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Esther
06-10-2009, 10:18 AM
I am going to have to buy a new air conditioning system. Any suggestions?

I currently have a Trane and the repairman is suggesting a Carrier, 4 Ton 14 Seer.

I am still in sticker shock of the price quote:sad

KWSS1976
06-10-2009, 10:21 AM
I think the lower number of seers the more entergy eff.. they are

KWSS1976
06-10-2009, 10:25 AM
This is my unit I think it is 10 or 12 seer

http://www.nordyne.com/Literature/931a.pdf

KWSS1976
06-10-2009, 10:27 AM
It is really quiet too

RandyWayne
06-10-2009, 10:29 AM
I have always heard that Trane makes the best, or at least is right there with the best. What sort of prices have you been seeing? We need to replace ours in about a year.

Digging4Truth
06-10-2009, 10:29 AM
Window units. :)

Works for me.

Timmy
06-10-2009, 10:59 AM
http://promotions.advanceweb.com/images/products/2007/CP/CP_electronics/05946_MistingPersonalFan_CP/05946_MistPerFan_CP_med.jpg

Timmy
06-10-2009, 11:00 AM
Or maybe this:

http://www.seyculhan.com/commercial/image017.jpg

Esther
06-10-2009, 11:07 AM
I have always heard that Trane makes the best, or at least is right there with the best. What sort of prices have you been seeing? We need to replace ours in about a year.

We currently have a Trane.

He works for Carrier and recommends the Carrier. He is my neighbors son and I believe he is being honest, but I also know he may not be paritial. :)

4 Ton 14 Seer with 10 year parts and labor...4950.00.
4 Ton 14 Seer with 5 year parts and labor...4450.00

I just got off the phone talking to another guy who comes highly recommended and put a unit in the house I sold, and he is going to check his prices and get back to me. He is selling Payne's which he said is made by Carrier.

Esther
06-10-2009, 11:09 AM
http://promotions.advanceweb.com/images/products/2007/CP/CP_electronics/05946_MistingPersonalFan_CP/05946_MistPerFan_CP_med.jpg

:snapout

Esther
06-10-2009, 11:10 AM
Or maybe this:

http://www.seyculhan.com/commercial/image017.jpg

That should cool most anything. :ursofunny

Ron
06-10-2009, 11:33 AM
Wow, Esther you is fast!:thumbsup

Timmy
06-10-2009, 11:40 AM
I'm happy with the units in our 2-year-old house. I don't remember the name, though, and to find out would mean walking all the way downstairs and outside. Maybe tomorrow. :toofunny

Ron
06-10-2009, 11:43 AM
I'm happy with the units in our 2-year-old house. I don't remember the name, though, and to find out would mean walking all the way downstairs and outside. Maybe tomorrow. :toofunny

Most home A/C units in Vancouver are two fans & a open window!
Surprisingly A/C units are affordable.

Unless one is elderly or has health issues, most people don't have A/C for home.

Timmy
06-10-2009, 11:44 AM
Most home A/C units in Vancouver are two fans & a open window!
Surprisingly A/C units are affordable.

Unless one is elderly or has health issues, most people don't have A/C for home.

Has it hit the 70 F mark yet, Ron? ;)

Ron
06-10-2009, 11:45 AM
Has it hit the 70 F mark yet, Ron? ;)

Last week it was in the high eighties for the week!
Today it is in the low seventies with a nice breeze!:thumbsup

Timmy
06-10-2009, 11:48 AM
Last week it was in the high eighties for the week!
Today it is in the low seventies with a nice breeze!:thumbsup

Nice! (Supposed to hit a hundred the next couple days, here. Maybe I won't go outside and look at my A/C units after all! :lol)

Ron
06-10-2009, 01:19 PM
Nice! (Supposed to hit a hundred the next couple days, here. Maybe I won't go outside and look at my A/C units after all! :lol)

Hottest I ever saw it was 116 at Oregon Camp Grounds in 1988!:tumbleweed
It wasn't A/C in the sanctuary either!:jaw

freeatlast
06-10-2009, 01:50 PM
I just replaced my over 30 yr old central air. We went with Bryant which is owned by Carrier I believe.

15 seer with 10 yr waranty was .....6200 bucks OUCH

We have hot water basboard heat so our Ac has to use an air exchanger instead of going the the furnace. Our air exchanger had to be taken apart and reassembled in the attic becaise our low roof line would not allow the unit to be taken into the attic whole. Also our unit sets on the flat roof of our garage...so extra bucks for extra labor:

I've only ran it once so far but have found it to be extremely quiet.

Esther
06-10-2009, 06:46 PM
We have "feel" like temps in the 100's with actual temps in the 90's for over 8 hours! :sad

Esther
06-10-2009, 06:46 PM
I just replaced my over 30 yr old central air. We went with Bryant which is owned by Carrier I believe.

15 seer with 10 yr waranty was .....6200 bucks OUCH

We have hot water basboard heat so our Ac has to use an air exchanger instead of going the the furnace. Our air exchanger had to be taken apart and reassembled in the attic becaise our low roof line would not allow the unit to be taken into the attic whole. Also our unit sets on the flat roof of our garage...so extra bucks for extra labor:

I've only ran it once so far but have found it to be extremely quiet.

My heating unit is separate and will not need to be replaced. Thankful for that!

Esther
07-15-2009, 04:27 PM
I have to buy a new air conditioning system and they are not cheap. Not only that but the reviews on all the systems I have looked at are not good.

Seems the older units have better reviews than the new ones.

Anyone work in this business have any input?

My neighbor works for Carrier and he recommends them.

A man at my church works for Lennox and he recommends them.

A salesman said stay away from Amana-Goodman-Janitrol, Coleman-York.

Another salesman said now is the time to buy Amana because their record is so bad they now offer a lifetime warranty on the compressor.

Anybody have any suggestions?

Flip a coin??

freeatlast
07-15-2009, 04:41 PM
I like my new Bryant 15 ceer. I could turn it down and hang beef in here.

freeatlast
07-15-2009, 04:42 PM
My heating unit is separate and will not need to be replaced. Thankful for that!

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MikeinAR
07-15-2009, 04:51 PM
Esther my advice would be to pay the extra for the extra 5 years of warranty. I know it's $500.00 but the way things are made now days, I would rather have the protection than have to foot the bill for another unit.

I know all of the appliances that we install now are being made cheaper and cheaper and warranties are getting shorter and shorter. Just for your protection, I think it'd be worth it.

pelathais
07-15-2009, 05:24 PM
Window units. :)

Works for me.
Cargo shorts and fresh lemonade for me.

Oh, and 7,000 foot elevation.

OneAccord
07-17-2009, 06:40 PM
Frigidare and Gibson. Thats mainly what I install. Very good units, with exceptional warranties. Tranes and Carriers are good units, but, remember, you're paying around $1500 more for the name. I installed my 12 Seer 3.5 T split system 3 years ago (Frigidare). Absolutely no problems. Excellent systems and excellent installation. Of, I installed it myself.

coadie
07-17-2009, 07:08 PM
I have to buy a new air conditioning system and they are not cheap. Not only that but the reviews on all the systems I have looked at are not good.

Seems the older units have better reviews than the new ones.

Anyone work in this business have any input?

My neighbor works for Carrier and he recommends them.

A man at my church works for Lennox and he recommends them.

A salesman said stay away from Amana-Goodman-Janitrol, Coleman-York.

Another salesman said now is the time to buy Amana because their record is so bad they now offer a lifetime warranty on the compressor.

Anybody have any suggestions?

Flip a coin??
My child just bought a Ruud I believe and they are in a company with more that 1 name like Rheem. She bought her house 1 month ago. She told me that the 10 people that bid steered her to some tax credits from the government. She is watching her money since she is just graduating. There are around 4 names of compressors. Tecumseh, Bristol, copeland and i believe Lennox makes their own. My daughter is an Architectural engineer and will in her job specify several million dollars of equipment a week. I also would put carrier and Lennox above the others you mention. When I build a new office, I usually do not get very involved in brand except for Mechanical contractors.
If Amana is bad, the lifetime warranty may exclude people coming out and labor material to replace it. I thought Whirlpool bought amana.
The man in church and the neighbor are far superior reviews than online. Many online reviews are planted by companies.

Hoovie
07-17-2009, 08:05 PM
Frigidare and Gibson. Thats mainly what I install. Very good units, with exceptional warranties. Tranes and Carriers are good units, but, remember, you're paying around $1500 more for the name. I installed my 12 Seer 3.5 T split system 3 years ago (Frigidare). Absolutely no problems. Excellent systems and excellent installation. Of, I installed it myself.

OA, does the 2009-10 $1500.00 tax credit (up to) apply to high efficiency AC units? This may be something Ester should factor in.

Esther
07-18-2009, 07:02 AM
Esther my advice would be to pay the extra for the extra 5 years of warranty. I know it's $500.00 but the way things are made now days, I would rather have the protection than have to foot the bill for another unit.

I know all of the appliances that we install now are being made cheaper and cheaper and warranties are getting shorter and shorter. Just for your protection, I think it'd be worth it.

I agree with you.

Esther
07-18-2009, 07:07 AM
Frigidare and Gibson. Thats mainly what I install. Very good units, with exceptional warranties. Tranes and Carriers are good units, but, remember, you're paying around $1500 more for the name. I installed my 12 Seer 3.5 T split system 3 years ago (Frigidare). Absolutely no problems. Excellent systems and excellent installation. Of, I installed it myself.

I didn't see many reveiws on Frigidare. I know my in-laws had a Frigidare stove that was over 50 years old still working when she passed away. But that seems to be the normal for older appliance.

IF the government was really serious about going green seems they would require these companies to go back to making quality products like they made 40-50 years ago before all the new technology that can't hold up. Just think of the hardware that wouldn't need to be dumped back into the landfills.

Esther
07-18-2009, 07:11 AM
My child just bought a Ruud I believe and they are in a company with more that 1 name like Rheem. She bought her house 1 month ago. She told me that the 10 people that bid steered her to some tax credits from the government. She is watching her money since she is just graduating. There are around 4 names of compressors. Tecumseh, Bristol, copeland and i believe Lennox makes their own. My daughter is an Architectural engineer and will in her job specify several million dollars of equipment a week. I also would put carrier and Lennox above the others you mention. When I build a new office, I usually do not get very involved in brand except for Mechanical contractors.
If Amana is bad, the lifetime warranty may exclude people coming out and labor material to replace it. I thought Whirlpool bought amana.
The man in church and the neighbor are far superior reviews than online. Many online reviews are planted by companies.

My brother bought a Rudd a year or so ago. So far it is holding up. It is considered to be on the low end for price and dependability.

We are looking at replacing the furnance also now, seems that is a requirement to get a higher seer. For just a 300.00 difference we are looking at the Maytag really strong. They have a stainless steel cabinet that my husband likes, and a better consumer rating that I can find.

Like someone said you wonder if some of these reviews are plants??? Some really bad ones.