Islamic Prayer before Texas Senate

[Praxeas]

What do you all think?


A controversial Texas imam who at one point participated in a "tribute to the great Islamic visionary" Ayatollah Khomeini, has offered a prayer to open the state Senate that excluded both Christians and Jews.

"Oh, Allah, guide us to the straight path, the path of those whom you have favored, not of those who have earned your wrath or of those who have lost the way," prayed Imam Yusuf Kavakci of the Dallas Central Mosque.
Islam, of course, teaches that Jews and Christians both have earned the wrath of Allah by failing to follow Islam, and also have lost the way by following the teachings of the Torah for the Jews or the Bible for Christians.

Kavakci concluded "with an Islamic chant that sounded eerily like it was coming over the loudspeakers in Tehran," according to a statement from the U.S. Pastor Council. "Ironically, it was a Jewish Republican, Sen. Florence Shapiro, (available by e-mail at Florence.Shapiro@senate.state.tx.us) who invited the imam to give the prayer that specifically excluded those of her faith as well as Christians."


"Imagine if an evangelical Christian pastor prayed in Jesus name, ONLY FOR CHRISTIANS, before the government of Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc., during Ramadan," the statement said.
The imam introduced what he was going to do: "We will pray by reading from first chapter, opening chapter, Al-Fãtehah, from holy Quran, followed by recitation, traditional way of recitation of text from holy Quran, with an addition."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55049

[Ronzo]

I've got more important things to worry about...

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Next we will hear that it is illegal to tell folks they are lost without Jesus Name Acts 2:38 Baptism.

[Praxeas]

I've got more important things to worry about...
Like digging bunny's face out of the ground? :tiphat

[Ronzo]

Like digging bunny's face out of the ground? :tiphat
Yeah... that's it....

[TRIPLE E]

What do you all think?


A controversial Texas imam who at one point participated in a "tribute to the great Islamic visionary" Ayatollah Khomeini, has offered a prayer to open the state Senate that excluded both Christians and Jews.

"Oh, Allah, guide us to the straight path, the path of those whom you have favored, not of those who have earned your wrath or of those who have lost the way," prayed Imam Yusuf Kavakci of the Dallas Central Mosque.
Islam, of course, teaches that Jews and Christians both have earned the wrath of Allah by failing to follow Islam, and also have lost the way by following the teachings of the Torah for the Jews or the Bible for Christians.

Kavakci concluded "with an Islamic chant that sounded eerily like it was coming over the loudspeakers in Tehran," according to a statement from the U.S. Pastor Council. "Ironically, it was a Jewish Republican, Sen. Florence Shapiro, (available by e-mail at Florence.Shapiro@senate.state.tx.us) who invited the imam to give the prayer that specifically excluded those of her faith as well as Christians."


"Imagine if an evangelical Christian pastor prayed in Jesus name, ONLY FOR CHRISTIANS, before the government of Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc., during Ramadan," the statement said.
The imam introduced what he was going to do: "We will pray by reading from first chapter, opening chapter, Al-Fãtehah, from holy Quran, followed by recitation, traditional way of recitation of text from holy Quran, with an addition."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55049

Seems like they are really infaltrating American society!

[Chan]

What do you all think?


A controversial Texas imam who at one point participated in a "tribute to the great Islamic visionary" Ayatollah Khomeini, has offered a prayer to open the state Senate that excluded both Christians and Jews.

"Oh, Allah, guide us to the straight path, the path of those whom you have favored, not of those who have earned your wrath or of those who have lost the way," prayed Imam Yusuf Kavakci of the Dallas Central Mosque.
Islam, of course, teaches that Jews and Christians both have earned the wrath of Allah by failing to follow Islam, and also have lost the way by following the teachings of the Torah for the Jews or the Bible for Christians.

Kavakci concluded "with an Islamic chant that sounded eerily like it was coming over the loudspeakers in Tehran," according to a statement from the U.S. Pastor Council. "Ironically, it was a Jewish Republican, Sen. Florence Shapiro, (available by e-mail at Florence.Shapiro@senate.state.tx.us) who invited the imam to give the prayer that specifically excluded those of her faith as well as Christians."


"Imagine if an evangelical Christian pastor prayed in Jesus name, ONLY FOR CHRISTIANS, before the government of Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc., during Ramadan," the statement said.
The imam introduced what he was going to do: "We will pray by reading from first chapter, opening chapter, Al-Fãtehah, from holy Quran, followed by recitation, traditional way of recitation of text from holy Quran, with an addition."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55049 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55049[/quote) The hypocrisy of all this is that it's CHRISTIANS who complain when being asked not to pray in the name of Jesus. If Christians want the right to pray in the name of Jesus, why shouldn't a Muslim be allowed to pray to Allah? Of course, any kind of prayer in the venue of opening up a legislative session is really an establishment of religion and, thus, is unconstitutional. It is particularly vile and offensive to have prayer offered up in a legislative session where the vast majority of the legislators are rebels against God and have no desire to serve Him. God does not hear their prayers and these kinds of "ceremonial" prayers are nothing more than vain repetitions.

[Ferd]

i dont have a problem with a muslim offering a pray at the state senate.

I do have issues with him using the name "Allah" when Christians cannot use the name "Jeus"

I also have a problem with an Imam who has offered praise to the Ayatollah Khomeini, being the one praying.

We ought to be able to do better.

[Pressing-On]

i dont have a problem with a muslim offering a pray at the state senate.

I do have issues with him using the name "Allah" when Christians cannot use the name "Jesus"

I also have a problem with an Imam who has offered praise to the Ayatollah Khomeini, being the one praying.

We ought to be able to do better.
Amen! My thoughts exactly!

[Chan]

i dont have a problem with a muslim offering a pray at the state senate.

I do have issues with him using the name "Allah" when Christians cannot use the name "Jeus"

I also have a problem with an Imam who has offered praise to the Ayatollah Khomeini, being the one praying.

We ought to be able to do better.Maybe they should give up these meaningless, ceremonial prayers that God doesn't answer and stop thinking that God is going to somehow bless the endeavors of His enemies.

[Ferd]

Maybe they should give up these meaningless, ceremonial prayers that God doesn't answer and stop thinking that God is going to somehow bless the endeavors of His enemies.

ouch.

[Chan]

ouch.Perhaps you would like to elaborate?

[Ferd]

Perhaps you would like to elaborate?

it was a stinging comment that had at least some truth to it....

dont know that i am in agreement with you but Im not willing to say you are wrong either....

[Praxeas]

[/url] The hypocrisy of all this is that it's CHRISTIANS who complain when being asked not to pray in the name of Jesus. If Christians want the right to pray in the name of Jesus, why shouldn't a Muslim be allowed to pray to Allah? Of course, any kind of prayer in the venue of opening up a legislative session is really an establishment of religion and, thus, is unconstitutional. It is particularly vile and offensive to have prayer offered up in a legislative session where the vast majority of the legislators are rebels against God and have no desire to serve Him. God does not hear their prayers and these kinds of "ceremonial" prayers are nothing more than vain repetitions.
Oh my goodness....are you serious? You don't realize that the hypocrisy is that Christians are NOT allowed to pray in the name of Jesus....but Muslims are! Will the ACLU protest? They will if it was a Christian praying in the name of Jesus.

It's this sort of response from Christians that just floor me.

[Chan]

Oh my goodness....are you serious? You don't realize that the hypocrisy is that Christians are NOT allowed to pray in the name of Jesus....but Muslims are! Will the ACLU protest? They will if it was a Christian praying in the name of Jesus.

It's this sort of response from Christians that just floor me.I'm sure that Muslims are not allowed to pray in the name of Jesus. The point of the matter is that there is hypocrisy on both sides. Christians complain about not being allowed to pray in the name of Jesus and then complain when someone who is not a Christian is allowed to pray (as if to suggest that only Christians have the right to lead a prayer over a legislative body). The ACLU and similar groups complain when Christians pray in the name of Jesus but don't complain when Muslims pray to Allah or when Jews pray to YHVH.

Of course, any kind of prayer in the venue of opening up a legislative session is really an establishment of religion and, thus, is unconstitutional. It is particularly vile and offensive to have prayer offered up in a legislative session where the vast majority of the legislators are rebels against God and have no desire to serve Him. God does not hear their prayers and these kinds of "ceremonial" prayers are nothing more than vain repetitions.

[Praxeas]

I'm sure that Muslims are not allowed to pray in the name of Jesus.

The point of the matter is that there is hypocrisy on both sides. Christians complain about not being allowed to pray in the name of Jesus and then complain when someone who is not a Christian is allowed to pray (as if to suggest that only Christians have the right to lead a prayer over a legislative body). The ACLU and similar groups complain when Christians pray in the name of Jesus but don't complain when Muslims pray to Allah or when Jews pray to YHVH.

Of course, any kind of prayer in the venue of opening up a legislative session is really an establishment of religion and, thus, is unconstitutional. It is particularly vile and offensive to have prayer offered up in a legislative session where the vast majority of the legislators are rebels against God and have no desire to serve Him. God does not hear their prayers and these kinds of "ceremonial" prayers are nothing more than vain repetitions.
Let's recap....Muslims allowed to pray in name of Allah. Christians not allowed to pray in the name of Jesus....Christians complain and THEY are the hypocrites?

It's now hypocritical to point out inconsistencies and injustices? Now wonder the Muslim could make that prayer...Americans...especially those that say they are christians, have turned belly up and on each other instead.

Sad

[crakjak]

What do you all think?


A controversial Texas imam who at one point participated in a "tribute to the great Islamic visionary" Ayatollah Khomeini, has offered a prayer to open the state Senate that excluded both Christians and Jews.

"Oh, Allah, guide us to the straight path, the path of those whom you have favored, not of those who have earned your wrath or of those who have lost the way," prayed Imam Yusuf Kavakci of the Dallas Central Mosque.
Islam, of course, teaches that Jews and Christians both have earned the wrath of Allah by failing to follow Islam, and also have lost the way by following the teachings of the Torah for the Jews or the Bible for Christians.

Kavakci concluded "with an Islamic chant that sounded eerily like it was coming over the loudspeakers in Tehran," according to a statement from the U.S. Pastor Council. "Ironically, it was a Jewish Republican, Sen. Florence Shapiro, (available by e-mail at Florence.Shapiro@senate.state.tx.us) who invited the imam to give the prayer that specifically excluded those of her faith as well as Christians."


"Imagine if an evangelical Christian pastor prayed in Jesus name, ONLY FOR CHRISTIANS, before the government of Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc., during Ramadan," the statement said.
The imam introduced what he was going to do: "We will pray by reading from first chapter, opening chapter, Al-Fãtehah, from holy Quran, followed by recitation, traditional way of recitation of text from holy Quran, with an addition."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55049

I would not have a huge problem with an imam praying, if he would pray for blessings, direction and wisdom, in other words if it was a sincere prayer of goodwill instead of a prayer against the very people he is praying before. The fact that a Jewish senator invited this terrorist into the Texas capital shows the total delusion of many of the Jewish population.

However, since Florence is my state senator I have emailed her and told her that I am offended that this terrorist graced the capital building of my state.

[berkeley]

Let's recap....Muslims allowed to pray in name of Allah. Christians not allowed to pray in the name of Jesus....Christians complain and THEY are the hypocrites?

It's now hypocritical to point out inconsistencies and injustices? Now wonder the Muslim could make that prayer...Americans...especially those that say they are christians, have turned belly up and on each other instead.

SadGuess you missed it! You can't expect to be allowed to pray in the name of Jesus, then complain when a Moslem prays to Allah. You can't have your cake and eat it, too!! :tiphat