Pentecostal Publishing House Rumor

[StillStanding]

I heard a rumor that PPH has shut down in the last week! They are now outsourcing all of their printed materials.

Does anyone know if this is true or not?

[Hoovie]

St Mark would know... :)

[Esther]

I heard a rumor that PPH has shut down in the last week! They are now outsourcing all of their printed materials.

Does anyone know if this is true or not?

Interesting. No I have not heard that.

[Scott Hutchinson]

When one orders PPH materials it comes from a place in TN.
I don't have a invoice with me to tell you the name of the place,but they deliver quicker than the old publishing house.

[Scott Hutchinson]

The literature is coming out of Antioch,TN.
http://sales.pentecostalpublishing.com/default.asp?guid=692AA478CF9E2DF0E044080020B266CA

[StillStanding]

The rumor is that PPH is no longer a printing facility. They are now out sourcing to another printer.

The PPH bookstore and sales is still operational.

[Sister Alvear]

maybe the WPF is taking over...

[Ron]

The rumor is that PPH is no longer a printing facility. They are now out sourcing to another printer.

The PPH bookstore and sales is still operational.

I believe it is no longer a rumour.

[Parkbench]

Do they still own the motel next door? Was it the Mary Kay Motel?

[rgcraig]

NOT TRUE!

They print all the Word Aflame Literature in house.

(confirmed)

[Ron]

NOT TRUE!

They print all the Word Aflame Literature in house.

(confirmed)

Then they have outsourced the distribution end!

[rgcraig]

Then they have outsourced the distribution end!

I think it's been that way for a while now.

[Praxeas]

They probably just have a warehouse somewhere else to hold all the materials, but why print them in a different location and then ship them somewhere else only to be shipped again to customers?

[LUKE2447]

They probably just have a warehouse somewhere else to hold all the materials, but why print them in a different location and then ship them somewhere else only to be shipped again to customers?

Prax we are talking a religious organization.... how often do any of them make sense with what they do.

[edjen01]

Prax we are talking a religious organization.... how often do any of them make sense with what they do.

:ursofunny

[Baron1710]

Focus on the family recently cut breakaway and several other of their publications. Print media is dying. Why would I spend time flipping through Plugged In when I can go online and pull just the information that I want? The Washington Post and Times print special editions for metro riders to read, for free.

[Praxeas]

We are talking about books...books that are already published. While I would like to see ALL PPH materials be put in an E-book form, I just don't think that is gonna happen. Or for that matter downloadable CDs and DVDs

[bethola]

I do know that the Sunday School Materials have been outsourced and we get them from Tennessee as previously stated.

[TJJJ]

maybe the WPF is taking over...

SISTER A, YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!! WPF has taken over World Evangelism Center!
:ursofunny

In Fact, now I think I heard this from a reliable source, (almost) but I heard Ken Haney is interested in joining the WWPF!!! He's wanting to head up all his old UPCI men again!!

[Norman]

What is WPF?

[Sinatra]

What is WPF?


Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship?

[PraiseHymn]

I heard a rumor that PPH has shut down in the last week! They are now outsourcing all of their printed materials.

Does anyone know if this is true or not?

HOPE THIS HELPS.

February 1, 2009 (St. Louis, MO)

Pentecostal Publishing House (PPH) , the 45-year-old publishing arm of The United Pentecostal Church International (UPCI) announced today that they have entered into a long-term distribution/fulfillment arrangement with Nashville, Tennessee based CNI Distribution. CNI Distribution, a division of Christian Network International, is one of the world’s largest independent distributors of Christian products. In addition to providing PPH with 24 hour shipping on all in-stock products, CNI will also co-ordinate the product flow to over 125 Special
Conferences sponsored each year by Pentecostal Publishing House throughout North America. CNI will be providing the technologies for downloading and processing of the denomination’s 120Affiliate Book Store Web Sites as well as the JIT (Just In Time) inventory control product levels from other major publishers’ products carried by PPH.

Quoting from a statement released to their world wide affiliated churches and bookstores, “The Pentecostal Publishing House recently entered into a long-term partnership with CNI Distribution. In doing so, the ‘state-ofthe-art’ distribution and order fulfillment processes of CNI will now allow Pentecostal Publishing House a greatly enhanced ability to serve its customer base. Special thanks to CNI President Ed Clydesdale for the opportunity to
offer Pentecostal Publishing House resources by means of this exceptional market-driven initiative. “Ed Clydesdale, CNI President responded to the announcement by saying, “we are both honored and humbled to have been selected by The United Pentecostal Church International and their distinguished publishing arm, the Pentecostal Publishing House to be the new distribution home for their ministry products.

To be asked to be the conduit through which PPH ships and invoices their products to thousands of churches, retailers and individuals around the world is a responsibility that CNI takes very seriously. I believe CNI is uniquely positioned with staff and technologies to provide the very best solution for the distribution needs to ministries such as the Pentecostal Publishing House and The United Pentecostal Church International. This type of partnership is truly where our heart is.”

CNI began shipping Spring Literature and curriculum for PPH on February 2 and that will be followed closely by the entire catalog of approximately 5000 SKUs.

For more information pertaining to Pentecostal Publishing House, please contact:
Mark Christian
Marketing Department Director / Division of Publications
United Pentecostal Church International
Office Phone – 314-837-7304
E –Mail: mchristian@upci.org
www.pentecostalpublishing.com
www.pentecostalbookstore.com/bookstore
About CNI
CNI Distribution, a division of Christian Network International, is one of the largest independent
Faith-based product fulfillment and distribution companies in the world. Featuring award-winning service and state-of-the-art computer networking systems, CNI represents dozens of Inspirational Book Publishers, Ministries, and various Music, Film and Gift Production Companies from around the USA to the retail, church, and consumer direct markets. For more information go to http://www.cnidist.com or call 615-641-5550.

[edjen01]

ahhh man....i just heard my dues go up....good grief.

[Sam]

ahhh man....i just heard my dues go up....good grief.

Yeah, but it's worth it

[DividedThigh]

wow and to think i was skeerd there wouldnt be any more ss literature, whew, dt

[RevOpinion]

You were so right, Brother Yohe, it's scary. We would have avoided deficits in the millions.

Breaking The PPH Monopoly
By Jim H. Yohe
November, 2003

Without a doubt the Pentecostal Publishing House (hereafter referred to as PPH) needs competition. Their absolute monopoly over providing Oneness/Apostolic materials to Oneness Pentecostal churches and organizations has driven up prices, reduced creativity, and made stale literature their hallmark. PPH Sunday School writers are simply frozen in time! Have you ever thought that maybe PPH’s high school and college-age Sunday School literature could have been written in the ‘50’s? It probably was! David C. Cook Publishing Co. is making big bucks in Apostolic churches that want to actually reach this generation. PPH just slaps a glossy new cover on it and recycles it. If PPH was in the newspaper business, they would reprint the same daily edition--every day--for fifty years! Without changing a single line!

PPH’s literature is as relevant to today’s generation of maturing young adults as putting a new crank on the front of your automobile to start it up! (Thank God they don’t run the WEC vehicle pool!) I do want to state that this isn’t an “attack” piece on the people that work for PPH. It’s intended to constructively criticize the retro-paradigm PPH’s fat-cat bosses force them to follow. (Kenneth Haney is the new PPH president. I’m letting him off the hook--for now--because he has 24-years of Good-Old-Boy cobwebs to clean out of WEC. He can’t breathe life into every division all at once. It’ll take time.) Though I realize that Y-O-H-E may become a four-letter word at PPH; the really forbidden word currently is R-E-T-I-R-E-M-E-N-T. Many of PPH’s leadership need to retire--along with their out-dated ideas, heavy-handed editing and stale materials. (A mandatory retirement age for hired or appointed employees would be nice.)

Before I continue any further, I do need to remind you that this is written strictly from my own perspective. I am not in the loop. The year I spent with J. T. Pugh (1976) in Odessa, Texas, he taught me about being a Grade One thinker. He said, “Bro. Jim, a Grade Three thinker is someone who recognizes there is a problem. A Grade Two thinker not only realizes there is a problem but can deeply analyze it and express it. But what the Apostolic Movement needs is Grade One thinkers who recognize a problem, analyze it, and offer a solution.” That is my motive in writing this piece. I may be wrong. PPH may totally disregard my efforts (they probably will) but they will at least be aware that this perception of PPH is out in the market place.


How PPH Should Change

PPH should become ministry-oriented as opposed to profit oriented
Breaking even should be the goal; not raping the Apostolic Movement for every dollar they can wrest out of them. We should keep Apostolic money working in the actual field of labor.

Free downloading
As much material that can be made available for free downloading to individuals and churches should be developed. That would save shipping & handling expenses and make a greater variety of products available to small or home missions churches who have limited budgets. The average UPCI church is somewhere around 90-100 in attendance with limited finances for literature.

Specialize in doctrinal literature
Since there is a plethora of basic Christian literature available dealing with the Bible subjects that all Christian faiths agree on--why does PPH have to duplicate other denominational publishing houses efforts? Can PPH writers tell the story of Noah and the Ark any better than Gospel Light or any other literature resource? I think not. In fact, being on the field as an evangelist for over seventeen years, I see a lot of other literature in Apostolic churches anyway. In my view, PPH/Word Aflame should concentrate on printing literature that expound on our doctrinal/holiness differences and then become a major distributor of the four-color, glossy basic Bible story Sunday School literature printed by other church groups. Representing 9,000 stateside and 28,000 foreign churches, PPH’s collective buying power would give them great clout in providing the upscale material to Apostolic churches who want it (and can afford it) at a better price than they could buy it for themselves. PPH should develop a type of Literature Outlet Buying Club for Apostolic Churches. The PPH could advise--and suggest lesson plans--on how to incorporate the PPH doctrinal lessons and supplements with the outsourced material on the local church level.

Outsource as much printing as possible
PPH has a death-grip on WEC printing. It’s detailed in the Annual Report as Inter-Divisional Printing. In fact, in the Annual Report (which can’t seem to ever have consecutive page numbers---PPH printing!) Marvin Curry boasts, “Our printing department had a record year (2003) with income from Interdivisional printing of almost 1.5 million dollars.“ Don’t be fooled! It’s the fruits of armed robbery! Divisional heads can’t solicit quotes for a better deal. PPH isn’t forced to be competitive. All the divisions have to get everything printed by PPH. Consequently PPH isn’t penalized for not meeting deadlines or schedules. That’s why for years your Pentecostal Herald would show up a month late. Or The Forward would show up anytime they felt like printing it. PPH has no incentive to do a good job or a timely job. All the WEC business is guaranteed to be theirs! In my view, all divisions should be mandated to give all print jobs to the most competitive bid. Divisions should be allowed to outsource all materials--saving money for other missions efforts. PPH should be encouraged to meet and beat all bids--if they can meet the deadlines. If not, PPH doesn’t get the job, plain and simple.

Competition improves quality and competence
Adopting this type of policy would improve the competency of PPH. If our own denominational printer can’t compete with other printers; the PPH printing presses should be shut down as an expensive drag on the cause of Christ. PPH could evolve into becoming a think tank of creative writers and graphic designers who outsource their printing to the most competitive bid. Our commitment is to publishing the gospel of Jesus Christ. We shouldn’t have to keep propping up an old paradigm that grossed 10 million dollars last year---and still had a $56,418 deficit.

Open the General Conference sales area to all Christian publishers.
I’m talking about breaking the PPH monopoly that hires writers because their husbands got elected as an official or hired as an employee. The nepotism and despotism needs to be cleaned out! When faced with true competition, hiring someone’s wife or daughter wouldn’t cut it anymore--unless she has a journalism degree and can actually write. The gravy-train fat at Haneywood needs to be sliced and fried!

The General Conference Sales Area should be opened up to outside Christian literature producers and ministries. Sure, place them in a separate area. Their company signage would inform the faithful that they’re not Apostolic. Sell these non-Apostolic firms their floor space at a premium rate. I mean charge them through the nose! The very on-site presence of competition will force PPH to improve, innovate, and get missions-minded in order to survive. Some of the conference expenses that PPH has traditionally carried could be partially recovered by these outsource leasing fees.

Open up the catalogue as a advertising device for every author & product
I think it is shameful that PPH carries books/literature by Trinitarians and rejects biblically-correct pamphlets, booklets, books, and products by Apostolic authors and producers. Well, they can’t carry everything can they? Bro. Yohe, that would be expensive! True. But PPH could turn their catalogue into a money-making project instead of the expensive drain on their annual budget. As well as including every Apostolic author and missions-motivated product created in the Apostolic world! How? Other than PPH’s own literature and Word Aflame’s own authors, sell every bit of space in the catalogue to the individual authors and producers.

Classified Ad Section ( D )
Here’s how it would work: In the back of the catalogue, have what would basically be a black-and-white classified ad section. Charge an author $25 for a five-line ad listing his book or product with all contact information. If he wants to be listed on the Internet website--charge him another $25 per book! PPH wouldn’t carry the book--they glean income from the advertising and a fee for passing on the order.

Display Ad Section ( C )
Follow the same concept but offering page sections---at varying prices-to the author or producers. For example, an author with several books--at $25 per book ad in the black-and-white classified section---may be better off paying the $500 or so dollars for a color display ad. Again unless certain sales criteria is achieved, PPH would not carry the book themselves but would exact a fee for transferring the order to the author or producer.

Set Sales Goals To Be Inventoried Authors / Producers should be informed if they sell 25-50 books within a designated period--then in the next edition of the PPH catalogue, PPH will carry the book/product themselves and display their books/products in the PPH’s own area of the catalogue. This gives the author/producers an incentive to promote the sales of their books to their friends, churches, and acquaintances. So they initially bear advertising costs in order to promote sales to get their product into the (free-to-them) PPH section. Everybody wins! PPH gets advertising revenue. The author/producers get national exposure and a chance to be inventoried by PPH. If the quotas aren’t met--the subsequent year, PPH drops them back into the pay-as-you-go area of the catalogue.

[RevOpinion]

Continued -

This eliminates Shoot-From-The-Hip Publication Committee biases
Submit anything to PPH now and it is subject to either a personal judgment call or the Publication Committee’s own ideas of what should be carried. Some wonderful people are on that committee who need to head for the golf course. Like much of the Urshan Administration era--it’s stagnant with ‘50’s era mindset. This prove-your-worth (or put your money where your new book or product is) approach takes the unfairness of a personal judgment out of the submission of a new item.

Other Apostolic Authors/Producers Section ( B )
PPH would purchase and carry the actual good-sellers that have proven their mettle in the Classified or Independent Display Ad area. Again, sales criteria would have to be met or the product would be dropped in the next year’s Edition down to the pay-as-you-go areas of the PPH catalogue.

PPH Products / World Aflame Books Section ( A )
As always, placed prominently at the front of the catalogue.

Do I have personal axes to grind with PPH?
I have never been one of their better-selling authors. PPH has currently dropped all of my books except “With Every Breath I Praise Him!” which is a book I wrote about the Jack E. Yonts II miracle. Jack owns the book and I receive no revenue from any sales of it. Of course, I think if my books were promoted as much as La Joyce Martin and David Bernard, I’d probably sell more books, too! How many more hats is the UPCI going to cram on top of David Bernard? There are other gifted, talented Apostolics out here. WEC’s Urshan-Era Good-Old-Boy’s Club is simply too lazy to look for other people.

My quarrel isn’t with PPH’s people, it’s the out-dated, out-of-touch policies and content of their boring printed material. PPH’s Youth and College-age material reflects no awareness of the world we live in. Recent statistics show that not only do 40% of all USA four-graders know about oral sex--they’ve already experimented with it! Ironically, Kent d Curry--Marvin Curry’s son--is an editor of an independent on-line youth magazine entitled, Ninety & Nine, that really monitors the pulse of our current generation of Apostolic youth. A wonderful source for a new line of youth literature right there under his Dad’s aristocratic nose!

An Apostolic alternative needs to be developed
Authors, writers, church teachers, preachers, and leaders need to come together and write literature that meets the needs of this generation. Richard Davis’ heavy-handed editorial approach is turning out the most dry, stale, passionless Adult material in the history of the church. “The Letter Killeth--the Spirit giveth Life” was, no doubt, prophesied by someone in Bible times that supernaturally was allowed to pre-read the PPH’s Expository Series. A independent-producer should tackle one area---Adult--High School--College--and develop a line of literature. Promote that line successfully--take away PPH’s market share, then tackle another area with spirit-anointed, quality writing that addresses the needs of this generation. Then continue to innovate as PPH’s market share deteriorates--until they listen to the needs of this generation of churches or finally retire their stagnant mindsets. Copying the Trinitarians for the cloistered Apostolic market has been PPH’s way of life for years. If there hadn‘t been a Super Church developed by Trinitarians, you‘d never have seen a PPH’s Kid‘s Power Hour. New ideas aren’t necessarily an indictment of the old.

It’s simply time for a change.


(How’d I do, Bro. Pugh?)

[rgcraig]

Bro. Yohe had it going on!

[mizpeh]

Bro. Yohe had it going on!

He was definitely a Grade One thinker!!:thumbsup

[Esther]

Bro. Yohe had it going on!

Yes he did.

[DividedThigh]

innovation is the mother of all invention, and the result of some not thinking, thank god for people who get it, dt