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Jack Shephard
04-17-2009, 10:19 AM
Does anyone believe in their 'gift'? Do you believe they all get the info from an evil way? Just curious on everyones thoughts.
KWSS1976
04-17-2009, 10:23 AM
All they do is get you to answer your own questions without you knowing you are doing it and then reword what you just said.. Saw a documentry on this biggest con artist ever..LOL even the psychics know it is not real..
Timmy
04-17-2009, 10:25 AM
All they do is get you to answer your own questions without you knowing you are doing it and then reword what you just said.. Saw a documentry on this biggest con artist ever..LOL even the psychics know it is not real..
I knew you were going to say that.
:ursofunny
RandyWayne
04-17-2009, 10:26 AM
I believe that people can be "sensitive" and occasionally God will give someone true information in the form of a prophecy or "word of knowledge" (however RARE that is) but I do NOT believe in psychic ability as it is portrayed by the swarms of kooks out there who are willing to read your palm or tell your fortune.
Even those who are constantly claiming a word of knowledge from God are (in the vast majority of cases) personally deceived or flat out trying to put one over on the "overly trusting" who dare not question the Man of God.
Jack Shephard
04-17-2009, 10:47 AM
I was very critical of these people. However, I listened to one this A.M. and he said DO NOT feed me info. The people he was reading for have a radio show and he had never met the people and he was dead on with a lot of things. Even described the exact place where on the parents of a person on the show died. The psychic lives in another state and never met the radio guys. Pretty interesting really. Not sure whether I now believe in them. But I do believe that not all of them get the info from an evil source. This guy gave glory to God for the 'gift'.
KWSS1976
04-17-2009, 10:53 AM
Yea I am a kind of have to see it to believe it type person lots of thing can go on behind the scenes in radio and tv....
Jack Shephard
04-17-2009, 10:58 AM
Sure, but does it ALWAYS pay to be a cynic? If God is ALL powerful it is that unbelievable that He would allow this stuff to happen? Again I am not saying I would got to one or anything but don't think that all of them are 'kooks'.
RandyWayne
04-17-2009, 11:00 AM
I was very critical of these people. However, I listened to one this A.M. and he said DO NOT feed me info. The people he was reading for have a radio show and he had never met the people and he was dead on with a lot of things. Even described the exact place where on the parents of a person on the show died. The psychic lives in another state and never met the radio guys. Pretty interesting really. Not sure whether I now believe in them. But I do believe that not all of them get the info from an evil source. This guy gave glory to God for the 'gift'.
Sometimes the most obvious answer to something like this is SO obvious that we, as thinking adults, go "there has to be another explanation".
What is the "secret"? The callers were planted and/or had the radio screener feed the info to the guest psychic ahead of time.
RandyWayne
04-17-2009, 11:19 AM
Has anyone seen the movie The Prestige (staring Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale)? They were both magicians and Bales character did an illusion called the Transported Man where he instantly "transported" 20-30 feet from one box to another. Most of the movie follows Jackmans fascination and obsession with the trick and its secret. Of course he told other characters that it could not be as simple as a "double" for this and that reason, so he ruined his life over it. At the very end, guess how it was done? A double. (Bales character had a twin.)
Timmy
04-17-2009, 11:23 AM
has anyone seen the movie the prestige (staring hugh jackman and christian bale)? They were both magicians and bales character did an illusion called the transported man where he instantly "transported" 20-30 feet from one box to another. Most of the movie follows jackmans fascination and obsession with the trick and its secret. Of course he told other characters that it could not be as simple as a "double" for this and that reason, so he ruined his life over it. At the very end, guess how it was done? A double. (bales character had a twin.)
Aaaaaaggghh! Spoiler!!!!!
Yes, I saw it!
RandyWayne
04-17-2009, 11:27 AM
Aaaaaaggghh! Spoiler!!!!!
Yes, I saw it!
Naw, THAT wasn't the spoiler. :) Although it was pretty obvious by two thirds of the way through.
The point is that tricksters still use very basic methods such as stooges in the audience. But we're just too sophisticated now to believe that things are still that basic.
Timmy
04-17-2009, 11:45 AM
Naw, THAT wasn't the spoiler. :) Although it was pretty obvious by two thirds of the way through.
The point is that tricksters still use very basic methods such as stooges in the audience. But we're just too sophisticated now to believe that things are still that basic.
Well, it was a spoiler! :lol
Jack Shephard
04-17-2009, 11:50 AM
Has anyone seen the movie The Prestige (staring Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale)? They were both magicians and Bales character did an illusion called the Transported Man where he instantly "transported" 20-30 feet from one box to another. Most of the movie follows Jackmans fascination and obsession with the trick and its secret. Of course he told other characters that it could not be as simple as a "double" for this and that reason, so he ruined his life over it. At the very end, guess how it was done? A double. (Bales character had a twin.)
Good movie! I think that to say that all them are kooks is not fair because one can assume info was fed to them, but there is no way of knowing. I am sure there are many that are fed info, but I am sure there are some that aren't cause they have a real 'gift'. I think that doubting something is ok, but when you believe in a uncomprehendable God that can do anything is it too far fetched to believe in these types of things? What about aliens-not the ones from Mexico either? Anything is possible...God has things go on all the time and because our eyes don't see it or something that we have been programed with like doubt can keep still come out at times. Example: I don't have a problem with women cutting hair and wear jewelry and such-none at all. But when I see someone that does it and used to not be that way it shocks me and like my old self wants to judge them for it, but I don't-but it is a weird feeling.
Jack Shephard
04-17-2009, 11:52 AM
Naw, THAT wasn't the spoiler. :) Although it was pretty obvious by two thirds of the way through.
The point is that tricksters still use very basic methods such as stooges in the audience. But we're just too sophisticated now to believe that things are still that basic.
True, but Hugh Jackman's character didn't have an 'illusion' it was that he was really moving to another place cause of the whole 'behind the scenes' thing (spoiler not added on purpose). But the point I am trying to make is that I believe it possible, but not sure that I would support going to them. But I think that not ALL of them are kookies.
Praxeas
04-17-2009, 12:01 PM
Does anyone believe in their 'gift'? Do you believe they all get the info from an evil way? Just curious on everyones thoughts.
Most are fakes. They use leading questions to guess answers.
RandyWayne
04-17-2009, 12:15 PM
True, but Hugh Jackman's character didn't have an 'illusion' it was that he was really moving to another place cause of the whole 'behind the scenes' thing (spoiler not added on purpose). But the point I am trying to make is that I believe it possible, but not sure that I would support going to them. But I think that not ALL of them are kookies.
I don't believe they are all kooks either -just most. When determining if a word of knowledge is legit I ask a few simple questions: Are the details specific, accurate, and NOT something that would be easily knowable through other sources?
On that last point, I do not believe God would give a minister who traveled to Minn, MN right after the bridge collapsed, the "knowledge" that a "great tragedy just took place here!", to which all the members would be expected to swoon over the mans close connection with God. It was common knowledge in EVERY paper on EVERY news channel and on EVERY radio station.
Jack Shephard
04-17-2009, 12:21 PM
RW,perhaps you are right, but again one never knows. All I am really trying to say is that I think it is possible. I don't think that we are disagreeing really.
Jack Shephard
04-17-2009, 12:21 PM
Most are fakes. They use leading questions to guess answers.
Yeah you are right....I have noticed this with prophetic ministries too-which is horrible
RandyWayne
04-17-2009, 12:27 PM
Yeah you are right....I have noticed this with prophetic ministries too-which is horrible
I remember a year or two ago when Steadfast started a thread as a testimony about a visiting evangelist. Apparently this guy was/is well known in UPC circles and does a lot of "word of knowledge" stuff. He singled out a family that had just been killed in the church a week or two back -which takes me back to the example of a guy saying that a "great tragedy just took place!" a week after the Minn bridge collapse. As an evangelist it would have been hard to NOT hear about such a tragic event happening at a church your about to visit!
I was the only one who dared question this guys motives (to which I was rapidly banned for a few days). In fact, Phil Jones said he wanted to take me out to the woodshed. (I should have said, but your not my type! -but I didn't.)
Timmy
04-17-2009, 12:39 PM
I remember a year or two ago when Steadfast started a thread as a testimony about a visiting evangelist. Apparently this guy was/is well known in UPC circles and does a lot of "word of knowledge" stuff. He singled out a family that had just been killed in the church a week or two back -which takes me back to the example of a guy saying that a "great tragedy just took place!" a week after the Minn bridge collapse. As an evangelist it would have been hard to NOT hear about such a tragic event happening at a church your about to visit!
I was the only one who dared question this guys motives (to which I was rapidly banned for a few days). In fact, Phil Jones said he wanted to take me out to the woodshed. (I should have said, but your not my type! -but I didn't.)
:spit
Actually, I almost choked on a jelly bean, but there's no smilie for that!
:ursofunny
KWSS1976
04-17-2009, 12:43 PM
Love me some jelly beans specially the jelly belly brand
Timmy
04-17-2009, 01:06 PM
Love me some jelly beans specially the jelly belly brand
Careful. They're dangerous (while reading AFF)! :lol
Timmy
04-17-2009, 02:47 PM
But to answer the original question, does anyone believe in psychics? Yes. A lot of people do! And ghosts, and vampires, too! ;)
Cindy
04-17-2009, 03:44 PM
No!
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