]

WHOA!!!! I just found out who it is...

A Possible Conservative Biggie...... (as least on the forefront)...

NO WONDER HER HUSBAND DIDN"T GET UP!!!!!!!


HEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!

The word, "Conservative" just became a very broad brush.

Not "Possible".
Not "Conservative".
No "Biggie".
:nah

The shot heard 'round the world was fired in a
Straightline

[SoCaliUPC]

LOL!

Hey as a side note, The Meeks called and said they plan to go to church on Sunday. This great news! They have not been to church in a long time.

Awesome. Also considering it is Easter Sunday...:slaphappy . But seriously, that is great.

[Hegavmelif]

O.K. Got to weigh in here. I am a U.P.C. lifer. (Between my wife and I, we have a 100 years in this movement.) My understanding is that you can not renew your License as a UPC minister without signing an oath that you will obstain from t.v. So, why do you participate in the activities that t.v. televises? Paul said, "those who take pleasure in those things (sin) are just as guilty as those who do them. ...(paraphrase). Obviously t.v. is sin, otherwise, UPC wouldn't require its ministers to obstain. Frankly, after a half century in this movement, I am tired of the hypocrisy!

[Scott Hutchinson]

LOL!

Hey as a side note, The Meeks called and said they plan to go to church on Sunday. This great news! They have not been to church in a long time.

Well this is great.

[SoCaliUPC]

O.K. Got to weigh in here. I am a U.P.C. lifer. (Between my wife and I, we have a 100 years in this movement.) My understanding is that you can not renew your License as a UPC minister without signing an oath that you will obstain from t.v. So, why do you participate in the activities that t.v. televises? Paul said, "those who take pleasure in those things (sin) are just as guilty as those who do them. ...(paraphrase). Obviously t.v. is sin, otherwise, UPC wouldn't require its ministers to obstain. Frankly, after a half century in this movement, I am tired of the hypocrisy!


So TV is a SIN??? A sin???

According to the AS and the Manual...it only states a minister will not have a TV in the home. I have read no language where TV is a sin.

[Hoovie]

O.K. Got to weigh in here. I am a U.P.C. lifer. (Between my wife and I, we have a 100 years in this movement.) My understanding is that you can not renew your License as a UPC minister without signing an oath that you will obstain from t.v. So, why do you participate in the activities that t.v. televises? Paul said, "those who take pleasure in those things (sin) are just as guilty as those who do them. ...(paraphrase). Obviously t.v. is sin, otherwise, UPC wouldn't require its ministers to obstain. Frankly, after a half century in this movement, I am tired of the hypocrisy!


This is where I would differ. TV programming is not sin anymore than books are sin. For me it's not a huge temptation at all and I don't have it - can't see that the benefits outwiegh the negative influence. But sin? Nah.:nah

[Hegavmelif]

SoCaliUPC wrote....

So TV is a SIN??? A sin???

According to the AS and the Manual...it only states a minister will not have a TV in the home. I have read no language where TV is a sin.

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So is that why they have had them at their camps and in their motorhomes all these years, but I am not allowed tohave one inmy house? (Please don't tell them I have four in my HOME! (snicker)

[Hegavmelif]

I know our opinions differ and we see the light of day regarding t.v.

T.v. like anything else, can be a sin if it becomes your god and you worship it by giving it too much of your time and energies.

My critique is regarding the UPC movement and it stance on t.v. versus the attitude of their ministers.

[StillStanding]

O.K. Got to weigh in here. I am a U.P.C. lifer. (Between my wife and I, we have a 100 years in this movement.) My understanding is that you can not renew your License as a UPC minister without signing an oath that you will obstain from t.v. So, why do you participate in the activities that t.v. televises? Paul said, "those who take pleasure in those things (sin) are just as guilty as those who do them. ...(paraphrase). Obviously t.v. is sin, otherwise, UPC wouldn't require its ministers to obstain. Frankly, after a half century in this movement, I am tired of the hypocrisy!
I highlighted your assertion. Is it the invention itself, or the shows that are on it?

One could say that radio, internet, magazines, newspapers and such are sin too, because of the filth that one can find in them!

Just like the other mentioned media, I believe one can use a Godly conscience to determine what is and what isn't healthy spiritually to watch.

[MrsMcD]

TV is a sin in the same manner that the internet is a sin.

[SoCaliUPC]

I know our opinions differ and we see the light of day regarding t.v.

T.v. like anything else, can be a sin if it becomes your god and you worship it by giving it too much of your time and energies.

My critique is regarding the UPC movement and it stance on t.v. versus the attitude of their ministers.

The bolded part I 100% agree with. You can substitute anything in for TV and the statement would be true.

With your latter statement, I think people are seeing the total hypocricy in saying you can have one and not the other. Amazing how many people can have self-control on the internet and none on TV.

[SoCaliUPC]

I highlighted your assertion. Is it the invention itself, or the shows that are on it?

One could say that radio, internet, magazines, newspapers and such are sin too, because of the filth that one can find in them!

Just like the other mentioned media, I believe one can use a Godly conscience to determine what is and what isn't healthy spiritually to watch.

I heard one minister's wife say that they cancelled their newspaper subsciption because they felt the newspaper was a sin by showing advertisements of bras. Newspaper...a sin???

Pianoman..I agree with you 100%. God has given us a conscience and we can choose to view what is evil or refrain from it on TV. We can view evil on the internet or refrain from it. We can view inapprorpiate magazines and readings or refrain from it.

[Felicity]

This is where I would differ. TV programming is not sin anymore than books are sin. For me it's not a huge temptation at all and I don't have it - can't see that the benefits outwiegh the negative influence. But sin? Nah.:nahThis is how I see it too.

[rgcraig]

I highlighted your assertion. Is it the invention itself, or the shows that are on it?

One could say that radio, internet, magazines, newspapers and such are sin too, because of the filth that one can find in them!

Just like the other mentioned media, I believe one can use a Godly conscience to determine what is and what isn't healthy spiritually to watch.

Exactly!

And the closer you are to God the more in tune your conscience is!!!!

[CupCake]

I just called a freind of mine... In AK...

This is old news....

The show was a rerun...

but here's a vid clip...

vKlBYKsUins

I guess the hat was not enough, should wore a burke ....;)

[rgcraig]

I'm thinking Jim was setting there going.....oh my lord.....we are on TV - how am I going to explain this!

Letterman talked to her a long time - - - and said twice how nice she looked.......I bet he could tell something was different about her.

[SoCaliUPC]

I'm thinking Jim was setting there going.....oh my lord.....we are on TV - how am I going to explain this!

Letterman talked to her a long time - - - and said twice how nice she looked.......I bet he could tell something was different about her.

I have known Heather since she was a kid. She has always been very strikingly beautiful.

I really don't think an explaination is necessary, IMO.

[CC1]

I guess the hat was not enough, should wore a burke ....;)

is she from Chicago or Alaska? Or was in Alaska and moved since the show?

[SoCaliUPC]

is she from Chicago or Alaska? Or was in Alaska and moved since the show?

She has only lived in 3 places. Chicago is a town she has NEVER lived in.

[Felicity]

I don't see anything wrong with a UPCer or any other OA person being part of a Letterman audience. I wouldn't be interested myself. I don't think I've ever watched even one whole Letterman program.

I think some see it as a double standard. That you sign an oath saying you'll have nothing to do with TV and then participate in a TV program audience. I'm not saying that, but it's how some see it (just as an explanation for those who wonder why someone would have a problem with it).

[rgcraig]

is she from Chicago or Alaska? Or was in Alaska and moved since the show?
Alaska - did you watch the clip.

[CC1]

She has only lived in 3 places. Chicago is a town she has NEVER lived in.

Do they pastor in Alaska? If so I am very surprised because the UPC in Alaska is pretty conservative.

Now this is a good exUPC lib church in North Pole pastored by Darryl Carnley!!!!!!

[whollyHis]

She looked adorable...and she and Dave had good rapport. Her hubby looked a little 'sheepish' in my opinion. I wonder why??? He should have stood next to her- strong and proud and HANDSOME...:tiphat

[rgcraig]

She looked adorable...and she and Dave had good rapport. Her hubby looked a little 'sheepish' in my opinion. I wonder why??? He should have stood next to her- strong and proud and HANDSOME...:tiphat
I'm thinking he was wanting to dig a hole in the floor.......

[MrsMcD]

I'm thinking he was wanting to dig a hole in the floor.......

Yes, he did. He had the cutest look.

[CC1]

I'm thinking he was wanting to dig a hole in the floor.......


Or a hole!!!:happydance

[rgcraig]

Or a hole!!!:happydance

duh - - lol!

Thanks! I'll edit.

[CupCake]

I'm thinking Jim was setting there going.....oh my lord.....we are on TV - how am I going to explain this!

Letterman talked to her a long time - - - and said twice how nice she looked.......I bet he could tell something was different about her.


How funny to think there that far from home still got busted, I bet they didn’t see that coming,I guess God was dealing with them....;)


What stood out was that hat, it says"PICK ME"! LOl`

[Newman]

How funny to think there that far from home still got busted, I bet they didn’t see that coming,I guess God was dealing with them....;)


What stood out was that hat, it says"PICK ME"! LOl`

SoCal already posted that they most likely were contacted and signed waivers before the show; knowing that Letterman was going to talk to her. That being the case; it doesn't seem that they minded being busted. ;)

[CC1]

Someone already posted that they most likely were contacted and signed waivers before the show; knowing that Letterman was going to talk to her. That being the case; it doesn't seem that they minded being busted. ;)

It does not work that way. By virtue of being in the audience you agree to be recorded for television and possibly be called on by the host.

They may have had them sign some additional paperwork after the taping for details such as name, address, etc.

[CupCake]

SoCal already posted that they most likely were contacted and signed waivers before the show; knowing that Letterman was going to talk to her. That being the case; it doesn't seem that they minded being busted. ;)

Very true, but I can see how many would say "sin will find you out'! Lol...

[CC1]

My daughter has a picture with Jay Leno from when she visited the Late Show when she was 15. She did not appear on TV but he had her up on stage before the show and during commericals and was a lot of fun.

[LaGirl]

my husband and I were on Regis and Kathy Lee. they scan the audience once or twice during the show. well, the camera endud up on US!

[Thumper]

I hear some twanging sounds coming out of Bakersfield.
My dream place to visit would be Canada though.

Come on up. :)

[CC1]

Come on up. :)

I want to visit Plaster Rock but then I would have to buy my wife a bunch of hats!!!!:happydance

[Felicity]

I want to visit Plaster Rock but then I would have to buy my wife a bunch of hats!!!!:happydanceLOL! Why on earth would you want to visit Plaster Rock of all places?

[Scott Hutchinson]

Come on up. :)

I seriously want to ,my friend.

[rgcraig]

LOL! Why on earth would you want to visit Plaster Rock of all places?
Must have cheap motels!!!!

[CC1]

LOL! Why on earth would you want to visit Plaster Rock of all places?

I like the name. Actually I am sure I will be visiting near your fair city before I make it to Plaster Rock.

You probably think I am lying by now but in the next couple of years I am going to be in your area and hope to break bread with you and TB.

[Felicity]

I like the name. Actually I am sure I will be visiting near your fair city before I make it to Plaster Rock.

You probably think I am lying by now but in the next couple of years I am going to be in your area and hope to break bread with you and TB.Promises .... promises!

I was talking with a PW friend from back home the other day. She and her husband are coming to BC to visit us and we're going to take an Alaskan cruise together. Probably next year looks like! I'm so looking forward to that!! :)

[Scott Hutchinson]

You know I ought to be an US Missionary to Canada.For some reason that country is on my mind.

[Felicity]

You know I ought to be an US Missionary to Canada.For some reason that country is on my mind.LOL! I think so! ;) :)

You've heard the Macedonian ..... er I mean the Canadian call ...... "come up and help us!" Eh? :D

[CC1]

Promises .... promises!

I was talking with a PW friend from back home the other day. She and her husband are coming to BC to visit us and we're going to take an Alaskan cruise together. Probably next year looks like! I'm so looking forward to that!! :)

We were supposed to do just that this next September but buying the new home and some other expenses have pushed the Alaska cruise out a year or two.

Plus it hasn't been a year yet since our last Transatlantic crossing and we both are already really wanting to do that again. It is our favorite vacation.

Not to mention my aim to go to Australia before 2009!!!

[Scott Hutchinson]

LOL! I think so! ;) :)

You've heard the Macedonian ..... er I mean the Canadian call ...... "come up and help us!" Eh? :D

I wish I could visit ,I truly would love to.
Can I ask you a question ,how do Christian Ministers in Canada teach agains't homosexuality without going to jail? I understand they have hate crimes in Canada.

[Thumper]

I want to visit Plaster Rock but then I would have to buy my wife a bunch of hats!!!!:happydance:tiphat

[Thumper]

I seriously want to ,my friend.

Well were waitin' on ya

;)

[Thumper]

I like the name. Actually I am sure I will be visiting near your fair city before I make it to Plaster Rock.

You probably think I am lying by now but in the next couple of years I am going to be in your area and hope to break bread with you and TB.

If you do get up this way make sure that you let me know also.

[Thumper]

I wish I could visit ,I truly would love to.
Can I ask you a question ,how do Christian Ministers in Canada teach agains't homosexuality without going to jail? I understand they have hate crimes in Canada.


I'm not sure how others do it but as I understand it it is ok to talk about the sin just not the sinner

[Scott Hutchinson]

Well were waitin' on ya

;)

Maybe The Lord will work it out.

[Ronzo]

If you do get up this way make sure that you let me know also.
... so he can break out the 'liberal-hunter' gear!

:drawguns :hunter

[Scott Hutchinson]

I'm not sure how others do it but as I understand it it is ok to talk about the sin just not the sinner

Oh I see ,if my understanding is correct aren't yall on a form of socialism for your govt? But I understand it varies from the Bristish form?

[SoCaliUPC]

She looked adorable...and she and Dave had good rapport. Her hubby looked a little 'sheepish' in my opinion. I wonder why??? He should have stood next to her- strong and proud and HANDSOME...:tiphat

Once again...Heather is a very stunning young lady. However, as far as standing by her...I have never seen anyone stand by their "other" while they are doing those bits.

[Kutless]

Dollywood would be a place I would love to visit.Bro H. I just have to ask why would a christian be going to these places?

[Kutless]

Again I apologize if someone thought I am casting judgement on somebody.
I maybe didn't use the best wording.I commented before I read the entire thread. My bad.

[revrandy]

Truthfully...

I don't know that Bro. Scott isn't right... Why would a Christian go to see David Letterman?

Reading about the show.. there is usually some sort of Rock/Rap Band playing... and the use of Langauge...

Why would a Christian go? Can anybody answer this??

[rgcraig]

Truthfully...

I don't know that Bro. Scott isn't right... Why would a Christian go to see David Letterman?

Reading about the show.. there is usually some sort of Rock/Rap Band playing... and the use of Langauge...

Why would a Christian go? Can anybody answer this??

I think we can all answer, but the real question/answer would need to be directed to the ones that attended.

[South of I 90]

She looked adorable...and she and Dave had good rapport. Her hubby looked a little 'sheepish' in my opinion. I wonder why??? He should have stood next to her- strong and proud and HANDSOME...:tiphat

I don't think he looked sheepish. If you know him, that is basically his personality. Also, during these segements of the show, the spouse, partner, significant other, etc. very rarely is included in the spoof. So him not standing with her is not an issue.

BTW, when this was originally aired, they were not to ashamed of it, since they text their friends all around the country to watch it that night.

[LifeGuide]

To lump this guy in with the UC's is probably inaccurate. His father wrote one of the most reasonable article's in '92 denouncing the AS. Look it up. "The Silent Majority". These are awesome people who I wouldn't label one way or the other. They Pastor a thriving work.

[Trouvere]

handsome? was he handsome?
Oh well I was just wondering.Maybe he should have brought a sign advertising his church service times.lol.