Managing the younger generation is a real challeng

[rgcraig]

Last week, I had an employee scheduled to be at work at 7:30 a.m. - didn’t hear a word from her. Finally, at 1:00 p.m. “her friend” called and said she was taken to the emergency room at 3:00 a.m. that morning with an allergic reaction.

I was a little taken back because her mom use to work here and I thought her mom would have for sure known to call us to let us know what was going on. (red flag)

The next day, she was at work. She told the ladies they didn’t know if it was a bug bite or something she had eaten, but at one point she couldn’t breath and had a big knot appear on her neck. Then later she told me that her whole neck was swollen and had fluid built up and they were going to have to slit her throat. (red flag)

Okay, by now my mom instincts were really kicking in and I’m thinking….WHAT? However, I’m trying to be open-minded and fair and give her the benefit of the doubt.

I met with her that afternoon and told her that what she did was considered a No Call/No Show and usually you are given a written warning. This time I was going to just go over the attendance rules with her to make sure she knew what was expected of her and then asked that she provide me with a copy of her discharge papers from the hospital for her file.

Next day, I received an email that she had looked high and low in her car and house and couldn’t find anything. She called the facility and asked them to fax her doctor the proper papers and she would get me a copy because when she called the hospital they said they could only fax to another doctor (red flag).

She wasn’t scheduled to work the next two days. (plenty of time to gather her documentation).

So, now it’s been a week and no word. I forwarded her the email where she said she would get the info to me and told her that I need the information by the close of business that day.

After lunch, I had a fax on my desk. The fax number from where it was faxed was crossed out (red flag), but it had the hospital logo and some information was there.

I decided to do a little investigating so I ran a report on the fax machine it came in on to see where the fax came from. At the time it was received there was only one transmission received and it was from MSD International which is a dept at our company two floors up. (red flag)

I ran the report on International’s fax to see if perhaps it was received on that one from the hospital. That fax had not received any transmissions that day. It did confirm that a two-page fax was transmitted from there to our fax machine. (BIG RED FLAG)

It was the end of that day, so I thought on it that night and came in the next day and decided to call the hospital to see if they would let me know if they had anyone come in (a week prior) by my employee’s name. Nope. I asked if I could fax the form to them to verify it was indeed their form.

They called back and said, it wasn’t their form, but there are several clinics in the area with that logo.

I called one of the clinics and she was very helpful. She said their computers were all linked so if she was at any of the clinics she would show up. They checked – NOPE. I asked if I could fax the form for her to verify.

They called back and the first thing the lady said was, “that’s a cut and paste job”!!!!! The logo is from our clinics and the rest of the form is from the hospital.

OH MY WORD!!!!!

I met with our HR Rep and she guided me how to proceed.

I met with the employee and told her that, “after taking into consideration the red flags and looking further into the form you submitted – it doesn’t appear to be authentic.” She had to the end of the day to make a choice:

1. Have the facility fax me directly the discharge form with her name, date and time.

OR

2. Accept a Written Warning – No Call/No Show

The color drained from her face and she said, “I’ll have to sign the warning”!

No joke?????

However, here’s the point of my HUGE post……..she showed absolutely NO REGRET!

I told her I was disappointed in her actions and all she STARTED to argue about was - - “it was personal”. I stopped her and said, I’m not asking you where you were or what happened – this is about you not calling and not showing up for work.

She offered - - No apology. No – I’m sorry I’ve let you down. No – I won’t do it again.

The rest of the afternoon she acted like nothing was wrong. Had that happened to me I would still had my tail tucked.

A real different generation entering the work force!!

[Baron1710]

Which is why I have always stressed the fact that I have almost never missed work (certainly never without communicating before) and am never late when applying for a job.

So are you a detective now too?

[rgcraig]

Which is why I have always stressed the fact that I have almost never missed work (certainly never without communicating before) and am never late when applying for a job.

So are you a detective now too?

LOL....I'm thinking of taking that up as a side job! :ursofunny

[KWSS1976]

Good investigation on your part way to go...I have worked with a few that have done this same thing...LOL I guess it was how they were raised...I recommended someone for a job one time and then got promoted to Shop Manager and the guy I recommended for this job I had to fire him cause of how he performed in the field..LOL talk about funny situation

[Sister Alvear]

If anything gets under my skin it is a liar...I do not trust people that lie...for I have learned they keep on lying until to them is is no longer ever a lie...

[Sister Alvear]

My sister has a vey high job and she has often spoken to me about people who do certain things like Renda mentioned....what a shame and a greater shame when they are church people...

[Sister Alvear]

The last few months I have had to deal with people that lie...it really bothers me...

[Elizabeth]

Amazingly stupid!

She will probably have more up her sleeve, sounds like dishonesty is a way of life for her.

She probably wonders why things do not work out for her-duh!

[Timmy]

It's not just the younger generation, but it does seem to be getting worse. Some of my son's friends (ex-friends now!) were really bad. Lied all the time, to him, to me, to everyone. Crazy.

[LadyRev]

I know EXACTLY what you mean.

A little over a year ago I started a new job. There were 8 people total in my training class all of which were younger than me by 10 years or more.

At this time, only 3 of of the 8 remain, including myself. There were attendance issues mostly but also some productivity issues.

The most notable thing with each of them was their indifferent attitude towards warnings of impending termination if they didn't straighten up and fly right. They simply didn't care.

I have a great supervisor that will bend over backwards for anyone that is really trying. But she isn't going to put up with an "I don't care" attitude and I don't blame her. Instead of taking her instructions and trying to improve, or showing any regret or smidget of caring about their jobs, they just griped and complained about her and ultimately ended up fired.

Go figure!

[rgcraig]

I'm beginning to suspect she is a habitual liar - this is just the first real proof of it.

She tends to tell grandious stories that we've all questioned her on, but no proof.

She's 22. Whatever we discuss she is an expect on it.

She actually argued with me one time about the new cubicle walls in another building. Long story, but she said they went to the ceiling - - I said, no they are regular cubicle height. She basically stood in my face and said I didn't know what I was talking about.

I politely suggested that we walk over there together and I'll show her they are regular height. She said, no, I know what I saw.

Okay.....so when she went to sit at the receptionist desk it took her 15 minutes to get there -- we assumed she had walked over to the other building to look. Never heard another peep out of her.

I don't like liars and know-it-alls that know nothing!

[Baron1710]

I'm beginning to suspect she is a habitual liar - this is just the first real proof of it.

She tends to tell grandious stories that we've all questioned her on, but no proof.

She's 22. Whatever we discuss she is an expect on it.

She actually argued with me one time about the new cubicle walls in another building. Long story, but she said they went to the ceiling - - I said, no they are regular cubicle height. She basically stood in my face and said I didn't know what I was talking about.

I politely suggested that we walk over there together and I'll show her they are regular height. She said, no, I know what I saw.

Okay.....so when she went to sit at the receptionist desk it took her 15 minutes to get there -- we assumed she had walked over to the other building to look. Never heard another peep out of her.

I don't like liars and know-it-alls that know nothing!

Hey don't talk to me like that...Oh wait you said, "Liars" nevermind.

[Sister Alvear]

These things are serious character flaws...I just dealt with some .......................... whatever took them all over them telling of their great call...spent money on them...only for them to return to the states and say GOD changed HIS MIND...
and believe it or not some pastors believe that! lol...

They need to be sat down and told GOD does not lie...and REAL mission work like about any other thing is NOT a FREE lunch...

In 40 plus years have seen that happen quite a few times...when people see work is work unless they are really called they are on the next plane home...

I guess I am getting old and cranky but I am tired of people coming to the field for a free lunch or to find a boyfriend or girlfriend...

[Sister Alvear]

I'm beginning to suspect she is a habitual liar - this is just the first real proof of it.

She tends to tell grandious stories that we've all questioned her on, but no proof.

She's 22. Whatever we discuss she is an expect on it.

She actually argued with me one time about the new cubicle walls in another building. Long story, but she said they went to the ceiling - - I said, no they are regular cubicle height. She basically stood in my face and said I didn't know what I was talking about.

I politely suggested that we walk over there together and I'll show her they are regular height. She said, no, I know what I saw.





Okay.....so when she went to sit at the receptionist desk it took her 15 minutes to get there -- we assumed she had walked over to the other building to look. Never heard another peep out of her.

I don't like liars and know-it-alls that know nothing!




I agree with you 100 %...I hate lies...and know it alls...

[Elizabeth]

I'm beginning to suspect she is a habitual liar - this is just the first real proof of it.

She tends to tell grandious stories that we've all questioned her on, but no proof.

She's 22. Whatever we discuss she is an expect on it.

She actually argued with me one time about the new cubicle walls in another building. Long story, but she said they went to the ceiling - - I said, no they are regular cubicle height. She basically stood in my face and said I didn't know what I was talking about.

I politely suggested that we walk over there together and I'll show her they are regular height. She said, no, I know what I saw.

Okay.....so when she went to sit at the receptionist desk it took her 15 minutes to get there -- we assumed she had walked over to the other building to look. Never heard another peep out of her.

I don't like liars and know-it-alls that know nothing!

I know what you mean--I do not like liars either.

But at a place of employment where you want to build trust, she is only making it harder for self by developing a reputation as a liar.

It's one thing to make a mistake, but once you have a bad reputation no one trusts you.

[Sister Alvear]

I have seen people weep and put on a hollywood act that would fool about anyone...

[Sister Alvear]

I know what you mean--I do not like liars either.

But at a place of employment where you want to build trust, she is only making it harder for self by developing a reputation as a liar.

It's one thing to make a mistake, but once you have a bad reputation no one trusts you.


a mistake is one thing but to lie and lie and lie is another thing...

Love you dear friend.

[Elizabeth]

These things are serious character flaws...I just dealt with some .......................... whatever took them all over them telling of their great call...spent money on them...only for them to return to the states and say GOD changed HIS MIND...
and believe it or not some pastors believe that! lol...

They need to be sat down and told GOD does not lie...and REAL mission work like about any other thing is NOT a FREE lunch...

In 40 plus years have seen that happen quite a few times...when people see work is work unless they are really called they are on the next plane home...

I guess I am getting old and cranky but I am tired of people coming to the field for a free lunch or to find a boyfriend or girlfriend...

Wow seriously?!

What kind of a person goes on the mission field to find a boyfriend? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Although, I must say I just heard a story like this in Singapore- an American found an Asain young man to marry and there is a 20 yr gape in their ages. Seems a little strange to me.

[LadyRev]

I'm beginning to suspect she is a habitual liar - this is just the first real proof of it.

She tends to tell grandious stories that we've all questioned her on, but no proof.

She's 22. Whatever we discuss she is an expect on it.

She actually argued with me one time about the new cubicle walls in another building. Long story, but she said they went to the ceiling - - I said, no they are regular cubicle height. She basically stood in my face and said I didn't know what I was talking about.

I politely suggested that we walk over there together and I'll show her they are regular height. She said, no, I know what I saw.

Okay.....so when she went to sit at the receptionist desk it took her 15 minutes to get there -- we assumed she had walked over to the other building to look. Never heard another peep out of her.

I don't like liars and know-it-alls that know nothing!


We had a young guy in the group that would argue and argue with our sup. She tolerated it well. I think the guy would have argued with a concrete wall.

He was a "know it all" type too.

[Sister Alvear]

strange Know it all´s usually have nothing to show for their great knowledge...

[Elizabeth]

a mistake is one thing but to lie and lie and lie is another thing...

Love you dear friend.
Appreciate all you go through Sister Alvear, missions is not a glory road it is a gory road.

I think it's pride that makes people lie and not tell the truth- you have to be a humble person to admit you were wrong and ask for help.

It seems easier to me to admit to wrong doing than it does to cover it up with lies, but people sometimes are too ignorant to see that.

[Elizabeth]

strange Know it all´s usually have nothing to show for their great knowledge...

Lol! That is so true!

[misspresley]

Renda, none of your story surprises me - I could tell you some that would almost equal it. Somewhere a huge group of kids of this same generation were never taught ethics of any kind, and it's showing in our society. And nothing is EVER their fault, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault - ALWAYS! Very frustrating to deal with.

[Baron1710]

Renda, none of your story surprises me - I could tell you some that would almost equal it. Somewhere a huge group of kids of this same generation were never taught ethics of any kind, and it's showing in our society. And nothing is EVER their fault, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault - ALWAYS! Very frustrating to deal with.

We have elected someone like that, if it's a problem then George Bush did it.

[MrsMcD]

Good detective work Renda. lol

[StillStanding]

You have to give the girl an A+ for creativity! :D

She went thru a lot of trouble to try and cover up everything.

Great detective work, Renda!

[Sister Alvear]

I vote to elect Renda the detective of the year!

[*AQuietPlace*]

Just think how successful she could be if she'd put that much effort into her job.

[Michlow]

Last week, I had an employee scheduled to be at work at 7:30 a.m. - didn’t hear a word from her. Finally, at 1:00 p.m. “her friend” called and said she was taken to the emergency room at 3:00 a.m. that morning with an allergic reaction.

I was a little taken back because her mom use to work here and I thought her mom would have for sure known to call us to let us know what was going on. (red flag)

The next day, she was at work. She told the ladies they didn’t know if it was a bug bite or something she had eaten, but at one point she couldn’t breath and had a big knot appear on her neck. Then later she told me that her whole neck was swollen and had fluid built up and they were going to have to slit her throat. (red flag)

Okay, by now my mom instincts were really kicking in and I’m thinking….WHAT? However, I’m trying to be open-minded and fair and give her the benefit of the doubt.

I met with her that afternoon and told her that what she did was considered a No Call/No Show and usually you are given a written warning. This time I was going to just go over the attendance rules with her to make sure she knew what was expected of her and then asked that she provide me with a copy of her discharge papers from the hospital for her file.

Next day, I received an email that she had looked high and low in her car and house and couldn’t find anything. She called the facility and asked them to fax her doctor the proper papers and she would get me a copy because when she called the hospital they said they could only fax to another doctor (red flag).

She wasn’t scheduled to work the next two days. (plenty of time to gather her documentation).

So, now it’s been a week and no word. I forwarded her the email where she said she would get the info to me and told her that I need the information by the close of business that day.

After lunch, I had a fax on my desk. The fax number from where it was faxed was crossed out (red flag), but it had the hospital logo and some information was there.

I decided to do a little investigating so I ran a report on the fax machine it came in on to see where the fax came from. At the time it was received there was only one transmission received and it was from MSD International which is a dept at our company two floors up. (red flag)

I ran the report on International’s fax to see if perhaps it was received on that one from the hospital. That fax had not received any transmissions that day. It did confirm that a two-page fax was transmitted from there to our fax machine. (BIG RED FLAG)

It was the end of that day, so I thought on it that night and came in the next day and decided to call the hospital to see if they would let me know if they had anyone come in (a week prior) by my employee’s name. Nope. I asked if I could fax the form to them to verify it was indeed their form.

They called back and said, it wasn’t their form, but there are several clinics in the area with that logo.

I called one of the clinics and she was very helpful. She said their computers were all linked so if she was at any of the clinics she would show up. They checked – NOPE. I asked if I could fax the form for her to verify.

They called back and the first thing the lady said was, “that’s a cut and paste job”!!!!! The logo is from our clinics and the rest of the form is from the hospital.

OH MY WORD!!!!!

I met with our HR Rep and she guided me how to proceed.

I met with the employee and told her that, “after taking into consideration the red flags and looking further into the form you submitted – it doesn’t appear to be authentic.” She had to the end of the day to make a choice:

1. Have the facility fax me directly the discharge form with her name, date and time.

OR

2. Accept a Written Warning – No Call/No Show

The color drained from her face and she said, “I’ll have to sign the warning”!

No joke?????

However, here’s the point of my HUGE post……..she showed absolutely NO REGRET!

I told her I was disappointed in her actions and all she STARTED to argue about was - - “it was personal”. I stopped her and said, I’m not asking you where you were or what happened – this is about you not calling and not showing up for work.

She offered - - No apology. No – I’m sorry I’ve let you down. No – I won’t do it again.

The rest of the afternoon she acted like nothing was wrong. Had that happened to me I would still had my tail tucked.

A real different generation entering the work force!!

I think that people like that, who have no moral character or integrity, in fact have an innate sense of entitlement.

Why would they feel guilt or remorse, when they feel that the world / company / everyone else owes them something?

Managing them might be extremely frustrating, but I think that working for such a person might be just as bad!

[rgcraig]

Just think how successful she could be if she'd put that much effort into her job.

Who me? :ursofunny

No, I know you mean her - - or I hope you did!

[*AQuietPlace*]

Who me? :ursofunny

No, I know you mean her - - or I hope you did!
Lol!! :ursofunny


Yeah, I meant her. :D

[rgcraig]

I think that people like that, who have no moral character or integrity, in fact have an innate sense of entitlement.

Why would they feel guilt or remorse, when they feel that the world / company / everyone else owes them something?

Managing them might be extremely frustrating, but I think that working for such a person might be just as bad!

Yes, they are real big on our CORE Behaviors in HR - - she's failed about half of them - - candor - trust/respect - accountability and I mentioned all that in my little speech.

I also have learned to type out what I'm going to say and give her a copy and not to veer too far off the written words because she will "misunderstand" what I said or say I never said that. She can't argue with the written words especially when she's given a copy.

Entitlement is a big issue with her for sure!

[Jermyn Davidson]

We have elected someone like that, if it's a problem then George Bush did it.

Uh, the only difference here is that your statement is actually true.

:)

[Jermyn Davidson]

She had to the end of the day to make a choice:

1. Have the facility fax me directly the discharge form with her name, date and time.

OR

2. Accept a Written Warning – No Call/No Show.




A real different generation entering the work force!!


Renda,

At this point, I would have been more inclined to just fire her for lying. At the bare minimum, she would have lost hours (suspension, forced vacation, etc.)



Did I meet this employee?

[rgcraig]

Renda,

At this point, I would have been more inclined to just fire her for lying. At the bare minimum, she would have lost hours (suspension, forced vacation, etc.)



Did I meet this employee?

I couldn't fire her - - all the red tape - - you have to really have a case. However, with the written warning, the next incident she will be out of there.

No, you didn't met her. She job shares with an older lady and I remember Bonnie was there that day because she told Angela (the cute one) that you were really cute!

[ILG]

I think there are people like that in all generations. It sounds like you handled it real well though.

[Tina]

If anything gets under my skin it is a liar...I do not trust people that lie...for I have learned they keep on lying until to them is is no longer ever a lie...

I'm beginning to suspect she is a habitual liar - this is just the first real proof of it.

She tends to tell grandious stories that we've all questioned her on, but no proof.

She's 22. Whatever we discuss she is an expect on it.

She actually argued with me one time about the new cubicle walls in another building. Long story, but she said they went to the ceiling - - I said, no they are regular cubicle height. She basically stood in my face and said I didn't know what I was talking about.

I politely suggested that we walk over there together and I'll show her they are regular height. She said, no, I know what I saw.

Okay.....so when she went to sit at the receptionist desk it took her 15 minutes to get there -- we assumed she had walked over to the other building to look. Never heard another peep out of her.

I don't like liars and know-it-alls that know nothing!

My parents always taught me that you need to build a reputation of being an honest, trustworthy person.

I have always said that if anyone would LIE to you, they would STEAL from you. Renda, you might want to check for missing office supplies. LOL

[Michlow]

My parents always taught me that you need to build a reputation of being an honest, trustworthy person.

I have always said that if anyone would LIE to you, they would STEAL from you. Renda, you might want to check for missing office supplies. LOL

I once worked for a short time for a man (as a bookkeeper) who wanted me to employ some..ahhh..."creative" methods. I don't think he ever understood that if I was willing to cheat someone else for him, then I was the last person he should be trusting to do his books!

[Jermyn Davidson]

I couldn't fire her - - all the red tape - - you have to really have a case. However, with the written warning, the next incident she will be out of there.

No, you didn't met her. She job shares with an older lady and I remember Bonnie was there that day because she told Angela (the cute one) that you were really cute!


Yeah,
I wish Angela was Apostolic and in Orlando!!!! :)

[rgcraig]

Yeah,
I wish Angela was Apostolic and in Orlando!!!! :)

She is Apostolic (COGIC) - just not in Orlando!

[Sister Alvear]

People many times lie when the truth would suit them better...many times the lie comes back over and over to haunt the person even thought the truth got out...the person will be remembered for lying...

You know we deal a lot with it in church work....couples mess up...ask you to marry them...pose as virgens before the holy alter of God and have a baby in 6 months...lol...then wonder and even get mad when people talk or ask questions...

WE ALL at some point may tell a lie not intending for it to be a lie but to lie to cover up like Renda just told us about is a pattern...

[rgcraig]

You are right Sis. Alvear. I had the feeling she might have this problem, but had not been able to pinpoint it to confirm it. Well, this was so extravagant that it was easy to confirm and now makes me doubt everything else she has said or done.

Like I told her, I'm willing to put this behind us and move forward, but I also told her it will take a while to build the trust between us now.

[mizpeh]

You are right Sis. Alvear. I had the feeling she might have this problem, but had not been able to pinpoint it to confirm it. Well, this was so extravagant that it was easy to confirm and now makes me doubt everything else she has said or done.

Like I told her, I'm willing to put this behind us and move forward, but I also told her it will take a while to build the trust between us now.

If she changes, you may end up with the best worker you have ever had. Have you prayed for her?

[rgcraig]

If she changes, you may end up with the best worker you have ever had. Have you prayed for her?

I have not, but I will. I've just been praying to keep my HG!

We had another "Come to Jesus" talk last year and when I asked her if she had any questions or comments about what we discussed she said, "my mom would agree with everything you just said and be glad you talked to me about it."

I knew I'd said the right things.

That incident she was insubordinate toward me and I should have written her up for that, but was giving her a chance.

[missourimary]

Sounds like several of the people who work for me! I had an employee forge a "doctor's note" on a piece of memo paper, in his own handwriting.

RGCraig, I wish you worked for me-I need some supervisors like you who can look into things. Good for you!

It does seem to happen here more with people under 40, and more the younger they get, but I've also seen it quite a bit in people that are older. Three of my worst lying employees are over 40, and two of those are over 50. And several of my problem employees have asked me to hire their kids-ha! :)

[Pressing-On]

I have not, but I will. I've just been praying to keep my HG!

We had another "Come to Jesus" talk last year and when I asked her if she had any questions or comments about what we discussed she said, "my mom would agree with everything you just said and be glad you talked to me about it."

I knew I'd said the right things.

That incident she was insubordinate toward me and I should have written her up for that, but was giving her a chance.

I remember her!!!! Good luck with that one! :thumbsup

Must be watching too many movies and living in a dream world. Maybe they think the end will work itself out regardless of their actions. lol

[Jermyn Davidson]

She is Apostolic (COGIC) - just not in Orlando!


Nope, been down that road.

COGIC is not Apostolic.

Close, but their doctrine on baptism is based on an error.


When it comes to dating, the next lady will have a CRYSTAL CLEAR UNDERSTANDING on the importance, the essentiallity of baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ.


Bpatism in Jesus Name is one of my convictions.
Others can do what they want and I'll accept them as they are. But I've drawn the line at baptism in Jesus Name.

Being single isn't so bad, most nights, anyway.

[rgcraig]

Nope, been down that road.

COGIC is not Apostolic.

Close, but their doctrine on baptism is based on an error.


When it comes to dating, the next lady will have a CRYSTAL CLEAR UNDERSTANDING on the importance, the essentiallity of baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ.


Bpatism in Jesus Name is one of my convictions.
Others can do what they want and I'll accept them as they are. But I've drawn the line at baptism in Jesus Name.

Being single isn't so bad, most nights, anyway.LOL! Well, look at it this way - you can do whatever you want whenever you want!

[Jermyn Davidson]

LOL! Well, look at it this way - you can do whatever you want whenever you want!

Yeah like drive to Jackson & Memphis, TN!!!
And then on to Orlando, FL to decide, "Today, I will start living here!!"

Being single does have its perks.


Being single DOES NOT negate the need for cash however. In fact, it accentuates it.

[Sister Alvear]

God can and will change anyone but the person must want change...

[GodsBabyGirl]

WOW!!! Thats a mouthful! I never even thought folks who went on the missions field would play like that! God help them!

[GodsBabyGirl]

This whole post brings to mind the challenge of not just working with the younger generation, but ministering TO them. We are dealing with a generation unlike ours. Some are liars; some never have been in a church; and if they have, they are riding on the coattails of their parents. Sad to say, there are really a small number of young folks who are REALLY saved! I mean would die for this gospel saved. So here's the challenge:

How do we effectively minister to this generation?

A generation that makes their own rules up of what's right and what's wrong? They do so because the New Age movement and secular humanism has taught them to.

How do we impart the biblical sense of good and evil and counteract the diabolical scheme and plot of the enemy to make young folks think there are no absolute evils or good. All of life is one big gray area...

Sis Craig mentions what its like to work with someone like this...but how could we witness to her and get her saved?

Just pondering...know I haven't been around in a minute....God Bless!

[rgcraig]

Well, looks like my problem employee hasn't changed.

Last week, I sent her an email to come help out in the phone room because we were short a couple ladies. She didn't respond to the email, so I called in scanning room where she works and the other employee said they hadn't seen her.

At noon, she called me from the scanning room and said she had been here since 7:30 a.m., but was in a MECCA meeting (this is an extracurricular employee resource group). I told her she wasn't suppose to be in a MECCA meeting except on her own time and she should have even requested from me to attend. She said she didn't realize she would have to do that.

So.....today, I received the access report to see when she entered the building (we have access badges) and she didn't access the building until 11:50 a.m.

She wasn't in a meeting - she wasn't even HERE! AND....there wasn't even a MECCA meeting - - no one was here because of it being a day before a holiday.

Why, why, why does she think she can lie like this without getting caught.

This is grounds for dismissal.

[Pressing-On]

Well, looks like my problem employee hasn't changed.

Last week, I sent her an email to come help out in the phone room because we were short a couple ladies. She didn't respond to the email, so I called in scanning room where she works and the other employee said they hadn't seen her.

At noon, she called me from the scanning room and said she had been here since 7:30 a.m., but was in a MECCA meeting (this is an extracurricular employee resource group). I told her she wasn't suppose to be in a MECCA meeting except on her own time and she should have even requested from me to attend. She said she didn't realize she would have to do that.

So.....today, I received the access report to see when she entered the building (we have access badges) and she didn't access the building until 11:50 a.m.

She wasn't in a meeting - she wasn't even HERE! AND....there wasn't even a MECCA meeting - - no one was here because of it being a day before a holiday.

Why, why, why does she think she can lie like this without getting caught.

This is grounds for dismissal.
Finally!!! :thumbsup

[rgcraig]

Finally!!! :thumbsup

That's what my boss said!

[Pressing-On]

That's what my boss said!
LOL!

I can't stand inefficient, incompetent, inept and lazy people! Just get out of my way if you can't do it right! Whew! Glad I got that off my chest!!!

Now....my husband is taking a nap and when he gets up, he will be replacing the leaky kitchen faucet! Yes, he will!! :D :toofunny

[Timmy]

LOL!

I can't stand inefficient, incompetent, inept and lazy people! Just get out of my way if you can't do it right! Whew! Glad I got that off my chest!!!

Now....my husband is taking a nap and when he gets up, he will be replacing the leaky kitchen faucet! Yes, he will!! :D :toofunny

Won't he have the option of getting out of your way?

:heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

Won't he have the option of getting out of your way?

:heeheehee

LOL!

Actually, I had a project going on both counters and he couldn't get to it this morning. I suspect he wanted to listen to Jim Rome and take a nap until I cleaned up my mess. Just about done with that! :thumbsup

[rgcraig]

LOL!

I can't stand inefficient, incompetent, inept and lazy people! Just get out of my way if you can't do it right! Whew! Glad I got that off my chest!!!

Now....my husband is taking a nap and when he gets up, he will be replacing the leaky kitchen faucet! Yes, he will!! :D :toofunny

Can't handle smart mouthed, liars.

[Pressing-On]

Can't handle smart mouthed, liars.
:thumbsup

[Tina]

Well, looks like my problem employee hasn't changed.

Last week, I sent her an email to come help out in the phone room because we were short a couple ladies. She didn't respond to the email, so I called in scanning room where she works and the other employee said they hadn't seen her.

At noon, she called me from the scanning room and said she had been here since 7:30 a.m., but was in a MECCA meeting (this is an extracurricular employee resource group). I told her she wasn't suppose to be in a MECCA meeting except on her own time and she should have even requested from me to attend. She said she didn't realize she would have to do that.

So.....today, I received the access report to see when she entered the building (we have access badges) and she didn't access the building until 11:50 a.m.

She wasn't in a meeting - she wasn't even HERE! AND....there wasn't even a MECCA meeting - - no one was here because of it being a day before a holiday.

Why, why, why does she think she can lie like this without getting caught.

This is grounds for dismissal.

So has she been officially dismissed yet? As many people as there are looking for jobs, there has to be someone more dependable than her that could fill that position.

[rgcraig]

Had the "meeting" with her - she BLEW IT!

She said she was meeting informally with someone for all that time and we already knew that person wasn't even HERE!!!! They had taken vacation on Wednesday.

Yes, you are right there are people out there needing jobs!

What's crazy is if she had just said, you know, I over slept and my cell phone was dead so I couldn't call you, but I'm here now. I couldn't have done anything, but NO she had to make up another stupid story. She'll learn maybe some day.

What's really sad is she very defiant - - she said to my boss (and he's a mean looking dude), "well, for the record there are people all over that stand and talk at someone's desk for 30 minutes or more and they talk about it and just laugh that they do it".

And that had WHAT to do with your story - - PLUS....those people are actually talking to people that are HERE ------lol!!!!!

She will be terminated.

[rgcraig]

Termination at 3:00 p.m. today.

Never easy.

[commonsense]

I vote to elect Renda the detective of the year!

Absolutely!

I agree, I've noticed a difference in ethics among younger coworkers.

The amount of creativity and "work" involved in the fax is rather amusing. It would be much easier to tell the truth!!

[rgcraig]

The problem that never goes away!

I found out today at 11:00 that I had to represent my company at 1:00 at a appeals hearing. The young lady that I had let go in November was denied unemployment benefits and had filed an appeal.

It would have been quite comical had it not been so sad. She's still telling lies. The hearing officer was amazed, I believe, at the length she was going to trying to "defend" herself when she was only digging the hole deeper.

It's been quite a day!