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Digging4Truth
02-24-2009, 01:09 PM
Eleven States Declare Sovereignty Over Obama’s Action
by A.W.R. Hawkins
02/23/2009 (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30807)


State governors -- looking down the gun barrel of long-term spending forced on them by the Obama “stimulus” plan -- are saying they will refuse to take the money. This is a Constitutional confrontation between the federal government and the states unlike any in our time.

In the first five weeks of his presidency, Barack Obama has acted so rashly that at least 11 states have decided that his brand of “hope” equates to an intolerable expansion of the federal government’s authority over the states. These states -- "Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, California...Georgia," South Carolina, and Texas -- "have all introduced bills and resolutions" reminding Obama that the 10th Amendment protects the rights of the states, which are the rights of the people, by limting the power of the federal government. These resolutions call on Obama to “cease and desist” from his reckless government expansion and also indicate that federal laws and regulations implemented in violation of the 10th Amendment can be nullified by the states.

When the Constitution was being ratified during the 1780s, the 10th Amendment was understood to be the linchpin that held the entire Bill of Rights together. The amendment states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."


The use of the 10th Amendment in conjunction with nullification garnered much attention in 1828, when the federal government passed a tariff that southerners believed affected them disproportionately. When the 1828 tariff was complemented by another in 1832, Vice President John C. Calhoun resigned the Vice Presidency to lead his home state of South Carolina in pursuit of an “ordinance of nullification,” which was no less a declaration of the sovereignty of each individual state within the union than the declarations now being made.

Calhoun was simply exercising what he recognized to be his state’s right to defend liberty within its borders by rejecting the dictates of an overbearing central government. While his efforts culminated in a tense affair referred to as the “nullification crisis,” which witnessed everything from threats of a federal invasion of South Carolina to an ongoing and near union-rending debate over national power vs. state’s rights, they also succeeded in turning back the tariffs that had been passed in spite of the Constitutional limits on federal power.

This time around, in 2009, appeals to the 10th Amendment are not based on tariffs but on unfettered government expansion in Obama’s “stimulus bill,” federal mandates on abortion that violate state laws, and infringements on the 1st and 2nd Amendments, among other things.

For example, Family Security Matters reports that Missouri’s “House Concurrent Resolution 0004 (2009) reasserts its sovereignty based on Barack Obama’s stated intention to sign into law a federal ‘Freedom of Choice Act’, [because] the federal Freedom of Choice Act would nullify any federal or state law ‘enacted, adopted, or implemented before, on, or after the date of [its] enactment’ and would effectively prevent the State of Missouri from enacting similar protective measures in the future.”

The resolution in Montana grew out of concerns over coming attacks on the 2nd Amendment, thus its preface describes it as, “An Act Exempting From Federal Regulation Under The Commerce Clause Of The Constitution Of The United States A Firearm, A Firearm Accessory, Or Ammunition Manufactured And Retained In Montana.”

New Hampshire’s resolution actually references certain federal actions that would be nullified within that state were they pushed by Obama’s administration, according to americandaily.com. Among these are “Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press, [and any] further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition.

Regardless of the specific reason behind each of the resolutions in the 11 states, all of them direct the federal government to “cease and desist” in its reckless violation of state’s rights. In this way, South Carolina’s resolution is typical of the others issued to date:

“The General Assembly of the State of South Carolina, by this resolution, claims for the State of South Carolina sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the United States Constitution…

Be it…resolved that this resolution serves as notice and demand to the federal government, as South Carolina's agent, to cease and desist immediately all mandates…beyond the scope of the federal government's constitutionally delegated powers.”

What these state assemblies and congresses have hit upon here is key to our entire conservative interpretation of the Constitution, for these states understand that the Constitution limits the federal government, not the people. Or to put it another way, it guarantees the freedom of the people by limiting the government.

Every conservative should relish the call for the federal government to “cease and desist all mandates that are beyond the scope of [its] constitutionally delegated powers.” In this way, we honor the Constitution that enumerates a number of our liberties yet also guarantees us other liberties that are neither enumerated nor denied in the document.

Liberals don’t respect the Constitution, and liberals in Congress don’t hesitate to propose legislation that would clearly violate it. The current push to give Washington, D.C. a voting representative in the House of Representatives is a good example; even liberal Prof. Jonathan Turley told a Congressional hearing that this bill is patently unconstitutional. But they press on with it.

Our Constitutional system of checks and balances is always thought of as enabling two of the three branches of the federal government to keep the third within its constitutional bounds. But there is a fourth check, the states, which also have a Constitutional function. It is to them this burden now falls. The states can choose between allowing the federal government to impose untenable conditions on them if they accept the stimulus money, or to reject it.

These eleven states have the right to reject the stimulus plan. And they must.

There is no other option. For this federal expansion will not stop unless we stand in its way with courage in our hearts and the Constitution in our hands.

Cindy
02-24-2009, 01:12 PM
Eleven States Declare Sovereignty Over Obama’s Action
by A.W.R. Hawkins
02/23/2009 (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30807)


State governors -- looking down the gun barrel of long-term spending forced on them by the Obama “stimulus” plan -- are saying they will refuse to take the money. This is a Constitutional confrontation between the federal government and the states unlike any in our time.

In the first five weeks of his presidency, Barack Obama has acted so rashly that at least 11 states have decided that his brand of “hope” equates to an intolerable expansion of the federal government’s authority over the states. These states -- "Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, California...Georgia," South Carolina, and Texas -- "have all introduced bills and resolutions" reminding Obama that the 10th Amendment protects the rights of the states, which are the rights of the people, by limting the power of the federal government. These resolutions call on Obama to “cease and desist” from his reckless government expansion and also indicate that federal laws and regulations implemented in violation of the 10th Amendment can be nullified by the states.

When the Constitution was being ratified during the 1780s, the 10th Amendment was understood to be the linchpin that held the entire Bill of Rights together. The amendment states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."


The use of the 10th Amendment in conjunction with nullification garnered much attention in 1828, when the federal government passed a tariff that southerners believed affected them disproportionately. When the 1828 tariff was complemented by another in 1832, Vice President John C. Calhoun resigned the Vice Presidency to lead his home state of South Carolina in pursuit of an “ordinance of nullification,” which was no less a declaration of the sovereignty of each individual state within the union than the declarations now being made.

Calhoun was simply exercising what he recognized to be his state’s right to defend liberty within its borders by rejecting the dictates of an overbearing central government. While his efforts culminated in a tense affair referred to as the “nullification crisis,” which witnessed everything from threats of a federal invasion of South Carolina to an ongoing and near union-rending debate over national power vs. state’s rights, they also succeeded in turning back the tariffs that had been passed in spite of the Constitutional limits on federal power.

This time around, in 2009, appeals to the 10th Amendment are not based on tariffs but on unfettered government expansion in Obama’s “stimulus bill,” federal mandates on abortion that violate state laws, and infringements on the 1st and 2nd Amendments, among other things.

For example, Family Security Matters reports that Missouri’s “House Concurrent Resolution 0004 (2009) reasserts its sovereignty based on Barack Obama’s stated intention to sign into law a federal ‘Freedom of Choice Act’, [because] the federal Freedom of Choice Act would nullify any federal or state law ‘enacted, adopted, or implemented before, on, or after the date of [its] enactment’ and would effectively prevent the State of Missouri from enacting similar protective measures in the future.”

The resolution in Montana grew out of concerns over coming attacks on the 2nd Amendment, thus its preface describes it as, “An Act Exempting From Federal Regulation Under The Commerce Clause Of The Constitution Of The United States A Firearm, A Firearm Accessory, Or Ammunition Manufactured And Retained In Montana.”

New Hampshire’s resolution actually references certain federal actions that would be nullified within that state were they pushed by Obama’s administration, according to americandaily.com. Among these are “Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press, [and any] further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition.

Regardless of the specific reason behind each of the resolutions in the 11 states, all of them direct the federal government to “cease and desist” in its reckless violation of state’s rights. In this way, South Carolina’s resolution is typical of the others issued to date:

“The General Assembly of the State of South Carolina, by this resolution, claims for the State of South Carolina sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the United States Constitution…

Be it…resolved that this resolution serves as notice and demand to the federal government, as South Carolina's agent, to cease and desist immediately all mandates…beyond the scope of the federal government's constitutionally delegated powers.”

What these state assemblies and congresses have hit upon here is key to our entire conservative interpretation of the Constitution, for these states understand that the Constitution limits the federal government, not the people. Or to put it another way, it guarantees the freedom of the people by limiting the government.

Every conservative should relish the call for the federal government to “cease and desist all mandates that are beyond the scope of [its] constitutionally delegated powers.” In this way, we honor the Constitution that enumerates a number of our liberties yet also guarantees us other liberties that are neither enumerated nor denied in the document.

Liberals don’t respect the Constitution, and liberals in Congress don’t hesitate to propose legislation that would clearly violate it. The current push to give Washington, D.C. a voting representative in the House of Representatives is a good example; even liberal Prof. Jonathan Turley told a Congressional hearing that this bill is patently unconstitutional. But they press on with it.

Our Constitutional system of checks and balances is always thought of as enabling two of the three branches of the federal government to keep the third within its constitutional bounds. But there is a fourth check, the states, which also have a Constitutional function. It is to them this burden now falls. The states can choose between allowing the federal government to impose untenable conditions on them if they accept the stimulus money, or to reject it.

These eleven states have the right to reject the stimulus plan. And they must.

There is no other option. For this federal expansion will not stop unless we stand in its way with courage in our hearts and the Constitution in our hands.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Pressing-On
02-24-2009, 02:05 PM
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Ditto that development and will be following it!!! :thumbsup

Sam
02-24-2009, 02:24 PM
Come on, people.
The 10th amendment is dead.
It died under the military dictatorship of Abraham Lincoln.
And it was kicked while dead by FDR, Lyndon Johnson, and others.

We are quickly heading toward a one-party, monolithic, socialist state.

TJJJ
02-24-2009, 02:35 PM
Come on, people.
The 10th amendment is dead.
It died under the military dictatorship of Abraham Lincoln.
And it was kicked while dead by FDR, Lyndon Johnson, and others.

We are quickly heading toward a one-party, monolithic, socialist state.


COM'ON REDNECKS, GRAB YOUR GUNS!!

A revolution is on it's way!


Viva La Revolucion'

:pirate

Digging4Truth
02-24-2009, 02:39 PM
Come on, people.
The 10th amendment is dead.
It died under the military dictatorship of Abraham Lincoln.
And it was kicked while dead by FDR, Lyndon Johnson, and others.

We are quickly heading toward a one-party, monolithic, socialist state.

Agreed...

But... can it be revived?

We definitely have more activism in that direction than we have had in my lifetime.

Digging4Truth
02-24-2009, 02:40 PM
COM'ON REDNECKS, GRAB YOUR GUNS!!

A revolution is on it's way!


Viva La Revolucion'

:pirate

Rednecks?

TJJJ
02-24-2009, 02:43 PM
Rednecks?

Oh don't be offended now! I meant all those people south of the Mason Dixon line! All those people down there buying the AK's!

All those west of the Missouri! Sales of automatic weapons has skyrocketed!

Rednecks are everywhere!

Digging4Truth
02-24-2009, 03:02 PM
Oh don't be offended now! I meant all those people south of the Mason Dixon line! All those people down there buying the AK's!

All those west of the Missouri! Sales of automatic weapons has skyrocketed!

Rednecks are everywhere!

Oh... no offense... I am one of those.

A redneck.
A rebel.
A child of the south.

I was just wondering where you stood.

TJJJ
02-24-2009, 03:10 PM
Oh... no offense... I am one of those.

A redneck.
A rebel.
A child of the south.

I was just wondering where you stood.

Seriously, I am just watching. We have never been in this place with our generation.

Some other places in the world think we will be having civil war shortly. They look at this different than we do.

This is interesting times, we shall see!

Lord Bless

Digging4Truth
02-24-2009, 03:27 PM
Seriously, I am just watching. We have never been in this place with our generation.

Some other places in the world think we will be having civil war shortly. They look at this different than we do.

This is interesting times, we shall see!

Lord Bless

It's just about time for one...

It is time for the federal government to start reading and obeying the constitution.

Pressing-On
02-24-2009, 03:28 PM
Seriously, I am just watching. We have never been in this place with our generation.

Some other places in the world think we will be having civil war shortly. They look at this different than we do.

This is interesting times, we shall see!

Lord Bless

I read an article by a syndicated columnist around 1990 that was saying they see it brewing in this country.

This link on Foxnews is interviewing a guy that says 25 states have signed on to some sort of bill, he said it was not secession, but telling the government that they have been interfering in state's rights long enough.

I don't know if the clip will link or not, but I'll post it.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3721087&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,6658,00.html#9_55

I'm not for secession, because I don't see how it will or can work, but I am for state's rights and for standing up for them collectively! You have to scroll down, on the right under "Up next", and find the title "Live Free or Leave".

EA
02-24-2009, 03:41 PM
Have you guys read the recent comments of George Soros and Rupert Murdoch?

Digging4Truth
02-24-2009, 03:44 PM
Have you guys read the recent comments of George Soros and Rupert Murdoch?

No...

Do share...

RevDWW
02-24-2009, 03:49 PM
Have you guys read the recent comments of George Soros and Rupert Murdoch?

Who cares what they have to say, Bernanke says the recession may end by the end of this year.....prosperity is just around the corner........:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

EA
02-24-2009, 03:53 PM
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Renowned investor George Soros said on Friday the world financial system has effectively disintegrated, adding that there is yet no prospect of a near-term resolution to the crisis.

Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.

He said the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers in September marked a turning point in the functioning of the market system.

"We witnessed the collapse of the financial system," Soros said at a Columbia University dinner. "It was placed on life support, and it's still on life support. There's no sign that we are anywhere near a bottom."

His comments echoed those made earlier at the same conference by Paul Volcker, a former Federal Reserve chairman who is now a top adviser to President Barack Obama.

......

"I don't remember any time, maybe even in the Great Depression, when things went down quite so fast, quite so uniformly around the world," Volcker said.

RevDWW
02-24-2009, 03:56 PM
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Renowned investor George Soros said on Friday the world financial system has effectively disintegrated, adding that there is yet no prospect of a near-term resolution to the crisis.

Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.

He said the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers in September marked a turning point in the functioning of the market system.

"We witnessed the collapse of the financial system," Soros said at a Columbia University dinner. "It was placed on life support, and it's still on life support. There's no sign that we are anywhere near a bottom."

His comments echoed those made earlier at the same conference by Paul Volcker, a former Federal Reserve chairman who is now a top adviser to President Barack Obama.

......

"I don't remember any time, maybe even in the Great Depression, when things went down quite so fast, quite so uniformly around the world," Volcker said.

They dream of the "New World Order" and it can not come about with the United States functioning under it's current Constitution!

Digging4Truth
02-24-2009, 03:57 PM
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Renowned investor George Soros said on Friday the world financial system has effectively disintegrated, adding that there is yet no prospect of a near-term resolution to the crisis.

Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.

He said the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers in September marked a turning point in the functioning of the market system.

"We witnessed the collapse of the financial system," Soros said at a Columbia University dinner. "It was placed on life support, and it's still on life support. There's no sign that we are anywhere near a bottom."

His comments echoed those made earlier at the same conference by Paul Volcker, a former Federal Reserve chairman who is now a top adviser to President Barack Obama.

......

"I don't remember any time, maybe even in the Great Depression, when things went down quite so fast, quite so uniformly around the world," Volcker said.

True Dat....

I wonder what the people on the video below have to say for themselves concerning their continual laughing down of Peter Schiff in 2006 & 2007?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

EA
02-24-2009, 04:08 PM
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashrm.htm


MURDOCH WARNS: NATIONS WILL BE REDEFINED, FUTURES ALTERED
Tue Feb 24 2009 08:36:39 ET

Media baron Rupert Murdoch issued an urgent internal communication late Monday, warning his staff: "We are in the midst of a phase of history in which nations will be redefined and their futures fundamentally altered."

MORE

The dramatic call comes as markets continue their plunge and the future of the media becomes increasingly muddled.

"Many people will be under extreme pressure and many companies mortally wounded," Murdoch declares.

"Our competitors will be sorely tempted to take the easy beat, to reduce quality in the search for immediate dividends."

He continued: "Let me be very clear about our company: where others might step back from their commitment to their viewers, their users, readers and customers – we will renew ours.

"The direction of the business now and over the next few years will define the character of our company for decades."

Digging4Truth
02-24-2009, 04:14 PM
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashrm.htm


MURDOCH WARNS: NATIONS WILL BE REDEFINED, FUTURES ALTERED
Tue Feb 24 2009 08:36:39 ET

Media baron Rupert Murdoch issued an urgent internal communication late Monday, warning his staff: "We are in the midst of a phase of history in which nations will be redefined and their futures fundamentally altered."

Yep... and not by shear coincidence either.

Bowas
02-25-2009, 08:27 PM
Unfortunately when the colonists were tired of the tyranny at the begining of these united states, much of the leadership and encouragement came from the pulpits, whereas today, our pulpits have a message of defeatism and inevitability of which I strongly disagree. Our nations woes most certainly can be corrected and in fact reversed, but first we must stop believing the lies of defeat. All endtime views that have the downfall of these United States is false and actually from the enemey of the gospel of Jesus Christ. It is about time the states (read the people) regain the soverignty that belongs to us.
If ever there was a time to pray for our country, now is that time, otherwise it most likley be many years if not generations before a nation of Godly people will arise to declare freedoms again, and with much more bloodshed than would perhaps may be needed if done now. Actually, if done now or at least very soon, it could possibly done wiithout any blood shed
I know, sounds scarey, but liberty and freedoms do come with a price...nothing is free, not even freedom.

jaxfam6
02-25-2009, 10:03 PM
Who cares what they have to say, Bernanke says the recession may end by the end of this year.....prosperity is just around the corner........:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

Some great big article on Yahoo about how his saying that caused the Dow to gain points and then today it dropped more than it had gained. Yeah shows me how much people REALLY believe him and BO's 'stinky' speach last night.

Digging4Truth
02-26-2009, 06:49 AM
Unfortunately when the colonists were tired of the tyranny at the begining of these united states, much of the leadership and encouragement came from the pulpits, whereas today, our pulpits have a message of defeatism and inevitability of which I strongly disagree. Our nations woes most certainly can be corrected and in fact reversed, but first we must stop believing the lies of defeat. All endtime views that have the downfall of these United States is false and actually from the enemey of the gospel of Jesus Christ. It is about time the states (read the people) regain the soverignty that belongs to us.
If ever there was a time to pray for our country, now is that time, otherwise it most likley be many years if not generations before a nation of Godly people will arise to declare freedoms again, and with much more bloodshed than would perhaps may be needed if done now. Actually, if done now or at least very soon, it could possibly done wiithout any blood shed
I know, sounds scarey, but liberty and freedoms do come with a price...nothing is free, not even freedom.

Yes sir... so true...

Between these "well brother... it's just the endtimes... God said this would happen" eschatological view and the control that 501c3 has over the pulpit a big enemy of tyranny is kept nicely in check.