What if Starbucks Marketed Like a Church?

[TK Burk]

Anybody ever visited here??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7_dZTrjw9I

It's kinda scary, huh? :uhoh

[Aquila]

Rofl

I love it!!!

[James Griffin]

Sent to senior pastor a few weeks ago.

We are going to show it in the next leadership meeting.

[shag]

rofl! Nothin' like Kingdom Coffee!!

[Aquila]

The Apostolic Church Inc.

Sad state of affairs. Here's what I think Church should really be like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54KrKj7wMJU

[Hoovie]

Aquila, that looks very appealing and it makes sense.

[nahkoe]

Anybody ever visited here??

It's kinda scary, huh? :uhoh

Yes, actually I have!

Terrifying actually. I wonder how differently my life would have gone if I hadn't gotten frustrated and quit looking for a church 9 years ago?

[TK Burk]

Sent to senior pastor a few weeks ago.

We are going to show it in the next leadership meeting.

I hope nobody brings their pitchfork. :winkgrin

This one ought to make everyone examine themselves.

[TK Burk]

rofl! Nothin' like Kingdom Coffee!!

Hey, if its about the Kingdom, it better not be decaf!!! :)

[TK Burk]

The Apostolic Church Inc.

Sad state of affairs. Here's what I think Church should really be like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54KrKj7wMJU

Great video. Who is the speaker?

[TK Burk]

Yes, actually I have!

Terrifying actually. I wonder how differently my life would have gone if I hadn't gotten frustrated and quit looking for a church 9 years ago?

That is sad!

When I was saved at 23, I told a man at the church that I remembered him from High School. I told him that I always knew he was a Christian. All those years I definitely was not! When we talked a few days after I was Born Again I asked him why he never invited me to church. I told him I wondered how my life might have been different if he ever had. It broke his heart. I did not mean to; I was just talking; but it really got to him.

[U376977]

Great video. Who is the speaker?

Not sure. But many statements in the video are lifted from a book I am reading now written by Frank Viola about the pagan roots of the church, i.e, buildings, order of worhip, etc., Here is a link to the site http://paganchristianity.org/ He has two books about the subject. I am reading pagan christianity.
It is completly documented and sourced and is very challenging. It explains why many of us are disgusted with "church" and "denominations." DON'T READ IT IF YOU CANT HANDLE BEING CHALLENGED.

[Aquila]

Not sure. But many statements in the video are lifted from a book I am reading now written by Frank Viola about the pagan roots of the church, i.e, buildings, order of worhip, etc., Here is a link to the site http://paganchristianity.org/ He has two books about the subject. I am reading pagan christianity.
It is completly documented and sourced and is very challenging. It explains why many of us are disgusted with "church" and "denominations." DON'T READ IT IF YOU CANT HANDLE BEING CHALLENGED.

I've read Pagan Christianity, fascinating book and definitely challenging. Another book titled Ekklesia - To the Roots of Biblical House Church Life, by Steve Atkerson. Lastly you might find this book of interest, Houses that Change the World, by Wolfgang Simson. However, he's pretty hostile toward traditional structures, so take him with a grain of salt. You can download a copy from this link,

www.agts.edu/syllabi/ce/summer2002/mhtm639oleson_sum02_np_h.pdf

[Aquila]

Why does it seem every Pastor wants a "Mega-Church" and this corporatized structure?

[CAD/JPY]

The only just cause I can see for the "nice building" is that it lends a certain credibility in the community. Its built, its not going anywhere. Kind of like the bank that you deposit your money in... it is built to show strength, character, and trust. You put your money there because you believe it will be there when you need it.

This is about the only cause I can see for the "nice building". It allows people the opportunity to find "a spiritual bank" when they need one. Hopefully our reputation will have them stop by ours first....